I’ve seen a lot of comments regarding Holly as a character, and others in the game too, and I had a thought regarding the notion of characters not having big backgrounds. No More Heroes is really interesting in the sense that all the things that could be considered lacking or bad can turn around and make the game better, and the lack of character backgrounds weirdly enough is one of them. Travis is so dead set on his goal of being number 1 that he fails (or doesn’t care) to consider all of the people that he’s actually killing in his way. Holly is kind of the perfect example of that, you can glean some aspects about her life and personality from how she talks, dresses, etc. but you’ll never really know. She shows Travis a great deal of honor and respect at the end of their battle, and right as a little glimpse of her true self comes through, a human life is shown, and Travis begins to plead, she blows her own head off. The game is almost pointing the finger back at the player, sort of blaming them wanting to get to number 1 so badly we don’t consider who or what is taken along the way.
This is exactly what you call a character with missed potential. Honestly i feel bad for her and i wish we got to see more of her within the game, and how she lost one of her legs. The fight with her itself is intense and can be hard if you don't pay attention. I wish she was a returning character in Desperate struggle because i really would've loved to see more from her. This girl was the original shovel night.
totally agree with you. holly was such a badass it's a shame she was never given the time for her character to develop and for us to see more of her backstory and personality. however, i feel like her death is a HUGE turning point in NMH regarding the fact that up until this point travis has been completely unaware of what death is. it isn't until holly kills herself that he realises how the ranked assassins, no matter how shitty and power-hungry they are, are still humans that had the same goal as he did. i find that her death impacts the players view of death in two ways: one being that death is the only thing in life that's guaranteed and that death is much more than the simple concept of perishing off the face of the earth, it can be emotional and tragic for some but it all depends on that persons outlook on life and whether ur like holly and have a slightly nihilistic view and believe that death is something natural, or ur travis, who at the start pays no attention to the concept of death but then when it directly effects him like it did to holly, takes a step back and comes to the assumption that death can be a tragic thing. haha sorry i'm rambling now but yeah, i still miss holly (and jeane, too).
What would that be good for, the whole point of NMH is to mock games with overly dramatic plots and characters, i am sure as hell Holly was made just to make fun of Metal Gear Solid.
Holly Summers only exists to humanize what Travis is doing as something awful. If she got development the point would be ruined. Travis managed to care for her bc she was kind and honorable even tho they didn't know each other. If she got any development at all her character would be made useless
She's so cool heh. It's too bad they don't go into much detail of these characters. I'd love to know how she got her prosthetic leg. Nevertheless, the game had quite a lot of awesome, enjoyable characters. :)
@@beauberry6179 it would be cool if they could possibly do a remake of the game and add in some cutscenes to explain what they currently do with some boss entries kh style with how they explain there character and past.
It's wild Because, we know whoever drew her wrote a whole story in their head. They get done with the face or whatever, start making the top half, suddenly she's an army vet, before she might not havw been, gets to the lower half, you're not just like "I gave her legs cuz it's cool', by the time you're done drawing those legs you know how she got them
The reason her song is called “Samurai Summer” is that this fight was meant to be the 2nd one vs Shinobu. I guess they cut it because she likely was gonna die and the developers wanted to keep her for the next game. Good decision cuz she is cool. SONIC SWORD
I’m sorry but No More Heroes 1 “The Original” is the very best of the series, it really hit it’s mark and made you feel like a bad ass swordsman with only death and being the greatest at providing it to others. That is until, some of the battles with the assassins start to hit home with your psyche and make you think if taking such honorable precious lives is even worth it, the more assassins you meet and fight to the death, the more you realize that they aren’t so different than you and some are just so far gone with killing everything, that you start to question your own morals at some points. It’s a chessey bad ass action game, that’s also a love letter to old samurai, ninja, Kung Fu movies of the past and it has one big message within it about glorified violence and just how far someone will go and how much someone will lose, just to be the very best assassin.
Not really a hard fight, but still one that gets you pumped up after a while. Her traps are unexpected the first couple of times, but after that, it's just chasing her down (which she can seriously hall some ass) and trying to hit her enough for she runs off again. Her insanely dangerous weapons have led me to believe Travis is indestructible as a literal super power.
Yeah, originally Shinobu would have gotten a rematch against travis and this would have been her theme for the fight but they scrapped that idea somehow
@@espio329 Huh, interesting. Maybe that's why there's two different themes in Holly's fight. One was meant for Shinobu while another was really meant for Holly.
THIS BOSS. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Holly is UNDOUBTEDLY the hardest boss in NMH1 (Shinobu and Bad Girl weren't that much cop). Those damn missiles were so annoying to avoid... She was also the only boss to beat me more than once. Glad that it was Holly I had trouble with though, she's a brilliant character.
It's funny that you say that, because I read somewhere that this was originally going to be Shinobu's 2nd battle theme. Originally they wanted to have you fight Shinobu twice and you'd here this song (which is why the songname, Samurai Summer, matches Shinobu's theme Season of the Samurai). I think that other song that you hear at the very beginning of the Holly fight was going to be Holly's main theme, but imo it worked out that this got to be it instead.
Well, the composer of Grasshopper Manufacture is quite known for his atmospheric tracks. I mean, he did the soundtrack for Killer 7. Do you expect anything else? :P Though it's ironic he did an arrangement of a Yoshi's Story song for SSBB.
Okay so amazing music and fight and character and game but I was looking for a good quality version of this song to add to a playlist for a thing and I found this on a playlist with other classics such as "Bedtime and naptime", "Soft sleeping musci", "What a wonderful world" and "Smooth sexy jazz". Why.
@THEVASART I believe that being the themes of boss fights, they have to be upbeat and catchy since you're lookin' to get action, not focus on lyrics. I also think they have to portray the boss' personality as well, which NMH does an excellent job of. Holly, being so calm by nature, has a more ambient theme while still retaining a catchy beat to it. I think it fits her perfectly while still acting like a 'boss theme'.
its my belief all these songs are more atmospheric rather than catchy. they drag the player into the game and make him feel as if hes there. of course thats just my opinion everyones ears are diffrent.
Watch your step. There are sand traps around the beach, and they're invisible until Travis steps on one. Fall into one with Holly around, and she'll drop a grenade in, which will deal a megaton of damage to Travis if it blows up while he's still in the sand trap. Be careful, though. Holly can cover them up again, though this leaves her open, and they can be seen this time.
Just fought her and check this out. I ended up using the sand traps as cover to dodge her missile barrage attack, it's very much a safe move and imo worth it, just still gotta climb out of the trap before she realizes and dumps a 'nade inside
this song sounds like a combination of Tekken 4, Virtua fighter 4 and Metal gear solid 2 vr missions. really miss atmospheric yet intense songs like this in gaming
@HitsugiNerd ya but when he flipped the stage it wasn't so easy one two holly was way too easy for me. the trick is keeping your eye on her body and keeping mental notes on where the traps are as well as where the missiles will hit. This is a simple task for me.
Well, me, the people who bothered mentioning it to the public, the people who think the song was made for Holly might not care, but at least they can be surprised a bit. You obviously cared enough to type out "honestly who cares" since if you didn't care you'd likely not even respond. You know, people. Not to mention, useless trivia can be fun once in a while.
check out Grace & Glory from the Jet Set Radio soundtrack. I also recommend Get Scraped from Deadmau5. That's all I can think about, maybe some Daft Punk, but anyway I hope you enjoy those
It sucks that we might never get to see Holly return again. Both Holly and Destroyman are my favorites and I’m happy that Destroyman’s returning for No More Heroes 3, but still I’m pretty sad that we’re probably never gonna get to see Holly again. R.I.P Holly.
@crashandcortex rank 4 for me It ticked me off that he wouldn't just die and then when he would flip controls on me (something I can normally handle) I'm just the same as a harmless moving target.
@darkdemonwerewolf Haha, Harvey was kind of easy for me. Sure he did little gimmicks, but a lot of his stuff was easy to dodge. The birds were painfully easy to dodge.
![No More Heroes 2: Desperate Struggle OST: Philistine [Jpn Ver.]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/UFXqJ--L_Kk/mqdefault.jpg)
Just like a samurai, she digs holes and throws grenades into them.
This was cuz originally, this fight was suppose to be a rematch against Shinobu but that was cut
@@aceclover758 Interesting, I didn't know that. I'm keeping my joke though.
And don't forget launching rockets from her samurai belt
Hey man, as long as it works
@@hcookie4424 when the judge asks why is killed ppl by making them drink gas and shoving a lit match stick up their ass ima just say this
I’ve seen a lot of comments regarding Holly as a character, and others in the game too, and I had a thought regarding the notion of characters not having big backgrounds.
No More Heroes is really interesting in the sense that all the things that could be considered lacking or bad can turn around and make the game better, and the lack of character backgrounds weirdly enough is one of them.
Travis is so dead set on his goal of being number 1 that he fails (or doesn’t care) to consider all of the people that he’s actually killing in his way. Holly is kind of the perfect example of that, you can glean some aspects about her life and personality from how she talks, dresses, etc. but you’ll never really know. She shows Travis a great deal of honor and respect at the end of their battle, and right as a little glimpse of her true self comes through, a human life is shown, and Travis begins to plead, she blows her own head off.
The game is almost pointing the finger back at the player, sort of blaming them wanting to get to number 1 so badly we don’t consider who or what is taken along the way.
"Forgive me, Holly... I was late in saying this, but I love your soul. Rest in peace..."
she strike a pose and rockets fly out damn thats a bad bitch
+Zen Seizure
or just a robot :3
robo bitch
holly can make missiles appear from the ass dimension
I mean her prosthetic leg is literally a rocket launcher
@@fradepalma1861 nope.. ass dimension
@@camilianSLC Sos bobo
This is exactly what you call a character with missed potential. Honestly i feel bad for her and i wish we got to see more of her within the game, and how she lost one of her legs. The fight with her itself is intense and can be hard if you don't pay attention. I wish she was a returning character in Desperate struggle because i really would've loved to see more from her. This girl was the original shovel night.
totally agree with you. holly was such a badass it's a shame she was never given the time for her character to develop and for us to see more of her backstory and personality. however, i feel like her death is a HUGE turning point in NMH regarding the fact that up until this point travis has been completely unaware of what death is. it isn't until holly kills herself that he realises how the ranked assassins, no matter how shitty and power-hungry they are, are still humans that had the same goal as he did. i find that her death impacts the players view of death in two ways: one being that death is the only thing in life that's guaranteed and that death is much more than the simple concept of perishing off the face of the earth, it can be emotional and tragic for some but it all depends on that persons outlook on life and whether ur like holly and have a slightly nihilistic view and believe that death is something natural, or ur travis, who at the start pays no attention to the concept of death but then when it directly effects him like it did to holly, takes a step back and comes to the assumption that death can be a tragic thing.
haha sorry i'm rambling now but yeah, i still miss holly (and jeane, too).
What would that be good for, the whole point of NMH is to mock games with overly dramatic plots and characters, i am sure as hell Holly was made just to make fun of Metal Gear Solid.
Holly Summers only exists to humanize what Travis is doing as something awful. If she got development the point would be ruined. Travis managed to care for her bc she was kind and honorable even tho they didn't know each other. If she got any development at all her character would be made useless
At least Bad Girl got some background in Travis Strikes Again, as well as COMING BACK TO LIFE.
@@tb3411 yas.
that is a beautiful picture, its not even because of the sexiness. I really think its a great work of art and goes with the song perfectly.
yeah I agree it gives me a boner
her interpretation of intimidation perhaps?
@@insanitized750 she can assert dominance with that pose as along as I'm in between her legs.
She's the only assassin that could be loved...rest in peice number 6...
She's so cool heh. It's too bad they don't go into much detail of these characters. I'd love to know how she got her prosthetic leg. Nevertheless, the game had quite a lot of awesome, enjoyable characters. :)
I always thought that one of her explosives or traps got the better of her.
Mr.Brink
That could be possible
She could have been in the military or an arms dealer. Either way, I want more lore about all of the assassins. Their personalities were unique.
@@beauberry6179 it would be cool if they could possibly do a remake of the game and add in some cutscenes to explain what they currently do with some boss entries kh style with how they explain there character and past.
It's wild Because, we know whoever drew her wrote a whole story in their head.
They get done with the face or whatever, start making the top half, suddenly she's an army vet, before she might not havw been, gets to the lower half, you're not just like "I gave her legs cuz it's cool', by the time you're done drawing those legs you know how she got them
The reason her song is called “Samurai Summer” is that this fight was meant to be the 2nd one vs Shinobu.
I guess they cut it because she likely was gonna die and the developers wanted to keep her for the next game.
Good decision cuz she is cool.
SONIC SWORD
I’m sorry but No More Heroes 1 “The Original” is the very best of the series, it really hit it’s mark and made you feel like a bad ass swordsman with only death and being the greatest at providing it to others.
That is until, some of the battles with the assassins start to hit home with your psyche and make you think if taking such honorable precious lives is even worth it, the more assassins you meet and fight to the death, the more you realize that they aren’t so different than you and some are just so far gone with killing everything, that you start to question your own morals at some points.
It’s a chessey bad ass action game, that’s also a love letter to old samurai, ninja, Kung Fu movies of the past and it has one big message within it about glorified violence and just how far someone will go and how much someone will lose, just to be the very best assassin.
This is the reason why Masafumi Takada is an amazing composer.
Dude, forget all the rest of that crap, I was just sad because she died... "Forgive me number 6...I never meant to shame you..." :'(
Do you hope fore a no more heroes 3
I hope for that
AND NOW THAT DREAM IS TRUE THANK YOU NINTENDO SWITCH
PURI'S RETURN Can't wait! Thank you #BasedSuda!
PURI'S RETURN what do you mean by that?
RIP Holly Summers, I really enjoyed your soft voice
I wanted a samurai summer, but all I got was a warrior winter...
Then Spartan Spring... And Army Autumn... Ok ill stop lol
Not really a hard fight, but still one that gets you pumped up after a while. Her traps are unexpected the first couple of times, but after that, it's just chasing her down (which she can seriously hall some ass) and trying to hit her enough for she runs off again. Her insanely dangerous weapons have led me to believe Travis is indestructible as a literal super power.
Weird to me that this theme was meant to be Shinobu's round 2 theme. Still it fights Holly somehow.
Yeah, originally Shinobu would have gotten a rematch against travis and this would have been her theme for the fight but they scrapped that idea somehow
@@espio329 Maybe in the second fight you would kill Shinobu, but they chose not kill her and turn her character into a sidekick for Travis.
@@espio329 Huh, interesting. Maybe that's why there's two different themes in Holly's fight. One was meant for Shinobu while another was really meant for Holly.
There was something about her that reminded me of metal gear. Not only was it because she was a militia, but also the way she died felt so heavy
She's voiced by Mei Ling's VA, even.
The Sniper Wolf of this game!
"Academics like to fantasize too, you know."
Wait! Number 6! NO!!
THIS BOSS. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Holly is UNDOUBTEDLY the hardest boss in NMH1 (Shinobu and Bad Girl weren't that much cop). Those damn missiles were so annoying to avoid... She was also the only boss to beat me more than once. Glad that it was Holly I had trouble with though, she's a brilliant character.
How did it turn out she was the hardest boss for you? For me it was shinobu
It's funny that you say that, because I read somewhere that this was originally going to be Shinobu's 2nd battle theme. Originally they wanted to have you fight Shinobu twice and you'd here this song (which is why the songname, Samurai Summer, matches Shinobu's theme Season of the Samurai).
I think that other song that you hear at the very beginning of the Holly fight was going to be Holly's main theme, but imo it worked out that this got to be it instead.
Well, the composer of Grasshopper Manufacture is quite known for his atmospheric tracks. I mean, he did the soundtrack for Killer 7. Do you expect anything else? :P Though it's ironic he did an arrangement of a Yoshi's Story song for SSBB.
realizing offense is more effective than defense theme song
Honestly
Okay so amazing music and fight and character and game but I was looking for a good quality version of this song to add to a playlist for a thing and I found this on a playlist with other classics such as "Bedtime and naptime", "Soft sleeping musci", "What a wonderful world" and "Smooth sexy jazz".
Why.
Weird.
Man, I love Holly.
I was hella mad when she ate that grenade.
@THEVASART I believe that being the themes of boss fights, they have to be upbeat and catchy since you're lookin' to get action, not focus on lyrics. I also think they have to portray the boss' personality as well, which NMH does an excellent job of. Holly, being so calm by nature, has a more ambient theme while still retaining a catchy beat to it. I think it fits her perfectly while still acting like a 'boss theme'.
Who tf booted up Tekken 4 during my Ranking match?
its my belief all these songs are more atmospheric rather than catchy. they drag the player into the game and make him feel as if hes there. of course thats just my opinion everyones ears are diffrent.
is it just me or does the beggining kinda sound like zone of the enders when your in the factory?
Well Travis overall has crazy durability anyway.
The lyrics "it's to show" came from hitomis dead or alive 3 theme
Getting Armored Core vibes from this ...
+RX05GAIGAN reminds me of Ghost in the shell
+Lenna R (Fish samurai) Close, but no dice. It needs a bit more light voices.
RX05GAIGAN yoooo
This is trippy.
Favourite bosses in the first game: Shinobu, Holly Summers and Bad Girl
They are so awsome :D
i like the song but the fight brings back bad memories more specifically SPAM SPAM SPAM
Except Margaret Moonlight's theme, that's well... Catchy as Hell.
my favorite song in the game
Throwing logic out the window is ESSENTIAL when playing No More Heroes.
now that you mention it. it does fit shinobu fairly well.
That's some solid Jojo posing
Looks like we found the 4th pillar men or pillar women
Surprisingly, I never noticed Holly has a prosthetic leg!
Watch your step. There are sand traps around the beach, and they're invisible until Travis steps on one. Fall into one with Holly around, and she'll drop a grenade in, which will deal a megaton of damage to Travis if it blows up while he's still in the sand trap. Be careful, though. Holly can cover them up again, though this leaves her open, and they can be seen this time.
Just fought her and check this out. I ended up using the sand traps as cover to dodge her missile barrage attack, it's very much a safe move and imo worth it, just still gotta climb out of the trap before she realizes and dumps a 'nade inside
this song sounds like a combination of Tekken 4, Virtua fighter 4 and Metal gear solid 2 vr missions. really miss atmospheric yet intense songs like this in gaming
...and which genre is this?
+Ricardo Yellows Ha! You're genres are meaningless here!
Suda Genre
@HitsugiNerd ya but when he flipped the stage it wasn't so easy one two holly was way too easy for me. the trick is keeping your eye on her body and keeping mental notes on where the traps are as well as where the missiles will hit. This is a simple task for me.
This kinda gives me the Street Fighter EX vibes
Well, me, the people who bothered mentioning it to the public, the people who think the song was made for Holly might not care, but at least they can be surprised a bit. You obviously cared enough to type out "honestly who cares" since if you didn't care you'd likely not even respond. You know, people. Not to mention, useless trivia can be fun once in a while.
Arguably the only tactical fighter in NMH (the 1st game at least, I still have yet to see all of the 2nd's).
What kind of music is this, there are some really odd instruments.
Can someone recomend me more electronic like this?, i hope No More Heroes 3 has a similiar track in style.
check out Grace & Glory from the Jet Set Radio soundtrack. I also recommend Get Scraped from Deadmau5. That's all I can think about, maybe some Daft Punk, but anyway I hope you enjoy those
check out Killer7's soundtrack by the same composer Masafumi Takada
Why couldn't there be an 8-bit version of this in TSB?
*Blows up*
I'm swedish! XD
I miss her
Shut up all of you....She was a great assassin...Travis layed her to rest, Now lets just enjoy her music.
She should of been ranked top 3 with how damn annoying her fight is those missles were so hard to avoid
This track deserves a better boss fight lmao
REAPER REAPER THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE CALL MEEEE
Wrong song bud
Shinobu isn't much of a challenge, Jeane is, She dodges alot, she's harder though.
the gfemale bosses are the most difficult
So cool and exotic
I think the Japanese version is also really good.
It sucks that we might never get to see Holly return again. Both Holly and Destroyman are my favorites and I’m happy that Destroyman’s returning for No More Heroes 3, but still I’m pretty sad that we’re probably never gonna get to see Holly again. R.I.P Holly.
Soo unique
I thought she said "Still just a but". Just like when in the cut scene she said "You are still but a mere 'but' ".
To be honest, I think she gave a me a amputee fetish.
I'm fucked in the head and I need to go outside more.
You see, this one was originally gonna be Shinobu's 2nd theme, not holly's.
Actually, from what I've read, this was actually supposed to be Shinobu's 2nd theme, originally you were supposed to fight her twice.
Makes sense with the name of this theme
@crashandcortex rank 4 for me It ticked me off that he wouldn't just die and then when he would flip controls on me (something I can normally handle) I'm just the same as a harmless moving target.
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it.
My wife
It IS called Samurai Summer.
Now I'm sad
Wow
Oh shit, she was swedish!?
Alright, me too! :D Anyone know where she lives?
...Oh right...
:c
hey a blazblue fan!
0:06 For some this part is reminding me of this: th-cam.com/video/jNrTn-mYvuw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=D7Lj599VBKIvqgUb
I disagree. It's all about what your tastes are. I love both version, but slightly prefer the European version.
Freaky robo leg
it's just a prosthetic...
that shoots missiles...
@darkdemonwerewolf Haha, Harvey was kind of easy for me. Sure he did little gimmicks, but a lot of his stuff was easy to dodge. The birds were painfully easy to dodge.
Not a great beach day, aint it?
I just came.
@angel78556 T-thank you so much, I can't unsee.
You have a point there. lol
Stupid Missiles.
I'm almost at this chick. I have 3/4 of the money.
Is that what you see? I see differently.....perhaps ive been watching a bit too much hentai o.o'
and then there's Philistine...
@GFTOW Look at the picture.
Good theme, not fun fight
Holly totally rips off Bayonetta when using the avavago pose
To be fair, this game came out 2 years before Bayonetta :P
Beat her on 1st try
The European version on Philistine is garbage! The North American version is a lot better.
She'd fit well in MGS