@@shubhamthakur8530Probably not many. Honda, with their huge volumes and economies of scale, can afford to carry low volume money pits (for race homologation, too). Triumph really can't. The "new" CBR600RR is still mostly the same motorcycle it was for over a decade. Its updates are mainly to meet emmisions standards. Same with the ZX-6R.
@@puravida012 jep it’s a great Allrounder I commute to work with it, chase some twisties in the Bavarian mountains or do some touring. I have put 20k km on it (~ 12,5k miles) in 2,5 seasons, I live in Bavaria so it’s only possible to ride 2/3 of the year🤙🏼
I debated long and hard, a used daytona 675 in my area cost about the same as the new 660. I ended buying a 2025 daytona 660 and I love it. Michigan roads are quite rough and it's comfortable enough to commute an hour to some fun roads and it's sporty enough to enjoy the curves.
I think a lot of the reason bikes seem nerfed is because they are, a motorcycle that revs high just can't meet emissions anymore. A couple milligrams of sulfur dioxide or nitrous oxide makes them fail, Even if it's a recreational machine that isn't used for the same appliance as a car the government especially in Europe is starting to use the bullwhip.
Brass tax: If you were expecting a reincarnated Daytona 675 and that's what you want, this bike is not for you. For the people that want a fun, affordable, fairly practical sporty road bike (and is also able to meet A2/Restricted license requirements) then it's a good option. So it will likely sell better than the D675 ever did.
Had mine for about a month now and as a first bike, I'm loving it. I was originally looking at the ninja 650 but the 95hp really was what sold me on this bike. Enough power that I won't get sick of it after a year but safe enough that I won't be scared of it. Exhaust could be better but overall, great bike in my opinion. Although I haven't tried a whole lot of bikes ahah
After having tried this, and as an owner of a Tiger Sport 660, I have to agree with Yammie on this. It's a fun bike for cheap money, but it's more like a "Trident Sport" than Daytona. They should've built it on the Street Triple 765 platform.
Problem is, when they built the supersport Daytona 675, they couldn't sell enough. People forget that the whole supersport market collapsed. Development costs were high (the factories used to revise the bikes every two years) and sales were low. Supersports were impractical and expensive to own. Insuring a new one was insanely expensive for people in their 20s. Emissions were becoming a problem and development of those bikes virtually stopped. Triumph will possibly build something like that if they think they can sell enough but they won't jump right in. They'll need a to see a real revival of the market. They're working on something spicy based on the Street Triple platform but it's not clear if it's going to be faired or not. But how many people who claim to want a new supersport Daytona will actually buy one? How many bought or even have ridden a Daytona 675--or even gotten within a 50 feet of one? My guess is not too many.
@@nigo1787 ok? and? Nobody said it was a daytona with less fairings. It's the same recipe used by almost every manufacturer to use an existing supersport platform to produce a street or naked version. Yes the engines have differences, but they're not crazy. Look up people swapping daytona cams into the striple if you don't believe me. The midrange doesn't change, the top end improves. Kinda obvious to expect that with the extra revs the daytona gets
12:28, your statement there is why I think that the Triumph Street Triple is the best all rounder. Naked bike but the chassis is the proper Daytona chassis, the engine wether it’s the 675 or 765, is much more there than the 660. Rear set position that is as near to the Daytona as you can, gearbox gearing of course isn’t the same but it’s what makes the Street so much more livable day to day as well 💁🏽♂️
After all the talk about this bike not being like the old Daytona. I had to go test ride one. and I had already test road a Trident months before. and I have to say that I was totally surprised with how much I loved this new Daytona 660. the engine has plenty of pep with a really nice stock sound, and the bike is nice and stable. and I also think the bike is really nice looking. even though it has allot of plastic. but one thing I didn't realize until I got back to the dealer on it and was talking to one of the guys who work there. is the frame on the side above the engine is a fake frame. it looks so much like a real Frame that I didn't even notice it until it was pointed out to me. it's just a piece of plastic that looks like a nice metal frame. and that kind of through me. I reached under it and its just a tubular frame. but other than that. I could be more than happy owning this bike. and I currently ride a Ducati 939 Supersport. ( I would love it if Triumph made the 765 Rs with a full fairing but without changing the ergonomics. just a more high end version of this new 660 with the same looks )
I'm not regretting my tiger 660, because it's going to be a better commuter with the (free!) panniers and better fuel mileage. Remove the panniers, it's got enough sport appearance for most.
Bought this bike last month and I'm on my second burn in (Dealer sold me one and accidently sent me home on another so they switched me to the correct one when I went in for the 600 mile service). I love the bike! I have a 30 min commute and live in the mountains and it is wonderful.
This is a good motorcycle. The single thing Triumph did wrong about this motorcycle is naming it a freaking 'Daytona'. If they didn't f**d up the naming and named it 'Trident RS' or something like that, this motorcycle then is a great product But I promise you, this motorcycle has nothing to do with a Daytona 675. Other than that, this is a good motor cycle.
Never had a Daytona but thanks for making me appreciate my 2016 Street Triple 675R even more today. It's a wonderful machine and that 675 engine howls like no other.
honestly the 660 engine is pretty close to the 675. Yes it doesn't "howl" quite as much but that's rules and regulations for you. The 765 doesn't really either Sometimes I wish my 675 didn't whistle and growl quite as much. Yes, I'm getting old
I have the 660 Tiger and I’m getting the same vibrations, I’ve put on grip puppies and evotech bar end weights which has helped immensely but it’s still there. Older bikes were the best and I’ve ridden since the 80’s .
when I test drove a brand new Daytona I thought it was pretty vibey, but after buying one and breaking it in, it feels much smoother than I remember the test drive on feeling (which had like 60 miles on it)
i think this bike makes much more sense for someone starting with motorcycling, especially here in europe where you have to start with the A2 licence which is restricted to 48 HP. you can easily restrict the daytona and after two years have a reasonable upjump to 95 HP and after a few years, if you really desire more, you can get something with more punch to it. but at least NOW you have experience at riding with close to 100 HP!
This was on my consideration list before buying a 8R. I thought the 660 was a great looking bike, liked the oddball 3 cylinder, and the Triumph name is a selling point on it's own. Thankfully for me, coming into bikes more as I near 40, I don't have the history with bikes more experienced riders do. I grew up knowing the Busa was god tier (still kind of is) and the GSXR 1000 was the street king. But now that times have changed and everyones stepped up their game in the top tier and lower tiers. I mean, I never thought the 300-500CC class would become so competitive growing up as well all looked at them as just learner bikes and disposable. In general I'm still in love with my 8R. Even though I think Suzuki nerfed the transmission gearing to sell more traditional Gixxers.
@@garboi8976 coming from 2 different sub 500cc bikes, I love it. I've only ridden for a few years so maybe not the expert opinion youre hoping for. But it's a great all around bike. Good torque, 3rd and 4th gear is really the sweet spot around 50mph+. Quick shifter at full throttle is amazing on ups (kinda sucks on the downs). I think it's a great mid-tier bike you can ride with out being to uncomfortable.
So right, the old 675 Daytona (and Street Triple) has that whistle+roar sound that is just so, so beautiful, as it revs-up and up and up for days in a gear.
I ride my W800 (47hp.) with a young guy who has a 675. When he drops a gear or two and passes me, it puts an ear bending smile on my face, every time. Man, that thing sounds awesome. And I'll give you a tip: It is not slow!
Just bought a Daytona 660, Carnival Red, 4 days ago. I don’t care what anyone says, I love this bike, and I made the right decision to go European this round. I no longer crave a 4 cylinder.
I really wanted to own a Daytona, but after watching this video, I've changed my mind, prime reason being the cheap quality being said! Also maybe the reason it's ntn like the 675 might be cause of the strict norms being placed all the time
I'm personally dreaming about a Triumph Daytona 765 RR based on the 2024 Street Triple 765 RS !!! I would order one immediately if they decide to create it !!! But as a competitor to the Honda CBR 650 R and the Suzuki GSX 8R, I would go for the Daytona 660 all day long if the Aprilia RS660 wouldn't exist !
I love how you made 2 reviews with you as a 675 fan and a "normal human being" review. And both of the review are quite accurate from each stand point. I'm not a 675 nut, but I agree with you that the bike should've been named something else. Trident R or RR seems quite the fit, I think. I own one BTW and it's been a joy to ride. Not that slow, but also not that hardcore fast. Just enough for me.
The same thing happened with the Yamahda R7. Some people believed that because 7 comes after 6 that they were getting a superior product, when in fact, they were receiving an mt-07 with fairings. Also, the more I look at it, the more the headlight and mid-fairing look similar to the 2012-2016 Fireblade.
@@Dexx1s Ok going back to my original question that I guess I need to explain. My guy said people were thinking the R7 had more power because 7 is a bigger number than 6. I understand that there are motorcycles like the cbr 600 and 650 in which the 600 is faster than the 650. We are comparing his statement with the R7 and R6 to the 675 and the 660 the 675cc is more powerful than the 660cc Daytona. Sorry if I lost y’all on that I abandon my question lol.
My 2016 me would probably have bought this thing. My deceased Ninja 650 was my daily back then, and I wanted pretty much the same in a slightly better manner. As there were no good non-R4 sports tourers out there, I chose a Street Triple 675 R with a big wind shield as a compromise. I am a sucker for wind protection, beautiful plastics, and torque! And yes, Triumph should have named this bike Sprint 660.
Haven't ridden a smaller CC bike since my Honda CB550F which was very fun to ride all day and used way less fuel than my 1100CC Yamaha. Thanks for this review I'm seriously considering getting a Triumph love the look of the bike and idea of having a 3 cylinder!
My first street bike was a 2001 Triumph TT 600, which became the Daytona. The frame, ram air, and engine made those bikes. I agree that calling this tube framed, detuned bike a Daytona is a terrible idea and gets rid of what made a Daytona or TT, a Daytona.
It’s 95HP on purpose to meet European/UK A2 license purposes. I have no doubt a few engine component changes would garnish an extra couple of thousand revs and provide more peak horsepower should Triumph wish it to. Encroaching on your 765 bikes in terms of HP would not be a great idea though. I think they got the engine dead right on this bike.
I agree this bike should've been named Sprint - the Sprint was a comfortable grand touring bike that looked like a sport bike, but was definitely not a supersport. There's nothing wrong with that - that's a great package to sell. But this is not a Daytona, and like Yam, I am a Daytona simp who misses my 675 that I had for many years and I don't think Triumph did themselves any favors diluting the the accomplishments the Daytona 675 had over the years by dropping the name on this new sport-ish touring bike that can never be as great as an actual Daytona. But I am also very pleased to see Triumph still developing and producing bikes in this current market, so I'll just have to sigh and hope the sales of this bike help strengthen their market presence.
I get your review as you arrived at the Triumph Daytona name at a specific model and time. The original Triumph Daytona is 490cc standard. I have no emotional attachment to the name, so it was not a big deal to me.
I can relate to this. This is how all DSM fans feel about the Eclipse. Hopefully Triumph doesn't do the same to the Daytona that Mitsubishi did to the Eclipse. The Eclipse is now a crossover SUV..... For the record, the second generation Eclipse (1995-1999) was the best and more specifically the 2GB (1997-1999)
My Daytona 675 is magic. My Tiger 660 (Daytona 660 lite), is a fantastic bike, but not a sports bike. The 660 can still hustle down the road even with full luggage.
Noticed how HUGE an R1 radiator is.. almost twice the size of my XSR9? Twice the velocity (RPM), 4 times the heat! Has to make a huge diff on emissions etc as well.
I’m kinda wanna see a video on why yammie praises the r7 but dislikes the Daytona 660. They are both for the same market so I’m curious to see what his thoughts are when comparing the two.
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I think this review was more like a Daytona 660 vs 675. I think what would have really helped would be from a perspective of Daytona 600 vs the other 600 class sports bikes in the market today.
I feel like if Triumph made a street triple daytona package that allows you to modify your street triple to have a Ferring like a daytona and clip on's, I think many street triple owners would love that.
When the first 765 Street Triple was being developed, they were considering a half/semi-faired version and were measuring response from focus groups of potential buyers. It's the only version that didn't make it to production, so, while I like the idea of a kit to convert the ST765 to a Daytona-like bike, it sounds like there might not be enough interest. And it might just not be cost effective to produce those kits and not sell many. It could also be quite expensive for the buyer.
Companies have realized that affordable and approachable motorcycles are carrying the market. There is a lot of newer riders compared to 10 years ago and these people want safer/slower bikes that give the rider the illusion of riding something sporty while not being as “scary” as the race counterparts. Same way the hype of liter bikes makes even casual riders fear them. If they build bikes that new riders fear they will miss out on customers that end up at the competitors doors for the R7 or Aprillia or kawi They want an approachable bike that will fulfills the style they are after and these bikes have been missing from the lineup for years.
I'd like to see the difference when added a proper exhaust and tune. It made a great difference with the gsx8 so I'm sure it would help the Daytona a lot too.
My retired friends say the same thing, “bikes were better in our day” yada yada yada. I never understood until i got a classic and restored it. Man what a peach. It provides so much of an “experience”. It’s an 1981 Kawasaki kz750. If I had to compare it to a bike it would have to be the zx4r. Obviously the zx4r has better brakes and suspension but the engine characteristics are very similar. However as much as I love my modern bikes old bikes were better. Sorry yam I think we’re falling into the “old guy” category and these young simps will never get to see what bikes really were. Only a select few will
Ok yammie, I got a 06’ 675. My only bike. She’s my baby. But she does not like metropolitan areas. Too many red lights. Serious question: Daytona 660, or Ninja 650?
I have a very good relationship with my local triumph dealer. I have a few triumphs in the stable and was looking at getting the new Daytona when I heard of it. I went to the dealership before it was originally released and inquired about purchasing one, they told me they test rode them and they weren't a real Daytona, and that it was dissapponting. I told them to let me know when they put a 765 in the bike and they Sadly said that will never happen.
My experience on motorcycles is limited to three bikes. My ‘12 Ninja 650. My brothers Daytona 660. And a GSXR-750. Of the three, the 660s gear selector is so squishy. I only knew I clicked into another gear because the dash said so. Not sure if this is the same experience others had. It’s my brothers first bike so he didn’t have much to compare to either
@yammienoob - youre showing your age with the ‘it’s not a Daytona’. I’m old enough to remember the Daytona 955i which was exactly what this was - a larger, relaxed, less focused, everyday usable sport bike. And actually aside from the 675, Daytonas have always been that - from the 900 to the 1200 to the Daytona 600. Also, as excited I am that this is available to people, for anyone who’s interested in a ‘more usable and cheaper Daytona’- test ride an early street triple 675 before you go financing something like this.
Honestly i believe most companies are shooting towards the bikes we can daily more then the die hard performance machines now and Honestly I get it!! Though we love the wild heart throbbing rush from the outlandish bikes that will bring that exciting feeling,but Honestly there is nothing better then one you can really enjoy riding without being worn slap out from just a general enjoyable ride. Some machines you want that close to the edge feeling. But the way the world is now. That is just not what most the world wants anymore. We have come into a softer generation of riders now and the companies are catching on to what's being sold. Though I prefer the old wild bikes. Can't deny. There's something about a comfortable daily rider also. So my advice. Get you the bike of your dreams now because the true outlandish wild bikes are becoming a dieing breed!! Have the bike you like and another for your daily.
It's strange why Triumph went with the Daytona name. People who know the old Daytona perceive this as a Trident and fail from Triumph. People who don't know the real Daytona, would not mind if it was called something else. I hope some marketing people use this as a case study. Personally I would even argue it hurts Triumphs existing customer base. I hate searching for parts for me 2012 nowdays... And Triumph...if Kawasaki and Honda can make a middle class bike, and BMW a liter bike in 2024...time to make something worth the name?
I agree; Trident R, Sprint 660, even something more like Daytona F (a lot of manufacturers use F for faired nakeds or softer sports) it could have been just as possible. However, I think this specific problem only really relates to people who know and love the current Daytona, and that rider wouldn’t buy this bike no matter what it was called. Ford have done the same name butchering with Capri, Mustang and Puma which hurts my heart, but doesn’t hurt their sales numbers
great review. now the question begs what should i upgrade to. Im stuck between the rs660, daytona 660, or zx6r. Or should i just wait for the CFMoto 675sr-r and the R9?
If everything you say about it is correct for me it is actually more Daytona than the 675. I owned one of the first Triumph's to have the Daytona name, a 1995 Daytona 900, that was no supersport, it was a sport touring bike. Secondly it is hard to hear you dismiss the Moto2 Daytona 765 as just a Street triple with plastic, when surely the same could be said of the 675 Daytona and the Street triple 675..... don't get me wrong I would love to see a production Daytona based on the 765 model but we all know it wouldn't sell....
I want the 8R or this with a 1000cc engine. It seem you either get comfort with a smaller engine or traditional back breaking ergos with a bigger one. This does look pretty good though all things considered and having so many sporty bikes that wont break the bank or the back is pretty cool.
Well I am riding an mt 07 at the moment so this is maybe the next best thing for someone that wants to change to something different but wants to stay under 100hp
Having owned a Daytona 675R I just can't get excited for this new 660. Maybe Triumph will give us a R Spec version that brings it closer to the old 675R, but I won't be holding my breath on it.
I feel like this is the modern equivalent of my 2001 SV650s, is it a full on sportsbike? No ive changed the rear shock and the fork internals but its a cheap bike that i use every day that makes good power and is comfortable too, a great learning tool that you wont get bored of fast, i did my test on a trident 660 and that was a good bike also and would be in the market for the daytona 660 if i didnt have my sv 🤷♂️ when its your bike, youll love it no matter what it is
Everyone I hear complaining about the name seem to ONLY talk about the 675 daytona, not the 955, or others, just the 675. So yeah, I kind of ignore them
Same here, the 660 is different to the 675, which is different to the 900, 955 and the 500 from 1967... They're all called Daytona, it doesn't matter! 👍 If all those whinging about the name actually bought a 675 Daytona, Triumph wouldn't have stopped making them 7 years ago! Times have moved on, people have moved on. Not everyone wants a super sports bike for the road now, I know I don't! I traded my Speed 400 in today, as while it is awesome around B roads in the UK, it isn't a bike for commuting down A roads or on motorways... I've got an XSR900 GP coming in September for blasting, and the 660 will be for weekend commutes when I don't want to use the car. I couldn't do that on the old 675 Daytona as my back, hips or knees wouldn't work after an hour on that! Lol 😂
@benjolley4120 it really is funny, everyone complaining about these bikes replacing tbr supersport class, but like no one bought those bikes because they weren't comfortable, nor were they typically easy to ride. These bikes are both of those things. Plus EVERYONE loves the mt07, so obviously the power isn't the issue, it's just other people's opinions on what you ride that they seem to care about. I wish the ergos on supersport and Superbike level bikes would return to the pre 2008 ergos at the minimum though. People bought these bikes when they were easier to get along with physically. Plus, with all the electronics we have now, there's no reason they can't relax the riding positions, ducati apparently did that with newest Panigale. Keeping my fingers crossed though
Most of them have only heard of the 675. They don't really know what they're talking about. If what we're hearing about the next Panagale V2 is accurate, the keyboard jockeys are going to lose their minds. 937 Testastretta engine, relaxed riding position, etc. Get ready for a deafening whinge.
As I understand it they're not moving on the market, and most reviewers are pretty much lukewarm about it so I think Triumph miscalculated the market and alienated the actual Daytona interested people.
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Man I was just asking my self, these last days, what do you think about Triumph Bikes, I can ask this in the Discord server?
i think yammie’s view on the daytona 660 is very similar to what diehard r6 people’s views were when the r7 came out
He’s not wrong tho. The r7 is a naked bike with fairings
The r7 was a shame to the Yamaha lineup should of been made to compete with the gsxr 750
R7 is basically a r3 😂😂
... because our motorcycles are poisoning the planet, that's why we get what we get nowadays.
@@Sazon_MotoA twin cylinder will never be a "four pot".
The logical choice for a do-it-all motorcycle is clearly an H2R.
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The "But it's not a Daytona!" argument rings hollow when you look at the first Gen Daytona which was more of a sport tourer...
The new Daytona is the direct competition to the Honda CBR 650. Not hard core sports bikes but great simple all rounders and a little comfortable too
the 650r is my go to bike when I just need to go.
The difference is that Honda still sells the cbr600rr
@@shubhamthakur8530Probably not many. Honda, with their huge volumes and economies of scale, can afford to carry low volume money pits (for race homologation, too). Triumph really can't.
The "new" CBR600RR is still mostly the same motorcycle it was for over a decade. Its updates are mainly to meet emmisions standards. Same with the ZX-6R.
650sr aswell
Yammienoob is not exactly the kind of guy who "gets" or understands things
Jam talked so much (and emotional) about the 675, that I have to go out and swing my leg over the old Streety R
I did that best bike ever, just was getting old and I changed it
Have it for more than a year, really love the 675 engine so smooth and handeling is beautiful
@@puravida012 jep it’s a great Allrounder I commute to work with it, chase some twisties in the Bavarian mountains or do some touring. I have put 20k km on it (~ 12,5k miles) in 2,5 seasons, I live in Bavaria so it’s only possible to ride 2/3 of the year🤙🏼
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Love my 765R❤
I debated long and hard, a used daytona 675 in my area cost about the same as the new 660. I ended buying a 2025 daytona 660 and I love it. Michigan roads are quite rough and it's comfortable enough to commute an hour to some fun roads and it's sporty enough to enjoy the curves.
Saw one of these on a carpark the other day, instantly changed my opinion. It's a good looking bike.
Yeah it looks bad in pictures but i saw it in person and instantly thought it was fucking awesome looking
I think a lot of the reason bikes seem nerfed is because they are, a motorcycle that revs high just can't meet emissions anymore. A couple milligrams of sulfur dioxide or nitrous oxide makes them fail, Even if it's a recreational machine that isn't used for the same appliance as a car the government especially in Europe is starting to use the bullwhip.
Meanwhile in China ... and us, it's us that buy that crap.
F the government
I love my Daytona 660!!! Such a great bike.
Brass tax: If you were expecting a reincarnated Daytona 675 and that's what you want, this bike is not for you. For the people that want a fun, affordable, fairly practical sporty road bike (and is also able to meet A2/Restricted license requirements) then it's a good option. So it will likely sell better than the D675 ever did.
*brass tacks
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Ah, yes, wasn't thinking there.
Had mine for about a month now and as a first bike, I'm loving it. I was originally looking at the ninja 650 but the 95hp really was what sold me on this bike. Enough power that I won't get sick of it after a year but safe enough that I won't be scared of it. Exhaust could be better but overall, great bike in my opinion. Although I haven't tried a whole lot of bikes ahah
After having tried this, and as an owner of a Tiger Sport 660, I have to agree with Yammie on this. It's a fun bike for cheap money, but it's more like a "Trident Sport" than Daytona. They should've built it on the Street Triple 765 platform.
they did that, it's called the Street triple 675. Stopped making them in 2018. I just bought one
Problem is, when they built the supersport Daytona 675, they couldn't sell enough. People forget that the whole supersport market collapsed. Development costs were high (the factories used to revise the bikes every two years) and sales were low. Supersports were impractical and expensive to own. Insuring a new one was insanely expensive for people in their 20s. Emissions were becoming a problem and development of those bikes virtually stopped.
Triumph will possibly build something like that if they think they can sell enough but they won't jump right in. They'll need a to see a real revival of the market. They're working on something spicy based on the Street Triple platform but it's not clear if it's going to be faired or not.
But how many people who claim to want a new supersport Daytona will actually buy one? How many bought or even have ridden a Daytona 675--or even gotten within a 50 feet of one? My guess is not too many.
Sales guy at my Triumph dealer said he thinks this is coming.
@@skippypeanutbutter9136 Street isn't a Daytona, no matter how you put it. It's based on the same bike, yes, but it's "tuned" very differently
@@nigo1787 ok? and? Nobody said it was a daytona with less fairings. It's the same recipe used by almost every manufacturer to use an existing supersport platform to produce a street or naked version. Yes the engines have differences, but they're not crazy. Look up people swapping daytona cams into the striple if you don't believe me. The midrange doesn't change, the top end improves. Kinda obvious to expect that with the extra revs the daytona gets
Perfect for this 70yr old on the street. I don't need 125hp. Just protection from the wind.
12:28, your statement there is why I think that the Triumph Street Triple is the best all rounder. Naked bike but the chassis is the proper Daytona chassis, the engine wether it’s the 675 or 765, is much more there than the 660. Rear set position that is as near to the Daytona as you can, gearbox gearing of course isn’t the same but it’s what makes the Street so much more livable day to day as well 💁🏽♂️
Yes. The Street Triple 765 RS is essentially the modern-day Daytona 675R. The D660 is something quite different.
After all the talk about this bike not being like the old Daytona. I had to go test ride one. and I had already test road a Trident months before. and I have to say that I was totally surprised with how much I loved this new Daytona 660. the engine has plenty of pep with a really nice stock sound, and the bike is nice and stable. and I also think the bike is really nice looking. even though it has allot of plastic. but one thing I didn't realize until I got back to the dealer on it and was talking to one of the guys who work there. is the frame on the side above the engine is a fake frame. it looks so much like a real Frame that I didn't even notice it until it was pointed out to me. it's just a piece of plastic that looks like a nice metal frame. and that kind of through me. I reached under it and its just a tubular frame. but other than that. I could be more than happy owning this bike. and I currently ride a Ducati 939 Supersport. ( I would love it if Triumph made the 765 Rs with a full fairing but without changing the ergonomics. just a more high end version of this new 660 with the same looks )
Bro, you still haven't got your hands on the new Street Triple RS. Would have been way more excited to hear your opinion on that one.
I freaking LOVE my Daytona 660 ❤ She is so fun!!!!
Imagine that a woman who doesnt know any better 😂
@@h1ko393 ohhhh how little you know. Cute dog 😏.
I'm logical and I got one immediately ordering one was possible at the dealership and I love it
Never been so early for a video from this channel!
I'm not regretting my tiger 660, because it's going to be a better commuter with the (free!) panniers and better fuel mileage. Remove the panniers, it's got enough sport appearance for most.
Bought this bike last month and I'm on my second burn in (Dealer sold me one and accidently sent me home on another so they switched me to the correct one when I went in for the 600 mile service). I love the bike! I have a 30 min commute and live in the mountains and it is wonderful.
Your car analogies are always funny to me cause modding a car goes a whole lot farther than a bike 😂😂
This is a good motorcycle. The single thing Triumph did wrong about this motorcycle is naming it a freaking 'Daytona'. If they didn't f**d up the naming and named it 'Trident RS' or something like that, this motorcycle then is a great product But I promise you, this motorcycle has nothing to do with a Daytona 675. Other than that, this is a good motor cycle.
I never imagined a plastic cover would ever make me wanna cry out of pure sadness and sheer disappointment.
Never had a Daytona but thanks for making me appreciate my 2016 Street Triple 675R even more today. It's a wonderful machine and that 675 engine howls like no other.
honestly the 660 engine is pretty close to the 675. Yes it doesn't "howl" quite as much but that's rules and regulations for you. The 765 doesn't really either
Sometimes I wish my 675 didn't whistle and growl quite as much. Yes, I'm getting old
I have the 660 Tiger and I’m getting the same vibrations, I’ve put on grip puppies and evotech bar end weights which has helped immensely but it’s still there. Older bikes were the best and I’ve ridden since the 80’s .
when I test drove a brand new Daytona I thought it was pretty vibey, but after buying one and breaking it in, it feels much smoother than I remember the test drive on feeling (which had like 60 miles on it)
It looks if a cfmoto450ss and an old r6 had a baby.
Looks so fucking cool tho.
Imagine if CFMOTO does a better job of the Daytona than Triumph
It aint got nothing on my street triple 765 moto2. That is the best bike I've ever owned or ridden
Yammi’s opinion on any bike: “If don’t go vroom fast, not good.”
I'm waiting for the CFMoto 675 to make my decision, i can't wait for it❤
Can't wait to see u talk about CFMoto 675SR-R
2018 yam vibes on this one
A return to form...
i think this bike makes much more sense for someone starting with motorcycling, especially here in europe where you have to start with the A2 licence which is restricted to 48 HP. you can easily restrict the daytona and after two years have a reasonable upjump to 95 HP and after a few years, if you really desire more, you can get something with more punch to it. but at least NOW you have experience at riding with close to 100 HP!
This was on my consideration list before buying a 8R. I thought the 660 was a great looking bike, liked the oddball 3 cylinder, and the Triumph name is a selling point on it's own. Thankfully for me, coming into bikes more as I near 40, I don't have the history with bikes more experienced riders do. I grew up knowing the Busa was god tier (still kind of is) and the GSXR 1000 was the street king. But now that times have changed and everyones stepped up their game in the top tier and lower tiers. I mean, I never thought the 300-500CC class would become so competitive growing up as well all looked at them as just learner bikes and disposable. In general I'm still in love with my 8R. Even though I think Suzuki nerfed the transmission gearing to sell more traditional Gixxers.
How do you like your 8R. I’m stuck between the 8R, this Daytona 660, and the RS660
@@garboi8976I’m an 8R rider. The low to mid range torque is 🔥🔥🔥
Probably should play with the sprockets and see if you can wake it up a little
@@6amamoeba677 Yeah I've been thinking a bigger sprocket set would do wonders. But it's not a must.
@@garboi8976 coming from 2 different sub 500cc bikes, I love it. I've only ridden for a few years so maybe not the expert opinion youre hoping for. But it's a great all around bike. Good torque, 3rd and 4th gear is really the sweet spot around 50mph+. Quick shifter at full throttle is amazing on ups (kinda sucks on the downs). I think it's a great mid-tier bike you can ride with out being to uncomfortable.
Yammie is the whole reason I bought a daytona 675r ❤
So right, the old 675 Daytona (and Street Triple) has that whistle+roar sound that is just so, so beautiful, as it revs-up and up and up for days in a gear.
I ride my W800 (47hp.) with a young guy who has a 675. When he drops a gear or two and passes me, it puts an ear bending smile on my face, every time. Man, that thing sounds awesome.
And I'll give you a tip: It is not slow!
Great that you were able to put your past experience aside and look at the bike as something completely new and different.
great review yammie! i think most people put their emotions in their internet comments but almost everyone would have a blast on this bike.
Just bought a Daytona 660, Carnival Red, 4 days ago. I don’t care what anyone says, I love this bike, and I made the right decision to go European this round. I no longer crave a 4 cylinder.
I really wanted to own a Daytona, but after watching this video, I've changed my mind, prime reason being the cheap quality being said! Also maybe the reason it's ntn like the 675 might be cause of the strict norms being placed all the time
I'm personally dreaming about a Triumph Daytona 765 RR based on the 2024 Street Triple 765 RS !!!
I would order one immediately if they decide to create it !!!
But as a competitor to the Honda CBR 650 R and the Suzuki GSX 8R, I would go for the Daytona 660 all day long if the Aprilia RS660 wouldn't exist !
I love how you made 2 reviews with you as a 675 fan and a "normal human being" review. And both of the review are quite accurate from each stand point. I'm not a 675 nut, but I agree with you that the bike should've been named something else. Trident R or RR seems quite the fit, I think. I own one BTW and it's been a joy to ride. Not that slow, but also not that hardcore fast. Just enough for me.
The same thing happened with the Yamahda R7. Some people believed that because 7 comes after 6 that they were getting a superior product, when in fact, they were receiving an mt-07 with fairings.
Also, the more I look at it, the more the headlight and mid-fairing look similar to the 2012-2016 Fireblade.
How’s that the same? This is a 660 being compared to a 675 why would someone think a 660 is more powerful than a 675?
@@mwomble8452it could be possible... The 600cc of the CBR600RR is more powerful than the 650cc of the CBR650R.. 😅
@@Black_Drako butttt that still circles around my question as to how it would apply to the 660 and the 675… 🙃
@@mwomble8452 It's the same because people thought they were getting a rework and instead of a far "inferior" product.
@@Dexx1s Ok going back to my original question that I guess I need to explain. My guy said people were thinking the R7 had more power because 7 is a bigger number than 6. I understand that there are motorcycles like the cbr 600 and 650 in which the 600 is faster than the 650. We are comparing his statement with the R7 and R6 to the 675 and the 660 the 675cc is more powerful than the 660cc Daytona. Sorry if I lost y’all on that I abandon my question lol.
My 2016 me would probably have bought this thing. My deceased Ninja 650 was my daily back then, and I wanted pretty much the same in a slightly better manner. As there were no good non-R4 sports tourers out there, I chose a Street Triple 675 R with a big wind shield as a compromise. I am a sucker for wind protection, beautiful plastics, and torque! And yes, Triumph should have named this bike Sprint 660.
Haven't ridden a smaller CC bike since my Honda CB550F which was very fun to ride all day and used way less fuel than my 1100CC Yamaha. Thanks for this review I'm seriously considering getting a Triumph love the look of the bike and idea of having a 3 cylinder!
My first street bike was a 2001 Triumph TT 600, which became the Daytona. The frame, ram air, and engine made those bikes. I agree that calling this tube framed, detuned bike a Daytona is a terrible idea and gets rid of what made a Daytona or TT, a Daytona.
No emotions here, I like the bike!
It’s 95HP on purpose to meet European/UK A2 license purposes. I have no doubt a few engine component changes would garnish an extra couple of thousand revs and provide more peak horsepower should Triumph wish it to. Encroaching on your 765 bikes in terms of HP would not be a great idea though. I think they got the engine dead right on this bike.
I want to see how this bike compares to the Street Triple, especially the old 675.
I agree this bike should've been named Sprint - the Sprint was a comfortable grand touring bike that looked like a sport bike, but was definitely not a supersport. There's nothing wrong with that - that's a great package to sell. But this is not a Daytona, and like Yam, I am a Daytona simp who misses my 675 that I had for many years and I don't think Triumph did themselves any favors diluting the the accomplishments the Daytona 675 had over the years by dropping the name on this new sport-ish touring bike that can never be as great as an actual Daytona. But I am also very pleased to see Triumph still developing and producing bikes in this current market, so I'll just have to sigh and hope the sales of this bike help strengthen their market presence.
I get your review as you arrived at the Triumph Daytona name at a specific model and time. The original Triumph Daytona is 490cc standard. I have no emotional attachment to the name, so it was not a big deal to me.
If people still bought supersport bikes, then theyd still make them.
I can relate to this. This is how all DSM fans feel about the Eclipse. Hopefully Triumph doesn't do the same to the Daytona that Mitsubishi did to the Eclipse. The Eclipse is now a crossover SUV..... For the record, the second generation Eclipse (1995-1999) was the best and more specifically the 2GB (1997-1999)
My Daytona 675 is magic. My Tiger 660 (Daytona 660 lite), is a fantastic bike, but not a sports bike. The 660 can still hustle down the road even with full luggage.
Noticed how HUGE an R1 radiator is.. almost twice the size of my XSR9? Twice the velocity (RPM), 4 times the heat! Has to make a huge diff on emissions etc as well.
I love my Daytona 660, it's literally perfect for my specific usecase
I’m kinda wanna see a video on why yammie praises the r7 but dislikes the Daytona 660. They are both for the same market so I’m curious to see what his thoughts are when comparing the two.
This is the best review.
All other reviews will be somewhere in the middle of the spectrum between the "Emotional" and "Logical" from this video.
I have one kislux bag I got in 2019, it's the LV white catogram speedy. It's counter quality and it has a nice honey patina now, so the leather is real. I think whatever makes you happy go for it. I've seen LV with plastic leather and blood red glaze...
I think this review was more like a Daytona 660 vs 675. I think what would have really helped would be from a perspective of Daytona 600 vs the other 600 class sports bikes in the market today.
I feel like if Triumph made a street triple daytona package that allows you to modify your street triple to have a Ferring like a daytona and clip on's, I think many street triple owners would love that.
When the first 765 Street Triple was being developed, they were considering a half/semi-faired version and were measuring response from focus groups of potential buyers. It's the only version that didn't make it to production, so, while I like the idea of a kit to convert the ST765 to a Daytona-like bike, it sounds like there might not be enough interest. And it might just not be cost effective to produce those kits and not sell many. It could also be quite expensive for the buyer.
No one wants to hear this but the street triple is the "new" daytona
I feel validated lol. I have the exact same feelings to the Daytona 660 that r6 guys did to the r7
These are currently £8.6k, vs £10.1k for the entry level 765R. I feel like you get a lot more for your money with the street triple.
Yammie this whole video "Well back in MY day."
The Yammie safe word is “You know?” 😂😂
Never thought I'd say this, but... backwards hat Yammie is my favourite Yammie. But I ride ATGATT, so I don't qualify as a squid. I am confused.
Companies have realized that affordable and approachable motorcycles are carrying the market.
There is a lot of newer riders compared to 10 years ago and these people want safer/slower bikes that give the rider the illusion of riding something sporty while not being as “scary” as the race counterparts. Same way the hype of liter bikes makes even casual riders fear them.
If they build bikes that new riders fear they will
miss out on customers that end up at the competitors doors for the R7 or Aprillia or kawi
They want an approachable bike that will fulfills the style they are after and these bikes have been missing from the lineup for years.
I'd like to see the difference when added a proper exhaust and tune. It made a great difference with the gsx8 so I'm sure it would help the Daytona a lot too.
My retired friends say the same thing, “bikes were better in our day” yada yada yada. I never understood until i got a classic and restored it. Man what a peach. It provides so much of an “experience”. It’s an 1981 Kawasaki kz750. If I had to compare it to a bike it would have to be the zx4r. Obviously the zx4r has better brakes and suspension but the engine characteristics are very similar. However as much as I love my modern bikes old bikes were better. Sorry yam I think we’re falling into the “old guy” category and these young simps will never get to see what bikes really were. Only a select few will
Ok yammie, I got a 06’ 675. My only bike. She’s my baby. But she does not like metropolitan areas. Too many red lights. Serious question: Daytona 660, or Ninja 650?
I have a very good relationship with my local triumph dealer. I have a few triumphs in the stable and was looking at getting the new Daytona when I heard of it. I went to the dealership before it was originally released and inquired about purchasing one, they told me they test rode them and they weren't a real Daytona, and that it was dissapponting. I told them to let me know when they put a 765 in the bike and they Sadly said that will never happen.
Yammie made a video about a possible 765+ Tona prototype. Wouldn't be surprised if it became a thing
I hope it does. They made the 2020 Moto 2 version after all
This video format is good, I'd love to see other bikes from both view points as well
I've been waiting for this review. 😅
Emissions especially the Euro is over the top.. at least here most states don't do MC sniffing, so a reflash is generally required.
I am really looking forward to seeing how the CFMoto 675SRR will stack up against the Daytona 660.
My experience on motorcycles is limited to three bikes. My ‘12 Ninja 650. My brothers Daytona 660. And a GSXR-750. Of the three, the 660s gear selector is so squishy. I only knew I clicked into another gear because the dash said so. Not sure if this is the same experience others had. It’s my brothers first bike so he didn’t have much to compare to either
If I were to daily commute on this platform I’d be getting the Tiger 660.
I think the Aprilia RS 457 will give you more sporty sensations than this Daytona, really looking foward to seen you in that bike.
@yammienoob - youre showing your age with the ‘it’s not a Daytona’. I’m old enough to remember the Daytona 955i which was exactly what this was - a larger, relaxed, less focused, everyday usable sport bike. And actually aside from the 675, Daytonas have always been that - from the 900 to the 1200 to the Daytona 600.
Also, as excited I am that this is available to people, for anyone who’s interested in a ‘more usable and cheaper Daytona’- test ride an early street triple 675 before you go financing something like this.
Honestly i believe most companies are shooting towards the bikes we can daily more then the die hard performance machines now and Honestly I get it!! Though we love the wild heart throbbing rush from the outlandish bikes that will bring that exciting feeling,but Honestly there is nothing better then one you can really enjoy riding without being worn slap out from just a general enjoyable ride. Some machines you want that close to the edge feeling. But the way the world is now. That is just not what most the world wants anymore. We have come into a softer generation of riders now and the companies are catching on to what's being sold. Though I prefer the old wild bikes. Can't deny. There's something about a comfortable daily rider also. So my advice. Get you the bike of your dreams now because the true outlandish wild bikes are becoming a dieing breed!! Have the bike you like and another for your daily.
This could rob R7 and RS660 buyers if they bring out suspension component upgrades and clip on bar upgrades for not too much price increase.
It's strange why Triumph went with the Daytona name.
People who know the old Daytona perceive this as a Trident and fail from Triumph.
People who don't know the real Daytona, would not mind if it was called something else.
I hope some marketing people use this as a case study. Personally I would even argue it hurts Triumphs existing customer base. I hate searching for parts for me 2012 nowdays...
And Triumph...if Kawasaki and Honda can make a middle class bike, and BMW a liter bike in 2024...time to make something worth the name?
I agree; Trident R, Sprint 660, even something more like Daytona F (a lot of manufacturers use F for faired nakeds or softer sports) it could have been just as possible.
However, I think this specific problem only really relates to people who know and love the current Daytona, and that rider wouldn’t buy this bike no matter what it was called.
Ford have done the same name butchering with Capri, Mustang and Puma which hurts my heart, but doesn’t hurt their sales numbers
great review. now the question begs what should i upgrade to. Im stuck between the rs660, daytona 660, or zx6r. Or should i just wait for the CFMoto 675sr-r and the R9?
DAAAAAAAAAAAANG! Glad to see the OG Yammie back.
Here's hoping for the next "logical" step from a Daytona 660... a comeback of the Street Triple based Daytona 765
Hope Triumph engineers watch this and go
"Make the Daytona 1200RR"
If everything you say about it is correct for me it is actually more Daytona than the 675. I owned one of the first Triumph's to have the Daytona name, a 1995 Daytona 900, that was no supersport, it was a sport touring bike. Secondly it is hard to hear you dismiss the Moto2 Daytona 765 as just a Street triple with plastic, when surely the same could be said of the 675 Daytona and the Street triple 675..... don't get me wrong I would love to see a production Daytona based on the 765 model but we all know it wouldn't sell....
So basically you can change the triumph sticker for a cfmoto one and no one would notice
I want the 8R or this with a 1000cc engine. It seem you either get comfort with a smaller engine or traditional back breaking ergos with a bigger one. This does look pretty good though all things considered and having so many sporty bikes that wont break the bank or the back is pretty cool.
Maybe they will release an R version? I get you man, the previous one is really gorgeous like a first love.
I got the yellow Street Triple 765 RS. It's a naked bike but it's perfect for canyon and track riding.
Well I am riding an mt 07 at the moment so this is maybe the next best thing for someone that wants to change to something different but wants to stay under 100hp
Having owned a Daytona 675R I just can't get excited for this new 660. Maybe Triumph will give us a R Spec version that brings it closer to the old 675R, but I won't be holding my breath on it.
I feel like this is the modern equivalent of my 2001 SV650s, is it a full on sportsbike? No ive changed the rear shock and the fork internals but its a cheap bike that i use every day that makes good power and is comfortable too, a great learning tool that you wont get bored of fast, i did my test on a trident 660 and that was a good bike also and would be in the market for the daytona 660 if i didnt have my sv 🤷♂️ when its your bike, youll love it no matter what it is
Look, from what I hear this is absolutely a Daytona, and the 675 is the odd one out, with this being much closer to 955
Everyone I hear complaining about the name seem to ONLY talk about the 675 daytona, not the 955, or others, just the 675. So yeah, I kind of ignore them
Same here, the 660 is different to the 675, which is different to the 900, 955 and the 500 from 1967... They're all called Daytona, it doesn't matter! 👍
If all those whinging about the name actually bought a 675 Daytona, Triumph wouldn't have stopped making them 7 years ago! Times have moved on, people have moved on. Not everyone wants a super sports bike for the road now, I know I don't! I traded my Speed 400 in today, as while it is awesome around B roads in the UK, it isn't a bike for commuting down A roads or on motorways... I've got an XSR900 GP coming in September for blasting, and the 660 will be for weekend commutes when I don't want to use the car. I couldn't do that on the old 675 Daytona as my back, hips or knees wouldn't work after an hour on that! Lol 😂
@benjolley4120 it really is funny, everyone complaining about these bikes replacing tbr supersport class, but like no one bought those bikes because they weren't comfortable, nor were they typically easy to ride. These bikes are both of those things. Plus EVERYONE loves the mt07, so obviously the power isn't the issue, it's just other people's opinions on what you ride that they seem to care about. I wish the ergos on supersport and Superbike level bikes would return to the pre 2008 ergos at the minimum though. People bought these bikes when they were easier to get along with physically. Plus, with all the electronics we have now, there's no reason they can't relax the riding positions, ducati apparently did that with newest Panigale. Keeping my fingers crossed though
Tldr; if bikes are more comfortable, people buy them, if you buy them, they make more bikes
Most of them have only heard of the 675. They don't really know what they're talking about.
If what we're hearing about the next Panagale V2 is accurate, the keyboard jockeys are going to lose their minds.
937 Testastretta engine, relaxed riding position, etc. Get ready for a deafening whinge.
As I understand it they're not moving on the market, and most reviewers are pretty much lukewarm about it so I think Triumph miscalculated the market and alienated the actual Daytona interested people.
Yammie, try building a new badass prototype bike, bringing the past to the present again