Jason Smith - Adam Johnson's Death Wasn't an Accident, It's a Dirty Play that Got Out of Hand
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 พ.ค. 2024
- JASON SMITH SHOW - Jason Smith & Mike Harmon react to the grim footage of hockey player Adam Johnson, who died in October 2023 after an on-ice collision resulted in a cut to his neck from a skate.
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0% accidental, 100% intentional. Standing ovation is disgusting.
They are our main rivals, and we think they are a cheating, dirty team, but you can't blame the Steelers fans for not knowing it was intentional at the time. I'm sure they wouldn't do it now. I am not looking forward to having them back at the Motorpoint.
its the worst foul in hockey I've ever seen, the least that should happen is Petgrave has a life time hockey ban
It wasn’t a standing ovation, it was out of context
Out of context? Really?
@@vixtex it was fans cheering during the entire player introductions, Petgraves profile was on the big screen during the viral clip. Its being promoted that the fans specifically stood up for Petgrove, but that’s not the case. Also, most fans at an AHL game have no idea who the players of their team are, let alone any additional information about them. It’s a great/inexpensive thing to do for a date night
The fact the league hasn't suspended him is ridiculous. Was blatantly deliberate kick. Whether he intended bodily harm is irrelevant. It was a dangerous play.
What happened that first responders couldn’t effectively provide direct pressure to the artery? Then rush into surgery. The injury, though very critical, is highly survivable.
From reports the injury to Johnson's neck was too catastrophic to be survivable outside an OR and even then it would be highly challenging. By all accounts his carotid artery was fully transected and his wind pipe severed. Damage too severe for first responders to prevent rapid bleeding out by attempting to pinch close surface vessels. @@wtfminny
@@wtfminny I don't know I'm not a doctor
@@wtfminnyI have heard reports that his wind pipe was also sliced, but I don't know how true that is. I have also heard reports that he was given CPR on ice, and I don't know how effective that would be with a sliced trachea and blood gushing from a sliced jugular. If the slice was long enough, he might have been bleeding from both sides of his neck in addition to having a sliced trachea. It could take less than a minute to bleed out. It was a mortal wound, probably one that had little or no chance of survival at all.
"I coached Matt for a very short stint. I wanted to get rid of him immediately ... He has no respect for himself or his opponents. He used to get into a bit of a mess. He is a very dirty player."
- former assistant coach of Petgrave
I don't know much about the guy but knowing he was using the blade of his skate to stop or intimidate ⁷a fellow player shows that he's a dirty player who likes chaos...
The very first thing coaches tell their young 7 year old, or younger, players, in the USA and Canada, is to keep your skates on the ice. Period. Those skates are as sharp as a razor.
I'm a panthers fan,I wasn't at the game in Sheffield thank god and I have not watched the video for obvious reasons but there does seem to be a shift in opinion away from a "freak accident" this has obviously been confirmed by the arrest. He has since been released on police bail.I realise the Sheffield fans wanted to show their support for their player but I was very surprised that he was even in the building to get a standing ovation in the first place,considering this is an ongoing investigation I think it would have been prudent to have kept him out of the limelight .
He wasn’t there. They showed his face on the screen.
@@Sevespoke Thankyou for the clarification on that,appreciated.
It was manslaughter at the very minimum. Borderline murder
I’m just a casual fan and even I could see that wasn’t a freak accident it was intentional
With all due respect, to your casual fan title, if you are willing to analzye the play and could understand what was devloping in the play, then you must might have a different viewpoint. To form an opinion based on real time play, is the typical casual fan.
@@beverly9 nonsense? Watch that damn play and get a clue about the game of hockey and how a player’s in-game vision is before your crying eyes come on here and accuse someone of murder.
@Michelle-vu3feyou may have eyes, but you apparently don’t know how to use those eyeballs to analyze the game of hockey. Instead you watch once or twice, then allow his penalty minute stats to form your opinion. So good luck to you.
Hockey has been part of my life since I was a little kid and I went into viewing that not having any idea what had happened other than Adams passing. The second I saw it I turned to my wife and said”He did that on purpose!” I watched it again and 100% felt the same that was done with purpose. I have assumed from day 1 that he didnt try to kill him but that is of little consequence he killed him with wreckless abandon. He did it to keep him from possibly scoring. Ive never seen that in 40 plus years. Only time Ive seen legs that high is someone getting flipped on purpose. That was nothing like that.
I agree. Whatever contact he made with the defender, if any at all, was too minimal to result in this kind of catastrophe. I'm not a sports fan but I looked into hockey hits and this does appear to be a hit, rather than an imbalance after making minimal contact with Johnson's defender.
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He definitely needs to go to prison for sure.
Petgrave wasn’t loosing his Balance! I want to make that Crystal Clear! He Must Pay Consequences to the Full Extent!
Petgrave didn’t actually play the other night he was watching the game in the stands. I can’t believe he’s getting so much support and if you comment that you think he was to blame your apparently being a racist because Petgrave is black. I’ve said all along and I’m in the minority over in the UK that there was reckless intent from Petgrave that caused Adam Johnson to lose is life. I’ve watched the video over Probably 500 times and I can’t see how anyone can say that Petgrave got clipped to make his skate go up high. HIs skate is already going sideways towards Adam Johnson before he get anywhere near the other Panthers player and if you watch very closely there is actually 2 times that he makes contact with his skate first in the chin neck area then he stabs his skate back that hits him in the ear and neck. Petgrave obviously didn’t mean to kill Johnson but there’s reckless intent to stop him that went horribly wrong.
I noticed that too. After the intial contact he kicks his leg out further.
There is a karate move called a "flying double side kick." You can easily find videos on this move. One You Tube video is called Boyka's flying double side kick. . In a clear video of the Petgrave/Johnson contact, you can see Petgrave make this flying double side kick move. Petgrave did not only have one leg up high in the air, as appears in the blurry videos. He had BOTH of his legs/skates in the air. In a double flying side kick, you hit the target twice, one higher, one lower. This is what Petgrave did. I believe his Internet search history can prove he was practicing this liiegal move. I may be wrong. But if I am correct, it can be proven.
In Taekwondo that kick is called Twi Myo Yeop Chagi. Its obvious if you have any martial arts background.
@@advanceromance2656yes, there do seem to be similar kicks in different martial arts.
That standing O- IS PROFUSELY INSULTING!
English Hockey for you :) any seasoned hockey player will tell you it was intentional, it was dirty, it was not hockey at all
I know very little about hockey but even as a 40 year old mother with zero interest in it i knew he shouldnt have lifted his boots like that. If what he did was so normal and right then someone would be getting there throat cut every week in the sport. The standing ovation is a disgrace. He may not have intentionally wanted to kill him but if someone dies as a result of your negligent behaviour, that is manslaughter.
I have played and refereed the game for 50 years and he intentionally tried to use his leg in a high kick to make contact with Johnson coming across the zone and as a result of this incredibly dirty play ended a life for a game! It's extremely difficult to not see this as manslaughter.
Wasn’t the first time this player used this dirty reckless tactic!
He has a history of it
this is some dystopia we live in. That a black player can’t be called out for clear murder or manslaughter. If this were white on black, espn would be milking this story dry. Since it’s the other way, it’s a “”freak accident””
You are 1000% correct and don’t ever be gaslit into thinking otherwise. Sick times we’re living in.
Another thing is if he'd just done a knee on knee or something everyone would call the play dirty.
@@DanBauer
Yes, I am sick of the media's spin that if you think Petgrave is guilty, you're a far-right r4cist.
Not enough black coaches were hired and the mere speculation of “racism” on the NFL owners part was headline news. Black guy at minimum commits manslaughter on a hockey rink and this story is relegated to small content creators and “Jason Smith”, a podcast host on FSR with 500 viewers.
No player accidentally kicks a skate that high. This ain’t figure skating and they are professionals. This wasn’t an accident. He probably mean to catch the guys arm or something
@@realityreviews2314the one from his OHL days? That one wasn't blatantly deliberate. The one clip I saw anyway. This one though was absolutely a deliberate kicking motion.
@@realityreviews2314 ok fair enough. The footage I saw it just didn't seem clear. But I'm happy to stand corrected.
@@realityreviews2314it’s very obvious he tripped this time, did you even watch the clip?
I thought it had to be accidental until I saw the entire play, I know it wasn’t intent to kill but he certainly was trying to clean him off his feet with the iron lotus
One of the craziest things you will ever see in sports
Without a doubt, there IS More footage of that, there’s Cameras Everywhere on the Rink. The video of this really isn’t Bad at all. How the Reff who seen it & other Personal didn’t even do Anything to Help Right Away.. It was his Teammate who got the Attention for Help. The medical staff Sucked!! Adam Even got ON HIS FEET AND SKATED TO THE BENCH 😮😮 AND People are just looking at him??!!! WTH He had a Chance IF HE HAD Adequate resources there… IMO!
I don't think so. A busted artery is almost always fatal
If you watch that terrible video slowly and run it back and forth,, you can tell PETGRAVE used the player( he supposedly collided with) used that player as a steady post/object to keep his balance so he could kick his leg up that high!! it was NO "FREAK" accident it was done on purpose! if he got tangled up with the one he collided with, that player would have been down too,, he wasn't ! If you watch it,he wasn't even knocked off balance,, PETGRAVE grabbed his shoulders in order to STEADY HIMSELF TO make the kick!!!
I want to know with the camera technolgy we have , why is the whole event so blurry? and only 1 angle?
They probably have clearer pictures that they won't release to the public. That is evidence that will be reserved for the King's councillors and the jury and the court case. They don't want to muddy the waters with any potential jurors. It's gonna be hard enough to find jurors who have no prior knowledge of the incident or at the very least hasn't consumed the social media storm about it
The first video I saw on the Sunday morning was very clear. As the days went by it became much smaller images and more blurry. What got me was, it was also cut for the split second he made that fatal move but continued to show poor Adam bleeding out.
@@juliewillmott3169 yeah I remember seeing a distinct extension of the leg just before impact. That vision seems to have disappeared. Hopefully it's available to the police to show the court.
another thing I didn't like, as I've been playing ice Hockey since 1976, is all the sports channels saying "Players don't fly in the air like that" which is 1000% BS even if the kick was on purpose..
Title is correct. This shouldnt be a hot take.
There were no "charges filed", unfortunately.
He was arrested "on suspicion of manslaughter" and questioned, then released on bail with no actual charges yet.
All part of due process. It's an indication that the initial Police investigation has not exonerated Petgrave from blame and they believe he is potentially carrying a degree of culpability consistent with the charge of manslaughter. I don't imagine any actual charges will be brought until the Coroner's report is complete in January and the likelihood of a successful prosecution is assessed.
Title of this video is almost the exact definition of manslaughter.
Dirty play leg was to high and u see a kick out
100% NOT an accident
In my opinion….DELIBERATELY A KICK/Swinging of his leg, wanting to cause harm but OBVIOUSLY WENT HORRIBLY…No matter what the outcome now… ONE LIFE LOST IS ONE TOO MANY…. Petgrave must now live with his actions AND suffer the consequences of his actions … Thoughts & Prayers ho out to Adam Johnson’s entire family …🙏😢
I agree I've been to several hockey games ❤. I didn't see this one. God to him and his family
13:08 there doesn't even have to malicious intent. Only for there to reckless behaviour. Obviously in such a violent sport there is reckless behaviour that is part and parcel of the sport and is even legal in the sport. Any incidence of a fatality in those cases would be treated as an accident even though technically it was reckless. A player gives implied consent to violent action against them when playing a contact sport as long as it's within the rules. The problem in this case is it wasn't within the rules and malicious intent is not required for convictuon. Only reckless actions.
Excellent analysis of the Adam Johnson tragic incident. There is a point which I have not seen discussed and that is the entire play was Offside! If you watch the slow-motion reply of Johnson and his teammate entering the zone, you can see that Johnson still has the puck on the blue line when his teammate has already entered the zone. Both skates of Johnson's teammate are over the blue line before Johnson brings the puck into the zone. The referee is seen signaling the play onside, but in my estimation, he has blown the call. I am not sure if he had blown the whistle that it would have prevented the damage to Johnson because of the speed it happened, but it is interesting to think about. ALL Hockey players should be wearing Kevlar full throat protection. One only has to remember Clint Malarchuk's throat being cut by a skate blade or Richard Zednik's throat being cut by a skate blade, or Canadian Junior player Kyle Fundytus dying after being hit in the throat by a puck. It's the 21st Century people.
Petgrave won't do time and everyone knows why.
Just as an aside Petgrave hasn't iced since the incident occurred.
True but the league hasn't officially suspended him.
I can't imagine he'll ever play here again.
The ref dhould have stopped the play
Dirty play outta hand 100%.
This is very shocking to us in the UK, we're not a hocky nation and aren't familiar with how the sport is played, to many of us the clips we have seen of the sport seem so violent already
Not a great way to grow hockey in the UK.
Not entirely true. Ice hockey has been played in the UK since the late 1800's with the first competitive league formed in 1903. It's still the most spectated indoor sport in the UK by some margin.
The Nottingham panthers were founded in 1946 and although classed as a minority sport here in the UK (nearly every sport is a minority sport here compared to football) there is a strong and passionate fanbase, so there are those of us that ARE familiar with how the sport is played and how it isn't!!.
The most telling part of that video isn’t even the kicking in the trip the off-balance leg kicked up into the air, which I’ve never seen a player or the leg that the guy had the majority of his weight on was the one that aunt went up first, but that besides the point Watch the play it was predatory from the very start. He skated over to them and watched him in a predatory manner. I’ve never seen a defensive structure where a guy states Ford going diagonally across the blue line as a defender to try and Leah hit on a guy who, technically at that point wasn’t even his man , it was predatory from the start the new guy who had the park and he wanted to hurt him in someway or triphammer make an accidental neon the contactor. Whatever he was predatory from the beginning it wasn’t in the moment I’m playing a defensive, Sasha like I should and I know I’m gonna take a vantage of a plan in the moment it was five or six seconds of him walking onto Johnson skating over to him completely purposely breaking down the defence of structure to go do something to him that’s the most telling part of the whole thing to me
Say what?
I thought that that happened with a stick. Hockey is a dangerous sport because it's a contact sport using a stick and wearing blades.
He got 5 minutes for spearing last year too. Very dirty player.
As always, black privilege comes through. If it was the other way around you would never hear the end of it and they would want that guy locked up
What's even worse, is I believe the play was offsides. It's very close.
It definitely should have been offside but the lineman ruled the zone entry clean and coach reviews aren't available for regular season games from what I can tell.
I believe the arms outstretched indicate a clean zone entry or am I mistaken?
@@beverly9 I think you misinterpreted the statement. I believe what they mean is it was unnecessary to even stop Johnson if the linesman made the correct offsides decision. making it even more tragic.
You are right@@XaviRonaldo0 the referee has his arms up to signal the play onsides, but it should have been called offsides. He blew the call because Johnson's teammate has both skates across the blue line while Johnson still has the puck on the blue line!
@@jeffreyirabernstein it's important to note that even if he had called it offsides it's unlikely to have made a difference as it all happened so fast. Petgrave wouldn't have had time to realise the play was over and he didn't need to stop him. I sincerely hope the linesman hasn't seen this and is feeling guilty for blowing the call. It wouldn't have made a difference and even if it would have you can't blame him for making an honest/innocent mistake.
@@beverly9 If the referee had blown his whistle for offside as he should have done, it is possible that Johnson and the other players might have stopped skating towards each other and simply let up since the play was now dead.
So senseless, and you know a throat guard is mandatory in every league leading into the nhl, and they get to nhl they take them off. Wtf I mean if you already wore it that long you got to be use to why take it off.
Unfortunately even if he is found guilty there will be no justice likely to get a suspended sentence.
Yes and let not forget the race card will get played.
Poorly described
Ive made my final decision that modern sports are just toned down versions of the Roman Cooliseum and gladiators. Im repulsed. I'm not a sports fan to begin with and I never will be.
Will you please?
In addition to the blatant dirty play on the ice, I think there was serious liability and mismanagement of the injury by the trainer or medical team at the stadium. Florida Panther Richard Zednik survived having his carotid slashed in a truly accidental skate contact in, 2008 - because his trainer & arena staff IMMEDIATELY pinched off the artery and continued to apply lifesaving pressure until the EMTs took over. The hospital prepped for an immediate transfusion and surgery while Zednik was in transit. He was obviously incredibly fortunate. But it seems like there was an unnecessary time delay before Johnson got emergency intervention. I could be wrong, but in addition to charging Petgrave, justice demands there should be a complete investigation of how the appropriate personnel responded to Johnson's injury from those first crucial moments to his final tragic demise.
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Wear a neck guard.
I doubt a neck guard would have saved Adam.
@@etiennedevignolles7538 it 1000% would have saved him. Accidents happen in the game of hockey that’s why you wear equipment to protect yourself
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Not if it's hanging down at the front like a goalie's guard, the karate kick looked to be to the side of Adam's neck.
@@OGfps94 1000% would have saved him??? I'm not sure you really understand how the neck guards work my guy... Most neck guards are NOT a guarantee especially the way he got kicked full force in the side of the neck... most of the neck guards move around and only cover a few inches of the neck...
@@johnscustomsaws you don’t wear a neck guard or haven’t been to a sports store in 10+ years CCM sell cut proof Kevlar neck guards many other Brands in Canada have cut resistant neck guards. Accidents happen unfortunately Adam wasent wearing a neck guard and got sliced. When your hip gets hit like at full speed you loose control of your feet he didn’t kick him
Stop spreading lies…
Firstly, to the point there are no charges of manslaughter.
Secondly Petgrave doesn’t knee him first then kick .
Thirdly, Petgrave has not played since.
If your doing a podcast at least make it factual
was arrested on suspicion of manslaughter. thats why he had a bond. its still under investigation
ok people watch the vidieo it was a accident note he was of balance after hitting the othe player
You're off in pixie land
Paul are you off your meds again buddy??? We talked about this my guy 🤨
Bullish!! it was an accident no player in hockey lifts his leg that high ever
@xavi, @john, @otherjohn: im so happy to see people with a brain left calling out these morons so i dont have to do it all by myself.
god bless all 3 of you and your families.
@paul: seek help, and possibly see an optometrist.
Let's hear the racists take.
Na, what Petgrave did WAS NOT a normal motion in hockey. I'm not saying that he should be convicted of manslaughter, but he THREW that kick. I highly doubt that he was trying to end Johnson, but the kick/the motion was intentional
You don't see white players doing that
@@SuperJoshuaWorld you don't see white players doing what? a dirty play is a dirty play.... white, black, russian, chinese, mexican every race at some point plays dirty....in sports....
this play and conversation wouldn't even be taken place if there wasn't a death...dirty plays are done by dirty and sucky players it has nothing to do with their race....so you need to grow up a little if that's the way you're looking at this...
@@donovans6472 so which white hockey player sliced another hockey players neck with his blade?
Race is irrelevant. It’s dirty play with horrific consequences. What are you smoking?
Petgraves skate contacts the other players skate immediately prior to the incident. There is enough of a chance Petgrave lost balance that you cannot successfully prosecute.
Nope. Countless people who've played hockey their whole lives have said there is no way his leg gets that's high unless intentional. You can consider them expert witnesses in this case
@@XaviRonaldo0
Nicely said
@@XaviRonaldo0 I played and was a coach at the high school and college level. There are accounts every year of players getting cut by skates. It happens frequently enough that it was just a matter of time for this to happen. You might be too young to remember Wide World of Sports, in the program you would see countless people rag-dolling in unexpected ways. Remember the burden is on the government to prove it wasn’t an accident.
Fat L take, dude killed another guy because he was a shitty player and shittier person.
You're entitled to your opinion, but clearly youre the minority with that mindset.
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He may not have intended murder, but he lifted his skate 5 feet off the ice for no reason ...???
So his negligence killed a man.
Criminal negligence causing death (section 220)
the breach amounts to a wanton or reckless disregard for the lives and safety of others. a person died as a result. the act or omission constituting the breach of a legal duty caused the person's death.