How to Lubricate TYCO PowerTorque Diesel Locomotives

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  • @atjoe1972
    @atjoe1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The infamous Tyco Power Torque “Death Squall”. Nice demonstration of where to oil the motor to prevent that problem. It should be stated to anyone who has never done this. A little oil goes a long way. Otherwise your Power Torque will become a flamethrower rolling down the track from too much oil. Thanks for sharing the information on this common problem. 👍🚂

  • @4everdc302
    @4everdc302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the video. I have a non runner one of these, in the land of misfit locomotives box. I'll be working on it in the near future. May paint NY Central.

    • @atjoe1972
      @atjoe1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That would look really sharp painted in New York Central. 👍 Cigar Band or Lightning Stripe?

    • @4everdc302
      @4everdc302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@atjoe1972 cigar, I believe I can get the decal sheet at Ottervalley RR.its 15mins from me.

    • @atjoe1972
      @atjoe1972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@4everdc302 That’s great! Please share your progress with it. That’s on my favorite locomotive list. 🚂

  • @CoplandsGermany
    @CoplandsGermany 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks. This was super helpful. I got my motor running, but it was screaming. This tip on putting oil on the OTHER side did the trick. Mine is older, does not say "oil here" or the like.

  • @haroldalexis4200
    @haroldalexis4200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thank you for this I've seen so many repairs of these power torques with that annoying squeaking. Out of all my TYCO ENGINES 2 only survived the GP 20 which on very little occasions had that maintained them fairly well. Very helpful tips. 🙂

  • @lackawannarailfan
    @lackawannarailfan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice maintenance! Good job!

  • @ccrm10
    @ccrm10 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just got a Tyco engine and it has this squeaking so now I know what to do to fix it! Thanks!

  • @brendonpower5082
    @brendonpower5082 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video helped a lot much appreciated

  • @michelleoverby5738
    @michelleoverby5738 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, does the steam whistle need to be lubricated as well? Thanks

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  หลายเดือนก่อน

      The whistle on Tyco PowerTorque steam locomotives operates with Smoke Fluid/Oil.....not lubricating oil, so don't put regular model train oil in there. It needs special Smoke Oil in order to make smoke.

  • @davydigger708
    @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just got a Rock Island sharknose, and I completely rebuilt it, but it runs slow and does not have much power at the moment. Did I do something wrong, or does it just need time to break in?

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      Chances are, the motor might be going bad. I never actually rebuilt a Tyco PowerTorque motor, just cleaned and repaired minor issues like wiring, pinion gears etc

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads Never mind - I got it to run perfectly!

  • @davydigger708
    @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, I wanted to ask a question - I had two Power Torque locomotives that do not run because the gear teeth have worn down - I ran them frequently and used only oil on the gears - so the lubrication was not the best. I got a Midnight Special locomotive just like the one in your video, and I decided to try using PTFE (Teflon) lubricant on the gears - but after only a few weeks of frequent use, the gear teeth began to wear a little bit and it started running roughly. Am I doing something wrong, or do these Tyco Power Torque gears always wear out that quickly? I want to know before I try fixing any of my existing locomotives, or buy any more.

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      By gear teeth, do you mean the little metal pinion gear or the plastic gears? I'm not too familiar with PowerTorque plastic gears wearing out that fast (running noisy yeah, but most classic HO locomotives are noisy anyway.) The most common issue with Tyco PowerTorques is the pinion gear popping off the shaft, and the plastic gears' "posts" breaking when removing the gears for deep cleaning, causing gear wobble or worse. I'd recommend regular old model train synthetic oil for any and all model trains - I've never used a Teflon lubricant that I know of. A good grease safe for BOTH metal and plastic gears is Labelle 106.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads The pinion gear is metal? I thought it was plastic. Yes, it is the pinion gear teeth that are wearing down! I am trying to figure out how to stop this.

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      @davydigger708 I'm surprised...usually pinion gears don't wear down, as it is a metal gear driving plastic gears. Usually, the biggest issue with those pinion gears is popping off of their shaft, and spinning freely.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads I've had that happen too! One thing I've noticed that it usually happens more on pre-1979 ones - the later ones seem less prone to the gear popping off.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      It feels more like plastic to me. Maybe I'm wrong?

  • @davydigger708
    @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

    So - I completely rebuilt the motors on my Silver Streak and Rock Island Sharknose locomotives, with some junk parts, and they do run, but I can't seem to get them to run as well as my Santa Fe GP20. Do you have any advice? They seem rougher and louder - and yes, I did lubricate them. Could the parts just be worn? Or do they need further cleaning and better lubrication? Or should I just run them as is?

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow - good for you. To be honest, I think that is just due to worn parts - like gears, etc. Also, worn motors can tend to be noisier too. But if the locomotives run smoothly, and everything is lubricated, the noise is normal.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads I'm REALLY hoping I didn't just over-lubricate my new Santa Fe GP20 - it was running fine, but I just cleaned it out and trued my new Labelle 106 in it - I tried not to put too much - but I hope I didn't accidentally - I used a toothpick.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads I'm getting scared to ever run my Power Torques again after my past mistakes - I REALLY don't want to ruin any more of them!

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davydigger708 Well, PowerTorques can be annoying to deal with, from pinion gear issues to worn out motors burning up. They are not my favorite motors, that's for sure, and one of the worst motors in classic HO model trains.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads Most of the problems I have had were human error ones - I don't want to make the same mistake again!

  • @davydigger708
    @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the right amount of grease to put on the gears? Are there places you shouldn't put grease? I've ruined Power Torques by packing them with grease and stressing them out.

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      First of all, NEVER pack gears with grease, plastic or metal. A little goes a long way. Same goes for oil, too. To sparingly apply grease (I'd recommend Labelle 106 grease) use a toothpick (or if you are using Labelle 106, the squeeze tube allows you to squeeze the grease sparingly) to put a little amount on the gear teeth - once you run the motor, the gears will spin and spread the grease around.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads How often do you need to put new grease on? How do you tell when to?

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      @davydigger708 You pretty much know when to add new grease or oil, when your locomotive's gears become too noisy. The noise means the gears are dry and need to be lubricated. It then depends on how often and how long you're running your model trains.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads I found out what is going on as far as the teeth wearing down - I was having a problem with my Rock Island sharknose, and it appears on all my broken Power Torques that I did not properly lubricate the part where the large gear meets the smaller gear that turns the wheels - this caused the drive to lock up, and ultimately, damaged the pinion gear. This time, I caught it before the pinion gear was ruined, but unfortunately, I may have to replace the large gear now.

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      @davydigger708 Yes, it is important to keep all gears lubricated. But at least you found the source of the problem.
      If I didn't say before, I recommend Labelle 108 synthetic train oil. I've had the same bottle for years and I've lubricated many locomotives. It's great oil.

  • @davydigger708
    @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I buy a used, untested Power Torque locomotive, what are the chances that the gears are intact?

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      Good chances the gears will be fine, the pinion gear will probably be loose though. The only other major gear issue that could be present is gear wobble with the big plastic gear.

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads Ok. Remember the problem I had with the gear teeth wearing down? I actually bought a junked Chattanooga for parts and the pinion gear teeth were also worn down on that one too - and that made me scared to buy untested Power Torques! So you really think it will be fine? Have you ever bought well-used ones before?

    • @davydigger708
      @davydigger708 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RPModelRailroads I missed out on the Chef Boyardee set, so now I am trying to decide if I should get a partial Rail Master 72 set for $35 - seems like a good deal, but it's untested and I was scared the gears could be broken on the locomotive after my past experience.

    • @RPModelRailroads
      @RPModelRailroads  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davydigger708 In my experience, I've not seen all that many worn down gears on Tyco PowerTorques. I've mostly seen loose pinion gears and gear wobble in either the big or small plastic gears on the PowerTorque truck, or burnt out motors. Worn down gears are obviously signs of a used/poorly maintained locomotive. Buying a used HO locomotive tested is always the best way to go, unless the price is so cheap that untested is worth it. That is a good price for the Rail Master 72 set, but considering that GP20 in that set is a PowerTorque, it could have a number of issues, the worst being the motor being completely toast and gray smoke pouring out of the cab windows when you turn the power on (I've had that happen on a few.)

  • @badwolf2331
    @badwolf2331 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was fucking CRASHING OUT until I saw this vid because I needed to re-oil used tyco locos