The CRAZIEST DRAFT REACH in Philadelphia Eagles HISTORY

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  • @tookmyjob
    @tookmyjob 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    We always called him Tony Toney.

    • @felixleiter5092
      @felixleiter5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tommy two tone

    • @Phateagle262
      @Phateagle262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One more Tone and the Eagles would have had enough to sing Anniversary

    • @tookmyjob
      @tookmyjob 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Phateagle262 lol

    • @igorslocks
      @igorslocks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Phateagle262 👍

    • @Walczyk
      @Walczyk ปีที่แล้ว

      What an awful name

  • @classicrockbeagle
    @classicrockbeagle 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The right way of going about this: Chuck Noll in 1974. He viewed John Stallworth as a first round talent when he wasn't on anybody else's radar. He kept quiet and even picked Lynn Swann in Rd 1 as a smoke screen. When he took Stallworth in Rd 4, it caught everyone by surprise. That's how you do it, Buddy

  • @JAWrightonline
    @JAWrightonline 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anthony Toney was a good player. As a fullback, he blocked, ran hard, and was a good pass catcher. He also showed enough speed to bounce the run outside occasionally. He was not a mistake. He was an underrated player in Buddy Ryan's rebuilding the Eagles into a playoff team.
    One scouting report on Anthony Toney that I'll always remember: "Anthony Toney is as tough an individual as you will find on the Eagles' roster. And with Reggie White and Jerome Brown around, that's saying something."

  • @82dorrin
    @82dorrin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Toney actually turned out to be a decent player.

  • @lsmftymf
    @lsmftymf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Buddy Ryan also never bothered to learn how to pronounce Junior Tautalatasi's surname. Just called him Junior Smith. He seemingly had the Eagles immediately pick up anyone and everyone released by his mortal enemy Mike Ditka. That's how John Teltschik became the Eagles' punter.

  • @Coyotek4
    @Coyotek4 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You can mine an awful lot of videos just on Eagles drafts.
    How about 2019, when they used a 1st-round pick on an offensive tackle, Andre Dillard. He's now considered something of a bust, yet their LT position is solid. Why? Because one season earlier, they used a 7th-round on a former rugby player, Jordan Mailata ... and today he's considered pretty darn good.

    • @kevinfrain7901
      @kevinfrain7901 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or passing on Justin Jefferson to take jalen reagor

    • @ReveiwKing999
      @ReveiwKing999 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or how about the year before they drafted Toney, when they drafted ANOTHER projected third-rounder as their first pick in "Jailbird" Kevin Allen who, in the words of Ryan, was a good player to have around "if you want someone to stand around and kill the grass." And the worst part is, Ryan drafted this guy thinking he'd have his left tackle for the next decade only for him to last only one season before he got busted for coke and sexual assault.

    • @dshiznit12a
      @dshiznit12a 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kevinfrain7901 or jjaw over dk

    • @mrstark1376
      @mrstark1376 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or the player who only tested for the combine in 95, Mike Mamula.

    • @southbeachtalent
      @southbeachtalent ปีที่แล้ว

      @ Mr. Stark Looking back Mamula was not terrible, it's just that they passed on Warren Sapp.

  • @jbratt
    @jbratt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The QB in the Aggie highlights was Kyler Murray’s dad.

  • @stephenrabe7024
    @stephenrabe7024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm not sure if this is actually the "biggest reach"... I vividly remember recently in 2018 the NY Jets drafted Nathan Shepherd from Fort Hays St. In the 3rd Round at pick #72. When selected ESPN went to commercial to buy time to find footage and when Mel Kiper Jr. Was asked for his evaluation of this player he said "Who?" Like he hadn't heard of who the Jets drafted. It turns out that Nathan Shepherd wasn't even in Mel Kiper's top 150 players and wasn't projected in his mock to go until near the end of the 7th round. Nathan Shepherd has only played 9 games and only started 1 of them. That might be a bigger reach.

    • @adawg1125
      @adawg1125 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      this is a video about the eagles biggest reach not the biggest reach tho

    • @alexandernwalie1270
      @alexandernwalie1270 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did some research, Shepard was invited to the senior bowl and actually rose his stock by allot. And on some websites had him going as high as the 2nd round because he was that good at the senior bowl. So he was picked where he was expected. Though I agree he has been pretty underwhelming not doing much for the jets at all.

  • @TheAlfrulz
    @TheAlfrulz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mike Mamula was just as big of a reach. The DE was originally projected as a second day mid round pick. But one legendary workout at the 1995 combine made Philadelphia trade up to select him #7 overall in the draft.
    His career wound up being solid, but not spectacular. Something befitting a second day mid round pick.

  • @yoshifan331
    @yoshifan331 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A different A. Toney worked out pretty well for another Philadelphia pro sports team in the 80s, so...

    • @stevenmiller7747
      @stevenmiller7747 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So…….what?

    • @yoshifan331
      @yoshifan331 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenmiller7747 Is there anything I really need to explain? I was just pointing out a coincidence and making a bit of a joke about why the Eagles had interest in him.

  • @LostLakeTribune
    @LostLakeTribune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sounds like the Bears with Mitch Trubisky!

  • @cardphins68
    @cardphins68 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well, he certainly didn't remind Philly fans of Andrew Toney who balled for the 76ers! Too bad Andrew got hurt because that fellow could play! You had to respect a guy who was nicknamed "The Boston Strangler"!

    • @urbanleftbehind
      @urbanleftbehind 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reminds me of the bad ol' NBA on CBS days when they only seemed to show Sixer, Celtics or Lakers games

  • @mitchellvang2691
    @mitchellvang2691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JaMarcus Russell went 7 rounds to early

  • @thatsmrtguy4935
    @thatsmrtguy4935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a way a strategy like this could work. It would be tough and convoluted but it’s possible.
    Let’s suppose you have the 8th pick and you want a running back. The 7th pick also wants a running back and you’re afraid they’ll take your guy. The 9th pick wants a defensive end. You could say you wanted the defensive end, resulting in them trading up to get him while you get the running back.

  • @mrmoose6619
    @mrmoose6619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    5:44 OH NO!

  • @grinningchicken
    @grinningchicken 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Buddy refused the Redskins model of creating offense by drafting OL and power football and then complementing it with skill players.
    He just drafted the skill position he wanted improved but the fact that he had no OL meant no matter what QB or WR RB or TE he had nothing was going to happen.
    This was while playing LT and Carl Banks with the Giants 2x a year Jim Jeffcoat and the cowboys 2x Manley and Mann 2x with the Redskins and even the lowly Cardinals had Freddy Joe Nunn and Ken Harvey

  • @teresapflaumer5717
    @teresapflaumer5717 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You think Anthony Toney was a reach...Kevin Allen Tackle from Indiana in the '85 draft was a MONSTEROUS REACH!!! Picks like that and Michael Haddix kept the Eagles stinking under the Gang Green defense dominated. Marion Campbell was a BAAAAAD HC!

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And how many points did the Eagles score in those games? 12, 7, and 6 in the three playoff games in the Ryan era. That's not on the D, which was the point.

    • @richardadams4928
      @richardadams4928 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Marion Campbell was a SPECTACULARLY bad head coach. As a Falcons fan, I FEEL your pain.
      But I feel it TWICE....

    • @dibslin2.081
      @dibslin2.081 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plus Kevin Allen really liked rapin'!

  • @MrTim2031
    @MrTim2031 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    No, just no. I’ve been following the Eagles since about 1990 and feverishly since 1995. There are soooo many more bad reaches than this guy. Mike Mamula, who wasn’t as bad as he was made out to be, but not worth taking over Warren Sapp. Danny Watkins, who everyone could see not working out from a mile away. But my vote for biggest eagles reach of all time is Jon Harris. Taken at #27 in 1997, he only played 8 total games and was considered a reach for a third round pick. It actually a similar situation as the one in the vid, Ray Rhodes didn’t care about what others though about him. Also, it may also relate to your point about teams trying to bait other teams into taking a player too high. Rhodes thought Green Bay would take him a couple of picks later.

  • @michaelwebb4135
    @michaelwebb4135 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems to be a problem with Aggie backs wearing green and white in the pros. Roger Vick bombed with the Jets and Anthony Toney did a fair impression of him with the Eagles.

  • @otrwp79
    @otrwp79 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    4:09 - Jeff Fisher

    • @Ynkno
      @Ynkno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn’t that buddy

    • @otrwp79
      @otrwp79 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ynkno The younger guy beside him.

    • @TheRealfan1
      @TheRealfan1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Jeff Fisher was DBs coach.

  • @bennylevine387
    @bennylevine387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    In a weird way, it's like the Eagles were right, being that his overall production was more in keeping with a #37 overall pick than a fourth rounder, which was apparently everyone else's projection. Interesting video. I had totally forgotten about this dude.

    • @bennylevine387
      @bennylevine387 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewdaley746 I guess from a bottom line sense, one Bowl win seems a little thin, until you reflect that he was trying to take a McMahon/Tomczak-led team against some of the best teams from the era, including high-water Niners, Giants, and Redskins teams. And while the Toney pick alone does nothing to characterize Ryan's draft acumen one way or the other and you can call it a broken clock being right twice a day, he did kind of have this one right.

  • @tr5947
    @tr5947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Something kind of funky is going on with your voiceover. I don't know if you're using a gate, a compressor, or a de-esser (which is just a compressor for sibilants), but your settings need a little tweaking to smooth the release out.

  • @anthonyblengino4927
    @anthonyblengino4927 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is such an odd topic for a deep dive. Anthony Toney was a perfectly adequate second round pick in retrospect. You could pick out 10 worse picks in that round every year. The media picked on Buddy Ryan because he didn’t kiss their ass. And he was a great drafter (though much more so on the defensive side of the ball) turning the Eagles into a playoff team quickly. How about a deep dive on how he built the Bears/Eagles’ defenses, not to mention assisting the Jets/Vikings’ Super Bowl defenses?

  • @davidstephens5603
    @davidstephens5603 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom Rathman was available and they took Toney. WTF?!

  • @thomascrowley9122
    @thomascrowley9122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jeff Fisher sighting 4:18

  • @manuginobilisbaldspot424
    @manuginobilisbaldspot424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still wasn't worse than Michael Haddix.
    EDIT: ANNNNNND you reference him. That 3.0 ypc average is still the worst in NFL history for the amount of carries.

  • @felixleiter5092
    @felixleiter5092 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My friend who got winger tickets

  • @mrmajikjr
    @mrmajikjr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This sounds like some attempt at 4-D chess. They knew they didn't want him in the first round but still liked him as a 2nd or 3rd round player. They made people think they wanted to use a top 10 pick on him and then got Keith Byers instead. Then they probably decided they didn't want to wait until round 3 to actually get him because other targets were taken by the 37th pick.

  • @wishlish
    @wishlish 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's weird about this draft is, in the 9th and 10th rounds, the Eagles drafted two of the best players in the entire draft, Seth Joyner and Clyde Simmons.

  • @ericpenner6375
    @ericpenner6375 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hearing Mike Quick was not The Eagles intended target, and fall back after being leaped frog, initially shocked me but makes perfect sense. That could be The best draft fail in Eagles history.

    • @msarzo
      @msarzo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Mike Quick story is a really great bookend to this one. The Eagles didn't get the player they wanted in that case, but the one they got was a legend.
      Quick gave me cold sweats when he faced Washington during his heyday. Toney? Not quite as much.
      That pick was probably the equivalent of a passer rating in the upper 60s whereas the Quick selection was probably in the upper 90s or low 100s.

    • @ronaldwayne7092
      @ronaldwayne7092 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Especially since Perry Tuttle had 25 receptions in four years in the NFL. He then went to Winnipeg and had six successful seasons there.

  • @marcus813
    @marcus813 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toney wasn't the biggest bust in the football world, but there were better fullbacks in that draft class.

  • @chadwickwhite6107
    @chadwickwhite6107 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LIVE NFL TRIVIA EVERY WEDNESDAY NIGHT on TWITCH!!!!! Test YOUR football KNOWLEDGE and win CASH PRIZES!!!!!! Anthony Toney was MEDIOCRE at BEST. He was ALWAYS BELOW a 39.6. Randall Cunningham and the Philadelphia Eagles would have been BETTER OFF just SPIKING Anthony Toney's HEAD into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!

  • @dangeiger9796
    @dangeiger9796 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tom Rathman was available

  • @jasvic
    @jasvic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jon Harris saw this title and laughed.

    • @MarkBBlue
      @MarkBBlue 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He was the worst along with Watkins.

    • @MrTim2031
      @MrTim2031 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I came here to post that

  • @Hogtownboy1
    @Hogtownboy1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

  • @HipsterShiningArmor
    @HipsterShiningArmor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my conspiracy theory is that the Eagles only wanted Anthony Toney because his name kinda sounds like Andrew Toney, who was at the time a big star with the 76ers

  • @adampomietlarz1518
    @adampomietlarz1518 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do the Bills reaching on either J.P Losman or John McCargo.

  • @rel8edgamerz445
    @rel8edgamerz445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The eagles has done this countless Times it’s not Ryan fault it’s something about this team

  • @84sp84
    @84sp84 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can’t fathom mentioning Haddix to dump on Toney in this video. While admittedly Toney wasn’t a great 2nd round pick, Haddix was number 8 overall!!!! Toney at least was a serviceable RB, Haddix was nearly worthless. I absolutely don’t get the logic of this story.

  • @jabbahursty
    @jabbahursty 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    doesn't sound like a bust at all from here

  • @TheSonicsean
    @TheSonicsean 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:30. Hey who's that number 99 guy? He looks pretty good.
    Also comparing Haddox to a guy who has a very legitimate claim to the best running back of all time is rubbing salt in the wound

  • @TomG1555
    @TomG1555 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It seemed pretty clear after the draft that most of the Toney talk was both (a) a smokescreen, b/c they ended up taking Byars in the 1st instead, and (b) honest, b/c they took Toney anyway in the 2nd, so obviously they did like him a lot.
    One sidenote that isn't mentioned: the Eagles had a 1,000 yard rusher already on the roster in Earnest Jackson, so making RB their top priority seemed odd at the time, given the bad shape so many other areas on the team were in...but Buddy had definite opinions, and if you weren't one of his guys (like Pro Bowl S Wes Hopkins wasn't, either), the odds of changing his mind were small. Haddix never lived up to his 1st round hype, but had had 43 receptions the previous season and actually survived three more seasons as a parttime FB starter for Buddy.

  • @kennydeth
    @kennydeth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Compared to some of their other moves (cough, cough Markus Smith) a B-Minus pick is a good pick for my birds! Haha

  • @J_i_z_z_y
    @J_i_z_z_y 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That band story sounded way too personal... so what band was it your friend was bragging about having tickets too?

  • @denisceballos9745
    @denisceballos9745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Buddy Ryan’s former team, the Chicago Bears got the best RB in that ‘86 draft with Neal Anderson (35). IMO, Dalton Hilliard (40) was also an outstanding RB selected by N.O. that year. But Philly didn’t do too badly by picking Keith Byars (41) at #10.

    • @jpmnky
      @jpmnky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He was very good, Neal Anderson. Yet another forgotten legend. His career was doomed from injury. And like others have said, he wasn’t Walter Payton.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neal Anderson, subject of Bill Walsh's greatest moment on NBC during Seahawks/Bears in week one '90:
      I CERTAINLY ADMIRE HIS RUNNING DICK
      Remember kids, punctuation isn't just for writing

    • @BillMorganChannel
      @BillMorganChannel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think Bo Jackson was better than Neal Anderson, but Neal was great and was on two of my fantasy football teams!

    • @bobbywrong8112
      @bobbywrong8112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take Tom Rachmaninov out of the niners offense surrounded by all those HOFers and would would you have? Compare that to running behind the eagles offensive line which was terrible. The idiot who made this post obliviously is gossiping and it speaking facts. How was this a reach let alone a bad reach in comparison to eagles draft picks before and after. Do better dummy

  • @walker1984
    @walker1984 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't my Raiders picking Damon Arnette be more of a reach? What was Gruden thinking?

  • @karlcooper7016
    @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He had competitive football speed not track speed there's a difference he could hit the hole quickly as you can very well see.

  • @okolo22000
    @okolo22000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:13 Didn’t waste any time there did you?
    4:30 Nice 👍!

  • @karlcooper7016
    @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ultimate bridesmade.

  • @tcollier5460
    @tcollier5460 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Toney was awful, he always fumbled too! I also remember when they drafted Siran Stacy and Tony Brooks in the 92 draft....Uuugghh

  • @Rockhound6165
    @Rockhound6165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1986. I'd like to say that was the worst draft in Cardinals history but there are far better examples. But this is the year they took Anthony Bell at #5 then took kicker John Lee in the 2nd round. Lee was a great college kicker...in the days of kicking off a tee. Off the ground, not so much. He even missed 3 extra points that season. Fun Fact about Cardinals kickers. He couldn't make a kick over 40 yards.

  • @karlcooper7016
    @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toney Dorsett had fumbling issue also believe it or not and so did Wendle Tyler.

    • @karlcooper7016
      @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@matthewdaley746 Dorsett wasn't a 'problem fumbler' but when he did fumble he did it right on the other hand I think it (fumbling) was more of a problem for Wendl Tyler.

    • @mgb4692
      @mgb4692 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      OT, but a future JG vid should be Don Meredith's blooperific finale Super Bowl XIX, headlined by TYLER TYLER when it was Carl Monroe who scored on a TD pass from Montana (Tyler didn't score in the game)

  • @karlcooper7016
    @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amp Lee was slow yet the vikings picked him.

    • @buhbuhjaychampagne1706
      @buhbuhjaychampagne1706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      San Francisco drafted Amp Lee.

    • @karlcooper7016
      @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buhbuhjaychampagne1706 they must have traded him to minnesota I never even saw him suit up for the Niners.

    • @buhbuhjaychampagne1706
      @buhbuhjaychampagne1706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlcooper7016 Amp was a 2nd round pick in 1992. He went to Minn in 1994. Where he played til 1996. The rams from 1997-1999. And finally the eagles in2000. He was with the lions in 2001 but didn’t make it out of the preseason.

    • @karlcooper7016
      @karlcooper7016 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@buhbuhjaychampagne1706 In other words he was a bust.

    • @buhbuhjaychampagne1706
      @buhbuhjaychampagne1706 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karlcooper7016 Pretty much. San Fran had Rickey Watters and didn’t really need him. He was a luxury pick and didn’t pan out anywhere he went.

  • @skull9674
    @skull9674 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not that much of a reach seems like he did what a typical second round pick does.

  • @bobbywrong8112
    @bobbywrong8112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You said all that bologna to say he was a B- draft pick? Which is it a reach or not. If you draft a player and say his career was B- how was it a reach? He was a fullback and yet you said he had no speed. His speed on film compared to other fullbacks is clear that he had speed. Come on man do better. To say no other team was going to draft him and there was other players they could have drafted is a half true statement. He worked out for the niners & they had planned to REACH and draft him which but the eagles did first. Keith Byars was a first round pick and considered a great pick by you but Toney was a 2nd round pick and considered a reach? Check and compare their stats and also pay attention to Toney was moved from FB to Halfback when byars was injured then back to FB. Do better and at least give us his 40 combine numbers instead of your opinion on his speed which is wrong.

  • @CTubeMan
    @CTubeMan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rams defense in the third round? Why would anyone do that? I mean, they don’t have anybody really that good. Too soon?
    Sounds like the Seahawks current drafting strategery.
    This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about another running back from that draft, Bo Jackson, and how the 49ers tried to acquire his rights from the Buccaneers.

  • @danhester4408
    @danhester4408 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In many ways, Buddy Ryan is kind of the epitome of the old school knuckle-draggers that I've always disliked about football..... But also, I kind of love Buddy Ryan. Such a unique and authentic dude.

  • @Porthos240
    @Porthos240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As human being, Buddy Ryan had no business ever seeing an NFL sidelines as an HC.