Should Karachi be separated from Sindh? - Nadeem Farooq Paracha - TPE Clips
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Nadeem Farooq Paracha, also known as NFP, is a Pakistani journalist, author, cultural critic, satirist and historian. He is a columnist for Pakistan's largest English-language daily Dawn.
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I am muhajir and I am for a Karachi that is the capital of Sindh.
The guy is stating pure facts, amazed by his knowledge of History 💯💯💯💯💯💯
" Nadeem Farooq Paracha" 👍👍👍ہمیشہ کی طرح بہترین .....
Where is full episode. I was waiting for this one, sir
@The Pakistan Experience: Marboot rehney pr shukriyah.
Waiting for the full podcast!
Give us an argument, not just an opinion without premises.
We love sindh with heart and soul
Where is the complete podcast?
Shehzad I 100% percent agree with you on the 'karachi and interior sindh' wali baat but don't you think it is totally unfair to talk about this issue and then not adress the quota system because of which so many karachiites can't apply for a government job?
Everything said here was more or less accurate but quota system should also have been discussed which was a root cause for the ethnic tensions in karachi ever since zulfi ali bhutto era
Its obvious what this channel is specifically aimed at. 1st this person calls Murtaza Wahab and gives him so much space without asking any difficult questions and accepting all bulshit that Murtaza kept throwing. 14 straight years in government and eveything has got worsened, this cannot be defended at all. Instead of griling Murtaza Wahab, he kept on asking polay polay questions. And then he invited some idiot girl who just recently joined PPP and let his channel become a propaganda tool for good for nothing PPP. And finally this, as PPP is being severely criticized for not doing anything for flood victims and even their ministers are allegedly involved in routing the flood to poor villages. This man who is invited here is talking about developments in interior Sindh. This specifically explains the validity of the arguments made. Yes people want Karachi to be separated but not because people have any grudge against any community, its just because people want to get rid of incompetent good for nothing impotent PPP. PPP is easily the 2nd biggest curse to Pakistan after ofcourse the army. And yes Mr. Shahzad nver talks about quota system and PPP ruining the local bodies. Its clear that this Mr. Shahzad is biased in favor of PPP.
حقیقت یہ ہے کہ کوٹہ لیاقت علی خان کی ایجاد تھی اور وہ بھی غیر منصفانہ! لوکل ابادی سے پہلے لیاقت علی خان نے حق چھینا پھر ون یونٹ نے ۔ جب ذوالفقار علی بھٹو نے اصل حق داروں کو انکا حق دینا شروع کیا تو تاریخ کا سارا ملبہ اس ایک آدمی پر ڈال دیا گیا ۔ ویسے بھی اس کوٹے کا تعلق زبان سے نہیں دیہی اور شہری علاقوں سے تھا اردو بولنے والا دیہی علاقے کا اور سندھی بولنے والا شہری علاقے کا ڈومیسائل استعمال کرتے ہیں اسمیں کیا مسلئہ ہے ؟
@@Ainasyeda07 اگر 75 سال یہ سوال ہو رہا ہے کہ کوٹے میں کیا مسلہ ہے تو یہی مسلہ ہے۔ لوگوں کی ذہنی استعداد 75:سال میں نہ بڑھائ گئ۔ کیا میں نے کہیں زبان کی بات کی؟ مسلہ یہی تو ہے کہ جہالت پیپلز پارٹی کا فخر ہے جیسے شہری علاقوں کی جہالت ایم کیو ایم کا فخر ہے۔ ظاہر ہے تعلیم اور شعور کا مطلب ان دونوں پارٹیوں کی سیاسی موت ہے۔ اگر کوٹہ سسٹم اتنا اچھا ہے تو صرف سندھ میں کیوں ہے؟ اگر کوٹہ سسٹم میں لعل جڑے ہیں تو سندھ کا باشندہ اس حال میں کیوں ہے؟
@@moddypk is maslay par baray baray intellectuals ko munh rkhtay Dekha ha
So just ignore it
Just like Pakistan keeps on ignoring karachi
Appreciated ❤
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Firing on all cylinders, great clip. Can't wait for the whole podcast.
when it will be uploaded?
When's the episode coming out?
@@ThePakistanExperience SUPER EXCITED FOR THIS ONE.
Most Karachiites hate MQM, so PPP had a golden chance to make it their voter base when they got undisputed power in 2008 after the 18th amendment. They had the resources to turn this city around. Nobody would ask for a province if the govt delivers. But since 2008, PPP has only looted and polluted this city and turned it into a wasteland. Instead of discussing ethnicities, discuss how Karachi has been destroyed in the last three decades (especially the last 14 years) and what can be done to improve it. To hell with the ethnic distribution. Bring me a Sindhi, Pashtun, Muhajir or any other ethnicity CM who is willing to devolve power to local govts and let this city rise again. It's a garbage pile right now.
Zyada chillaa kar na bolo bhai... Jaahil Sindhiyo ke kaan me awaaz chali gayi is podcast ke guest ki Tarah ke.. 😉
ma Karachi ka rihayishi hu idhar itny pure Karachi liver educated nanga bagair nokri ke ghoom rahy hoty ha or in Sindhio ko jinhy English ka e nhi ata har government job mil jati at the end yahi kahunga Karachi sab Pakistanio ka ha sirf jo educated or well adequate hon !
@@theknowledgeseeker1how come a knowledge seeker is using the word jahil for sindhis collectively, you really beleive that all sindhis are that.
Absolutely agreed with you Sir💯
Great speech 👍
I think Pakistan should be a collection of 20 small states each autonomous. Each state should collect its own taxes (and give a share to the central federation). Each state should have its own police departments fire departments, school systems, etc. Then the states should trade among themselves. This would promote efficiency and meritocracy. Prices for real estate would encapsulate true intrinsic values. Every state will have something that they specialize in according to their geographical location and natural resources. This is just my idea what do others think? Four provinces, as a system, has not really served Pakistan well.
2 sindhi nationalist( PPP supporters ) sat for a podcast
@@ThePakistanExperience he is a sindhi as he himself told in one of your podcast and he is also been in PSF.. Or bhai kindly aese jaahil guests ko bulaate hain to unki baato ko ya khud Cross check Kiya Karo.. Ya unse kaha Karo hawaaal na maren... Aap ko sunne waali awaam Roti ko Toti ni kehti..
Bloody liar PPP jiyala Nadeem parachi,shame on this hater of mohajir
Littelly yr itni buri tareekay sey hate phela rha hey muhajiro k khilaf.
Karachi sindh ka hissa hay or rhyga beshak but Karachi ki aawam ko govt jobs di jayen, karachi ki police me local karachi cty sy bhartiyan ki jayen. Karachi sy jo paisa generate hota hay wo karachi me lagaya jaye. I was born in a small city of Sindh and raise in Karachi so I know the story how Zardarism indirectly hit Karachi, especially urdu speaking.
Ha this is right
Development in other parts of sindh. Okay that was a good one :D
Smaller Administration Units is the resolution. Ethnicity based provinces q hain is country mein.
How about a province, South Sindh? Or North Sindh? Just get rid of PPP somehow, please 🙏
He's a jiyala
Sindh is mother of sindhis people from 5000 years when there was no porkistan, if they tried to divide sindh then ready for bangladesh 2.0
@@the.tribal_chiefwhole world is a motherland of everyone
@@jinping-hz4wt i agree, and i know everyone love this world, but not more then his personal home 🏡 where he live, where he grow ❤️
Interior Sindh ki growth say even US is impressed. They are transforming their cities like Chicago and Seattle into larkana and naudero. Time for another vodka Nadeem 👍
*hahaha*
yes you're right why don't you shift from DHA to intrior karachi such as Lalookhet alookhet orangi chowrangi bllaaa blaa and nangan korangi paposh nagar and whatnots where absolute genuineness live.
@@fahadhameed7513 to bewaqoof insaan waha bhi to ppp ka hi raaj ha.. Kya ye areas sindh govt ke under nahi aate?
It doesn't matter k ab ka population ratio Kya hai. Provinces is the only solution. No CM is capable to manage larger provinces. KPK, Sindh, Punjab, Balochistan. The smaller units can make it possible. Provinces based on population are possible, who is saying that ethnic base pe banao.
Teray bap kii milkeeat hay na
Karachi should be seperated from Sindh.
Tumhara baap india say laya tha na
I agreed with you sir..
You are saying right because Urdu media shows only Karachi in sindh not other aeras,the revolution had been came in all over Sindh you must see the percentage in MDCAT,a district of Sindh thar parker their last seat of medical goes above the 95%,so my thinking is that all areas in sindh are not rural at right now.so if you want to separate Karachi then in between four nation Sindhi,Punjabi,pakhton and in muhajir their will be persecution because of resources how to complete the need of water in Karachi if sindhi blocks water,there are many needs and we are all dependents to each othe.So I request every citizen of Karachi and Sindh you must together and think about the revolution of pakistan.and you must raise your voice on Urdu media that they must use Karachi with Sindh not Karachi and Sindh.Thanks🙏
Good sir
NFP is the OG
The name North West Frontier Province has it's own Romance ✌❤
There are only 2 ethno centric & ethnically tagged provinces in Pak namely KPK and Balochistan.
Both of these should be divided and given geographical names.
If PUNJAB can be divided for Saraikistan then why can HAZARA from KPK, BRAHVI from Balochistan, and MUHAJIR from Sindh not be formed?
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Uncle looks like Hassan Nisar without the glass 🍷🥂.
Uncle is just full of shit
Smaller administration units honay chahiay ab us ko subay ka nam do ya kuch bhe, aur koi facts base bat karo na k apna baytuka opinion aur agar har cheez history k basis pay chilti to jis zameen pay ap ka piraya Pakistan hai is pay aik time hindu hotay thay. Ethnicity based units hona to wesy hi aik problem ka bais hai.
Right
malir is diverse and mix
Haraamkhor Muhazir ko India vagau. Lanat Muhazir
LOL. NFP bhai, konsa Sindh growth dikha rha hai??? Jisper waderon ne pani ka rukh mordya hai or Indus Highway per jo bichare ahtijaj kar rhe hain??? Stop living in denial.
Ye khud People student federation me raha ha or sindhi ha.. Qoum parast ha Jaahil.. Is wajah se Apna Chooran bechne ki koshish karta ha..
Yeh growth sirf yeh admi hi dekh sakta hai sahi kehte hai insan bodha hone ke bat bacho wali khaslat le leta hai 😅😂
O bhai phr qauta system bhi hatha du na jb karachi me muhajir kam hai tu
Agar Karachi ko Sindh se alag karna tha to azadi se pehle kyun nahi bataya gaya ke sindh shamuliat hi akhtiar na karta Pakistan ke sath
دبئی میں باہر کے لوگ زیادہ ہیں تو کیا وہ دبئی کے مالک تو نہیں ہوگے
کراچی کے لوگ آخر کیوں علیحدہ صوبہ کی بات کرتے ہیں ۔
سندھ کے وسائل پر صرف سندھی دوستوں کی اجاراداری ہے ۔
مہاجر قوم کو بھی سندھ کے وسائل میں حصہ دیا جائے
Pheli bat to subey qoum k name pr honey hi nhi chiye.
It's totally wrong I know identity ka masla ata hey but is k wjah sey barey masley hotey.
Ab Sindh k bhi ye hi misal hey Jo Sindh Mey rehta hey woh janta hey sindhiyo Mey certain people bhout racist hotey hey.
Woh Sindh ko apney bap k jageer smjhtey hey however woh khud Arabic decent sey hey.
Urdu speaking islye asi bat krtey hey q k maney ya na maney Karachi ko industrial city on ho ney hi bun waya karachi on k sher tha.
But the Benazir or Zulfiqar Bhutto jesay logo ney asi policies bunai jis k wjah sey alag sobey k awazey uthi.
Agr asi kharab policies nhi bunti to Karachi k alag sobey k bhi bat nhi hoti.
Or ye Sindh ka historical hissa hey ya nhi is pr bhi ek taweel debate k ja sakhti hey.
Sindh has absorbed many other ethnicities like baloch, pathans, parsi etc. Sindhis are the most accepting of other cultures but anything imposed on natives never sits right.
Jahan tak karachi bananey ki baat hai, karachi was the national capital and before that developed by parsi community, urdu speaking ney bnaya ka manjan kaheen aur becho.
@@f.50
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Yes it was partially developed city but is ko national hub Muhajirs ney hi bunaya jha tk sindhiyo k bat hey on hey ney Sirf loot mar k ilawah or nokriya khaney k ilawah Kuch nhi kra.
Kuch months phelay ye nasal parast Sindhi pathano k dukaney bund kr wa rhae they jesay Sindh in k bap ka hey adhi sey zyadah Sindh keconomy k back bone pathano ney hi samhali wi hey phir bhi in k sath wohi salouq krna chatey they Jo Muhajirs k Sath Kya.
Or Bhai bat Sindhi Muhajir Pathan k nhi hey bat Haq k hey.
Jitna racism ap ko Sindhiyo ney mileyga utna khi nhi.
@@moizpathan6829 aik bat dimag me ghusa ly sindhi sindhion ka tha hy aur rahega tareekh padh ly sindh ki dharti py srf sindhio ny huqoomat ki hy aur jis qom ny sindh py hamle ki sochi uska anjam bht hura hua hy sindhi gairatmand qom hy aik to lalo panjo ki waja se ye mat samjhna sindh me mard khatam hogae hn
@@waqasahmedthaheem560
Bhai ye nationality ka churan khi or bhej Kon geyrat mand hey sub pata hey.
Adhi sey zyadah abadi bhek mangti hey aurtey dosro k ghro Mey Kam krti hey.
Bhutto jesay leader Jo dosri qoumiyat ka Haq khaey hey.
Or Sindh tera kha sey a gaya teray bap dada khud arab sey ae they.
Sindh Hindus ka tha Jo migrate kr k India chleay gae woh to asal Sindhi ab on k gulam is jageer ka dawa kr rhae hey.
Or tu bhi ek bat kan Mey ghusaley Zameen Kisi k bap k nhi hoti koi dawah nhi kr sakhta ye Zameen Meri hey. Sindhiyo Mey itna talent hota to androney Sindh ko Hyderabad or Karachi Jesa bunatey.
Abhi bhi sindhiyo k madat Sirf Karachi or Hyderabad sey ho rhi hey apney bandey to bus dosro ka Haq mar rhae hey
@@moizpathan6829 konsey nashey Karke aye ho? Karachi was developed city before the arrival of UP/CP people. Infact it was the arrival of these immigrants which made Parsis and Hindus leave Pakistan.
Muhajirs are only majority in central district which has 3rd lowest per Capita GDP in Sindh after Tharparkar and Kashmore. Ports are located in in Sindhi majority areas but don't let these facts get in the way of your agenda.
Konsi aadhi economy pathano ne sambhali hui ha? Ulta unki waja se Pakistan par sanctions ha.
More provinces are better Karachi must be separated from sind
See proportion of Sind government jobs first
One thing Jinnah is Quaid e Azam for us
Growth in sind biggest joke 🤣
Bhai kitna tarsao gey NFP k liye, it better be long though!
@@ThePakistanExperience with people like NFP, Go Joe Rogan on them, make it at least 2:30 - 3:00 hours long
The speaker is so dumb. Making Karachi a separate province will give the mendate to people of Karachi. The problem is that whoever Karachi votes PPP wins in Sindh. And PPP is least focused on Karachi they have destroyed Karachi. Hence making Karachi a separate province would allow Karachi to develop. Yeah he is right Larkana and Sukkur have developed into world class cities
let people decide what they want, don't need to convince you, tired Sindh stealing Karachi money.
Karachi is Sindh
@@ThePakistanExperience in your dreams
No solution, only praising the worst performing province. Podcast has just opinions no argument based real life solutions.
After 18th amendment, it is a constitutional violation that PPP is not devolving power to local governments. Get down from your high horses NFP and Shehzad. It's natural people talk about separate province for Karachi. What do you expect from ignorant frustrated folks of Karachi who don't get water inside their houses, who don't have anyone to pick garbage from their houses?
Call some representative of the greatest democratic party in the world and ask for a solution. Oh I forgot they would never come to your podcast or provide a solution for Karachi crisis.
@@ThePakistanExperience
Thanks for the link. I will definitely listen to it and will leave my feedback in comments.
Keep up the good work.
Alag nahi karna to saary poor Sindhi idhar se nikal kar unka alag economic Hub bnao saaly sindhi loot maar karty ha fasaaad phelatay ha or polices bhi pure Karachi liver hony chaye yahato saary police Sindhi ha, ma Karachi ka rihayishi hu idhar itny pure Karachi liver educated nanga bagair nokri ke ghoom rahy hoty ha or in Sindhio ko jinhy English ka e nhi ata har government job mil jati at the end yahi kahunga Karachi sab Pakistanio ka ha sirf jo educated or well adequate hon !
Jiye muhajir ❤
Mr. Nadeem Farooq Paracha is lying. Don't know the dynamics of Karachi where Muhajirs, Beharis & Pashtoons are more populated than Sindhis right now. He talked about District Malir but in reality Pashtoon population resides in millions specially in Gadap Town & Shah Latif Town. Its a fact at the time of partition Muhajirs population was not in majority but now the majority people of Karachi according to census 2017 published in Dawn News July 31,2022,
42% of the population of Karachi is Urdu Speaking/Muhajirs
then 15% are Pastoons, then Punjabi, then Sindhis are the 4th no. nation in Karachi.
NFP k jan nisar, be shumar be shumar!
جن لوگوں کا کیا ہے کراچی ہماری وجہ سے ٹیکس دیتا ہے یہ انکی خوش فہمی ہے۔۔کراچی انکی وجہ سے اپنی جیوگرافیہ کی وجہ سے ٹیکس دیتا ہے اور آج سے نہیں انگریزوں کے دور سے دیتا ہےجاکے تاریخ پرھو۔۔۔۔تو جناب! یہ ہی نسل 4کروڑ یو پی میں ،2کروڑ بہار میں، 40 لکھ ڈھاکہ میں آباد ہیں ۔۔ وہ شہر کراچی کی طرح زیادہ ٹیکس کیوں نہیں دیتے ۔۔۔؟؟؟حیدرآباد کے لطیف میں یہی مہاجر 7لکھ آباد ہیں لیکن لطیف سے زیادہ خوشحال اور پوش ایریا قسم آباد ہے جو سندھی اکثریتی متی علاقہ ہے۔
کراچی سب کا کوئی کراچی کا نہیں ۔۔ ستر سال سے یہاں رہنے والے بھی اپنے شناختی کارڈ پر کراچی کو صرف عارضی طور پر لکھواتے ہیں ۔ اور خود کو اپنے گاؤں سے منسوب کرتے ہیں
Ku ke quota system ki wajah govt jobs interior sindh ki zyada ayengi... Karachi se domicile banwa Liya to govt job kahan milegi..
F Pracha Saahab. just Nailed ky
Kindly recommend this to Muzamil. A Punjabi and a person who has no connection to this soul will ask such a thing. Pakistan is a federation, in which Sindh is a province with its autonomy. Dividing provinces is like dividing a country. Then for no purpose why Sindh passed a resolution to join Pakistan. Sindh has bad rulers not just they are Sindhi only mqm ruled Karachi freely, jamat with full power. All of them are the reason for this mess. Now again jamat is coming with venomous campaigns to create fear of us vs them. You are in danger. These are very easy tools to manipulate people.
Qabza kiya ha ap logo na karachi ko
KARACHI Hyderabad or Punjab may bhi or soobay Bana dia janay chaiya
Bilkul..Punjab ke bhi 3 hissee or sindh ke bhi
Garam kar ke chor dya🥲
@@ThePakistanExperience yayyy
muhajir😂😂😂
Ghlat bol rha hia ye jamali
A sindhi illiterate giving his own views about Karachi as a province.. Han sahi ha bhaeee😂😂😂
No the man is half muhajir, half punjabi, he s not sindhi.
@@Mussafir_dunia he is a sindh born punjabi.. Not a muhajir...
@@theknowledgeseeker1 Ah ok because in the introduction of his video on muhajir identity he said this..
@@Mussafir_dunia he is just born in Karachi.. From ethnicity he is a punjabi...
Jahil log to tum ho kutay
looks like a PPP supporter..!
Urdu speaking built this city or else karachi would still be backward like interior sindh. Karachi is owed to urdu speaking
Yay city Urdu speaking kay pahlay say developing hay kuch parho jahil maloom kuch nahein jahill log
@@farhanalighanghro786 hahaha ek mashoor jagah batado jo pehlay ki banai huwi ha. Sindhi itnay achay thay tow sindh kyun mahi banaya?
@@farhanalighanghro786 sirf karachi isliye develop hua kyun k urdu speaking ha warna tum log waderay system tabah kardena tha
Bhai history parho Karachi angrozo nay develop kiya tha aur paisa hindhu Sindhis ka laga hay aapnay to haq khaya hay unka
@@farhanalighanghro786 Jahil sindhi angrezon ne develop kiya tha limited level pe. Karachi ko megacity banaya 50’s 60’s 70’s me phir sindhi agaye Karachi or tabah kardiya
جب تک کنٹونمنٹ موجود ہے کوئی شہر ترقی نہیں کر سکتا