A PERFECT PORT (ARCADE VS SATURN) Virtua Fighter 2 Comparison

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  • @BitsBeats
    @BitsBeats  ปีที่แล้ว +139

    The Saturn version of VF2 is a technical achievement, a dream port of the arcade game. Do you agree?

    • @UltimateOmegaRed
      @UltimateOmegaRed ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "You must play... play until your fingers break... *UNTIL YOUR FINGERS BREAK!!!"*

    • @BadBoyBird
      @BadBoyBird ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah

    • @PAINNN666
      @PAINNN666 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      almost perfect. character animation and details still better on Arcade.

    • @MousyBScrappin
      @MousyBScrappin ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. I played that game so much it was ridiculous. Sometimes I’d just make Akiras stage super huge and put no damage on the life bars and just zone out practicing on harder settings to get the skills up

    • @karloaquinde3476
      @karloaquinde3476 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Most certainly. Loved having this arcade gem at home battling my homie every weekend. An Amazing port.

  • @EhHold
    @EhHold ปีที่แล้ว +68

    This port along with Sega Rally were phenomenal.

  • @MagisterHamid
    @MagisterHamid ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Imagine if this was launch game with Saturn.

    • @PAINNN666
      @PAINNN666 ปีที่แล้ว

      just look at non remix VF1

    • @otaviofer5438
      @otaviofer5438 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      And imagine if virtua fighter 3 team battle was ported to dreamcast by am2, instead of a 3rd party company(because Yu suzuki and his team was busy with Shenmue at the time)
      Also, If you don't know about virtua fighter 3 team battle for dreamcast, i can't blame you, because it was released only in Japan

    • @TheHardcoreGamer1
      @TheHardcoreGamer1 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was basically a launch title in Japan

    • @MagisterHamid
      @MagisterHamid ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheHardcoreGamer1 it was not

    • @playnalisis
      @playnalisis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@otaviofer5438the DC Port was almost perfect

  • @bpcgos
    @bpcgos ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Fun Fact ... For anyone watch 4,5 hours of Virtua Cop history in Pandamonium channel, will knew that Saturn beat Model 2 in texture color. So the texture in Saturn will always better and have more details compared to Model 2 because model 2 still basically using grayscale almost transparent texture mapped into a colored/shaded polygon, thats it why its looks a bit muted compared to saturn texture.

  • @EAprima
    @EAprima ปีที่แล้ว +21

    A real story when I use to work at Electronic Boutique:
    I put up Sega Saturn's VF2 on both large-screen monitors that were in front of the store. I played VF2 and, like a true expert, I showcased Akira pulling off combos, switches, combo with his knee attack, high and low counterattacks, etc. VF fans would have been proud and in awe but most of the passers-by shouted:
    "WOW! TEKKEN 2 LOOKS AMAZING! WE GOT TO BUY A PLAYSTATION"
    Ugh! I hated that. I hated that so much. Even had the Sega Saturn console and game logo in front of the store even though EB HQ ordered Pandamonium presentation instead (which they still got but I had to show people what VF was all about), but it was ineffective as the Playstation word of mouth around that time was too strong for the Sega Saturn to have a chance. Damn... I tried. The only other games that had the best effect in swaying the audience were Sega Rally and the Panzer Dragoon series, but you could only use those games for so long.

    • @martyy90
      @martyy90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      vf is so stiff compared to tekken

    • @HamtaroSonicHedgehog
      @HamtaroSonicHedgehog 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don't blame yourself man. You tried. :( Playstation was just too strong of a brand at that time for people to consider other options, not to mention all the behind the scenes bullshit with Sega of Japan and Sega of America really doomed the system.

  • @MegaShingo97
    @MegaShingo97 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Shame that they didn't add much in terms of story and mode in that port especially when you compared it to it's competitor Tekken 2 who had at least ending cinematics for the characters.

    • @deckofcards87
      @deckofcards87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      VF 2's gameplay mechanics are so dam good. It's pickup and play perfection. I didn't like Tekken 1 and 2 nearly as much. Tekken 3, however...

    • @ocosmosinfinito
      @ocosmosinfinito ปีที่แล้ว +8

      In 1995 these things cost a lot and Sega at the time didn't have time to elaborate their games while seeing their opponents growing.

    • @SaitohYatate
      @SaitohYatate ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think Virtua Fighter is better without flashy cinematic cutscenes or an overarching storyline. That’s what the awesome animated adaptation (and eventually Shenmue) were made for, anyway.
      By having faithful motion capture of real-life martial arts, Virtua Fighter is all about the detail. A fighting game about actual fighting.

    • @jeanjacqueslundi3502
      @jeanjacqueslundi3502 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How can this get 52 likes' Are Tekken fans that self-focused? So, no fighting game without a story is a worthy competitor uh? lol

    • @killerratchet1973
      @killerratchet1973 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@SaitohYatateIt does have a storyline it's just hidden within the game manuals hence the frustration.

  • @LouisBee
    @LouisBee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It always impressed me how not only does Virtua Fighter 2 arguably have better texture work on Sega Saturn but it also runs higher res (704x480) than on Sega Model 2.

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You need to get your eyes checked, the article you’re quoting is wrong. The resolution is much lower on the Saturn

    • @LouisBee
      @LouisBee ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vulcanrush Virtua Fighter 2 on Sega Model 2 Arcade Board - 496x384
      Virtua Fighter 2 on Sega Saturn - 708x480
      I need my eyes checked? You need to pass your grade school maths first.

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว

      @@LouisBee look at the video, it’s self-explanatory

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats on discovering Google, now understand that your source is wrong. Good luck moving out of your parents’ basement.

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LouisBeeread this slowly so you understand: the Saturn’s high-res mode (very much like Tobal on the PlayStation) doesn’t include effects like texture mapping. Once you include special effects like texture mapping, the resolution is degraded. Know what you’re talking about, go pick up a book

  • @DemiGodX
    @DemiGodX ปีที่แล้ว +27

    “Near perfect”

    • @starstarstar4643
      @starstarstar4643 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ok Poindexter

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@starstarstar4643 back to your shift at Popeyes

    • @starstarstar4643
      @starstarstar4643 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vulcanrush k

    • @matics28
      @matics28 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean even near perfect would be stretching it. The arcade version has better 3D models, better textures on the characters as well as surrounding environment, 3D backgrounds, and better colors all around. Is it an amazing port for its time? Sure. is it perfect or near perfect, absolutely not.

  • @AuntieAliasing
    @AuntieAliasing 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This port actually runs at a higher framerate (59.94Hz, in the NTSC-J and NTSC-U releases) than the Model 2 arcade original does at 57.49Hz. The Japan-only 2004 PS2 version accounts for this and even has a 59.94Hz option. Not sure if the 2011-12 emulated releases of Model 2 games on 360 and PS3 account for the hertz differences. Sadly most of them have been delisted this year

  • @alejandroalfonso6545
    @alejandroalfonso6545 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just imagine getting inside an arcade room full of games back in 1994, with that song sounding loud out there. Good old times

  • @DodgaOfficial
    @DodgaOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I wouldn't say it's perfect, the backgrounds being images instead of 3d makes it look kinda odd, but in every other way it is definitely perfect, I actually like some things about the Saturn port more, like the hair on some of the characters looks better on saturn

    • @praystation
      @praystation 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's not. These saturn fanboys can't see that. They forced this hallucination onto themselves to see what they wanted to see.

  • @aspinia
    @aspinia ปีที่แล้ว +7

    if only the fighters megamix looked this good, on that game they sacrificed the polygon capacity making the characters look worse than virtua fighter 2, but despite that fighters megamix was fun to play.

    • @VertexTuner
      @VertexTuner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The real sacrifice wasn't the poly count but the resolution, as Megamix used the Fighting Vipers iteration of the VF2 engine so it could have 3D destructible scenery and the 'armor breaking' system which heavily relied on lowering the resolution for a consistent frame rate. When it comes to raw visual fidelity on the Saturn, only one other fighting games can compare to VF2, Last Bronx.

  • @elemenopio7455
    @elemenopio7455 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Admiral job by Saturn. Animations and gameplay perfect. The lack of actual 3D BG is where this game lacks. The one stage I wanted to see was Shun di’s bridge. Nope it’s on land.

  • @evilblader7
    @evilblader7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Casi no hay mucha diferencia D:
    Increíble...

    • @BitsBeats
      @BitsBeats  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      El Port es fantástico

    • @evilblader7
      @evilblader7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@BitsBeats lastima que es de los casos de consolas que no prosperaron D:

  • @firstcooommment3675
    @firstcooommment3675 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never saw the arcade footage until now. Gotta say it’s pretty damn impressive they had clean graphics like that back then.

  • @zsiles
    @zsiles ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Excellent!

    • @ProfileFb
      @ProfileFb ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @starshine_Ultra
    @starshine_Ultra 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The floor at the background looks like it’s floating at the saturn. Whereas the arcade actually has the floor in 3d

  • @edonslow1456
    @edonslow1456 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can see how much attention they paid to matching the animation and the feel of the arcade. It moves and plays identically.

  • @wonwayTV
    @wonwayTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant porting

  • @wingzero2348
    @wingzero2348 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In my opinion, the beat 3d fighting game ever. This is ridiculous for 1994. Compared to 3d fighters that came out in the late 90s (Tekken 3, Soul Calibre etc)

  • @martin0499
    @martin0499 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Saturn and Dreamcast were arcade beasts, they were definitely made with games like these in mind

  • @lethemeatarss
    @lethemeatarss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This just makes me feel old.

  • @felipek.165
    @felipek.165 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The music is so 90s kof.

  • @miltiadiskoutsokeras9189
    @miltiadiskoutsokeras9189 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is far from perfect but for the specification difference between the machines it is really good.

  • @elmadesininternet4418
    @elmadesininternet4418 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelente port ya lo quiero emular.
    My bro.
    ¿Puedes hacer uno de todos los juegos con la técnica de rotoscopia desde los clásicos hasta el más actual?.

    • @BitsBeats
      @BitsBeats  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me parece una muy buena idea. Seguro la retomo para un vídeo largo

    • @elmadesininternet4418
      @elmadesininternet4418 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BitsBeats Excelente gracias.

  • @feps9555
    @feps9555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maravilhoso port tão incrível quanto a versão arcade tirando mínimos detalhes de estágio mas com ganho em texturas , sonhos e resolução simplesmente o game de luta mais bonito da quinta geração fácil

  • @eldenring9583
    @eldenring9583 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Arcade always win

  • @Ifalvarado
    @Ifalvarado หลายเดือนก่อน

    Taking advantage of the hardware was a real pain and I wonder if earlier games had that luxury with their new tools, will the saturn still exist?

  • @segat-800
    @segat-800 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    An amazing port of a game running on the then state of the art Model 2 arcade board. The Saturn had relatively weak 3D capabilities compared to its competitors so to see AM2 pull off this conversion was nothing short of outstanding.

    • @realamericannegro977
      @realamericannegro977 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Saturn on paper had the best 3d graphics. Vf2 and Last Bronx on a technical level couldnt be touched by its competitors.

  • @m.i.smithology
    @m.i.smithology ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Better port, in fact, the texture is better on the saturn, incredible achievement indeed 😎.

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great achievement, no doubt, but not better, not even close. Much lower resolution, decreased number of polygons, 2D backgrounds instead of full 3D

  • @Scientists_dont_lie
    @Scientists_dont_lie 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I want to play this game so bad man.
    This Game was my favorite fighting game and other than SSF2T, is the only other fighting game I want to be extremely skilled at. I was never highly skilled at this game but I still want to be,

  • @RetroGames4K
    @RetroGames4K 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This game, decathlete, Dead or Alive, exhumed(powersalve in the US) last bronx, etc. You can tell by these games that the saturn was more powerful than the PS1, but by the time the Saturn showed it's power, it was late. If these graphics came out at the beginning of the life of the Sega Saturn, maybe it would've been another story...

  • @CAPCOM784
    @CAPCOM784 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the soundtrack ❤

  • @RaymondKarlVeasey75
    @RaymondKarlVeasey75 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Truly An Amazing Game!

  • @douglarsen4801
    @douglarsen4801 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God I loved VF2. The Naomi detail is apparent though! Time to buy a Saturn again either way!

    • @otaviofer5438
      @otaviofer5438 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Virtua fighter 2 was released as a Sega Model 2 game, not Naomi

  • @timkasansky2528
    @timkasansky2528 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i wonder if they could've used the same trick Namco used for Tekken 3's backgrounds on PS1. Those look closer to their 3D counterparts, but these ones fro VF2 have much more depth and dynamic to them.

    • @VertexTuner
      @VertexTuner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SEGA did greatly improve their use of VDP2 to replicate full 3D backgrounds with the game Last Bronx, which is another stunning and accurate port bordering on 'Arcade Perfect'.

    • @DTM-Books
      @DTM-Books ปีที่แล้ว

      Dead or Alive and Anarchy in the Nippon also do a great job faking the backgrounds with perspective distortion in the illustrations. It’s an old anime trick to fake 3D camera movements and those games really do a terrific job.

  • @AnthonyRiddle
    @AnthonyRiddle 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Saturn version hold its own. I like the fighters faces on the Saturn better, they fit the models better and dont look creepy

  • @taoringo
    @taoringo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leaving aside the number of polygons, couldn't the colors and textures have been better in the Saturn version?

  • @Coyote1099
    @Coyote1099 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sega Saturn was a unicorn back in the day pretty sure they were 600 bucks and this was in the mid 90s my cousin had one the only person I was aware of that had one out of tons of people I knew

  • @hulkjoelperez7877
    @hulkjoelperez7877 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    New Joel from USA Virtua fighter

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      @ProfileFb ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @Khinh-xq6lx
    @Khinh-xq6lx 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    saturn version got swag

  • @legendsflashback
    @legendsflashback ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No overhead bridge like windows version 💡

  • @gamesbugsebesteirol
    @gamesbugsebesteirol ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only arcades had 3D backgrounds at the time? 😅

  • @user-cw9gz1wx3x
    @user-cw9gz1wx3x 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8 bit textures and no dynamic light, but 60fps saved.
    The PC port was still better.

  • @demonology2629
    @demonology2629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did SEGA SATURN justify the ARCADE version? I would say yes, Sega of JAPAN may have spent a lot less more money. But it was just good enough!

  • @RyuJoelPerez
    @RyuJoelPerez 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Joel vs Akira Yuki

  • @2bitcollector707
    @2bitcollector707 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Makes me want to fire up the ole Saturn

  • @ENFDO
    @ENFDO ปีที่แล้ว

    floor and music arcade perfect. What a shame back in 1995 (i bought it in dec 95 of jan 96) i saw it in my tv and felt so disapointed (again). the game played arcade perfect and looked like VF2 but .... when Shun Di Stage i said where is the bridge?????. Nice try for Sega but definetly they could made it better.

  • @terrance3218
    @terrance3218 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this series still active? Don't hear people talk about Virtual Fighter.

  • @6_0u_art
    @6_0u_art ปีที่แล้ว

    Esto tiene que ser ironía

  • @redfoxbennaton
    @redfoxbennaton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Saturn poygon count is smaller

  • @BOBBIE-KEN
    @BOBBIE-KEN ปีที่แล้ว

    They need to remaster VF1

  • @madatyoutoob
    @madatyoutoob 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Perfect? Missing signs, cloud formation... bleached out colors. . And y'all owe me quarters to play!

  • @MechaG
    @MechaG 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It looks like the Saturn port had better textures.

  • @UltimateFarmer007
    @UltimateFarmer007 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why in saturn version shadows aren't and in arcade version shadows ate present? Oh sorry its there but very light so i haven't seen in that in the first place lol

  • @RavenEffect341
    @RavenEffect341 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect? No. Besides texture stuff, stages were different entirely due to weird reasoning. Shun Di’s & Kage’s are noticeably different from the arcade.

  • @derekstamper362
    @derekstamper362 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing can compare to a Saturn

  • @KEYBEATZ
    @KEYBEATZ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very good port but not arcade perfect port (or satin version was missing polygons an objects such as the bridge over water stage, etc)

  • @RockRollerDJ
    @RockRollerDJ ปีที่แล้ว

    Some glitches in emulation

  • @hosseinghanbari3397
    @hosseinghanbari3397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sega is the best
    Lovely sega

  • @yogid1854
    @yogid1854 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Akira Yuki

  • @thewhyzer
    @thewhyzer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ALMOST perfect - worse shadows, and textures when zoomed in. Actually, on closer look, some of the original polygons of the character models have been replaced with textures.
    Everything else looks perfect tho.

  • @elalien9061
    @elalien9061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    no recordaba que salia tao pai pai 😂

  • @fhcc3924
    @fhcc3924 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn

  • @TheLeandronemesis
    @TheLeandronemesis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saturn dont have mip mapping in textures and have lowest resolution!

  • @egg64
    @egg64 ปีที่แล้ว

    A great port but by no means perfect, if Sega had more time to make it, it would be. Now, a great example of a perfect port would be Tekken 2.

    • @vulcanrush
      @vulcanrush ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bizarre the replies from people thinking a $400 home console (at the time) is capable of better performance than a $20,000 arcade system

  • @legendsflashback
    @legendsflashback ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shun stage is horrible on saturn

  • @farremix
    @farremix ปีที่แล้ว

    Das ist nicht perfekt. Die Brücke fehlt und Hintergründe sind nicht 3D

  • @luzmaria1485
    @luzmaria1485 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    El port de saturn tiene mejor calidad de imágen y texturas, siento que los colores chillones de saturn le quitan cierto realismo

  • @TheronGnasher
    @TheronGnasher ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's not a perfect port. You can tell there's differences.

  • @GlennFrog
    @GlennFrog ปีที่แล้ว

    Not perfect but good for it's time.

  • @retro-info-games-1223
    @retro-info-games-1223 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tao pai pai

  • @itiswhatitis141
    @itiswhatitis141 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was not a perfect port. I like my clouds windy, not cloudy

  • @producedbypejota
    @producedbypejota ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So amazing, Tekken 2 sucks vs VF2

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      @ProfileFb ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @SYCZ
    @SYCZ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Daytona was not good.

  • @farremix
    @farremix ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s not perfect!

  • @Lucane1990
    @Lucane1990 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sega Saturn looks ass

  • @kaox44
    @kaox44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nope, not perfect

  • @lazonwilliams4859
    @lazonwilliams4859 ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss my Sega Saturn😢

  • @Psxpirate1
    @Psxpirate1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arcade still looks better.