@@walawala-fo7ds Where are you getting your information? The GX 550 hasn't had any recalls. And all the issues with the 3.4L TT have been due to manufacturing errors, not design or engineering defects. The turbo issue was a defect from one of the suppliers Toyota used. If there was a fault in the Bilstein shocks, would you blame Bilstein or Toyota? And for the metal shavings recall, it's a manufacturing oversight. Time will tell if it will continue to affect the newest Tundras/LXs, but only the earlier ones were affected and Toyota is making it right with full engine replacements. Toyota is redesigning their entire manufacturing process to deliver vehicles for the next 15-20 years. They're bound to miss a thing or two. And they seem to be doing right by their customers when problems are identified (though, it's far from ideal that customers have to find these troubles before action can be taken)
@@walawala-fo7ds I have no problem with them. TURBO diesels are a very popular engine choice world wide. Many are known to be the most reliable and desired engines in the world, especially by Toyota. There's absolutely no reason why that technology can't be made reliable in gas engines. But many Americans don't see this because we don't really have small displacement turbo diesel vehicles here.
@@jonathanteeter9572 inflation is at least 30% of that, your dollars are worth less. I also had a 2019 ORP, bought a 24 limited for $50200 in April, feeling pretty good about it now...........haha
No way paying 57k for a trd off road. They can sit on the lots like the Tacoma is here in Kansas until they offer huge incentives. Why pay 60k for a vehicle you are going to take off-road and get all dinged up? Some people will because they have to have the latest and greatest- but there is more to life than being car poor.
That first rendition of that 4th gen Tacoma is absolutely SICK! Is your shop going to build that! By the way, thanks for scheduling me for work on the 17th at your shop. My Tacoma will be in capable hands!
I’ll admit I was interested in waiting for one of these when all the ‘hype’ began but I’m glad I purchased a 24 4Runner TRD PRO this past June instead. I thought I was crazy in June to pay $55,000 for a 5th gen Pro but to have waited and purchased a 4 banger Pro in 2025 for almost $70,000 would have been complete insanity! What is Toyota thinking? I’m sure this vehicle will suffer from issues just as the 3rd gen Tundra and the 4th gen Tacoma.
Great video…I wish you had commented on part time vs full time 4wd. Only the Limited & Platinum offer full time & this is definitely the better system for on road winter driving, especially when the road is constantly changing from dry to wet to snow & ice…probably not the best for off road which is the focus of your video so I understand not mentioning it…just thought I would put it out there
IMO, the limited and platinum is the best trim level. The locking torsen center diff is the one thing that all the other trim levels is missing for seemingly no reason. Full time 4wd with atrac is going to perform well in almost all scenarios while also reducing wear, stress and potential breakage on your drivetrain. This applies on and off road, but nobody seems to understand this. Sure it comes on 20" wheels, but if people are going to swap wheels anyway, it doesn't matter...
@mtnyotas I have the best of all worlds in my 2008 4th gen 4runner V6. It has 2hi as well as the lockable torsen center diff. I can even drive in 4lo with the center diff unlocked (functionally an AWD Low range). But Toyota doesn't offer this anymore. My guess being that very few people actually understood how great it was. Front/rear lockers always has good aftermarket support. The torsen center diff basically has no support at all besides factory.
@@jensalan in driving scenario it makes sense for the limited and platnium. But if you using for harder terrians and getting stuck I think the others have it better. Me as a regular guy who don’t go into the mountains or woods, the limited and plat is for me but then prices need to chill
@@zajdabneeg That's just my point. When the Torsen center diff is locked, it's functionally identical to the part time 4wd system in all the other trims. If you could put the Torsen center diff in a TRD Pro and lock it, it will drive identically to a regular TRD Pro in H4L in all conditions. That's just how differentials work. Typically in the "luxury" trims, Toyota tends to leave out the more advanced ATRAC system which is basically just software/firmware with a physical knob. So Toyota is artificially removing off road goodies because they're off road goodies and not luxury goodies. And there's basically no scenario where 2hi is more favorable than full time 4wd. AWD donuts in snow are significantly easier, faster, and more fun than when in 2wd. The only benefit that 2hi has is you can do a burnout which is basically pointless.
So basically a TRD Pro with the delivery fee which is around 1300+ -, plus some additional added options from the regional distributor or added features from the factory (there are not so many barebone 4Runners) will easily reach $70,000. 70k, dude, for a TRD Pro! OMG
These new 4runner v4 turbo craps coming with high price tags. Dealer will need to make room for it, I bet it will be sitting in the lot collecting dust like 24 Tacoma and Tundra 40 plus on lot.
@@mtnyotasjust like no one is buying the Tacoma. Sits on dealer lots now with 6k off. People rather have a nice house or have money for things than pay 50k for a vehicle that is going to get dinged up going off-road. Your video is a delusional sales pitch. I drove a Tacoma for the heck of it and it’s not all that.
@ if you honestly believe that you need to look in the real reported numbers. Toyota is counting the vehicles they sell to dealerships and not consumers
To be fair 18 inch wheels have their place if you want more power and capabilities than a forerunner it’s called the land cruiser a real land cruiser a 200 and you’ll need 18s to clear the brakes. Sure you can run 17 but the brakes will pack up with more ice, mud and debris plus if you run the big brake kit 18 or the minimum.
Amazing how many of you are such whiners and complainers! To be honest, I do not find these prices that bad! What is WRONG with you people? About 8 months ago, I told my girlfriend "I plan to get a 4Runner TRD Pro, and I'm guessing that it will be around $70k". I was right! It makes sense based on the specs and inflation. Guys, if you didn't figure out a way to hedge yourself against inflation, such as convert your money into Bitcoin or something, then that's your problem! Stop blaming Toyota and the Dealerships! They have to make a profit! It costs a lot of money to make these cars!
There will be no third row with a hybrid engine. But yes, all vehicles nowadays are expensive. I got my 3rd gen 4Runner SR5 Sport in 2002 for 29 grand. Different times.
Alright guys seeing this ridiculous price. Iamma put my money in 5th generation. Like how the hell sr5 at 40k and then the next up jump a whole 7k? Lol trd pro 66k when 5th gen is like 55k. No no buy Toyota. I guess I will have to go for the new Honda passport instead
I bring in 6 figures and I don’t even want to get one of these. Like the price to value ratio just don’t make sense when quality on top has been suffering. I like to stay under 1000$/ month if I finance and in the 50k if I buyout. Toyota went crazy with price hike.
I wouldn't buy a new car now unless you absolutely need it. Too many issues with new cars, too expensive and the quality is way down, even with Toyotas.
As a further heads up for Colorado folk. Groove Toyota in Denver (south broadway area) also sells at MSRP per the contacts i've engaged with since putting my deposit down back in May. I rcvd this same pricing slick from them this morning and was advised that MSRP + delivery fee (and any additional options) will be the TSRP or total price.
And to think this is actually a good deal because once the new tariffs are rolled out, the consumer prices are going to skyrocket at least 20 percent on all japanese made cars. This is the last quality Japanese tahara factory made 4Runner and land cruiser we'll get in the US at this price. If Toyota shifts production to the US, they will become garbage 🗑️
@ I will not call it a great comment since it doesn’t add much to the conversation aside from me finding funny the current pricing for the 6g. Those prices are a true reflection of what Toyota has been made to think his current market will be paying and the current market prices. Some people are easy to control with the fear of missing out, or predatory tactics at the dealers. It’s good that you’re recommending some dealer that they don’t do that. At the end of the day, people that can afford them will buy them and people that can’t afford them will be influenced to buy them too. Cheers
That's stupid recommending to go with hybrid. Most people are looking for reliability. The gas engine one is sure to be more reliable than that hybrid shit down the road.
It’s not all ‘EPA’,the build quality of all new Toyota’s as well as all new manufacturing is based in good ‘old fashioned’ CORPORATE GREED! If they can make a pile of 💩 and people are willing pay the company can make a pile of 💰 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰. Every less weld made, wire strung or thickness of plastic reduced equates to higher profit!
Guys you aren’t REQUIRED to buy one, settle down. Do whatever you want with your money, it’s your money.
A bunch of damn crybabies
Platinum 62,500….might as well buy GX550 and you get v6 engine
@@tedkite4684 the one with the recalls, yes 🤣
@@tedkite4684 mind as well get the land cruiser
@@walawala-fo7ds Where are you getting your information? The GX 550 hasn't had any recalls. And all the issues with the 3.4L TT have been due to manufacturing errors, not design or engineering defects. The turbo issue was a defect from one of the suppliers Toyota used. If there was a fault in the Bilstein shocks, would you blame Bilstein or Toyota? And for the metal shavings recall, it's a manufacturing oversight. Time will tell if it will continue to affect the newest Tundras/LXs, but only the earlier ones were affected and Toyota is making it right with full engine replacements.
Toyota is redesigning their entire manufacturing process to deliver vehicles for the next 15-20 years. They're bound to miss a thing or two. And they seem to be doing right by their customers when problems are identified (though, it's far from ideal that customers have to find these troubles before action can be taken)
@jensalan Do you like turbos? have fun
@@walawala-fo7ds I have no problem with them. TURBO diesels are a very popular engine choice world wide. Many are known to be the most reliable and desired engines in the world, especially by Toyota. There's absolutely no reason why that technology can't be made reliable in gas engines. But many Americans don't see this because we don't really have small displacement turbo diesel vehicles here.
Daaaayom I paid 41 for my 21 off road premium that is a hell of a hike in price!!
I paid 38 for my 19' ORP......I'm trying to figure out where my almost 17k worth of money is going to? really, newish styling and a touch screen?
wait for the 20 percent tariffs
@@jonathanteeter9572 inflation is at least 30% of that, your dollars are worth less. I also had a 2019 ORP, bought a 24 limited for $50200 in April, feeling pretty good about it now...........haha
Tariffs are used for negotiating . Don't expect it to really happen.
Goddamn what a big jump of pricing like if we were 20 years forward
No way paying 57k for a trd off road. They can sit on the lots like the Tacoma is here in Kansas until they offer huge incentives. Why pay 60k for a vehicle you are going to take off-road and get all dinged up? Some people will because they have to have the latest and greatest- but there is more to life than being car poor.
I want two of them.
That first rendition of that 4th gen Tacoma is absolutely SICK! Is your shop going to build that! By the way, thanks for scheduling me for work on the 17th at your shop. My Tacoma will be in capable hands!
Working on a few new-gen concepts for an Ultra4 build… it likely won’t be a Tacoma because of the wheel base, but it’ll look very similar to that.
I’ll admit I was interested in waiting for one of these when all the ‘hype’ began but I’m glad I purchased a 24 4Runner TRD PRO this past June instead. I thought I was crazy in June to pay $55,000 for a 5th gen Pro but to have waited and purchased a 4 banger Pro in 2025 for almost $70,000 would have been complete insanity! What is Toyota thinking? I’m sure this vehicle will suffer from issues just as the 3rd gen Tundra and the 4th gen Tacoma.
@@StripedTurkey you still were crazy for paying that much for a 15 year old car. It only looks good because Toyota is even more crazy 🤣
@ yeah okay I’m crazy when I’ve already received 2 unsolicited offers of $60,000 for this vehicle with 9,000 miles 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I am really happy with my 2024 4runner trd pro purchase. Not interested in the new drive train until it is proven reliable.
How long do you need to wait? Lexus has been using this drivetrain for years.
@@mtnyotas Nice gaslighting
New trd orp costs more than a 24 trd pro... kinda insane.
Great video…I wish you had commented on part time vs full time 4wd. Only the Limited & Platinum offer full time & this is definitely the better system for on road winter driving, especially when the road is constantly changing from dry to wet to snow & ice…probably not the best for off road which is the focus of your video so I understand not mentioning it…just thought I would put it out there
It’s not totally clear which trims will be AWD full time with a center/rear lock.
Ayyeee!! Thanks for the MST shout out 🫶
Dang. Given recent quality issues. It’s a no.
IMO, the limited and platinum is the best trim level. The locking torsen center diff is the one thing that all the other trim levels is missing for seemingly no reason.
Full time 4wd with atrac is going to perform well in almost all scenarios while also reducing wear, stress and potential breakage on your drivetrain.
This applies on and off road, but nobody seems to understand this.
Sure it comes on 20" wheels, but if people are going to swap wheels anyway, it doesn't matter...
Our LC250 has that and I’m honestly not sure if I prefer it or not.
@mtnyotas I have the best of all worlds in my 2008 4th gen 4runner V6. It has 2hi as well as the lockable torsen center diff. I can even drive in 4lo with the center diff unlocked (functionally an AWD Low range). But Toyota doesn't offer this anymore. My guess being that very few people actually understood how great it was.
Front/rear lockers always has good aftermarket support. The torsen center diff basically has no support at all besides factory.
@@jensalan in driving scenario it makes sense for the limited and platnium. But if you using for harder terrians and getting stuck I think the others have it better. Me as a regular guy who don’t go into the mountains or woods, the limited and plat is for me but then prices need to chill
@@zajdabneeg That's just my point. When the Torsen center diff is locked, it's functionally identical to the part time 4wd system in all the other trims.
If you could put the Torsen center diff in a TRD Pro and lock it, it will drive identically to a regular TRD Pro in H4L in all conditions. That's just how differentials work.
Typically in the "luxury" trims, Toyota tends to leave out the more advanced ATRAC system which is basically just software/firmware with a physical knob. So Toyota is artificially removing off road goodies because they're off road goodies and not luxury goodies.
And there's basically no scenario where 2hi is more favorable than full time 4wd. AWD donuts in snow are significantly easier, faster, and more fun than when in 2wd. The only benefit that 2hi has is you can do a burnout which is basically pointless.
Like Tundra, they can stock them in dealerships and after 1 or 2 years bring down the price and still no one wants to buy it
These will sell a lot better than the Tundra. The Tundra is just too big for regular use.
@@user-tb7rn1il3q Not to mention every time you press the start button your engine might go Kaboom…don’t ask me how I know 🤦♂️ 🤯
V6 lasts forever. Turbo 4? Good luck.
So basically a TRD Pro with the delivery fee which is around 1300+ -, plus some additional added options from the regional distributor or added features from the factory (there are not so many barebone 4Runners) will easily reach $70,000. 70k, dude, for a TRD Pro! OMG
About what I expected. With inflation and all, it's understandable.
Placed an order for the iforce max trd off-road premium in Everest from Corwin Toyota in CO Springs! Can’t wait to get mine by next summer lol
Why the lol?
Just tired of waiting is all
Hopefully they start going for 4 to 5 grand under MSRP, just like the tacos. Would like an offroad premium for family duties
Wish they’d make them affordable again
Thank you for showing the 2025 price chart.
“Toyota knows what they’re doing”. How about those Tundras with grenades under the hood?
Riiiight...
you can design the most perfect house until the builders you hired come and mess it all up when they're building it
How fast is it going to break down? Asking for the sucker who buys one.
These new 4runner v4 turbo craps coming with high price tags. Dealer will need to make room for it, I bet it will be sitting in the lot collecting dust like 24 Tacoma and Tundra 40 plus on lot.
What about the battery replacement cost though in the hybrids?
I'll keep my supercharged 02 Sport, absolutely nothing wrong with it.
There’s definitely something special about a 3rd Gen.
This guy is cool with a 4cyl in this vehicle??? Who’s paying this guy?
Drive one.
@@mtnyotasjust like no one is buying the Tacoma. Sits on dealer lots now with 6k off. People rather have a nice house or have money for things than pay 50k for a vehicle that is going to get dinged up going off-road. Your video is a delusional sales pitch. I drove a Tacoma for the heck of it and it’s not all that.
@@castandblast1852Tacomas are selling though… and I don’t sell Toyotas, I modify them.
@@castandblast1852 More Tacomas sold in November 2024 than any month in 2023 with the 3rd gen.
@ if you honestly believe that you need to look in the real reported numbers. Toyota is counting the vehicles they sell to dealerships and not consumers
To be fair 18 inch wheels have their place if you want more power and capabilities than a forerunner it’s called the land cruiser a real land cruiser a 200 and you’ll need 18s to clear the brakes. Sure you can run 17 but the brakes will pack up with more ice, mud and debris plus if you run the big brake kit 18 or the minimum.
Amazing how many of you are such whiners and complainers! To be honest, I do not find these prices that bad! What is WRONG with you people? About 8 months ago, I told my girlfriend "I plan to get a 4Runner TRD Pro, and I'm guessing that it will be around $70k". I was right! It makes sense based on the specs and inflation. Guys, if you didn't figure out a way to hedge yourself against inflation, such as convert your money into Bitcoin or something, then that's your problem! Stop blaming Toyota and the Dealerships! They have to make a profit! It costs a lot of money to make these cars!
the older 4 runners are far better than this new garbage.
Garbage eh?
It doesn't matter. Toyota isn't going to stop making new cars
How do you know? It hasn't even come out yet.🤡
I just like how they pulled all the 2024 4runners cuz I Conor find a new one since feb2024 not even 2023 on sale
Engine and transmission on 4th gen seems to hold up really really well.. taco
They went down in price, right? :)
Wow overpricing trucks is so shocking coming from toyota. Keep buying these folks cause the CEO doesn't have enough for his 4th yacht yet.
There will be no third row with a hybrid engine. But yes, all vehicles nowadays are expensive. I got my 3rd gen 4Runner SR5 Sport in 2002 for 29 grand. Different times.
Funny you say "why would anyone buy the sr5?" That is the only one I would buy. Everything else is overpriced nonsense.
Base model RWD just isn't something we're interested in as off-road fab guys...
Pricing isn’t that bad tbh. What is bad is their new engine.
isnt that bad? lol
Alright guys seeing this ridiculous price. Iamma put my money in 5th generation. Like how the hell sr5 at 40k and then the next up jump a whole 7k? Lol trd pro 66k when 5th gen is like 55k. No no buy Toyota. I guess I will have to go for the new Honda passport instead
70k on cy4 in 4runner.... ridiculous
They can keep it.
Wow big bank!!!
70k+ pass
Okie dokie
70k+ isn't that bad for what you're buying. The specs are WAY greater than before.
@@VibrantMarcos "$70k isnt that bad for what your buying" 🤣🤣
SR5 RWD for me. I don't need to rock crawl. But I wouldn't go as far as "toyota knows what they are doing".
Who knows what they’re doing more than Toyota?
Hybrid are great till you spend $,000 to replace the battery.
Zero dollars to replace the battery? Sounds pretty good!
4 cylinders are meant for Honda civics- not off roaders.
You have to bring in more than 100k a year to afford one of these smh.
I bring in 6 figures and I don’t even want to get one of these. Like the price to value ratio just don’t make sense when quality on top has been suffering. I like to stay under 1000$/ month if I finance and in the 50k if I buyout. Toyota went crazy with price hike.
If you're being smart, yes.
I make 112 a year and I’m not paying more than 500 for a car payment. Rather have a nice house and spend money on actually doing things.
I wouldn't buy a new car now unless you absolutely need it. Too many issues with new cars, too expensive and the quality is way down, even with Toyotas.
As a further heads up for Colorado folk. Groove Toyota in Denver (south broadway area) also sells at MSRP per the contacts i've engaged with since putting my deposit down back in May. I rcvd this same pricing slick from them this morning and was advised that MSRP + delivery fee (and any additional options) will be the TSRP or total price.
And to think this is actually a good deal because once the new tariffs are rolled out, the consumer prices are going to skyrocket at least 20 percent on all japanese made cars. This is the last quality Japanese tahara factory made 4Runner and land cruiser we'll get in the US at this price.
If Toyota shifts production to the US, they will become garbage 🗑️
Japanese tariffs? When?
@mtnyotas anytime after January 6.
Lmao
Great comment!
@ I will not call it a great comment since it doesn’t add much to the conversation aside from me finding funny the current pricing for the 6g. Those prices are a true reflection of what Toyota has been made to think his current market will be paying and the current market prices. Some people are easy to control with the fear of missing out, or predatory tactics at the dealers. It’s good that you’re recommending some dealer that they don’t do that. At the end of the day, people that can afford them will buy them and people that can’t afford them will be influenced to buy them too. Cheers
@@UrbanOpsOffRoadI was joking 😝 now it’s a great comment.
@@mtnyotas I gotchu brother 🤙🏻
Who ever buy this 4runner for that price must be stupid... Toyota is garbage now.. they will go out of business soon.
Bold statement, let's see how that plays out.
Its just an ugly over-stylized vehicle. I think the designers were on crack.
Honda Passport craps all over this
Gross
@@mtnyotas Spending 60k on a turbo 4 banger is even more gross
The car is so ugly!
Complete joke.
Great comment Kenny
That's stupid recommending to go with hybrid. Most people are looking for reliability. The gas engine one is sure to be more reliable than that hybrid shit down the road.
It's hybrid done the best possible way you can do a hybrid though.
@mtnyotas Only time will tell how truly good those hybrids are.
Toyota big fail with this junk at these prices. 4 banger turbo and hybrids too sad. The EPA has cut off Toyotas balls.
It’s not all ‘EPA’,the build quality of all new Toyota’s as well as all new manufacturing is based in good ‘old fashioned’ CORPORATE GREED! If they can make a pile of 💩 and people are willing pay the company can make a pile of 💰 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰. Every less weld made, wire strung or thickness of plastic reduced equates to higher profit!