Slavery was abolished in the British Empire in 1807, so no the Crawleys in this era were not receiving income from that. And Julian Fellows, Baron Fellows of West Stafford, grew up in this environment so he is very qualified to know how staff and family interacted.
You cannot deny that the generational wealth that supported the aristocracy included money made from slavery. That slavery was not practiced by the time period of 'Downton Abbey' does not mean that the family's wealth had not been earned from slavery.
@Kate Hobbs Fellows didn’t grow up during the Edwardian Era. He wasn’t born until 1949. There was a huge shift in society and the way the great houses and servitude was run after WWII.
@@seikibrian8641 same as in America. A lot of wealthy families "old money" is traced back to slavery. Even if it was used to educate those who went on and started other industries outside of slavery
What make the show so entertaining is the fact every character has virtues and vices. Nobody is perfect. Like in real life. I love the fact that no matter what character does she or he , is always forgiven by the rest. Every character has a second and more chances to rectify himself or herself . It Is a positive show. There is drama but not to the point of adding more stress to our own life. To see the show is a relaxing time in the day. True or not the story in the series is my favourite one.
I noticed that too. Everyone has a good and bad side, and they are all forgiving towards each other, I mean... the majority of them, not including Mr. Bates' ex wife.
Saw this magnificent film today. I even cried at different points, I must say I liked it so much I’m going again to see it a second time with a friend. This was wholesome entertainment, gorgeous costumes, terrific acting and scenes, can’t say enough about it, go and see for yourself….become a Downton Abbey fan. ❤️🍷🌹💐🍷❤️
Your comment about slavery is partly inaccurate. We do not know whether the Crawleys had properties in the colonies and therefore owned slaves. Without property in the colonies, there would not have been reparations for the abolition of slavery. Slave traders did not get reparation, if the Crawleys had shares in ships they might have indirectly benefitted from slave trades but they would not have got any money when the slave trade was abolished.
Mistakes imply Julian didn't know. Deliberate choices is another thing all together. It's actually what makes those parts interesting. Edith being shunned? Predictable and uninteresting. Tom being banished? Predictable and uninteresting. Literally every example is just pointing out how Julian used juxtaposition to add interest. The man knows more about Victorian and Edwardian history than all of us. He made choices to create interest. Please do Bridgerton next. I can't WAIT for your bombshell reveals. 🙄
And, both the Victorian and Edwardian periods were over by the time the first episode takes place in 1912, and why didn't Movie Addicts mention Bagshot's illegitimate daughter too?
Yes, I agree about the storyline of Thomas Barrow. It's dishonest that most of the staff and the Crawley family were supportive of him. That would not have happened in the early 20th century.
Well, it is not like they are running around telling him it is okay... they are not supportive, they just protect him from the police, still finding it sick and wrong. They just don´t want to see him in prison AND they don´t want to damage the Crawley name.
Well, Downton Abbey was not meant as a documentary TV show but for entertainment only. Of course there are inaccuracies and it is nice to be made aware of these. But on the other hand if these inaccuracies wouldn't have been in, Downton would probably not been the success it was. But thanks for explaining them, it is interesting to know and learn.
Slave trade? Did the ancestors of Crawleys own a plantation in the American South or the Caribbean? And by the 1920s, I doubt the Crawleys were benefiting from slavery in any form even IF the ancestors had slaves. And one thing I did note during the movie was how almost everyone had aged, even since the last film.
One of the things making Downtown so popular is that they did NOT always conform to the norm for that time. I suspect that there were occasional families back then that did their own thing and did not always conform. So from that angle, the series is realistic.
Marriage was not permitted by household staff? Hmmmm. If that's the case, then I shouldn't be here. My grandmother started in private service as a kitchen maid (Daisy) and my grandfather was a footman (William). They married, had my father and lived in a country house before my grandfather died in 1935.
Of course there are- - but Tom was shown to be a practicing Catholic-- a Catholic marrying a Protestant at that time was almost impossible (but just barely possible)- and the Catholic and partner had to swear any children would be brought up in the Catholic faith- . These marriages were called 'Mixed Marriages' and very much frowned upon- it just could NOT have happened with anyone like Tom- Miss Smith would have had to convert to Catholicism rather than Tom being married in a Protestant church.- If at all happening, a Catholic priest would have had to be present at the Protestant ceremony- as I said NOT IMPOSSIBLE but certainly not happening as portrayed in NEW ERA. Definitely a major if not the biggest mistake.. @@bill90405
@@marthamargaretemaclean593 gook remark, but... it was already the case with Lady Sibyl (the only marraige not showed during the serie), and a great debate followed because he wanted lady Sibbie being christened as catholic whereas Robert wanted her to be anglican. Because they may be all anglican, don't they?
I realize that for most families and their servants these roles were followed I can’t believe that sometimes exceptions were made in order to form alliances between servants and their families for protection of both. That is currently human nature
Agree that I cannot see that a servant would be allowed to marry into the family - no way! They would have been outcast for the rest of their days and in this case the chauffeur would have been dismissed. Also two servants would never be allowed to marry - if they did they would have to leave service, then find it hard to make a living. Children born out of wedlock would be brought up by servants - usually people like Blacksmiths who lived miles away. Homosexuality was strictly illegal back then, therefore it would never be spoken of, let alone to the family that employed you. Servants became servants because their own families couldn't afford to feed all their children. Servants were actually grateful to have a job, food and a roof over their heads in preference to rank poverty and starvation. There were no welfare services until the reign of Edward VII. Besides all that would be correct - it is a marvellous series and I for one enjoyed every minute of it.
There are many stories, novels and films, that record servants marrying into the upper class family. If it could not possibly happen it is certainly something that makes a good story. Servants did marry, in other stories servants are often husband and wife, such as housekeeper and butler or house keeper and a man who works out doors. As long as they were the same level because there were levels in the servants also.
I recall Dowager saying she was an Edwardian but she would have actually been in her adolescence adult and middle age during the Victorian era. I always assumed she was in her 70's during the series and early 80's during the filming of these last two movies. With Sybil dying at 23 I assumed Cora was early 40's during the series and Robert late 40's early 50's.
Since she talks about being a young adult in the 1860s, she had to have been born in the 1840s. That means Violet was in her 70s when the series started - seems to work.
Interesting comparison of the events in Downton Abbey with real life, but it is a fictional story and the good messages have done us all good... Real life dramas are enough!!!
Julian Fellows is intimately familiar with all the realities of many great houses and families. I trust his story choices. He gives us a glimpse of what really happens behind the manor doors. I am guessing that the writer of this video does not have the same kind of access to the people, places, families, diaries, stories etc. as Julian Fellows.
True, Fellowes is up close but DA is also pretty close to being a remake of the original 1971 Upstairs Downstairs series with nearly identical story lines. Upstairs Downstairs is a much better watch.
@@diydiva3190 I loved USDS. Actually, DA was a takeoff on Gosford Park which was also similar to USDS. Julian Fellows wrote Gosford Park and Maggie Smith starred in it. The actor who played the dowager's butler also played a downstairs role in Gosford. As far as a favorite, I have to go with the most recently produced versions for the best visuals and sound. So I like the most recent USDS, DA movies and the remake of Poldark.
Dear Movie Addicts: Downton Abbey is fiction, not a documentary. Don't expect story lines about slaves, child labor etc. Re Edith's illegitimate daughter, my great grandmother took her daughter's illegitimate son as her own. They went away together for the birth. This was in 1880!
There are always exception to the "rules". Things don't change in history over night so I can believe there were these things did or could have happened in a family. If not, how in the world did we end up the way we are today? Gradually, like a frog in cool water with the heat turned on gradually the he boiled to death, just ssying.
One mistake that surprised me in the earlier series was the scene where Robert was brushing Cora's hair, as she sat at her dressing table, with a rectangular clothes brush, instead of a hairbrush with a handle. The actors, if not the props person, should have known the difference.
I’ve been watching dancing at the abbey for a long time I’ve been watching every program they’ve just announced that it is gone to the cinemas and I can’t get out to watch that will it come on DVD or on TH-cam or Netflix I can watch this new film because I’ve never missed one yet and I love it it is possible could you let me know thank you I hope so thank you very much let me know I’m on your programs thank
I would've written Tom and Guy's scene differently...Tom: "Are you making advances?" Guy: "Does this look like I'm acting?" He pulls him in and they kiss.
What about how Johnny Bates, Jr. went back into time age-wise and was clearly two different children!! And we never saw him playing with the other children, despite the fact that Mary promised he would the night he was born!
This is small détails. Carson had the palsy in season 6 . But was fine 3 years later . Never better . Thomas liked the kids and loved the place and his friends. Happily ? He ends up with an old actor he doesn't even know who will pay him for " services" and can fire him at will . Nevermind his former employers why are his friends OK with him abandoning everything for a dubious old guy
THIRD MOVIE Thomas indeed found someone he could serve & other....... He returns to Downton Abbey just after the Great Depression. His love interest has been killed in a car crash.plane crash.train crash.stockmarket crash. Barrow can never be happy in love. Left pennyless He takes up the position vacated due to ill health by Carson. Carson dies...Lady Mary cries. Downton maybe lost because of new death taxes... Barrow sees a notice in the paper from His deceased lovers lawyers.....first seen by Daisy. He contacts them & they inform him of a substantial inheritance. Having lived the life of vast wealth before in Hollywood & not finding it to His liking or personal benefit He offers the money to Lady Mary for the death taxes to save Downton Abbey, the Staff & the Village. FOURTH MOVIE Master George Goes To War.................
I doubt that people watching this show are looking for strict historical accuracy. If they wanted that, they could just watch documentaries about the time period.
THIRD MOVIE Thomas indeed found someone he could serve & other....... He returns to Downton Abbey just after the Great Depression. His love interest has been killed in a car crash.plane crash.train crash.stockmarket crash. Barrow can never be happy in love. Left pennyless He takes up the position vacated due to ill health by Carson. Carson dies...Lady Mary cries. Downton maybe lost because of new death taxes... Barrow sees a notice in the paper from His deceased lovers lawyers.....first seen by Daisy. He contacts them & they inform him of a substantial inheritance. Having lived the life of vast wealth before in Hollywood & not finding it to His liking or personal benefit He offers the money to Lady Mary for the death taxes to save Downton Abbey, the Staff & the Village. FOURTH MOVIE Master George Goes To War.................
Johnny Jr is his Batman and we come full circle. We pan out to Johnny Jr and George sipping on a cocktail in the library surrounded by their children and grandchildren. And that’s how the movie ends.
El vídeo precioso,pero deberías de explicarlo más lentamente, no tan rápido, para así disfrutar de las imágenes que acompañan cada explicación. No te da tiempo a seguir las dos cosas a la vez.Muchas gracias.
I agree. I pause to complain about the great Maggie Smith's acting, but she didn't seem the slightest out of breath or weak or any indication at all that she was about to die. Then suddenly she's dead. That seemed preposterous to me. Agreed, the diagnosis was never given. Just weird.
She talks about her illness to Mary during a the ball at Harewood house and it takes some monthes untill her death. She says "i'll be fine until I'm not". And that happens. Perhaps some hear weakness due to old age...
The reason why they had no problem with Atticus's Jewish ancestry was explained clearly. Cora's family was also Jewish. So whatever adjustment the Crawlies had to make to accept that, they made that adjustment a LONG time ago.
We still think that the character playing the actor in the movie sure looked like Douglas Fairbanks who married Mary Pickford. They had a child Douglas Fairbanks Jr. It was his parents who were pictured with sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
I don't think we have to worry about if this story is real b/c it isn't so on these types of stories, history is virtually never close to reality. I like the movies and the t.v. series. It's just a story folks.
Because with their "history", they would not have been profiting from the slave trade (in the 20th century no less!). Lord Grantham had run out of money to keep up the estate--and keep the village employed and housed--not to mention with land to feed themselves. He therefore went across the pond to find what was known as one of "The million dollar princesses". Who happened to have been Jewish. So, there was no money coming in from the slave trade. And Atticus was welcomed into the family as Cora's father was Jewish--something mentioned often throughout. They weren't just "woke" for their time. And let's not forget that "buggery" was illegal until 1967 in Britain!
Oh no! You mean it's FICTIONAL? If it had "stayed true to history", if would have been a very dull movie! I don't give a rats arse about the inaccuracies... it's entertaining and THAT is what matters! I mean, it's not like teachers will now be showing the show and movies to their students as shining examples of Edwardian/early 20th century historical facts! (unless it's at a fashion institute!)
Who cares. It's a nice, warm series and movie. At least they are mostly accurate which cannot be said about a lot of so called historical stories like Reign.
Apart from what you pointed out in your video, there are a lot more mistakes from my point of view, but one really bugs me a lot: the incoherent and even childish and absurd behaviour of the characters!! I agree that this is probably a writer's rule, cause when characters are behaving so erratical then the plot is more "interesting", but at some point it gets annoying! I loved the show because of the actors and the production, but really the script is rather predictable and childish. Julian Fellowes might have written something with more coherence and maturity (as in Robert Altman's "Gosford Park" script which is far better written and developed than DA) and it is a pity that he didn't get to that level anymore with all his experience and talent.
Ahhhh. . . . Cora Crawley is Jewish. Thus, Robert Crawley, not Rose, is the first (that we know of), to marry a Jew. (Unless, marrying a Jewish man doesn't mean the same, culturally speaking, as marrying a Jewish woman.)
Marriage was not permitted by household staff? Hmmmm. If that's the case, then I shouldn't be here. My grandmother started in private service as a kitchen maid (Daisy) and my grandfather was a footman (William). They married, had my father and lived in a country house before my grandfather died in 1935.
Well I suppose that it means that household women just had to leave service when then got married? I cannot imagine all these servants staying single (even if Carson and Mrs Hugues seems to be following this rule, being of old generation). Did your grand parents both stayed at their position after mariage?
Slavery was abolished in the British Empire in 1807, so no the Crawleys in this era were not receiving income from that. And Julian Fellows, Baron Fellows of West Stafford, grew up in this environment so he is very qualified to know how staff and family interacted.
You cannot deny that the generational wealth that supported the aristocracy included money made from slavery. That slavery was not practiced by the time period of 'Downton Abbey' does not mean that the family's wealth had not been earned from slavery.
@Kate Hobbs Fellows didn’t grow up during the Edwardian Era. He wasn’t born until 1949. There was a huge shift in society and the way the great houses and servitude was run after WWII.
@@seikibrian8641 same as in America. A lot of wealthy families "old money" is traced back to slavery. Even if it was used to educate those who went on and started other industries outside of slavery
What make the show so entertaining is the fact every character has virtues and vices. Nobody is perfect. Like in real life. I love the fact that no matter what character does she or he , is always forgiven by the rest. Every character has a second and more chances to rectify himself or herself .
It Is a positive show. There is drama but not to the point of adding more stress to our own life. To see the show is a relaxing time in the day.
True or not the story in the series is my favourite one.
I noticed that too. Everyone has a good and bad side, and they are all forgiving towards each other, I mean... the majority of them, not including Mr. Bates' ex wife.
Saw this magnificent film today. I even cried at different points, I must say I liked it so much I’m going again to see it a second time with a friend.
This was wholesome entertainment, gorgeous costumes, terrific acting and scenes, can’t say enough about it, go and see for yourself….become a Downton Abbey fan. ❤️🍷🌹💐🍷❤️
Downton Abby what a Greate Show I'm still watching it on Netflix almost every day, Thanks for making it possible to see it many times over it.
Your comment about slavery is partly inaccurate. We do not know whether the Crawleys had properties in the colonies and therefore owned slaves. Without property in the colonies, there would not have been reparations for the abolition of slavery. Slave traders did not get reparation, if the Crawleys had shares in ships they might have indirectly benefitted from slave trades but they would not have got any money when the slave trade was abolished.
Mistakes imply Julian didn't know. Deliberate choices is another thing all together. It's actually what makes those parts interesting. Edith being shunned? Predictable and uninteresting. Tom being banished? Predictable and uninteresting. Literally every example is just pointing out how Julian used juxtaposition to add interest. The man knows more about Victorian and Edwardian history than all of us. He made choices to create interest. Please do Bridgerton next. I can't WAIT for your bombshell reveals. 🙄
And, both the Victorian and Edwardian periods were over by the time the first episode takes place in 1912, and why didn't Movie Addicts mention Bagshot's illegitimate daughter too?
@@genechintala2147 he did but called her a "maid".
Yes, I agree about the storyline of Thomas Barrow. It's dishonest that most of the staff and the Crawley family were supportive of him. That would not have happened in the early 20th century.
Well, it is not like they are running around telling him it is okay... they are not supportive, they just protect him from the police, still finding it sick and wrong. They just don´t want to see him in prison AND they don´t want to damage the Crawley name.
People don’t care. All that’s wanted is a good movie with joy. That’s what The Downton Abbey series and the first movie film were.
Well, Downton Abbey was not meant as a documentary TV show but for entertainment only. Of course there are inaccuracies and it is nice to be made aware of these. But on the other hand if these inaccuracies wouldn't have been in, Downton would probably not been the success it was.
But thanks for explaining them, it is interesting to know and learn.
Slave trade? Did the ancestors of Crawleys own a plantation in the American South or the Caribbean? And by the 1920s, I doubt the Crawleys were benefiting from slavery in any form even IF the ancestors had slaves. And one thing I did note during the movie was how almost everyone had aged, even since the last film.
One of the things making Downtown so popular is that they did NOT always conform to the norm for that time. I suspect that there were occasional families back then that did their own thing and did not always conform. So from that angle, the series is realistic.
Downton not Downtown
Marriage was not permitted by household staff? Hmmmm. If that's the case, then I shouldn't be here. My grandmother started in private service as a kitchen maid (Daisy) and my grandfather was a footman (William). They married, had my father and lived in a country house before my grandfather died in 1935.
A major mikstake is Tom getting married in a Protestant church- IMPOSSIBLE for a practicing catholic at that time.
There are Protestants in Ireland.
Of course there are- - but Tom was shown to be a practicing Catholic-- a Catholic marrying a Protestant at that time was almost impossible (but just barely possible)- and the Catholic and partner had to swear any children would be brought up in the Catholic faith- . These marriages were called 'Mixed Marriages' and very much frowned upon- it just could NOT have happened with anyone like Tom- Miss Smith would have had to convert to Catholicism rather than Tom being married in a Protestant church.- If at all happening, a Catholic priest would have had to be present at the Protestant ceremony- as I said NOT IMPOSSIBLE but certainly not happening as portrayed in NEW ERA. Definitely a major if not the biggest mistake.. @@bill90405
@@bill90405 irish protestants were not fighting for irish independence
@@marthamargaretemaclean593 gook remark, but... it was already the case with Lady Sibyl (the only marraige not showed during the serie), and a great debate followed because he wanted lady Sibbie being christened as catholic whereas Robert wanted her to be anglican. Because they may be all anglican, don't they?
I realize that for most families and their servants these roles were followed I can’t believe that sometimes exceptions were made in order to form alliances between servants and their families for protection of both. That is currently human nature
Agree that I cannot see that a servant would be allowed to marry into the family - no way! They would have been outcast for the rest of their days and in this case the
chauffeur would have been dismissed. Also two servants would never be allowed to marry - if they did they would have to leave service, then find it hard to make a living. Children born out of wedlock would be brought up by servants - usually people like Blacksmiths who lived miles away. Homosexuality was strictly illegal back then, therefore it would never be spoken of, let alone to the family that employed you. Servants became servants because their own families couldn't afford to feed all their children. Servants were actually grateful to have a job, food and a roof over their heads in preference to rank poverty and starvation. There were no welfare services until the reign of Edward VII. Besides all that would be correct - it is a marvellous series and I for one enjoyed every minute of it.
There are many stories, novels and films, that record servants marrying into the upper class family. If it could not possibly happen it is certainly something that makes a good story. Servants did marry, in other stories servants are often husband and wife, such as housekeeper and butler or house keeper and a man who works out doors. As long as they were the same level because there were levels in the servants also.
I recall Dowager saying she was an Edwardian but she would have actually been in her adolescence adult and middle age during the Victorian era. I always assumed she was in her 70's during the series and early 80's during the filming of these last two movies. With Sybil dying at 23 I assumed Cora was early 40's during the series and Robert late 40's early 50's.
Since she talks about being a young adult in the 1860s, she had to have been born in the 1840s. That means Violet was in her 70s when the series started - seems to work.
Interesting comparison of the events in Downton Abbey with real life, but it is a fictional story and the good messages have done us all good...
Real life dramas are enough!!!
Julian Fellows is intimately familiar with all the realities of many great houses and families. I trust his story choices. He gives us a glimpse of what really happens behind the manor doors. I am guessing that the writer of this video does not have the same kind of access to the people, places, families, diaries, stories etc. as Julian Fellows.
True, Fellowes is up close but DA is also pretty close to being a remake of the original 1971 Upstairs Downstairs series with nearly identical story lines. Upstairs Downstairs is a much better watch.
@@diydiva3190 I loved USDS. Actually, DA was a takeoff on Gosford Park which was also similar to USDS. Julian Fellows wrote Gosford Park and Maggie Smith starred in it. The actor who played the dowager's butler also played a downstairs role in Gosford. As far as a favorite, I have to go with the most recently produced versions for the best visuals and sound. So I like the most recent USDS, DA movies and the remake of Poldark.
Dear Movie Addicts: Downton Abbey is fiction, not a documentary. Don't expect story lines about slaves, child labor etc. Re Edith's illegitimate daughter, my great grandmother took her daughter's illegitimate son as her own. They went away together for the birth. This was in 1880!
I know :)
Um...it's always been set in the 20th century. You might be confused with it being set in the 1920s.
There are always exception to the "rules". Things don't change in history over night so I can believe there were these things did or could have happened in a family. If not, how in the world did we end up the way we are today? Gradually, like a frog in cool water with the heat turned on gradually the he boiled to death, just ssying.
One mistake that surprised me in the earlier series was the scene where Robert was brushing Cora's hair, as she sat at her dressing table, with a rectangular clothes brush, instead of a hairbrush with a handle. The actors, if not the props person, should have known the difference.
I’ve been watching dancing at the abbey for a long time I’ve been watching every program they’ve just announced that it is gone to the cinemas and I can’t get out to watch that will it come on DVD or on TH-cam or Netflix I can watch this new film because I’ve never missed one yet and I love it it is possible could you let me know thank you I hope so thank you very much let me know I’m on your programs thank
We will :)
I would've written Tom and Guy's scene differently...Tom: "Are you making advances?" Guy: "Does this look like I'm acting?" He pulls him in and they kiss.
What about how Johnny Bates, Jr. went back into time age-wise and was clearly two different children!! And we never saw him playing with the other children, despite the fact that Mary promised he would the night he was born!
It may not be accurate but it is what most people that watch the show would wish was true in real life as well as in a show
This is small détails. Carson had the palsy in season 6 . But was fine 3 years later . Never better . Thomas liked the kids and loved the place and his friends. Happily ? He ends up with an old actor he doesn't even know who will pay him for " services" and can fire him at will . Nevermind his former employers why are his friends OK with him abandoning everything for a dubious old guy
Thomas never really loved anywhere much.
@@glen7318 yep . And especially not in the last movie
THIRD MOVIE
Thomas indeed found someone he could serve & other.......
He returns to Downton Abbey just after the Great Depression.
His love interest has been killed in a car crash.plane crash.train crash.stockmarket crash.
Barrow can never be happy in love. Left pennyless He takes up the position vacated due to ill health by Carson.
Carson dies...Lady Mary cries.
Downton maybe lost because of new death taxes...
Barrow sees a notice in the paper from His deceased lovers lawyers.....first seen by Daisy.
He contacts them & they inform him of a substantial inheritance.
Having lived the life of vast wealth before in Hollywood & not finding it to His liking or personal benefit He offers the money to Lady Mary for the death taxes to save Downton Abbey, the Staff & the Village.
FOURTH MOVIE
Master George Goes To War.................
@@patrickphair488 this last movie was set in 1929 I believe. I wonder exactly how many months before the stock market crash
I doubt that people watching this show are looking for strict historical accuracy. If they wanted that, they could just watch documentaries about the time period.
THIRD MOVIE
Thomas indeed found someone he could serve & other.......
He returns to Downton Abbey just after the Great Depression.
His love interest has been killed in a car crash.plane crash.train crash.stockmarket crash.
Barrow can never be happy in love. Left pennyless He takes up the position vacated due to ill health by Carson.
Carson dies...Lady Mary cries.
Downton maybe lost because of new death taxes...
Barrow sees a notice in the paper from His deceased lovers lawyers.....first seen by Daisy.
He contacts them & they inform him of a substantial inheritance.
Having lived the life of vast wealth before in Hollywood & not finding it to His liking or personal benefit He offers the money to Lady Mary for the death taxes to save Downton Abbey, the Staff & the Village.
FOURTH MOVIE
Master George Goes To War.................
Johnny Jr is his Batman and we come full circle. We pan out to Johnny Jr and George sipping on a cocktail in the library surrounded by their children and grandchildren. And that’s how the movie ends.
I’m waiting for George to grow up and go to war, it’s such a great story line.
Violet reminds me of Miss Marple - she seemed to get younger as the books went along.
El vídeo precioso,pero deberías de explicarlo más lentamente, no tan rápido, para así disfrutar de las imágenes que acompañan cada explicación. No te da tiempo a seguir las dos cosas a la vez.Muchas gracias.
Love the Rolls Royce at 7:28!
The whole death scene of Granny was strange. She wasn't even sick. Didn't display any illness, but all of a sudden she's in bed and about to die.
I agree. I pause to complain about the great Maggie Smith's acting, but she didn't seem the slightest out of breath or weak or any indication at all that she was about to die. Then suddenly she's dead. That seemed preposterous to me. Agreed, the diagnosis was never given. Just weird.
She talks about her illness to Mary during a the ball at Harewood house and it takes some monthes untill her death. She says "i'll be fine until I'm not". And that happens. Perhaps some hear weakness due to old age...
Me gusta mucho la serie. Pero no la pueden traducir al español?
The reason why they had no problem with Atticus's Jewish ancestry was explained clearly. Cora's family was also Jewish. So whatever adjustment the Crawlies had to make to accept that, they made that adjustment a LONG time ago.
We still think that the character playing the actor in the movie sure looked like Douglas Fairbanks who married Mary Pickford. They had a child Douglas Fairbanks Jr. It was his parents who were pictured with sir Arthur Conan Doyle.
I agree and wondered if they were intentionally going for a Fairbanks "look."
looks like people are just trying to put the show down
I love how you use pirated clips. That's how I watched the movie also.
I don't think we have to worry about if this story is real b/c it isn't so on these types of stories, history is virtually never close to reality. I like the movies and the t.v. series. It's just a story folks.
Not impossible, but he would not have been validly married in the eyes of the church,and the same rule applies for Catholics today.
Because with their "history", they would not have been profiting from the slave trade (in the 20th century no less!). Lord Grantham had run out of money to keep up the estate--and keep the village employed and housed--not to mention with land to feed themselves. He therefore went across the pond to find what was known as one of "The million dollar princesses". Who happened to have been Jewish. So, there was no money coming in from the slave trade. And Atticus was welcomed into the family as Cora's father was Jewish--something mentioned often throughout. They weren't just "woke" for their time.
And let's not forget that "buggery" was illegal until 1967 in Britain!
I'm glad they weren't accurate about some historical stuff it would have the most boring movie ever LOL
We thought that violet would have married Dr Clarkson
Not impossible, but his marriage would not be valid in the eyes of the Catholic church. The same rule still applies.
Organized religion creates such silly rules.
who cares?
Oh no! You mean it's FICTIONAL? If it had "stayed true to history", if would have been a very dull movie! I don't give a rats arse about the inaccuracies... it's entertaining and THAT is what matters! I mean, it's not like teachers will now be showing the show and movies to their students as shining examples of Edwardian/early 20th century historical facts! (unless it's at a fashion institute!)
Tedious!
En français s’il vous plaît merci 😊
Cora's money was lost in market
The edwardian period ended in 1910 so why do you keep saying Dowton broke the edwardian era rules
Who cares. It's a nice, warm series and movie. At least they are mostly accurate which cannot be said about a lot of so called historical stories like Reign.
All the naysayers are just a lot of killjoys. Take a relax pill, enjoy the charm offered. Or, to put it crudely, bog off.
That was a mistake; reading the guardian!
eh? money from slavery, was no more available even on the Dowager’s time. Cora saved Downtown with her dowry when she married.
Apart from what you pointed out in your video, there are a lot more mistakes from my point of view, but one really bugs me a lot: the incoherent and even childish and absurd behaviour of the characters!! I agree that this is probably a writer's rule, cause when characters are behaving so erratical then the plot is more "interesting", but at some point it gets annoying! I loved the show because of the actors and the production, but really the script is rather predictable and childish. Julian Fellowes might have written something with more coherence and maturity (as in Robert Altman's "Gosford Park" script which is far better written and developed than DA) and it is a pity that he didn't get to that level anymore with all his experience and talent.
Ahhhh. . . . Cora Crawley is Jewish. Thus, Robert Crawley, not Rose, is the first (that we know of), to marry a Jew. (Unless, marrying a Jewish man doesn't mean the same, culturally speaking, as marrying a Jewish woman.)
She's not thoguh as her mother is not Jewish and she was raised Episcopalian
Cora crawley isn’t Jewish, as her mother isn’t Jewish. Judaism is matrilineal. Her father was Jewish. So, she, by birth, and Jewish law, isn’t.
“According to The Guardian”. LOL!!…. That’s like believing the NYT and WoPo
Wasn't Edith pregnant? Where's the baby?
Alsi Aliatair Bruce is a history sage. Nothi g happens without his say so. This isnt the Water Babies. And violet does look older in the new film
Edith´s mother is AMERICAN so wouldn´t be that far-fetched that she would be accepted with Marigold.
Marriage was not permitted by household staff? Hmmmm. If that's the case, then I shouldn't be here. My grandmother started in private service as a kitchen maid (Daisy) and my grandfather was a footman (William). They married, had my father and lived in a country house before my grandfather died in 1935.
Well I suppose that it means that household women just had to leave service when then got married? I cannot imagine all these servants staying single (even if Carson and Mrs Hugues seems to be following this rule, being of old generation). Did your grand parents both stayed at their position after mariage?