Obsessing Over Roommate Until He Does the Unthinkable
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2024
- In 2013, US Army Veteran Maribel Ramos suddenly vanished. Life had been going so well for her at the time, and her disappearance seemed inexplicable. However, when a close friend started commenting on a Yelp thread, he may have said a little too much.
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The fact that he was wearing her dog tags when they arrested him.....disturbing.
Fucking right!?
He want to keep her close to him.
@@NASkeywest Right. That's why even after the fact he kept googling the location of her body.
Indeed, the fact that he knew what happened to her and by wearing her tags, it was his way of accepting what he did and holding on to her at the same time.
Is that you in your profile picture
The zoom on the "gooo" really elevated the regular "have a gooo"
Needed to spice it up
@@ThatChapter😏🌶 nicely done.
@@ThatChapter You’re so good to us 😉
I enjoyed this
@@ThatChapter very spicy
It's amazing to me how little weight was given to Maribel's preemptive 911 call where she basically said 'if anything happens to me, it's because of KC'
My thoughts exactly.
I was thinking of this as well!
I was thinking that halfway through this! What about her phone call, why aren't they asking him about that?
That's because you don't understand how law works. I can call police now and say if anything happens it's Alexandra Naughton who did it. See how easy that is? I can them commit suicide. It's called criminal process. You don't just assume everything. You have to prove it. Read a book FFS.
@@kos2932 that’s just a tad harsh don’t ya think? It could help describe a history of bad behavior or something. It’s not the only thing obviously, but it helps to paint the picture of a person. None of us said convict on this alone. Why so rough, it doesn’t make sense?
This is my aunt, thank you so much for raising awareness and keeping her story alive. It has been hard for her to not be here with my mom Lucy and I but time heals 🙏🏻❤️
This WAS your aunt.
@@franzkafka4046 yes
so sorry for your loss, she seems like she was an amazing woman.
So sorry for your loss.
@@franzkafka4046 You're rude. You know what the young lady meant.
i like how he said to the police "somebody always comes back to the crime scene or whatever" and that was exactly how he was caught.
What made him search the location and zoom in on it? I just don't get how he could be that stupid. What did he gain by doing that?
@@MDCxThePG i would like to know that too. It doesn't make sense.
@@MDCxThePG probably sick satisfaction in reliving the crime or moments he shared with her, but idk, I'm just an armchair detective..
I think he had to be thinking the view was real time or close to real time so that he was looking to see if the scene had been discovered or messed with not to mention they say killers often revisit the places they dispose of victims. I think Ted Bundy was well known for that
@@MDCxThePG They were doing a search in the area... it was well known throughout Orange that volunteers were searching around that area and he was checking to see how close the search was to the area he put her body.
"I miss Maribel more than anyone"
The arrogance, to assert this when she had a whole actual family who loved her and suffered actual grief.
Yeah, who could imagine such arrogance coming from a murderer?
I mean she clearly was in a relationship with the guy and using him. then she wanted to just break it off. this was a crime of passion. ( can you tell im a lawyer? )
@@hurpaderpp Nothing clear about the relationship bit actually, if anything, sounds like he was obsessed and she wasn't interested, even afraid. And how was she using him? 🤔
@@ssa3913 no evidence in this video maybe. She was 100% using this guy for money or sleeping with him for money. I’ve seen it a million times. She didn’t deserve to die but you reap what you sow 🤷🏻♂️ you don’t get murdered for singing too loud in church
I actually thought the same thing. If not that, then she was definitely leading him on. I mean, she let's him go out with her, takes "boyfriend" type pictures with him.. Yeah, she was using him
Poor Maribel, she opened up her home & offered him friendship, she seemed like a lovely person. RIP 💜
Note for all women:
you do not open your house to strange men, or are too open with them.
Seriously... It makes me so sad that a heroic young woman who seemed to have worked so hard to make a nice life for herself... Opened her home to a man and welcomed him into her life when few else, if any, would... It's awful. She deserved much better. My heart goes out to her family and true friends, who I'm certain love and miss her far more than that horrid excuse for a roommate ever does.
Never let people you don't know in your house, meet in public. also worst rent agreement ever.
@@jiyu5990 You're not wrong... I've had two awful experiences letting the wrong people in my life. But they're not always men! One of the worst experiences I've had was with another woman. It doesn't hurt to be extra careful whom we let into our homes and hearts....
@@staceyann1180 Yeah, I don't think we should paint all men like that. I've been hurt by both men and women in my days.
This woman survived two tours in iraq, just to be killed by some sick bastard on her own soil. Such a sad event to take place, I feel for her family and TRUE friends
The fact that the investigators weren't already watching his every move is insane. The 911 call and the yelp posts scream guilty.
Referring to her in the past tense was a dead giveaway. I would have said something about that bit too.
He was obviously looking for attention, googling anything in relation to Ramos and plugging himself in the convo, a red alarm sign when you combine it with the other elements.
I guarantee they were were monitoring him. Those comments would help nothing in a court case. They needed a lot more than that.
@@mrs.schmenkman Yes and could be explained by English not being his native language.
Tony Ortega No, he's saying it was a red flag he was guilty of something - not that it was innocent searching
There's just a horrific irony in killing someone who you keep saying you'd give up your life for.
not ironic at all. people who make this type of statement are usually the possessive type and they're wackos.
And one who says all he wants is to be a dad, then smothers 2 daughters and shoves them in oil tanks..
@@eruditeinteractions8258 💯
@@eruditeinteractions8258 hahahaha, if only Watts could see this 😂🤣😂
DO life for.
Kwang: "...so I was watching the house with my binoculars because I know the perpetrator often returns to the scene of their crime."
Detective: "Yeah. *YOU!!!* "
Shouldn't that have been a huge red flag for the cops since the house wasn't even considered a crime scene at that stage, especially since she "never came home"
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@@shannonjackson9778 that's so true
Can we all just take a minute to congratulate the one guy on Yelp who noticed the main suspect was using past tense and called him out like it was a game of among us
Seriously though. That woman who called him out all patronizingly for "speculating" was just insufferable
@@Wyatt_Riley It was speculating. He was speaking in broken English.
He used both past and present tense in that post.
Guess what, the police did their job and secured a conviction, no neckbearded fedora wearing Internet sleuth required.
@@Wyatt_Riley no
I agree with the woman's sentiment, it is supposed to be innocent before proven guilty after all. That being said, the guy who called him out does deserve credit. You do have to be sharp and critical enough to catch that (or at least knowledgeable of true crime stuff).
Sus 😂
"Maribel was a real tomboy."
**shows image of Maribel wearing a shirt that says "Tom"**
You sneaky bastard.
Ha!!!
I caught that 😅
Mike is the best
I saw that also and was gone write a comment about it, but after watching the video I forgot, but your comment reminded me of it again.
"I would give my life for her" yet would not move out of the house for her.
I once told a man like that "but the only thing I want is for you to leave me alone", wow..I shouldn't have, but I hope it got him somewhere deep inside.
Or pay the rent to help support himself
Sounds about right and people like that believe their own lies . They will kick you and will adamantly say they love you .
When people say they would give their life for someone, they are also the same kind of people that could take away someone else's life! It's Psychopath 101.
He said he'd give life for her, but he ultimately only had to give fifteen years.
The kind of dude that kills his roommate then goes to her room, goes through her stuff, smells her clothes, reads her personal effects and then puts her dog tags on.
Why is this so specific
Eddie Valiant! How's Roger doing?
Oh stooooop it. Rogers laying off the booze as usual. P-p-p-p-p-please Eddie!
@@ILoooooveCamels Because thats something he’d probably did
@@I.KUchiha "...and then he probably wrote 'Eddie Valiant was here' on the mirror with his weenie"
What a stark contrast in portraits of selflessness and selfishness. Maribel took care of her siblings; served her country bravely with two tours of duty in Iraq; and offered friendship to someone who had no one; in contrast, KC responded to her kindness with possessive obsession and violently robbed her of her life when he failed to meet his obligations as a roommate. Not only does KC himself contribute nothing to society, but he also deprived society of someone who gave so much.
That 911 call from Maribel naming KC as a threat... that was chilling. He did something very disturbing because she was ready to kill his ass.
Wonder what he'd already done to put her in that heightened state, doubt she rang 911 cos he annoyed her. Maybe he'd tried getting in her room at night or something?
Anybody else wish she had?
@@thecourtlyalchemist simp
@@charmolettafranquestafiestayam Of course, I've been married happily for 32 years. I'm so old I had to look up the definition. Back in my day they called it being a gentleman. Back then that was considered a good thing.
@@thecourtlyalchemist Oi mate you got it wrong. A simp aint no gentlemen, they are weak willed, feckless, doting, desperate losers.
Simping is not the same as treating women with respect. Its akin to unconditional worship.
There are tree guarantees in life death, taxes and Mike making me feel better twice a week at tree pm. Thanks Mike.
JOHNNY GLEASON: Oh, that's interesting. Do you live in Ireland too? What does he do to you twice a week? Does he keep his shirt on? And his glasses?
Okay
Twice a week ,makes 4😂
Agree..got love him
At “tree” pm 😌
Mike reading out the typos in KC’s posts is such a guilty pleasure. Love it.
Rob Dyke does that too and in such a serious tone, it's hilarious
@@a7x5631 yes. Love him too.
Completely. I almost felt bad for laughing. Almost..
Ever notice how a few of his yelp posts had immaculate spelling and grammar?
KC Joy is actually from Korea not China. When this came out, the Korean community in OC and the entire U.S. was mortified. We still feel a sense of shame whenever we hear about the terrible suffering his crime is causing. RIP Maribel.
That clears my confusion since I know Joy is not a Chinese last name. Thanks.
@@wisdomleader85 Joy isn't a Korean last name either. I presume it's either Kwang or Cho, both of which can be Korean last names.
Koreans shouldn’t feel bad. We know bad people exist in any race. It’s just a tragic story for all.
Choi is a common Korean last name.
So honorable , so very decent and humane of your Korean community to feel shame because KC Joy certainly had none . People who are evil bring shame to their entire community and to humanity at large .
"On the turd of may, twenty turdteen...".
My favourite sentence ever.
Love him 😂
@@meliapo1367 weirdly enough he can speak the th perfectly when not talking about numbers. Is he disabled or something?
@@chriseffpunkt4333 pretty sure hes just british.
@@chriseffpunkt4333 Scottish people don’t pronounce the H.. No, it’s not wrong like you were implicating, it’s the way it’s supposed to be pronounced with that accent. When I hear Americans talk I hear a lot of words that are said “wrong” because what I know as correct pronunciation is different than yours.
Dude's just Irish. He likes his turds.
He keeps saying he “misses her more than anyone” or “is more worried than anyone” and it’s beyond insulting to her actual love ones.
It was actually a very telling sign that he's done something to her. People tend to exaggerate everything when they're lying or covering something up.
@@iamrandomsauce I don’t completely agree with this.
His wording is also a case of English barriers perhaps in his native tongue it would sound very different.
I’m not saying he’s not the perpetrator but I think there is a lot of lacking evidence and some very strange things in this case.
He seems like a narc
@@ellisdee420 I watched this case on Dateline and they interviewed him in jail. Complete narcissist.
@@JNR22B you do have a point that language barriers should be taken under consideration. Yet, I don't think this may be even considered to be the case, as he uses the same things over and over again: "my one and only family", "my absolute bff", etc. Also, I speak Korean and even though its vocabulary is different from Chinese, culturally there are similarities. He doesn't use that complex of a dictionary to say that he might not be acquainted with the correct meaning. And it doesn't really matter as in either language, the use of these extra exaggerations would mean the same thing - "I'm hiding something or I'm lying about something".
I was deployed with her in 03. I didn’t know her too well but I remember her being super cool. Always had a smile on her face. My best friend had the biggest crush on her. This is really sad.
She was so beautiful inside and out.
@@heartlights I’m not sure if he served or not.
@Josh 88M. We’ve been to some infantry fobs. We definitely had it much better than them.
@Josh what are you talking about ? We deploy with females all the time.
@@andretate351 thank you for you service brother
'Maybe I'll just die in prison '
That'll do for me.
RIP Maribel.
When she said he's too old for her, she was just being kind, not wanting to hurt his feelings. Saying "because you're a creep and a loser" would be a bit much I guess.
@New kid on the block not a creep? a loner chemist, no family, caught in the friend zone, very shifty, when told he is too old for a woman who is 20 years younger than him he immediately responds by getting $12,000 of plastic surgery, and then did his own surveillance on the house...
Man the dude is a fuckin creep. And if you don't think he is, then you are too.
If he was creep why would she hangout with all the time and introduce to her family
Did she think he was a creep & a loser...
She seemed to be hanging out with him a fair bit. You don’t do that with roommates you think are creepy. I lived with several people (at different times) never had anything social to do with them, just live with them.
This thread is getting victim blamey. If you've never been stuck in a situation with someone you're scared of, then you have no idea why she acted the way she did. Listen to her 911 call again. She was terrified of him. I know personally I've been overly nice and accommodating to creeps, because they're scary. I can't imagine what it must have been like to have to live with him.
I’m 40 and my husband’s 59. But then he’s not a creepy weirdo murderer. As far as I know....🤫😄
He was obsessed with her, he didn't love her. You don't do that to someone you love..
YES! People don't get that. Once a friend told me that he was obsessed with another woman and he thought that I was jealous. He was very surprised and insulted when I told him that I need him obsessing over me, like I need a migraine. I truly can't understand how obsession or jealousy are considered as signs of love. They're not!
Love is just brain chemicals. There’s no set definition of it. Insane people do insane things all the time because they feel love.
@@headphonic8 I agree with you. To them, it is just as real as to someone healthy and balanced falling in love. But because they're toxic, the love they give is toxic, too.
@@headphonic8 you must be one of the crazies
I don't think he did it. Why would he look up the location of the body on the library computer after burying it? He would already know where it was. And apart from that, there's no evidence.
I love when Mike says ‘clickedity clackity’
I love when Mike says words.
I only watch it make Mike not mad and coming over to my place demanding a good explanation... He scares me being like this, he did it much more when he had less than 500k subs, nowadays he almost seems nice!
Same lol
@@samhausmann1479 Your post confuses me...
I like when he says, "let's give it a goooo!" :)
"Where did you get all these scratches?"
"Fishing"
"Fishing?"
"Fishing lines"
"Fishing lines?"
"A dog"
"A dog?"
"Fishing for dogs"
Should I make the joke....nah....
@@Sam-go3mb What joke do ya mean? How about you tell me over some nice dog soup?
Dogfish ?
😭😂😭😂😭
Let me explain...
If he was sitting in his car with binoculars watching for the killer to come back he had the binoculars facing the wrong way.
As I agree with you, kc is sick and my aunt should still be here 😞
Eh he probably looked at the mirror through them once or twice
@@Igc2898 Sorry for your loss, your Aunt was robbed of what should have been an amazing life for her.
Or he must have been using the binoculars watching the rear-view mirror!!
The recording she left saying she will fight him with all her might, naming him specifically, paired with the Google search should be enough to seal the deal forever. I hope he never gets out. What a coward!!!!
Also, the fact that he was about to get kicked out of his apartment for not having no job/income and not paying his share of rent, from the woman he was obsessed with.
Not many would befriend that guy, so she lost her life as a result of her kindness.
That's why I'm mean..
You own a '68 Charger?
Kindness or blindness
movies are wrong , you have to stay away from the weirdos
Kindness have nothing to do here .
RIP, Soldier. Thank you for everything.
Plot Twist: Grant framed KC just so that he could have the last word on the yelp thread
Grant was the the one that remotely sent MB’s body location to the computer KC happened to be using just so he could have the last word on yelp. Devious 🤨
@@raerae6422 Undoubtedly the sneakiest villain we've ever covered
@@ThatJayBloke wait till you find out that grant was the actual murderer and committed the crime so that a yelp thread would be started where he could get the last word in.
karma, she particpitated in the killing of irakian too
@@Cenentury0941 Grant is one conniving bastard...
Wait... when he staked out his own house because “the criminal may return to the scene of the crime”, why didn’t they ask him why he assumed/knew the house was the scene of the crime? He said she left and never came home...
They likely did pursue similar lines of questioning but he was pretty good about keeping the waters just murky enough.
With that statement you've given this case more thought than the police did
Good observation.
Well spotted
@@keterclass3541 Cops aren't known for their intelligence after all.
Wow, that yelp user who tried to help him by explaining why he shouldn't be posting, lol. What a considerate person, I'm really shocked how civil that whole thread was.
Right! You don't see people being this nice on the internet
Right. It was with pure good intentions.
Your looking at it with the advantage of hindsight.
Let's pretend for a second that he were innocent and after making his suspicious comments the police focused solely on him. It takes the investigation in the wrong direction. Then we have the constitution promising every defendant is entitled to a trial by an impartial jury of his or her peers. We are all his peers right? If we happened to come across that yelp post which happened before the arrest and come to a decision on his guilt... Things like that can create situations where it causes even more injustice to the already grieving family. Or it could lead to an innocent person going to prison.
That guy gave very sound advice which is good for everyone involved.
Different era of the internet.
I remember seeing a show on this case and it really drove how incredibly vulnerable the average woman is. She was a trained soldier and still this pos was able to kill her. Unfortunately women don’t have the luxury of being kind to these lost puppy type people especially when it’s somebody who can hurt or kill them
That may have been true before firearms were invented. Then everyone became vulnerable.
It struck me that he waited until she was asleep to attack her. That was quite probably because he knew (possibly from experience) that he could not win a physical altercation any other way. Even the hulk would be vulnerable to such deviousness. A POS indeed.
anyone can die from a random blow or bullet to the back of the head.
Mike's the Mr. Rodgers of crime channels.
Mr. Rodgers was never this funny.
“It’s a beautiful day in te neighborhood...”
Rogers
@tyler ramsey that'd be you
Can you say "home in-va-sion?" I knew you could...
Such a tragic story. Rest in peace Sergeant Ramos!
Wholesome, proactive, dynamic and pretty. Another sad loss to the world among countless ones.
A very sad loss indeed ❤️🌹🇺🇸🙏
Ah, yelp, the place everybody goes to in order to discuss missing persons cases. Second only to bodybuilding forums
Misc
I have the feeling you know something I don't
@@lurip79 there's a few bodybuilding forums that have had some interesting stuff come up. There's a couple specifically where users always talk about spooky stuff or irl stuff like this .
I miss forums.
@@tashahatzidakis5680 misc veteran here 😎 RIP Zyzz, inb4 Clive.
I can only think of that episode of South Park that had that funny ass song of boogers and cum
It really irks me that he keeps saying how he misses her more than anyone....what a slap in the face to her family and other loved ones who genuinely cared for and miss her.
Oh, I guess we were supposed to feel bad when he said, “I guess I’ll just die in prison.”
Um....I think not!!!
But he did have defensive wounds. Those scratches on his arms for sure was Maribel fighting back. They should have examined them much more closely.
@@notsousual2938 her body was badly decomposed and if she was already that bad then his skin cells under her nails didn't stand a chance.
It doesn't sound like they ever really believed that fishing line story.
As stated in the video, hers was still a missing person case, when this status changed, they put survailance on him.
Scratches aren't enough to charge someone with murder. You should know that cops need way more than that, or else they risk losing the case entirely.
@@a-roh5039 scratches + disappearance though.. time to look closer. which they did. bravo.
Out of most stories, this affected me so much. She didn't deserve this death. Him wearing her dog tags was so devastating
Yeah, this is one of the ones that left me really angry and sad. Faith Hedgepeth was another.
@@moviemad56 can you please explain to me what is so special about dog tags?
@@polinaair6097
It could be any piece of jewellery. He wore something belonging to a woman he murdered. It's like he was proud of it.
@@moviemad56 what??!!! No. No no no no! Dogtags are given to SOLDIERS IN THE MILITART! So the body can be identified if mangled in warfare, they say your name, religion and blood type
@@polinaair6097 dog tags are given to soldiers in the military so their body can be identified if killed in combat or identified if unrecognizable
The comment section is the best part of these videos 😭😭 I come straight here
Same
This shows you shouldn't be around someone just out of pity. 😔
I hate to be "the feminist" here to ruin the day, but girls are taught to do just this from day one. Even kids movies we watch for fun beg we do it. It's bizarre because no other part of the community reciprocates so there's a huge chance we will be utterly used or even more seriously harmed.
@@TahtahmesDiary I've always seen movies that show someone who dates out of pity as vilified.
Also most men hate pity dates.
@@TahtahmesDiary so true! 🙏🏼
Absolutely. There's actually a protocol for this that people who work at homeless shelters and rehab centers.
@ohh geee Same. Fucking same. I used to be drawn to the "misfit/outcast" type. The last one I befriended 'cuz she was being picked on by our coworkers. She turned out to be probably the most dangerous/fucked up/evil person I've ever known. It took about six months for my nightmares about her to go from nightly to nonexistent.
"...and not turning this into a witch hunt."
*Hunt A Killer ad immediately plays*
I wish I could like this comment more then once.
@Jumpcut Jimmy calm down professor pedantic
A turd party
@Jumpcut Jimmy wow calm down spelling police 👮♀️,it’s you tube not an exam,don’t be pedantic you know what was meant.yesterday this happened to a commenter as she made a mistake as she was in hospital on meds!!some one done this to her and it’s put her off commenting ,some people take things to heart,you might have thought you were helping but ...sorry for long reply 💖🇬🇧
@Jumpcut Jimmy yeah a right hero lol captain anal lol 😂
Brilliant cut of “let’s have a goo” 😂
Just watched this case on Netflix and I had to come back here as I felt you covered it more succinctly in less time.
What an absolute Legend!
Did Netflix also consider KC Joy as a Chinese man incorrectly?
“I solved this case because i pointed out the suspicious man saying suspicious things acting suspicious” that’s all you need to put someone away. Thanks Grant
Grant needs a smack 😉
He wasn’t wrong though. 🤦🏼♂️
parisite99 it must be really hard to be Grant
@@opaljk4835 I'll grant you that much!
Adam J K sounds a bit suss to me 🤔
"Let's have a GOOOOOOOOOOOO" - Mike, 2020
Guuuuuu
“I miss her more than anyone” imagine she was your daughter and you heard this guy say that, it’s bad enough to say that even if he didn’t do it but knowing he did it and for him to still say that, makes it 10x worse..
In his head, he thought that made him sound more innocent but in reality he was exposing himself as an apathetic psychopath that can’t comprehend other people’s feelings, he doesn’t even have the ability to appeal to people’s feelings for his own benefit..
It seems like he genuinely cared for her, but in that obsessive "if I can't have you, no one can!" psychotic way. The way he had to be near her at all times anf getting plastic surgery to impress her screams desperate.
All that might mean is that he doesn't miss anyone more than he misses her.
@@LinusVinnportlaced he genuinely cares about his own feelings and thats way he placed them above hers. I can't stand when people do selfish shit and act like its "caring". Caring and obsession are not the same
@@transient442 welll said.
He is a malignant grandiose narcissist.
him still denying is the biggest disrespect to her family
Whatever doctor charged him $13k for his new face, owes him a refund
lol or maybe you should see his face before the surgery
Refund in jail-Insurance claim,FRAUD
Lol!
Yeah I can’t tell at allllll
Haha
Imagine surviving war and just to be killed in her own country!
She was not on the front lines
Such is the irony of life.
And paying your killer’s half of the rent right before the end.
GAH DAMNNNN AMERICA AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!!!
@COUNTRYBOI and suffering from ptsd from it too!
They always have to talk to the news. It’s like their signature move. Being on camera playing the part of the grieving friend/ fam member. It’s a spectacle but a very telling one.
This is a very sad and tragic death of a woman who was not only a war vet, but a good person who unfortunately befriended a man who was obsessed with her. That being said, Mike's humor is the reason this is my favorite channel. Best crime youtuber!!
That and the fact he doesn't just sit there and talk to the camera the whole time... Lots of my flavor of humor and lots of supplemental visuals/clips for my short attention span! The BEST. 😆
@Jumpcut Jimmy Dude you don't know anything.
@Jumpcut Jimmy I don't have friends. I do, however, know that men have preferences. They aren't attracted to literally every girl. Think of it. Most men do not like old women. They could be friends with one, could they not? Likewise adult men do not like children (or at least they shouldn't). They also do not like their family members. Some men prefer certain races, height, body type, weight, appearance, personality, etc... Basically what I am trying to say is attraction doesn't work the way you think it does.
Men can be perfectly respectable people. They aren't all rabid predators who abuse women for their own benefit like you are implying.
@Jumpcut Jimmy dna is always found on suspects, ALWYS
It really annoys me when K.C says he loved her more than anyone, especially when her family were sitting there.
He's a despicable person. Denies what he did, gives bs excuses, WORE HIS VICTIM'S DOGTAGS, he's just the most selfísh person ever. Claims he loved the woman he kiIIed more than her own family, _while in their presence _ Absolute scumbag.
@@heartlights the famous timestamp you love
Tony Ortega loves and sticks up for disgusting murderers
This is A case I've never heard of. Heart goes out to the victims family🙏
I was there with Lucy, Maribels sister, during the time Maribel went missing. I went with Lucy to Maribels apartment to obtain some of her property and I met her neighbor KC. He seemed calm and complying with letting Lucy search in the apartment while I was outside talking to him. But knowing that he was convicted of the killing; was horrible!
Thanks for the video and this helps to keep her memory alive 🙏
God bless. John 3:16
RIP to the beautiful Maribel.
Thank you for the loving comment, i wish my aunt was still here 😞
They searched HIS apartment and found "no DNA, no finger prints"? That's weird.
not like they didn't find his fingerprints all over the place, but they didn't find abnormal prints or DNA out of place. Like they didn't find any of her blood on his carpet in his bedroom, or they didn't find her fingerprints on his nightstand. They didn't find his semen on her bed etc. Anytime cops do fingerprint searches they literally have to go through 100s up to 1000s of prints in a scene and they get a feel for what's normal and what's out of place. She likely never ever went in his room, so if they found 1 single print of hers like on the edge of a nightstand or the side of his bed, that would seem out of place because it's not a normal place to find it. If they found 1 of her hairs stuck in the side of his bedframe, that'd be out of place. But of all the fingerprinting they did, it all was within normal standards.
they were looking for HER DNA smartass
The way he said it.. Makes me think he cleaned it up.
@@BalboaBaggins She lived there too ding dong-they were roomies duh
@@BalboaBaggins stop trolling
I miss hearing Mike say " I hear ya barking big dog"
Me too!!!!! One of my favorite Mikeisms!!!!!
he has the best catch phrases.
Same
Don't worry, he'll say it next time. He really needs to sell merch with his catch phrases on it. I would buy it.
That was a STRONG “give it a GOOOOOO”-
I’m late to the party but damn I love Mike.
This is the most blatant and public example of deflection and a guilty conscience I have personally seen
Was looking for this comment
He must've done it while she was sleeping cuz we all know he wouldn't stand a chance against her straight up
where/how did he do it tho?
there was no DNA or other trace evidence, the only way they caught him was because the police got lucky he was searching the location...
why won't he stand a chance against her? she's a slim girl and he is a dude. He can knock her out cold with a punch
She was a war veteran not a skinny girl I think you under estimate what she was capable of the only skinny girl was that skinny old asian that killed her
@@joshbrz8902 women are no match against men. Doesn't mean they aren't fearless or tough or warriors. Just no competition against men even individually. Serena Williams would lose a match against a high school male tennis player.
@@joshbrz8902 was she in combat? You think just because she was in the military she was a warrior? I'm sure she was tough and brave but she was no match for this aggressive killer. With all due respect to the victim of course.
Few things more dangerous than a person with no chance falling in love with you without reciprocation. Leave and don't say you're leaving. If the person doesn't kill you, the awkwardness will.
That's excellent advice, and "If the person doesn't kill you, the awkwardness will" made me laugh out loud.
I love this comment. Great advice; wish Maribel could have known this and got away before it was too late.
So anybody you don't feel the same way about is automatically dangerous... very sane and definitely not unstable advice
@@stackflow343 Yeah you're right dude they should just stay in that position and do nothing to help themselves because although at best it will be awkward as hell the chances of them hurting you are less than 100%. Kinda weird you got defensive about that by the way.
@@johns1625 don't project on me. And I didn't say literally anything about that. This is about your view
Him reading the yelp exactly how KC wrote it; that sent me over the edge 😄😆😆 i should not even be laughing man
Have you ever noticed the perps always say "I just want them back."
Chris Watts news interview
@@heartlights are you somehow related to the perpetrator? you seem to be the only person doing a whole lot of defending
@@heartlights why don't you post that arbitrary time stamp some more? it seems to be helping so much! lul
Part of that is, they want the attention on how they are suffering more than anyone else. Pity me don’t focus on my crime.
I suppose it's natural to say you miss them but people like KC belabour the point. Classic overcompensation move
Mike is the only reliable thing about 2020 and I’m here for it. ❤️
Well we also have Dr Grande.
Facts.
@@PanicattheDiscourse ❤️him! He’s great 👍🏻
@@laurielynne2006 he just uploaded too!
He's an odd guy for her to be roommates with in the first place.
Wo needs a roommate in the first place?
@@honkytonk4465 plenty of folks. Living costs are high these days.
@@Meodread also some people want the company
@@honkytonk4465 everyone in California needs a roommate 😅
He probably gave off a harmless vibe.
I’m so sorry for your loss. This is extremely tragic. Maribel is a beautiful warrior and her memory needs to be kept alive. We’ve all been young and have played around. But she was also serving our country. Please respect her and her family. Don’t leave rude or negative comments. You know that saying “Don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything at all”!
Ummm, she didn't come home last night but her car, purse, and phone did? Friendzone boy guilty.
@SGTSnakeUSMC 100% agree with you, Shipmate.
@@1986-e3s this is a creepy fuckin comment
@@heartlights It incriminates him since she did make it home (vid footage paying rent), and he lied about it.
I know, right!!??!!! What an idiot. Get rid of evidence. Crime 101.
Whatta fool
@@SGTSnakeUSMC i meant the "friendzone" part lol
I had an obsessed flat mate when I was 19, I am 60 now, he was in his 30's which was an old man to me then.
After several months I noticed his mood starting to change when my boyfriend visited, my gut instinct kicked in, so I broke the news to him I was moving out & in with my boyfriend, his face flushed and he started trembling.
I asked him how we would split the furnishings we went halves in, he said "you get what you paid for, half" he then got a knife and started cutting the kitchen linoleum in half, it really scared me so I took off & went back another time when his car wasn't there to get my stuff with a group of friends as protection.
The place was a mess, he had cut everything in half!! We grabbed my bedroom stuff as fast as we could & left the mess for him to deal with.
My advice, don't get too friendly with a room mate you don't know that well.
RIP to Maribel, very sad but interesting story.
Damn, sounds like you weren't far off from becoming a murder victim yourself.
horsepanther - I was scared but only after watching this have I counted my lucky stars. Yes, I think looking back I was in a pretty dangerous situation, young & too trusting, I always say "trust your gut" I think it is vital we do.
I'm glad youre escaped that situation and are okay thats ridiculous.
shotgunn9 - thank you, yes I am glad too. I had another flash back the other day, I am sure this was my first warning. His name was Pete, he was a lorry driver & part time taxi driver. He gave my girlfriend (also 19) and me a lift to the train station as we were going to the airport to fly out to Spain for 2 weeks. When saying thank you & goodbye, he leaned forward and gave me a peck on the cheek & told us to have a great time, as he was walking away he was laughing & giggling to himself & looking back at me & was heavily limping, I was totally baffled & didn't get his "joke." I felt sick when my friend said because he kissed me on the cheek he was simulating an erection down his trouser leg. OMG, I was so innocent back then!
@@trishlett40 I don't think it's thanking your lucky stars, I think it was trusting your gut instinct. You must have had signs hinting up to the point you told him you were planning on moving out. I think people often don't trust and/or listen to their gut instinct. If you think something is wrong, most likely something IS wrong. Get out, don't hesitate, hesitating can lead to regret. Once I was at Target, I let my older son go off to look at the toys (he was like 11). Took my daughter with me, got the cart seat on, buckled her in, and then all of a sudden the fire alarms start going off. I get a panicking feeling and since I was at the front I asked the security guard if this was legit or an accidental set of. He said nope, leave your cart and get out. I informed him that we would, but I had to get my son in the toy section then leave. So I run back and find him. There were people IGNORING the fire alarm, they continued to shop. My son was like, but what about all these people. I said and insisted we leave now. While we were walking out, I see the Target employees starting to leave the building, they proceed fast across the parking lot. While leaving there are people who were peering into the store, clearly can hear the alarms, they would not leave the store front. I rushed to my car, got the kids secured and booked it out. Most people choose to ignore or write off those feeling of threats or warnings. Yes, use scientific evidence as well, like a fire alarm is scientific, it's warning us to leave, but the amount of people who chose to stay and shop was astonishing. I'm glad you were ok and got out when you should have. It sounds like he was mentally ill and could have ended different
I mean he had $12,000 worth of plastic surgery, to think all of this could've been avoided if he just sold some of that so he could pay rent. smh.
Sold some of what?
How can you sell back your plastic surgery?
@@SnarkierThan-U-R Some of his surgery, he wouldn't even need to sell all of it to afford rent for a while
@@cappew22 I wanna know what is salvageable I mean I've heard of recycling an' dat but goo from the face, didn't know it could be shared
@@cappew22 you can’t sell surgeries you’ve had
I do love that Mike has embraced his "goos" and "turds". Keep 'em coming my good man.
It sounds incredibly stupid that he searched for the exact location where he dumped the body, and of course it kinda is, but he had a reason for it. He knew about a Facebook group that had planned a search party in the area, so he checked out the route they might take.
Good. If it wasn't for that idk if they would've been able to convict him since there wasn't any evidence
I thought it was just him "returning to the scene of the crime" but in a distant sort of way?
He is chemist so he would have cleaned it real well
She makes it home from war after seeing horrific things I assume, only to be murdered by her creepy older roommate 😔 so sad
Terrible. Just so sad.
What a crap way to go out...
@@heartlights ???
seeing horrific things? iraq was peaceful before the US. if anyone has seen horrrific things, it s the innocent iraqis done by the US army!
@@Loulydollx3 you know, its almost like multiple people can see horrible shit funny how tht works
Man the fact that you can do all this research, make the video, and still sleep at night is beyond impressive 👏
Go Pats!!
Minus the stupid, lame, inappropriate "jokes"...
Right! The fact you support the patriots is also impressive..
Did h forget forensic investigators
not hard.
I remember watching that whole Yelp spectacle unfold in real time back in 2013. It was discussed on one of the true crime subreddits. We were all super creeped out by KC and convinced of his guilt.
Wow, that's ceazy
"isn't it rotten luck when the person who would die for you kills you"
Norm macdonald
Classic. Hes got so many good bits on O.J. from weekend update.
extreme love could turn into extreme hate lol
"Apparently, murder is legal in the State of California" -Norm Macdonald
If anyone hasn’t seen it, watch Norm’s whole bit he does about missing persons, and how he’d kidnap & kill someone. You can find it on TH-cam, and the entire thing, around 15-20 minutes, is pure gold.
OJ SIMPSON!
The type of "love" that kc had for her is not real love, of course. It's called "limerance" or unrequited infatuation and has been the cause of many crimes of passion - which this appeared to be. The worst part is that Maribel had a feeling he might do something; thus her 911 call.
Yeah , she should've went with her 6th sense and left that apartment , move in with family or friend ..
Sad case .
Thanks for a new word. Limerence
It was more of an obsession at this point
How come it was never mentioned that they were actually dating and not just roommates. Even the sister was lying in the Netflix documentary saying that “Maribel wasn’t interested” there are pics of them kissing and going out on date nights, beach, etc. They were obviously sleeping with each other.
Her 911 call was even planned. She was saying “if anything happens to him, just know that it is self Defense” Doesnt sound like the tone someone would use if they are really scared of getting killed. Sounds more like She was planning on killing him and wanting to give the police a reasoning. It could be to get his life insurance. Maybe she got bored of the relationship, or she didn’t want him anymore and didn’t know how to get rid of him as obviously he still wants her. So she planned to kill him and wanted to make it look like self Defense (hence the 911 call which was made would prove her innocence). He could have found out about it and wanted to defend himself. Or maybe he found out about a different lover and didn’t take it well. It makes ZERO sense that she was fearing for her life for 2 straight weeks but at the same time she would stay in that place with the “roommate” (even though she had many family members and friends in that area, where she could’ve spent these days with them until he leaves by the end of month as she was claiming) She was probably the one that asked him to put his life insurance under her name, just like she asked him to get the tattoo, plastic surgery to look younger, etc…). I have a Strong feeling that she is not the victim that Netflix portrays her to be.
@@Lightyagami-qw3bh where did you find the pictures of them going on dates and kissing? I watched the Netflix doc too but I don't remember seeing those
Yeah..... Being skeptical about the roommate acting super sketchy is not the same thing as a "witch hunt"
this is why i will NEVER have roommates again.
Fifteen years is hardly a sentence. He willfully tried to cover his crime and should have been given at least a life sentence.
15 years is just the earliest he can get parole. I don't agree with the sentence but I understand it since he was convicted on circumstancial evidence. With that being said, he will never get out even after 15 years as long as he professes his innocence. So he most likely will be in there for life..
OR, the person running the yard will "fix" him!!!
@@MDCxThePG Even having the chance to get out in 15 years at the earliest is too early.
@Jumpcut Jimmy To be honest our Canadian parole board release pretty much everyone at their first hearing, just to give you one exemple we just saw a drunk driver who killed a family of three (or four since the wife was pregnant) released already this week after serving not even four years of a 14 years sentence. As bad as the US system could be ours isn't better...
Isn't he eligible for parole after 7.5 years, because of good behavior 50% of the time gets cut in California?
he really was "the turd of May"
Best comment lmaoo
Researcher "I've found one about an Army girl murdered in Orange county with a loser roommate"
Mike "Doesn't sound that interesting"
Researcher "she disappeared on the Third"
Mike "set the camera up"
Mike's favorite number's are 3, and anything with 3 in it.
🤣🤣🤣
The love of the Irish accent runneth over. 💚💚💚☘☘☘
Turd
@@heartlights why do you keep putting that time stamp
His lawyer looks so uncomfortable. He knows he should apologize. Sicko
Grant is like that brother who always has to have the last word but doesn't know when it's appropriate
Very accurate
😅
Always shouting the final "amen" after dinner grace
haha you're right! like,, stfu grant, no one asked
Grant is smart, people....he knew
Crazy good move watching the computer. I feel like they would have never found out the truth if that wasn't the case
Certainly they would never have been able to find her body. Thankfully he was incredibly stupid, zeroing in online on the location where he dumped her, for no purpose I can think of except to show investigators where to look.
‘On a tread on Yelp’ I love this channel
It’s really sad knowing that just being a good person with a big heart and trying to befriend and help and support someone of the opposite sex can make them become obsessed and feel like they are entitled to you somehow, and when they don’t get what they want out of the “friendship”, they can go to extreme lengths like this. RIP Maribel, and thank you for your service to the U.S. during one of the most tragic times this country has faced
I don't care if this makes me sexist, i would never in a million years have a male roommate. Not worth the risk of assault, murder, etc. not that I'm blaming her at all. She seemed like a wonderful person
PSA: Dear ladies. Do not live with someone who wants to be with you when you don't reciprocate. I know emotions and friendships and financial struggles. But no. No.
Guys too. Worse is when they cockblock you in turn or just ruin any relationship you may pursue...trust me I would know.
And people make fun of homeless people or van lifers.
THIS IS WHY. Domestic issues pushing people to be independent
I just left a situation like that. It was so toxic I just couldn't do it anymore. "Friend" turned super creep.
i don't understand why she took in male roommate. normally, women feel safer with female roommate.
@@whatever5575 unfortunately for her the man looked harmless.. An immigrant just like her. Poor girl
If he never would’ve googled that location he would’ve got away with it. Terrible human being.
I wonder why he googled the place after he already found it and used it. Enjoying how clever was, missing her? It’s he did it though.
@@addie_is_me I think he was trying to see if he could see her body from street view/google earth, who knows though I can’t remember what tech was around back then.
@@emiach that's a smart observation! It was a shallow grave in what looked like a remote area where wind, wildlife, etc. may have unburied her. So tragic. He should have been smarter though. If I'm going somewhere every day and I'm a suspect, I would presume eventually police would spy on the computer I'm using
@@emiach oh, that’s a good idea. Making sure the site the place was hard to see. I just looked up Yahoo maps and got a message there is no info about that and google maps is 2005.
@@emiach Those Satellite images aren't real time, they never have been.
The cultural and language differences alone make this guy seem creepy, but creepy is not guilty. In person, I can say I love your car, I love your dog, or I love your wife, and you wouldn't question it, because you can see how it was meant. But doing it in a foreign language, it may very well come out creepy as hell. Having had a Laotian Girlfriend, I can say, we often said things to each other that were misconstrued as insulting, or downright hilarious.
As far as him being tracked remotely doing a google search, and claiming the search was done remotely and happened by itself, how hard is that to imagine? I think we have all seen cases where Police get tunnel vision, and make damn sure the person they suspect either confesses, or is found guilty.
Based solely on the evidence in this video, I would have a real problem finding him guilty.
Yikes, this guy was a total psychopath and completely obsessed with his roommate. How sad this whole situation, my heart goes out to Maribels family.
love your channel. You’re a really good story teller! Hope you do this for many years!!!!!
I love Grant's final words, like he knows it's a lot bigger than him and not about him at all, but he just had to win that internet argument, human nature.
Glad he did. Hope that internet Karen who jumped his shit with her condescending attitude felt stupid after
@@Wyatt_Riley They we’re both being petty and stupid.
@@Wyatt_Riley to be fair, they probably didnt want fingers to be immediately pointed at someone (who, at the time, nobody knew who did it), although I can agree that sometimes, using past tense is a dead giveaway
Grant is also a suspicious character too…
RIPMarible. She was so pretty. Thanks for the video. Ever notice the guilty one is bla bla bla and sticks his foot in his mouth. Have a good weekend be safe with this stupid virus.
Now, let's be honest. I'm going to say what I know we are thinking. If KC got $12k worth of plastic surgery, where in the world did the money go?
You should have seen him before.
He should've used that to pay his rent
Either he’s got a big ole cosmetic lap hog, or he embezzled that dough. Buddy looks old AF
you know what they say about asians.. maybe he got an enhancement of the male variety to impress her. when it didn't work he lost it.
@@damagecontrol7 that's.... not an excellent joke
You’re very good at representing these cases! I do enjoy them, thank you! I mean it’s sad what happened in every one of them but... it’s also good to see that people do get some justice for their loss.
Hello "didn't-get-notification-but-coincidentally-saw-the-video-right-after-it-went-online" Gang.
Yeah. Getting really annoying
@@spoodlydoodler3552 Guess I'll have to do it again.
I did t get notification either
Same here.
Me too!!