First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright if Lebron becomes the #1 leading scorer of all time then yes. Nobody thought anybody would ever catch Kareem, especially not lebron. If you go back in time 10 years to 2009 before Lebron went to Miami. And told everyone Lebron will go down as the all time leading scorer, people would think ur crazy and lying.
He solidified himself as a better all-around basketball player than Jordan when he led his team to winning the 2016 championship coming back down 3-1 while he was playing with a pass first mentality (assisting on 50% of his teams shots) when the odds were stacked against his team. Everything that he's been doing since then will be the frosting, icing, sprinkles, and the lit candles added on top to make his case even stronger.
@G-man Saying LeBron is the best ever, that's a lie. Completely overrated and honestly, quite disappointing. LeBron James is the G.L.O.A.T. *Greatest Loser Of All Time*
@G-man that Lebron is a better passer...the only time Jordan was asked to be ball dominate like Lebron ie ball in hand and making decisions, he put up numbers Lebron never has in a season: "Jordan continued to play at the PG spot until the end of the season. In these 24 games he averaged 30.4 pts, 9.2 rebs, 10.7 asts & 2.4 stls. Between March 24 and April 14, 1989, he recorded a triple double in ten of the eleven games, including seven consecutive ones. In the game he didn’t record a TD, he finished with 40 points, 11 assists and 7 rebounds."
@@brucebruce5103 come on dude. Now thats a little too far....saying lebron is overrated is like saying kobe or tom brady is overrated. Like chris said, lebron has been hyped since high school and he exceeded it not only he exceeded it, he literally the best player in the world for pretty much almost a decade. You gotta give lebron credit for that and he got cleveland a championship in basketball. Hes not better than jordan but hes obviously top 10 and debatable as top 5.
@ Saeed Vilanueva....it's amazing how Broussard does make his arguments but NEVER mentions Kobe. From 2000-2010 Kobe went to 7 Finals and won 5 rings!! ....and he did it for the same team with 2 completely different core units
@kixgod.com ummmm, i'm sure jordan was fustrated with his team getting knocked out of the playoffs each year before the GM started putting players around MJ lol.
Facts. Since we giving values for rings to make other players look better. I don't care if the whole team is full of all stars, if you are the best player on that team, your ring is valuable. All rings that aren't valuable are the one's from players that barely contribute, like the white mamba.
Did CC say that that 2016 Cleveland team with Kyrie Irving who averaged 28ppg in that series was one of the worst teams ever? Have this guy drug tested please
I need to catch this show more often when Broussard is on. I find myself always either agreeing with him or at least enjoying his arguments; also he seems to have good chemistry with Cris and Nick.
Nick Wrong was born in 1984. If say he only started watching the NBA at age 12-13, he didn't grow up watching MJ like some of us did. I was an MJ fan by 1990.
Marketing to kids (I wanna be like Mike, space jam) to gain popularity the bleeds into folklore that then adds to revenue of a brand that is still going strong today..... great marketing so great infact you really never needed to see who might really was...didn't need to he fit the mold...he fit the system....he fit the position....that why when a system goes to another team they find another player that fits that mold (Kobe) and then he does what the other player did as well....it's not the player it's the system.....y'all should be thank Phil for both Jordan and kobe
You don't have to grow up watching MJ. There are these things called "tapes" and "recordings" of all Michael Jordan games. With that said, Nick Wright has been dead wrong ever since he started saying Lebron is better than MJ.
Influence and impact is definitely lebron by the way. And I would say talent and intangibles are probably lebron as well for his freakish height and athleticism
Congrats to Lebron. I still can’t believe Nick Wright thinks Lebron is better than MJ though. But he even said he didn’t grow up watching MJ he’s just like other Lebron fans that call him the GOAT
Sean Dolan no one ever had more media hype than Lebron, and yet you still think it was because of ‘ Media Hype ‘ that people think MJ was better ? And oh btw, I for one grew up watching MJ , Magic, Bird , Isaiah etc...
Mind of the North Star Not really. Only defensively. But offensively they’re even. Jordan only averages 3 more points than LeBron while LeBron shoots better from the field and from three and averages more assists, and he beats Jordan in all the advanced offensive stats.
you don't need to grow up watching MJ there's something called tapes seeing both play looking at both players stats I give a slight edge to Lebron 90s was not a good era despite what people say expansion teams and talent that was very spread apart made it seem like it was competitive but that was just the regular season only teams with 2+ stars were legit contenders Rockets, Bulls, Jazz. Defense is overstated yea it was a tougher era but players were slower and team defenses lacked the same nuance as they do today. (help defense was illegal). Furthermore, Jordan was the one who started the super star treatment and phantom calls after he complained that the pistons were too tough. That being said Jordan was an offensive beast and like Broussard said had no weaknesses in his game, and 6 championships 6 finals MVPs you can't argue against that. And the biggest edge he has on LeBron is that killer mode (kobe has the killer mode but he's far less efficient that either player). Why I think lerbon is better: I think the 2000s was the most competitive era of basketball period. There were multiple legit contenders every year and teams with multiple all stars on it every year. Lebron single handedly carried the team to a finals against a championship Detroit pistons team. The 2010s became much more top heavy but he almost single handedly beat the warriors in 2015 and led the greatest comeback in nba history in 2016. Also put up career highs in his 15th season in both rebounds and asst. Those are my reasons. If you wanna have a civilized debate I'm game but people need to stop hating on LeBron and stop hating on "millennials"
I love how Nick is panicking against CC and Broussard in his defence for Lebron. He probably stomped to his change room after they were done , crying and slamming the door behind him. Poor little Nicky.
Thank you Chris.B for shutting down that weak "well Bill Russell has 11 he's the goat" NO bums, he didnt dominate like Mike, played in a weaker less talented era and there were only 8 teams in the league NOT 30. Let no one deceived with Russell 11 Rings over Jordan 6 argument.
Bill Russell win in high school, college and the pros. Boston didn't win anything before him and didn't win until five years after he retired. Stats don't tell the whole story with Russell. Look at the film on his peers.... Or just keep scrolling basketball reference. Russell was an exceptional athlete, was on the track team, bring the ball up and leap from the free throw line (there's video on TH-cam).
No Nick Wright. That Dallas series will forever be the reason why Lebron will never be the greatest of all time. 8 points in Game 4. 11 points total in all games in the 4th quarter. He froze and exited the GOAT talks right there
Ray Flacco Jordan had a game in the playoffs where he played 46 minutes and only took 8 shots the entire game and finished with 12 points. Larry Bird had 8 points in a Finals game. Magic dribbled the clock out in the Finals game. Kobe shot his team out of a Finals game in 2004. It happens to everybody 🤷🏾♂️ Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it or ignore it is based off how much you like the player or how much you hate them
Wade County I’m specifically talking about MJ that playoff game did happen but Lebron James did it on the biggest stage. He choked. This was after he mocked Dirk for being sick and he got cocky thinking the series was over. Big mistake he proceeded to choke for the rest of the series.I understand you’re a little bit bias since Lebron helped you win those titles but you have to admit no superstar choked more on a championship stage than Lebron did that series. Not to mention how Lebron said he’d win not four not five not six not seven championships and he wasn’t joking he really thought he could win all those titles
@@likemikegenerationx2 LeBron was outplayed by Jason Terry in every statistical category but rebounds...in 10 less minutes per game. You mention 1 bad playoff game LeBron choked a whole series away.
True, no one in there 15th season has been the best player in the world... but at the same AGE(34), MJ was the best player in the league winning a scoring title and MVP, and Kobe making the playoffs, lebron at 34 gets knocked out the playoffs...
@Timothy Oliver if jordan didn't take those 2 years off he could've won another title plus added another 6,000 points to his career total. the 2 years jordan took off actually helps lebron.
Timothy Oliver He didn’t quit though and lol at saying MJ had “fresh legs” after being off almost two years. Did you even see MJ play after his comeback? He was nowhere near the MJ of before. He was still very good but not the MJ of old.
@@wavebuurgslim2063 Also add steals would have put him first over john Stockton. So he could have been first in scoring, steals, and blocks for a gaurd which d wade just passed. I agree those 2 missed seasons definitely helps Lebron. Mj goat
Let's throw out the ring argument, Nick. Take every MVP, Finals MVP, DPOY, ROY and MJ still trumps Kobe and LeBron COMBINED. Stop relying on the hypothetical for your arguments.
Garrett Crenshaw and still 3-6 and has less accolades even tho he’s played longer and having more assists and uncontested defensive rebounds doesn’t make u better
@@lawrencemcdonald9212 sure ignore logic and facts... And finals record is a team stat not an individual one.. Bill Russell won 11 rings but you Jordan fans never mention him when you bring up Jordan being 6-0 in the finals... And the accolades argument is irrelevant... LeBron has been the best player in the league the last 10 years yet they give it to someone new to help promote the individual players in the league... You can't honestly tell me Harden had a better year than LeBron did last year all stats considered...
@@bornind.c.in8881 MJ at age 34 Reg season MVP, All NBA First Team, All Defenstive First Team, All star game MVP, NBA Champion and finals MVP. LeBron at age 34 - space jam 2
lebron has a higher VORP, WIN SHARE, +/- scoring assists literally everything in the playoffs lmao and he didnt play against white guys in short shorts and mechanics
Yes the nba is about winning but for whos better against MJ and Lebron deep down you know it isnt fair at all Lebron 3-6 facing the warrios 3 times and Jordan 6-0 never was an underdog the championship argument isnt a fair one it just isn't that why Nick takes it out and he's right to even thougg jordan is the goat I'm just saying Jordan should have been 6-0 its not like Jordan was only suppose to win 3 tittles and and surpassed what was expected
That was a level of debate Chris Carter and ol girl was not ready for. Just look at their faces😏. Broussard ate Nick’s lunch and took his candylady money 😂
I'd like to nitpick a point. After the Bulls' title against the Lakers, MJ became more of a jump shooter. If you watched the '91 Finals, MJ was exhausted because of all the drives he was doing. Next season, he became more of a jump shooter and would become the best jump shooter in the league.
@Tod Wilkinson The league is different now they just give it to people based on storylines, like when Drose was gifted it instead of Lebron getting it.
Shannon has ranked LeBron third all time after Kareem and Jordan. Is not the same thing, is just that LeBron is his favorite player and he's also fooling around and having fun
@@Mj-uz1ng If you paid attention to Chris when he's a guest on Undisputed, you'd see he does a great job objectively defending Lebron against Skip's psycho Lebron hate. The way Skip professes his heartfelt love for Jordan and Brady, Shannon's not the one you should be accusing of having a "D" down his throat.
Indeed, no sane person who watched MJ play could ever say LeGM is better, even if you ignore all the stats, just use optics, eyes don't lie, these people are delusional
Shannon is on the LBJ payroll plus it makes for good TV to go back and forth with Skip..... Nick is in Love and dreams of LeBron hitting every free-throw all nut.
Jordan retired twice, missed a season due to injury, played a short NBA season cause of lockout issues & played college basketball, while LeBron came in straight after high school, never has missed any season due to injury or retirement, or went through a short season, and has played more seasons than Jordan did altogether 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Leland Joseph thought it was self explanatory, but in case you missed bfast, LeBron has had way more games to just now reach that milestone. Isn’t impressive, especially considering the difference in actual physical size, which has granted LeBron more of an advantage to easily score, in an era where hand checking isn’t allowed, but was before when Jordan played, in the era of the greatest defensive players.
DebtlessJet a compliment that he took longer to achieve the same thing Jordan did in less time, with more hurdles, tougher defense, and smaller physical frame? You must be a fan lol
Nick your point isn’t gonna hold any weight sir...MJ is the greatest basketball player...why do they celebrate passing Jordan...only JORDAN...not anyone else??? That is so crazy to me lol
I know right, they seem like they are absolutely in love with lebron. beyond all the useless babbling and silliness from them, they do in fact invest more of their personal time into the subject of lebron than professed lebron fans...lebron haters are a walking contradiction. i find them hilarious though
They are usually the first ones to watch and comment when his name is in the title. And then they complain and ask why ESPN keeps talking about him lol
It is clear to me that the jordan vs lebron conversation is a generational one. If...If...If...ANYONE....had seen or experienced the viewing of michael.jordans whole career, then there's NO WAY you would even considered lebron in that category. Mike was greater then the sport.....lebron isn't. That alone is enough note worthy. Last, mike had a deep lion inside of him....lebron had friendly mindset of aau which prevented..that. Lebron vs kobe is a wayyyy better debate.
Nick Wrong just cant get to his head that Jordan is the Goat. He contradict himself all the time when arguing about Mj and LJ. Chris just torched him in this argument.
According to Nick's weak theory, being the GOAT is based on "what ifs" and having the best *longevity* stats. Then I guess Karl Malone is better than MJ too! He wins in most statistical categories overall over MJ.
It’s funny because when I watch people like SAS after a few seconds of him talking I’ve already had enough of what he’s got to say and I’ll usually skip to a entirely different video. But with Chris Broussard I’m interested in his entire input. And the only reason I continue watching Nick or Cc talk is to hear Chris Broussard speak again 🤷🏽♂️
Thank you Chris. Finally an analyst speaks with accurate context regarding MJ vs Lebron over the GOAT. Nick tries to speak total stats, ok. Then gets owned. Nicks tries to speak per games stats. Then gets owned. Lebron is the 4th or 5th best player of all time. He might retire as 2nd, why hs everyone already jumped him ahead of Kareem and Magic ???
Wow nick Wright is wrong about win shares. Jordan has a higher win shares per 48 minutes = .250 to .235. Lebron has more win shares than Jordan because he played more games, but Jordan beats him on a per game basis
Longevity??? The dude was linked to a steroids clinic. You think he’s stopped? His body hasn’t shrunk. He’s not getting injured. Jordan is hands down the best to ever play.
Not one game! If MJ was able to run around the league and picking the superstars he would play with, he would have 10+ rings. There is nothing else to talk about, evidently, so we must have this ridiculous discussion 🤷♀️.
Listen, I watched MJ play and now I watch Lebron play and the margin of how much better MJ is is MASSIVE. It really is. Broussard analysed it aptly; MJ is by far a better and superior post player, finisher at the rim, midrange shooter, defender, and I’d even say 3 point shooter. People need to remember how offensively and defensively dominant MJ was in a physical and tough era where emphasis was on finishing in the paint & midrange shooting over the biggest and most dominant athletic 7 feet tall centres guarding the rim all game long, not the three point shooting and soft fouls era of today. There are seven or eight players (small forwards) from MJ’s era who’ll easily dominate Lebron James in today’s era and make him look ordinary.
broussard is the most important person in sports tv journalism. no hype or giving hot takes just for the views. just brings everybody brings back down to earth w/ his points backed up w/ logically arguments
Mike Mazer listen bro Jordan I understand, but Kobe isn’t better than Lebron... by every advanced analytic ever. His career numbers are better... he’s never not been the best player on his own team... he’s hit more game winners in the playoffs, more MVP’s, more finals mvp’s, just more than Kobe could ever do... lebron has better career numbers in the post season. I don’t even know why I’m beating this dead horse... the horse has been dead since 2013
Jordan has the all time highest scoring average in NBA history at 30.1 and in the playoffs that goes up to 33.4. Lebron has averaged 27.2 but keep in mind that number is only going to go down from this point on as his skills diminish. The only reason Lebron is passing Jordan is simply because he has played way more games.
Broussard is 1000% correct. i'm just surprised he has LeBron #2 on his list. Jordan was a better finisher, better post player, better mid-range shooter, better ball-handler, better on-ball defender, and even a better shot-blocker despite being 3 inches shorter. he was also a much better competitor and probably more clutch. i understand LeBron has hit a lot of game-winning shots, just most of them weren't nearly as memorable as Jordan's or on the same level like Jordan's finals game 6 winner vs Utah. if LeBron had hit the shot Kyrie did to win the championship vs the Warriors you would respect that a lot more. LeBron's finals loss to Dallas is also the worst blemish on any player's GOAT claim in NBA history. i would have LeBron ranked 6th, behind Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, and Magic.
I am one of those that believe James is the best ever and I am bias about that. But have to agree with Chris. One of Lebron greatest weakness is not being able to fit in a system; being adaptable. He could have had six rings a long time ago if accept coaching and a different way of doing things. My take looking from the outside (which is limited).
What got into Chris this morning, spitting all those facts!! Got Nick all in his feelings! Nick tried to put his cape on but Broussard wasn't hearing it. E Feezy on the GSW sideline shaking his head at Nick.
Does LeBron passing MJ on the all-time scoring list make him the GOAT?
First Things First: Cris Carter and Nick Wright if Lebron becomes the #1 leading scorer of all time then yes. Nobody thought anybody would ever catch Kareem, especially not lebron. If you go back in time 10 years to 2009 before Lebron went to Miami. And told everyone Lebron will go down as the all time leading scorer, people would think ur crazy and lying.
He solidified himself as a better all-around basketball player than Jordan when he led his team to winning the 2016 championship coming back down 3-1 while he was playing with a pass first mentality (assisting on 50% of his teams shots) when the odds were stacked against his team. Everything that he's been doing since then will be the frosting, icing, sprinkles, and the lit candles added on top to make his case even stronger.
Mistah Unknown nah.....
@@MistahUnknown stop it Nick. delete your burner account.
Hello no!
Chris Broussard is speaking facts
@G-man
Saying LeBron is the best ever, that's a lie. Completely overrated and honestly, quite disappointing. LeBron James is the G.L.O.A.T. *Greatest Loser Of All Time*
@@brucebruce5103 Facts
@G-man Nick wrong saying lequit is be better than MJ is a lie
@G-man that Lebron is a better passer...the only time Jordan was asked to be ball dominate like Lebron ie ball in hand and making decisions, he put up numbers Lebron never has in a season:
"Jordan continued to play at the PG spot until the end of the season. In these 24 games he averaged 30.4 pts, 9.2 rebs, 10.7 asts & 2.4 stls. Between March 24 and April 14, 1989, he recorded a triple double in ten of the eleven games, including seven consecutive ones. In the game he didn’t record a TD, he finished with 40 points, 11 assists and 7 rebounds."
@@brucebruce5103 come on dude. Now thats a little too far....saying lebron is overrated is like saying kobe or tom brady is overrated. Like chris said, lebron has been hyped since high school and he exceeded it not only he exceeded it, he literally the best player in the world for pretty much almost a decade. You gotta give lebron credit for that and he got cleveland a championship in basketball. Hes not better than jordan but hes obviously top 10 and debatable as top 5.
Broussard just came in and cooked nick wrong
@ Saeed Vilanueva....it's amazing how Broussard does make his arguments but NEVER mentions Kobe. From 2000-2010 Kobe went to 7 Finals and won 5 rings!! ....and he did it for the same team with 2 completely different core units
Real talk
Facts
@@pfunk42 Kobie was not teh best player on 2 of those rings
You ever notice how much he stutters when he’s arguing with someone that’s spitting fact at him and using his points against him
Lebron doesn’t need to play Defense anymore, Nick Wright is playing Defense for him 😂😂😂😂
LMFAO
Kakaroto K 😂
Facts 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Loser
Broussard just annihilated Nick on every point. Get this 🤥 out of there and my man Chris in.
arj1986 I wouldn’t say he annihilated him, nick definitely held his own
Matthew Pettiford
On what exactly?
Facts 💯
@kixgod.com ummmm, i'm sure jordan was fustrated with his team getting knocked out of the playoffs each year before the GM started putting players around MJ lol.
@@quantrellh.4939 im sure lebron was tired of getting swept in the finals so he keeps changing teams
If beating GS counts as more than 1 ring... losing to Dallas should count as more than 1 finals loss
UtotheJ I can get behind that point, heeeuuuuuge favorites to win, huge, and you had Dwade and Bosh to help
this is actually a very good point
Not only losing but Barrera and Terry outplayed him.
Not even the HOF that MJ went against in The Finals out played him.
JJ Barrera is 5'8
That Dallas team beat a lot of your favorite players that year. That team is very underrated
Facts. Since we giving values for rings to make other players look better. I don't care if the whole team is full of all stars, if you are the best player on that team, your ring is valuable. All rings that aren't valuable are the one's from players that barely contribute, like the white mamba.
lol nick looked shook when broussard came with facts.
Fr on god
ThreeCreators no facts should bother him? WTF
"has him beat in every stat" well he better, there's no defense in 2019
no he didn't. he always looks like that
Chris a real one
Thank you Chris Broussard.. Some good key points on MJ over Bron
Did CC say that that 2016 Cleveland team with Kyrie Irving who averaged 28ppg in that series was one of the worst teams ever?
Have this guy drug tested please
HAHAHA CC tried it
Just pure disrespect.
Nick Wrong , Colin & Shannon Shame needs psychiatric help
colin's kinda turning the corner on lebron. he is a professional flip-flopper tho
@Tod Wilkinson You a kid, or OCD. But, what about 2015 when Ky and Love both got injured.
I need to catch this show more often when Broussard is on. I find myself always either agreeing with him or at least enjoying his arguments; also he seems to have good chemistry with Cris and Nick.
cormag590 Agreed. He seems one of the more objective analysts that didn’t play professionally
Chris the 🐐 Broussard with the collateral headshot lol.
AEO it’s Chris Broussard the 🐐
Nick got SMOKED by Chris.
oskaveli662 Chris doesn’t know what to say haha
Broussard the goat analyst... Always facts
This was a quality segment.
Goat debate. And I mean Goatsard and Nickoat
Chris Broussard bodied Nick in this. RIP Nick Wrong
@TheChongmaster LOL no he isn't. He's still as terrible an analyst as ever
Nick Wrong was born in 1984. If say he only started watching the NBA at age 12-13, he didn't grow up watching MJ like some of us did. I was an MJ fan by 1990.
No wonder the Lebron love, this dude is a kid like me lol. And I’m 24. Luckily my Pops schooled me on history so I know what’s what
Feel u, I was born 82, but everyone knew about MJ before I was even in public school lmaoooo I had to be 4-5 yrs old wantin to “be like mike”! 💯
Marketing to kids (I wanna be like Mike, space jam) to gain popularity the bleeds into folklore that then adds to revenue of a brand that is still going strong today..... great marketing so great infact you really never needed to see who might really was...didn't need to he fit the mold...he fit the system....he fit the position....that why when a system goes to another team they find another player that fits that mold (Kobe) and then he does what the other player did as well....it's not the player it's the system.....y'all should be thank Phil for both Jordan and kobe
You don't have to grow up watching MJ. There are these things called "tapes" and "recordings" of all Michael Jordan games. With that said, Nick Wright has been dead wrong ever since he started saying Lebron is better than MJ.
LA Clippers so true I was born in 1979 so I started watching NBA in late 80s. So I saw every Jordan Finals. The man was the GOAT no dispute.
"Longevity" stats - LeBron
Hardware/accolades - MJ
Talent/Skills - MJ
Heart/Intangibles - MJ
Influence/Impact - MJ
Influence and impact is definitely lebron by the way. And I would say talent and intangibles are probably lebron as well for his freakish height and athleticism
Tod Wilkinson well Lebron is still playing in the league lol
Less shots - LeBron
@@DebtlessJet influence and impact strictly basketball is Jordan and it aint even close... off the court/away from the game yes...
@@russellmusictv4403 more finals appearances... less rings
Congrats to Lebron. I still can’t believe Nick Wright thinks Lebron is better than MJ though. But he even said he didn’t grow up watching MJ he’s just like other Lebron fans that call him the GOAT
Darren Jones he's a millennial, what else is new.
Most didn’t grow up watching MJ, people just say MJ because of the media hype.
Sean Dolan no one ever had more media hype than Lebron, and yet you still think it was because of ‘ Media Hype ‘ that people think MJ was better ? And oh btw, I for one grew up watching MJ , Magic, Bird , Isaiah etc...
Mind of the North Star Not really. Only defensively. But offensively they’re even. Jordan only averages 3 more points than LeBron while LeBron shoots better from the field and from three and averages more assists, and he beats Jordan in all the advanced offensive stats.
you don't need to grow up watching MJ there's something called tapes
seeing both play looking at both players stats I give a slight edge to Lebron
90s was not a good era despite what people say expansion teams and talent that was very spread apart made it seem like it was competitive but that was just the regular season only teams with 2+ stars were legit contenders Rockets, Bulls, Jazz.
Defense is overstated yea it was a tougher era but players were slower and team defenses lacked the same nuance as they do today. (help defense was illegal). Furthermore, Jordan was the one who started the super star treatment and phantom calls after he complained that the pistons were too tough.
That being said Jordan was an offensive beast and like Broussard said had no weaknesses in his game, and 6 championships 6 finals MVPs you can't argue against that. And the biggest edge he has on LeBron is that killer mode (kobe has the killer mode but he's far less efficient that either player).
Why I think lerbon is better: I think the 2000s was the most competitive era of basketball period. There were multiple legit contenders every year and teams with multiple all stars on it every year. Lebron single handedly carried the team to a finals against a championship Detroit pistons team. The 2010s became much more top heavy but he almost single handedly beat the warriors in 2015 and led the greatest comeback in nba history in 2016. Also put up career highs in his 15th season in both rebounds and asst.
Those are my reasons. If you wanna have a civilized debate I'm game but people need to stop hating on LeBron and stop hating on "millennials"
I love how Nick is panicking against CC and Broussard in his defence for Lebron. He probably stomped to his change room after they were done , crying and slamming the door behind him. Poor little Nicky.
He need some milk😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Quite an imagination you have.
Onlyrealmusic4life thanks
the look CC and Jenna gave each other 9:37 when Nick is trying to make his argument lol
Thank you Chris.B for shutting down that weak "well Bill Russell has 11 he's the goat" NO bums, he didnt dominate like Mike, played in a weaker less talented era and there were only 8 teams in the league NOT 30. Let no one deceived with Russell 11 Rings over Jordan 6 argument.
Russell did dominate the league like Jordan did he did it on the defensive end and on the glass so where is he's point after that
@@jamesdravenellii2287 yeah, but he was also in the era with Wilt, so his stats and dominance are pointless against the Godly Wilt stats
I freakin hate it when they pull the bill russell card to try to defeat Jordan's 6-0 rings. You lose brain cells debating with those idiots.
Bill Russell win in high school, college and the pros. Boston didn't win anything before him and didn't win until five years after he retired. Stats don't tell the whole story with Russell. Look at the film on his peers.... Or just keep scrolling basketball reference. Russell was an exceptional athlete, was on the track team, bring the ball up and leap from the free throw line (there's video on TH-cam).
DJ Gen facts wilt dominated bill in head up matches
No Nick Wright. That Dallas series will forever be the reason why Lebron will never be the greatest of all time. 8 points in Game 4. 11 points total in all games in the 4th quarter. He froze and exited the GOAT talks right there
Ray Flacco Jordan had a game in the playoffs where he played 46 minutes and only took 8 shots the entire game and finished with 12 points. Larry Bird had 8 points in a Finals game. Magic dribbled the clock out in the Finals game. Kobe shot his team out of a Finals game in 2004. It happens to everybody 🤷🏾♂️ Whether or not you choose to acknowledge it or ignore it is based off how much you like the player or how much you hate them
Wade County facts
Wade County I’m specifically talking about MJ that playoff game did happen but Lebron James did it on the biggest stage. He choked. This was after he mocked Dirk for being sick and he got cocky thinking the series was over. Big mistake he proceeded to choke for the rest of the series.I understand you’re a little bit bias since Lebron helped you win those titles but you have to admit no superstar choked more on a championship stage than Lebron did that series. Not to mention how Lebron said he’d win not four not five not six not seven championships and he wasn’t joking he really thought he could win all those titles
Biggest stain on LBJ record losing to dwight Howard and the starless magic
@@likemikegenerationx2 LeBron was outplayed by Jason Terry in every statistical category but rebounds...in 10 less minutes per game. You mention 1 bad playoff game LeBron choked a whole series away.
True, no one in there 15th season has been the best player in the world... but at the same AGE(34), MJ was the best player in the league winning a scoring title and MVP, and Kobe making the playoffs, lebron at 34 gets knocked out the playoffs...
Facts
Eric Sales if we’re being fair MJ at 34 did not have the same amount of miles Lebron has at 34 on his body
@Timothy Oliver if jordan didn't take those 2 years off he could've won another title plus added another 6,000 points to his career total. the 2 years jordan took off actually helps lebron.
Timothy Oliver
He didn’t quit though and lol at saying MJ had “fresh legs” after being off almost two years. Did you even see MJ play after his comeback? He was nowhere near the MJ of before. He was still very good but not the MJ of old.
@@wavebuurgslim2063 Also add steals would have put him first over john Stockton. So he could have been first in scoring, steals, and blocks for a gaurd which d wade just passed. I agree those 2 missed seasons definitely helps Lebron. Mj goat
Let's throw out the ring argument, Nick. Take every MVP, Finals MVP, DPOY, ROY and MJ still trumps Kobe and LeBron COMBINED. Stop relying on the hypothetical for your arguments.
LeBron leads Jordan in every statistical category except free throw shooting and PPG... Think about that..
Garrett Crenshaw and still 3-6 and has less accolades even tho he’s played longer and having more assists and uncontested defensive rebounds doesn’t make u better
@@lawrencemcdonald9212 sure ignore logic and facts... And finals record is a team stat not an individual one.. Bill Russell won 11 rings but you Jordan fans never mention him when you bring up Jordan being 6-0 in the finals... And the accolades argument is irrelevant... LeBron has been the best player in the league the last 10 years yet they give it to someone new to help promote the individual players in the league... You can't honestly tell me Harden had a better year than LeBron did last year all stats considered...
@@bornind.c.in8881 how many hall of famers did bill have when he won? How many did MJ have? Championship are team achievements.. who had less help?
@@bornind.c.in8881 MJ at age 34 Reg season MVP, All NBA First Team, All Defenstive First Team, All star game MVP, NBA Champion and finals MVP.
LeBron at age 34 - space jam 2
people never wanna mention how jordan had a higher per and win share
lebron has a higher VORP, WIN SHARE, +/- scoring assists literally everything in the playoffs lmao and he didnt play against white guys in short shorts and mechanics
Nor do they mention when he played ball dominant...ala PG..dribble and choose, he avg 32/8/8
Though pippen was guarding the best player
@@Sexygq17 that's a myth perpetuated by some of the idiots in the national media
@@danielk2792 at their peak jordan was better at every advanced metric
Nick has a pillow with Lebrons face on it doesn’t he 🤦♂️😂
L try again
Alex Flood facts
More Like LBJs package, the guy never gets off his nuts.
Corny
I bet your mom told you about this!
Finally Nick swallowed the Truth.. Chris B. Laid it out so plan and simple. 👍
Yes the nba is about winning but for whos better against MJ and Lebron deep down you know it isnt fair at all Lebron 3-6 facing the warrios 3 times and Jordan 6-0 never was an underdog the championship argument isnt a fair one it just isn't that why Nick takes it out and he's right to even thougg jordan is the goat I'm just saying Jordan should have been 6-0 its not like Jordan was only suppose to win 3 tittles and and surpassed what was expected
Chris shut Nick down. Lebron is an all time great player but Jordan is the GOAT!
Can you imagine what MJ contract would’ve been over a 10 year span with today’s NBA tv deals 😳
from 8:09 - 8:57, Broussard *COOKS* Nick. He didn't say anything new (to me) but he's only guy brave enough to say all that on TV.
When Broussard took that sip I almost died..idk why.
Broussard is wise. My #1 go-to NBA commenter.
That was a level of debate Chris Carter and ol girl was not ready for. Just look at their faces😏. Broussard ate Nick’s lunch and took his candylady money 😂
I'd like to nitpick a point. After the Bulls' title against the Lakers, MJ became more of a jump shooter. If you watched the '91 Finals, MJ was exhausted because of all the drives he was doing.
Next season, he became more of a jump shooter and would become the best jump shooter in the league.
At least u not lying like Nick W does.
Spot on 🎯
@@Mercurial. you sound like a typical millennial. No facts just feelings.
Jordan should have been mvp every year when he was playing. Eveybody knows it. They just gave it to somebody else for a change. MJ is the Goat.
So could've Lebron
You could say the same about lebron. Jordan the goat, but lebron deserved more mvps from prior years.
@Tod Wilkinson you are actually arguing that Lebron isn't top 10? Just stop dude.
@Tod Wilkinson The league is different now they just give it to people based on storylines, like when Drose was gifted it instead of Lebron getting it.
Thank you Chris for not letting fan boy discredit the GOAT just to try and make Lebron the Goat!
Nick it's ok to be wrong
And Chris, why can't you tell Shannon this?
Cause Shannon has LeBrons D too far down his throat he doesn't want to accept it
Shannon has ranked LeBron third all time after Kareem and Jordan. Is not the same thing, is just that LeBron is his favorite player and he's also fooling around and having fun
@@Mj-uz1ng If you paid attention to Chris when he's a guest on Undisputed, you'd see he does a great job objectively defending Lebron against Skip's psycho Lebron hate. The way Skip professes his heartfelt love for Jordan and Brady, Shannon's not the one you should be accusing of having a "D" down his throat.
I can forgive Nick Wright for being too young to experience MJ. But LeShannon should be ashamed of himself being 50-years-old but acting like he's 10.
Indeed, no sane person who watched MJ play could ever say LeGM is better, even if you ignore all the stats, just use optics, eyes don't lie, these people are delusional
Shannon is on the LBJ payroll plus it makes for good TV to go back and forth with Skip..... Nick is in Love and dreams of LeBron hitting every free-throw all nut.
stats don’t lie😐
Nick Wright is so shook, dude looks like a child that just found out Santa isn't real. It's over.. MJ remains the GOAT.
Love it. Nick Wright is no match for Broussard.
We could see here that Chris Broussard is the better analyst....
Broussard spitting facts especially at the very end
2016 Cavs are the worst champ team?? What are you smoking dude.
🤣
I can only assume it was because they were 1-3 and on the brink of elimination 🤷🏻♂️
reysue I mean it’s was the 73 win Warriors. I think both of those teams were pretty good.
I mean their opinion averages 7 PPG on 37% shooting in the finals
Stats - say LeBron
Hardware/Accolades - MJ
Talent/Skills - MJ
Heart/Intangibles - MJ
Influence/Impact - MJ
LA Clippers MJ is not impact lmao but he is the rest
@@nick6956 lol mj definitely made a huge impact
NBA globalize thru MJ's shoe and legacy
MJ will always be Thee Greatest to me. With that being said we should let Lebron have his moment.
Jordan retired twice, missed a season due to injury, played a short NBA season cause of lockout issues & played college basketball, while LeBron came in straight after high school, never has missed any season due to injury or retirement, or went through a short season, and has played more seasons than Jordan did altogether 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I feel like that’s just a compliment to lebron
Leland Joseph thought it was self explanatory, but in case you missed bfast, LeBron has had way more games to just now reach that milestone. Isn’t impressive, especially considering the difference in actual physical size, which has granted LeBron more of an advantage to easily score, in an era where hand checking isn’t allowed, but was before when Jordan played, in the era of the greatest defensive players.
DebtlessJet a compliment that he took longer to achieve the same thing Jordan did in less time, with more hurdles, tougher defense, and smaller physical frame? You must be a fan lol
Broussard is the GOAT at FS1. All facts, reasonable with no biases.
Thank you Chris! Finally some objectivity
Nick your point isn’t gonna hold any weight sir...MJ is the greatest basketball player...why do they celebrate passing Jordan...only JORDAN...not anyone else??? That is so crazy to me lol
cant be goat if u not best all time at your position...bird>lbj...kd is gonna pass lbj also
LOOOOL look at these comments below, it's a video about a LeBron accomplishment and all you see are his haters, absolutely pathetic.
💯💯💯
I know right, they seem like they are absolutely in love with lebron. beyond all the useless babbling and silliness from them, they do in fact invest more of their personal time into the subject of lebron than professed lebron fans...lebron haters are a walking contradiction. i find them hilarious though
They are usually the first ones to watch and comment when his name is in the title. And then they complain and ask why ESPN keeps talking about him lol
smh
Mj, age 36, MVP, all-star, MVP, finals MVP
Who noticed CC signal Jenna when Chris was taking Nick to town? It was priceless
It is clear to me that the jordan vs lebron conversation is a generational one.
If...If...If...ANYONE....had seen or experienced the viewing of michael.jordans whole career, then there's NO WAY you would even considered lebron in that category.
Mike was greater then the sport.....lebron isn't.
That alone is enough note worthy.
Last, mike had a deep lion inside of him....lebron had friendly mindset of aau which prevented..that.
Lebron vs kobe is a wayyyy better debate.
LeBron been based Kobe and I love Kobe but he ain't better than LeBron
And lebron aint kobe!
Nick Wrong just cant get to his head that Jordan is the Goat. He contradict himself all the time when arguing about Mj and LJ. Chris just torched him in this argument.
Jordan would have 10 rings if he had the super teams that labron has
I drive a Lexus, couple of days ago I passed a Lamborghini.......wooo hooo
Ain't gon lie this is clever John....touche
John G legend
😂😂😂😂 love it
This comment went over sooo many people's head.
...should have 300+ likes
😂😂😂
According to Nick's weak theory, being the GOAT is based on "what ifs" and having the best *longevity* stats. Then I guess Karl Malone is better than MJ too! He wins in most statistical categories overall over MJ.
This is what I been telling people. By LeBron fans logic Karl Malone is GOAT.
LA Clippers When you have to go to the “What if” theory, you have lost..
Chris "The Truth" Broussard
They need to bring Charles Barkely on the show one day, let him debate with Nick
It’s not just the “6 vs 3” argument but Bron also has 6 loses in the series that matters the most 🤷🏾♂️
I think that even if LeBron had a 7-1 finals record he still couldn't pass MJ. 6-0 and 6 finals MVP
It’s funny because when I watch people like SAS after a few seconds of him talking I’ve already had enough of what he’s got to say and I’ll usually skip to a entirely different video. But with Chris Broussard I’m interested in his entire input. And the only reason I continue watching Nick or Cc talk is to hear Chris Broussard speak again 🤷🏽♂️
jordan was terrible from the 3 point line, that's a weakness
Thank you Chris. Finally an analyst speaks with accurate context regarding MJ vs Lebron over the GOAT. Nick tries to speak total stats, ok. Then gets owned. Nicks tries to speak per games stats. Then gets owned. Lebron is the 4th or 5th best player of all time. He might retire as 2nd, why hs everyone already jumped him ahead of Kareem and Magic ???
Wow nick Wright is wrong about win shares. Jordan has a higher win shares per 48 minutes = .250 to .235. Lebron has more win shares than Jordan because he played more games, but Jordan beats him on a per game basis
Stats are for mathematicians. Rings are for winners.
Finals MVPs: 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
Longevity??? The dude was linked to a steroids clinic. You think he’s stopped? His body hasn’t shrunk. He’s not getting injured. Jordan is hands down the best to ever play.
1 Brian Scalabrine
2 jr Smith
3 Kwame brown
4 Darius miles
5 Adam Morrison
That's my list and I'm sticking to it
hartford finezt where is Anthony Bennett
Kwame is the goat frfr
@@nick6956 lol I did think about him
hartford finezt what about Ricky Davis
@@madhungry9856 classic lol
Chris is on fire!!! FACTS. No hate, no extra love.
Give MJ Dwade and Bosh on Miami...they don't lose a game! Nick is lost!
Not one game! If MJ was able to run around the league and picking the superstars he would play with, he would have 10+ rings. There is nothing else to talk about, evidently, so we must have this ridiculous discussion 🤷♀️.
5:00 producer fell asleep and forgot to switch cameras
Actually if you watched it live they were showing mj lebron highlights amd they cant show them on TH-cam clips so basically it was a secondary camera
Who is the camera person on the show way to much times have they put the camera on Nick when he isn’t talking and it’s just so awkward lmao
Please, someone fix this LOLOLOLOL
Davidson Costa Souza yesss man I’m with you
Listen, I watched MJ play and now I watch Lebron play and the margin of how much better MJ is is MASSIVE. It really is. Broussard analysed it aptly; MJ is by far a better and superior post player, finisher at the rim, midrange shooter, defender, and I’d even say 3 point shooter. People need to remember how offensively and defensively dominant MJ was in a physical and tough era where emphasis was on finishing in the paint & midrange shooting over the biggest and most dominant athletic 7 feet tall centres guarding the rim all game long, not the three point shooting and soft fouls era of today. There are seven or eight players (small forwards) from MJ’s era who’ll easily dominate Lebron James in today’s era and make him look ordinary.
Chris was ready with those rebuttles at the end of the video lol the rebounds the scoring, the bill Russell argument. Lol
Chris Broussard brought that hot fire today! Owned all of Nick Wright’s arguments.
My man Chris Broussard sonned Nick Wright
Sit down son and listen! LOL! Let me tell you something!
broussard is the most important person in sports tv journalism. no hype or giving hot takes just for the views. just brings everybody brings back down to earth w/ his points backed up w/ logically arguments
Lebron can’t touch Kobe or Jordan
True. Because they are in the rear-view mirror
Jordan could take over the game on both sides of the ball... he was unstoppable and feared by the league .. I wish Lebrom had that killer instinct
@@MistahUnknown sike doesn't even make sense
Mike Mazer listen bro Jordan I understand, but Kobe isn’t better than Lebron... by every advanced analytic ever. His career numbers are better... he’s never not been the best player on his own team... he’s hit more game winners in the playoffs, more MVP’s, more finals mvp’s, just more than Kobe could ever do... lebron has better career numbers in the post season. I don’t even know why I’m beating this dead horse... the horse has been dead since 2013
To this day I don't know how people can possibly say kobe is better than lebron. Kobe isn't even close to lebron. Get out of here
I want more Nick and Chris debates.
Nick looks and sounds foolish. Thank you Broussard for putting some hair on Nick's bird chest. Thanks for making Nick's voice change.
4:59 - 5:11 that time at the party when you start to think... "wtf am I doing here"? 😂
Jordan has the all time highest scoring average in NBA history at 30.1 and in the playoffs that goes up to 33.4. Lebron has averaged 27.2 but keep in mind that number is only going to go down from this point on as his skills diminish. The only reason Lebron is passing Jordan is simply because he has played way more games.
Lebron averaging 25 in year 21 but his skills are going to "diminish"
Want to rethink that statement genius? 🤣🤣🤣
These are two heavyweights nba analyst going at it. I love it
Yes, very nice to watch
Did Nick Wright just give my GOAT Kobe his props on passing? 😶👂
Look at Cris Carter eyebrows at 10:11 looking at Jenna while Nick talks LOL
So if not championships?!? Why play the GAME?!? Moran!!
Chris gave Nick the bizness
05:07 Nick is about to cry
Idk how nick got that job seriously..
Anyone else think Magic Johnson is overrated? He's got the rings but his stats aren't super impressive
People are starting to take chronicles of judah144 rhetoric.. lol.. he said lebron wasn’t pass first a long time ago..
That guy is so underrated people need to check out his channel
You can tell people at ESPN be watching him.
That's a fact.
I never thought he was pass 1st.
Broussard is 1000% correct. i'm just surprised he has LeBron #2 on his list. Jordan was a better finisher, better post player, better mid-range shooter, better ball-handler, better on-ball defender, and even a better shot-blocker despite being 3 inches shorter. he was also a much better competitor and probably more clutch. i understand LeBron has hit a lot of game-winning shots, just most of them weren't nearly as memorable as Jordan's or on the same level like Jordan's finals game 6 winner vs Utah. if LeBron had hit the shot Kyrie did to win the championship vs the Warriors you would respect that a lot more. LeBron's finals loss to Dallas is also the worst blemish on any player's GOAT claim in NBA history. i would have LeBron ranked 6th, behind Jordan, Kobe, Shaq, Bird, and Magic.
I am one of those that believe James is the best ever and I am bias about that. But have to agree with Chris. One of Lebron greatest weakness is not being able to fit in a system; being adaptable. He could have had six rings a long time ago if accept coaching and a different way of doing things. My take looking from the outside (which is limited).
Underrated argument
Alex Graham fax
This clip should be named: Chriss Brousard owning Nick Wrong
Facts
Chris Broussard cooked that dude lol
For real 😂😂
It's a never ending debate. Kareem, Jordan, Bron all Goat's of their era
1. MJ 2. Kobe 3. LeBron. Can’t put him over the mamba just yet.
Good to hear Broussard defending Jordan's greatness against Nick Wright!
broussard preaching as usual
This Chris B. guy knows his stuffs. Facts, facts, and informed opinion will win the argument every time..
Nick Wright had no new material to back up his claims and Chris really kind of made Nick look like just a stat fan who doesn't watch the game.
What got into Chris this morning, spitting all those facts!! Got Nick all in his feelings! Nick tried to put his cape on but Broussard wasn't hearing it. E Feezy on the GSW sideline shaking his head at Nick.
Broussard made a convincing argument and he didn't even mention Jordan's superior defense or his superior killer instinct / winning mentality