What's the Best Auto Rifle in Destiny 2?
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What's the best Auto Rifle in Destiny 2? Well, let's take a look at 4 of the best options currently out there. The Summoner (and the Adept Summoner), the Prosecutor, the Positive Outlook, and the Ammit.
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@FalloutPlays do you think cascade point of positive outlook is worth? Theoretically you'd get a kill with another weapon switch to positive outlook and have a 0.48 ttk to tier 3 resilience and above.
Any idea if TTK will change for positive outlook with KC active after 5% nerf?
I still prefer my braytech with dynamic/kc.
Firefright slept on HARD
Quality
Truth
💯 super annoying to fight against doesnt seem super fast but hits like a train
Quiet down, people might catch onto this. Tryna keep it on the down low
These are all energy slot weapons. Conditional Finality pretty important.
If you don't really care about that, yeah, take a look at Firefright, Breakneck, Horror Story, Lethal Abundance, etc.
Og gnawing hunger with zen and kill clip
Hell yeah! Got mine with zen and kill clip with rampage for the second perk in the 4th column. Feels so amazing.
I have Zen with rampage….100 recoil … I love it
Based
I had both I used rampage more then kill clip don't need to reload for the perk to become active
I got a zen kill clip somewhere in my vault, but I also have a zen multikill with 97 reload due to drop mag, I'm pretty salty its multikill but I used to use it for pve in the witch queen before I got a funnyweb
i like false promises, flinches like a fucking drill in the enemies head, zen moment neutralizes flinch for you, dynamic sway makes it a fucking lazer, it is so fun to see everyone panic when they try to 1v1 me, this is the only gun that actually makes people disengage mid gunfight that i use, and it feels so good and is so much fun to use it
Mine is pretty much crit until i miss
Are 100% that it's a drill in the enemies head. I have 3 also 1 with ze moment but my 2700 Cruciable kills is the Hammer forged - Ricochet - Dynamic sway - Unrelenting
Damn I actually have a zen moment DSR False promises. I’ll have to try it out
ugh High Impact auto rifles feel like shit to use though :(
@@adhirg, i usually don't like them too, they jump too much and are more often than not not firing at what you are pointing, however, false promises is compleately different, it is closer to an ammit than a gahlran's left hand or 360 suros
Thanks to this video I remembered I have a positive outlook in my vault. It happens to have hammer forged, ricochet, zen, kill clip, and a range masterwork.
I'm very fond of my Lodbrok-C. Feels nice.
Man, seeing 450s rising up in the meta again is pure nostalgia of Vanilla.
At 6:05 I think you forgot about the origin trait. I think thats why target lock and gutshot are crazy on the prosecutor, because its stacks with that other damage boost, which CAN then lower your ttk more so than id you had the damage boost from the origin trait without target lock and gutshot
this
I got a BrayTech Werewolf with well-rounded and killclip and I run it with strand hunter and use the grapple with Widow’s Silk aspect to get 2 stacks which grant 20 range, stability and handling
Is it curren level?
@@jatochgaatjeniksaan3307 sure is!
Still pissed that it didn't come back with random rolls
Zen+KC Outlook is a BEAST
It is crazy slept on also the reticle is beautiful
thats the roll i want... gotta keep grinding them strikes lol
@@DauntlessZeliousi feel like its insanely clean but suuuppper bouncy
My Horror Story with Under-Over and Target Lock still be slaying among the overshield and auto rifle meta
Sounds amazing
Got surptized by a few horror story users by how horribly fast they killed me
I have one with DS TL with a lot of range and it's very strong. I've posted a ton of vids of me using it.
@@Based_ShogunI was honestly really surprised to see how effective it was. It's just a super consistent roll with dynamic sway and nadir focus
@@miltenburg77guess you could say it was a real Horror story
OG Gnawing Hunger with zen moment and kill clip is my go to, especially on a void hunter build
Firefright with Adagio is VERY underrated, aswell as the old curated roll of the Braytech Werewolf with zen and multikill clip which i know isn’t great but i love it
i like the most the way you explain the perks and comparison with diff guns thats unique and fair
I like the Perpetualis with Zen Moment and Golden Tricorn.
got this roll on my summoner adept it goes
Same, I don't know why it's not more popular because it's literally like a crafted summoner
@@JudgeBreddUK use them both at the same time with handling/fast swap mods and perks and it's 86 rounds of get the f down.
Rufus's fury is absolutely crack right now.
Seventh seraph also has target lock and also has other good mag perks
i think i got a reconstruction and target lock on one
I got a dynamic sway and target lock roll, only the recoil direction is somewhat different, but a nice gun to use
@@jesseheijnen4450 its not bad at all just over shadow'd by other meta choices
I got a positive outlook with dynamic and repulsor. On hunter with gyrfalcons, it gives you a cushion after a volatile kill and with stylish executioner you can chain that kill onto the next with void breeches and devour. There is also Braytech Werewolf that can roll dynamic and kill clip but I got mine with dynamic and under over which really does good vs void titans and warlocks in their rifts.
You mentioned golden tricorn on the summoner, but it's fantastic on positive outlook as well. Scatter grenades make tricorn x2 relatively easy to proc, and the 0.53 TTK extends to all resilience values. Superb AR overall
and the kill chaining bc you dont need to reload with tricorn. i use my zen kc for 6s and zen tricorn for trials and comp. both are beasts tho
Also on prosecutor
I'll always go with tricorn over kill clip, its just far easier to take advantage off and get kills with it passively compared to kill clips very short window in comparison as well as having to actively proc it between kills
.53 ttk??? That's terrabah levels of output with its insane range
I need it
Destabilizing rounds.. Like incandescent but for void. Had a lot of fun in trials with that and my void crayon eater.
Abyss Defiant is my favourite AR - it’s been a beast for me in comp and trials this season.
Age old bond with TTT kill clip is also phenomenal
Poor Tigerspite out here slaying, but can't even get an honourable mention! 😢
The most underrated AR around IMO
Its criminal how its been overlooked, especially since its so easy to get this season.
Outlaw, kill clip goes crazy. Love my roll
80 range EOTS MT roll is pretty cracked.
i have been clutching tigerspite since returning to the game in december. my outlaw/kill clip range MW is so nice. it beams with 87 range
5/5 tigerspite with moving target and kill clip. Thing goes HARD.
Why everybody forgot about horror story 450rpm target lock+dynamic sway reduction literally the best AR in destiny 2!
That... was a lot of target lock talk.
Good call on the kill clip Positive Outlook, I'll try for that.
I just love the scope on positive outlook. Man i miss when we got scope options instead of barrels. >.>
Monte Carlo feels incredibly consistent to use, and has deceptive levels of melee energy gain. If you commit to shooting all the bullets at all of the enemies you can regardless of whether or not you are attempting to score a kill will lead to a cocophany of knives and hammers and lightning bolts.
The white model of the basic appearance is also great for keeping my mind focused on the fight.
Great video. Right now I'm loving my Tigerspite.
Looked to see if i had any of these in my vault before clicking on the video. I was sad because I only had Positive Outlook and Ammit and figured no way is the outlook number one and I couldn't possibly have a good roll. If you only could have seen my face when you said Zen Moment Kill Clip cuz I'll be damned if that roll ain't sitting in my vault right now 😂
Give that baby a spin, it's real good.
If you want to still 6C1B with 450s next update, Sanguine Alchemy, Bakris, Eternal Warrior, Path of Burning Steps, Icefall Mantle, Doomfang Pauldron and Foetracer all will allow them to. Sanguine Alchemy with Empowering Rift allows for 6C all resil.
Been using positive outlook with zen tricorn that had jumps up for me. Think it's the model and sight but it's quick jumped to my favorite auto gor pvp. Also have dragonfly in the second column that I've been meaning to try in trials to see how that goes
Abyss Defiant crafted took me flawless last weekend. Super slept on AR.
I have an adept heal clip+target lock abyss and it slaps
Loving my keepaway, onslaught breakneck, feels so crispy
My Positive Outlook has Corkscrew Rifling, Ricochet Rounds, Surplus, and Golden Tricorn with a range masterwork. 34 meters of range, 100 stability, 100 handling, and 100 reload when all abilities are up with a 7-second damage perk on kill. It essentially ignores flinch.This gun is absurd with the right setup.
You wanna see "ignores flinch" get Zen Moment on that puppy. Gun's incredible, though. I have a TTT/Tricorn roll and a Zen/KC roll and both slap.
@@life-destiny1196 I did get the Zen Moment and Kill Clip roll recently. Just need to take it out for a spin.
I love surplus only one I got so far is a surplus dragonfly but I'm still looking for a damage perk on #4
as a 450 main i farmed nightfalls and strikes for this thing all season when it dropped ignoring all other content and in that time got every possible roll. I still even now have 12 masterworked rolls in my vault given there are so amny rolls which feel so good on positive outlook.
That roll you have I have the exact same one 5/5 and it became my best roll, even over other rolls including zen/killclip
zen/ele cap
zen/tricorn
ttt/tricorn
etc etc
None of y'all talked about Steelfeather repeater when it was around and it shows. That thing was such a beauty both to look at and shoot with.
I decided to also break out a positive outlook look as well after too many nightfalls and got zen golden tricorn and have been loving it. Got 2 we ran in ironbanner and I’m not someone who can usually do that.
I just tried out flared/tunnel vision/kill clip Positive Outlook for the first time and that thing did WORK. I'd like a better barrel and MW but still felt great to use.
As a guy that loves strikes and normally has 4 resets a season, LOVING how good positive outlook is in pvp now
For the pve side if things positive outlook is definitely good for add clear with ambitious assassin paired with destablizing rounds. A bigger magazine plus void explosions.
It was also my PVE go to with gryfalcons, although mine was zen / destabilizing (AA sounds better though) Ive only recently this season replaced it as got a repulsor brace / onslaught Ros arago
Positive Outlook is cool and all but Prosecutor has that super clean sight picture and also has Zen Moment/ Tap the Trigger in separate columns so you can get the ultimate dueling roll on it. Zen essentially makes you unflinchable while Taps benefits last almost the entirety of your TTK (i think 1 bullet doesn't get the benefit). Targetlock is resil gated and only really adds up to a consistency perk most of the time, so why not just go with an actual consistency perk that doesn't care if you miss one shot? You can also get this roll on Summoner but after using both the Prosecutor feels better with it.
i will never understand how people can like the prosecutor scope more than the outlook scope. That comparisson shouldnt even be close in my opinion :D outlook is just so much better. and at least on mnk with zen both guns do not move in a gunfight so i want a damage perk in the 4th colomn
I have a tunnel vision , KC roll and love it! I just got a zen moment , golden tricorn. What do you prefer? You said you would rather GT on the summoner over KC. Just wondering if you feel similar on the Positive Outlook, great Vid bro keep em coming!!
I’ve got a Braytech from years ago with tap the trigger under pressure, feels like a dream and I regularly prefer it over my gnawing hunger and summoner
great video! I was today years old when I realized you could focus a positive outlook.
Partway through the season it came out (or maybe at the start, I forget), they dropped a change where you could focus the most recent Vanguard/Crucible/Gambit weapon, where previously they became focusable on a one-season delay. You bet I rolled a ton of those rifles hah
Braytech werewolf is amazing aswell been one of my go-too auto's for PVP aswell Firefright
My go to is the breakneck from gambit dynamic sway and tap the trigger.
I’ve been using the positive outlook for a long while , even tho in the stats it says it has low target acquisition , it doesn’t feel like it
mr. out i give this comparison a strong 9 to a 10
I've been using moving target tap the trigger rufus's for a couple weeks and I fucking love it
another one of my most used Autos is a crafted rufus fury with enhanced perpetual and enhanced tap the trigger super consistent and i basically use it as an smg with a huge mag
I got so many PvP GOD roles with Positive Outlook in my vault from using up Vanguard engrams and never ever fired one of them because I just find myself using certain weapons most often. Maybe I need too.
Trying gutshot on ammit, helping me a lot, got a prosecuter with zen moment + target lock and loving it. Time to give my ammit incandescence again 😅
Rapid pulses have been feeling pretty nice especially scalar potential:)
Horror Story sheds a tear
Ive been rockin the lethal abundance with slice and target lock on strand hunter. Mostly building into sever.
Ive always liked Chroma Rush, got mine with subsistence and rampage for a lot of bullet hosing and a lot of damage
target lock is so bait. tap the trigger or golden tricorn are such better picks
+1. The difference between a headshot and a bodyshot on Summoner is 11.66 damage. Would you rather have a perk that makes hitting those headshots more consistent, or a perk that gives you like 9 damage?
Mind you, if you have other damage buffs you're planning on using, take a look at d2foundry because Target Lock might be right for you; but at base I'd rather just take a followup kill perk like Kill Clip or Tricorn. I probably already have enough forgiveness from Zen Moment anyway.
@@life-destiny1196summoner already beams without a stability perk. As long as you have ricochet rounds you’re golden. In trials, summoner vs summoner, the guy with Target Lock wins more often than not, in my experience. My favorite summoner rolls are Heal Clip Kill Clip for 6s and Heal Clip Target Lock for Trials.
would you say ricochet rounds are a must have? or would high cal/ armor piercing or even random mags still do the job?
@@JetEye-Knight
@@Puncils any of those will work but ricochet rounds is the most stable
This video needed to be made
Tigerspite with kill clip goes crazy too!
i use positive outlook with those void munitions and my void hunter with graviton forfeit. Getting invisible all the time, healing faster and recharging the super with ease.
if you play on controller then tunnel vision on the positive outlook makes it so you can never miss a headshot after you reload after a kill and can be paired with kill clip....
It does that on MnK, too. Definitely try Zen Moment, though, which also makes it way easier to hit shots.
Rufus, me use moving target & tap the trigger.
When I use it, I pair it with both harmonic weapons a.k.a. shotgun (awesome slug btw (12m)) & GL or Linear w/e it's heavy fuk it.
But 100 Range & handling on that shotty feels great with a snappy accurate bullet hose like Rufus.
Herod c with max range and dynamic sway reduction and tap the trigger is a laser that maps at 39m. caught a few guardians with the range alone head taps at 40m out is crazy
I do pretty well with my crafted FTTC/Adagio Firefright, but Cerberus+1 is still my favorite Crucible autorifle workhorse. It never feels particularly amazing in a direct comparison to other weapons, but the ease of use still makes it viable for lazy players like me.
I'm glad people are finally catching on to how good Positive Outlook is. It's been "better Ammit" this whole time, but because Ammit is trivially easy to get it's gotten all the attention.
Anyway, my goal is to get a few dozen more kills on it before Luna's Howl drops and I just main that forever
What are you gonna go for luna? I am going with eye of the storm an precision hit intrusment
Ive been using it for a long time. I don't even have a God roll. It's just feels so good.
It's only better ammit if you get zen moment to remove the shakiness of the reticle bro.
@@theveryamericaneagle3657slideshot magnificent howl for me
@@fotis3v480 you dont 'need' zen on it. with its perk pool you can go with other rolls to boost stability which also makes it feel nice. things such as surplus and ele cap along side the omolon fluids can have you sit at 100 stability for the top half of the mag making it a constant laser beam
my only role I got randomly of positive outlook was a dynamic sway/kill clip roll.
I have grind for positive outlook once it was reintroduced back into the game. I have a few awesome rolls. My current one for PVP has tunnel vision and kill clip. Yes it is that good. 👍🏾
Same, as a 450 main I spent all that season grinding out crappy nightfalls and strikes getting this to drop lol. I still even now after cleaning vault have 9 (just counted) masterworked rolls as all so good. my current pvp goto for PO is surplus / tricorn 86 range and 100 stability at top half of magazine and 100 handling and reload
Don't forget my favorite and constantly overlooked Gnawing Hunger (especially with a Zen Moment/Kill Clip combo). I was giving Summoners a run for their money last week during Trials with mine. Unfortunately, while doing Vault cleaning last night, I accidently scrapped mine... so now I've got to do some shopping with Gambit emgrams for a new one.
I don’t think You can get gnawing hunger from gambit anymore
@@Foldgish Through focused Gambit emgrams, rare DOE drops, and Banshee if he's remembering to be generous.
currently sitting a prosecutor with smallbore, armor piercing, keepaway, targetlock, and handling. I would prefer ricochet or high cal rounds, and a stability MW - as keep away+origin gives 95 range. I'd give up smallbore+counterblance for arrowhead + target adjuster, but that's just splitting hairs.
Breakneck with Dynamic Sway and Target Lock is actually slept on.
Breakneck with t-lock outperforms the summoners and prosecutors.. they just haven't discovered it yet.
Last week was a good time to farm Breakneck DS and Keep away with TL feel good. Also the Gnawing Hunger with zen moment and KC is at the Drifters shop - It is a laser!
Ew Gambit.
i do enjoy some gambit gaming from time to time but man getting that roll can take months
@@ixodesricinus3001 Try it next time when it's double XP. Otherwise it's really boring and slow...
breakneck with encore and onslaught hit hard too my person choice
As an AR main since the SMG nerfs, much appreciate this vid.
Tigerspite with kill clip is overlooked. That’s my favorite kinetic auto.
Firefright and Perpetualis also kinda slap rn too. Golden Tricorn with Killing wind perpetualis has like negative recoil and high damage potential
breakneck with zen moment adagio my fav
the stock 450 halloween auto is slept on btw. 450 with 94 range, zen moment and multi kill clip
I have zen moment golden tricorn on my old Summoner and love it
On ps5 I have a very different opinion on ranking with adept summoner dead last (due to range) and muzzle flash / kick / crappy scope.
Prosecutor is #1 with zen and target lock for dueling or tricorn for 6’s.
Positive Outlook is #2 with zen + kc. I use that in 6’s.
#3 Ammit is great for good range and just a solid dueler with no frills. (Enhanced ttt and enhanced dsr.)
Those numbers were so scary I'm still holding onto Fallouts hand, I'm not ready to let go.
love me some auto rifles!!! great video
Prosecutor with zen golden tricorn feels crazy good. I can chain kills together winning gunfight after gunfight
I've been using Horror Story paired with Mask of Bakris
Yay! Positive Outlook gets a shout-out!
The last breath and braytech werewolf should be honerable mentions. They feel quite good
Honestly the khvostov feels really good for having no perks at all since it's a 600rpm rifle
Held my positive outlook for like 3 to 5 seasons and now its moment has finally come
feels longer but this it's only been out three seasons lol (does feel A LOT longer though)
@@papaspaulding well, yeah, of course it feels longer, we're in the back 1/3 or so of a double-length season. It was good even the season it dropped tbh, just everyone hyperfocused on Ammit because easiest gun in the game to get
@@life-destiny1196 Yup, it was always good, as a long time AR main (mostly 450's) it's always funny when everyone now and then "omg 450's are so good right now" lol they have ALWAYS been good. The slight tiny buffs they have had here and there haven't changed them in anyway. It's just that people get them out the vault when hearing of a buff, play with then realise how strong they can be then but it down to timing / buffs.
I farmed positive outlook all that season it dropped. at the start of the season as soon as i saw in collections a 'new' 450 I spent all that season grinding annoying nightfalls and strikes, simply as PO is that good a weapon.
Same as ammit, when it came out on release of witch queen it was always good then, people just chose to sleep on it because their favourite youtubers tell them auto rifles are no good lol
I missed out on Presecutor as I never did the dungeon- did it a couple times now and it’s like…super easy😅, now I know. Will be farming next week as well as some IB for the SMG/GL
As a general rule, the older dungeons are easier as they were tuned around a level of power creep that we have since exceeded. IMO they don't start getting too tricky until roughly TWQ; in fact the first time I tried Pit of Heresy in particular, the only reason I didn't flawless was because I forgot how Chamber of Suffering worked.
I grinded my positive outlook when it was a 1 engram drop. Knew it was gonna be good. Great for pvp and pve (void hunter)
Making everything 3 engrams was so unessasary you have to play SO much
Not really much talk about Braytech Werewolf, but it's slept on as well Compulsive Reloader/ Kill Clip with a range of 94 is damn good. Recoil is easily manageable.
one of my very first positive outlooks has corkscrew light mag zen kill clip and its SLAPS addition im also a chronic reloader so omolon fluid dynamics makes my bad habit a little less punishing at bad moments
would be really nice to know the ttk difference of prosecutor with enhanced TL or enhanced gutshot/TL after the april 9th update, assuming they dont touch ARs when the final shape drops
I have been using horror story ever since it got reissued and it just feels amazing
Not really for PvP but for PvE, I use Gnawing Hunger with drop mag. If you have Ophidian Aspect, reload speed is ABSURD and I love it. I know it's not a meta weapon but that was one of my first weapon and it really grew on me.
Definitely give Ros Arago a go if you can get your hands on a good one! Gnawing Hunger definitely holds up better than a lot of other guns its age, from what I hear anyway (you can't strip Positive Outlook from my hands if I wanna main an auto rifle right now, we'll see how long that holds true)
Braytech needs to be on here. I have one with Dynamic Sway/KC and it slays out.
Seventh Seraph SpaceK-47 is extremely underrated too
*making mental note to focus Positive Outlook*
The seven seraph ar with target lock and reconstruction is insane
Tiger spite feels really good still too
Gnawing hunger; arrowhead break, drop mag, tap the trigger, kill clip, handling masterwork.
My favorite auto of all time and it slaps in this meta
Totallly slaaaaaaaaps broooooooooo
It's hard to get a decent one but I love my Arc Logic right now
I think the sorrows verse is kind of slept on. It has better base range and aim assist out the box over summoner and the suros original perk turns it into an anti flinch laser beam after a reload.