Karlag Museum does not allow filming , otherwise people would not go there. But this must be kept up and running to let more people to know the horrible past.
We agree with no filming, it does mean people must visit if they want to learn the history and we are glad we came to visit, it’s a super important part of Kazakh history
yes ! kazakh people were feeding prisoners of Karlag and other camps with Kurt , though they were starving themselves th-cam.com/video/xOwLL3S_1Mc/w-d-xo.html
This was awful human engineering experience on the people, absolutely horrible 😢 And even today, there are many people who loves Soviet Union... Our grand-grandfather was businessman, he was producing salt in Western Qazaqstan and in the 1910s he brought new salt producing plant from Sweden, then he was arrested as Swedish spy by communists, which is not true. He was sent in unknown direction...
Lovely episode with some glimpses of sad and tragic history of Kazakhstan. Knowing that filming was not allowed at the museum but it's a good reminder how precious freedom and homeland is, or should be . As mentioned earlier, I love wide open spaces and you did manage to show how it feels like it too: i.e sun is shining, you are walking at the country side, visiting local store and restaurant/canteen etc. Everything feels real and very human. I was glad to see Dan taking a swing at the park too😢. no offense, he still got little kid inside, which I think, is a good thing and a must for creativity and fun too. Thanks for sharing!💖
Thank you for watching! Yes we understood why filming was not allowed. The tour we felt was super informative with so much information, but also teaches us of what a horrific situation the people went through during the soviet times 😢 some heartbreaking stories we learned. The town was lovely, like stepping back in time. People going about their lives, living off the land. It was nice to see 😄
😢 it’s such a tragic history, so many people suffered. I think the museum still look for people nowadays to share their experiences from the past for others to learn
@@AshAndDan. For the most part it works for schools. During school time a lot of teachers bring their students to museum for history classes. In 1996 about 75-80% archives of Karlag and Alzhir were declassified and since then all children starting from 5th grade visit museum and write essay on a subject. Studends at universities are making researches and analysis. I am very happy that we done it. For example in russia it is still classified and the didn't even know about what happened there
If you are still in Qaragandy, then please go to "Два пельменя" dumplings restaurant. They have the best dumplings in the world. Address is Gogol Street, 47. When I am passing through Qaragandy, I always go to this place.
Millions of lives been sacrificed by Ruzzia in just a few years. That will never be forgotten. Ruzzia still thinks they were helping by sacrificing so many lives including children, women and elders.
😔😔 people went through hell, we still don’t understand when people say the soviet times were better how they can say this when it caused so much death and suffering
@@AshAndDan.Only those who were close to the people who were in power at the time say this. The common people suffered. They took away land, took away cattle from the nomads - the only food we had then. People died in the millions! They destroyed and sent the entire intelligentsia to labor camps! They turned part of the territory into concentration camps, part of the territory was turned into a testing ground for nuclear tests, they built a cosmodrome, which also sent and still poisons the atmosphere! They drained the Aral Sea, turning the region into a desert with an ecological situation. They rewrote history, forcing us to forget our language and roots! At the same time, they reproach us for forgetting the good they did to us! As if we were savages and would have remained so if not for them!
Yes kind of 😂 a very interesting day out but lots of sad stories. We enjoyed seeing this side of Kazakhstan town life compared to the big cities we have come from!
I'm a bit frustrated they didn't allow filming at the museum. Anyway, it was nice to see you all safe and sound over there. I believe Turkestan might be a nicer historical spot to visit. Thank you for sharing your travel experience.
I guess it’s a bit frustrating but also it allows the museum some secrecy and people must visit if they want to learn the history which I think is important to keep these places open and making an income
Наш народ очень пострадал от советской власти много людей погибло это было истребление целых аулов изгнание из родной земли разворовали геноцид никогда не забудем😢
@@RSM-Unofficial Yes, this has always happened...But here we are specifically talking about the Soviet power. The Kazakhs suffered the most, about 70 percent of the nation was exterminated by the artificially caused famine. In those years, the majority of Ukrainians also suffered, as well as the peoples of the Caucasus, who were driven out of their lands and forcibly resettled to the steppes of Kazakhstan, where they, together with the Kazakhs, survived as best they could.
@@SabrageShow i agree, I've heard heart wrenching stories from the kazak peoples, i have 2 question, how big was the religious factor? I've heard stories that Muslims under Soviet rule suffered more, and it goes as far as Uzbekistan. 2nd what's general opinion about president nur sultan nazarbayev? I'm kinda fan of him, he had to fight both communism and capitalism.
Коммунисты много хорошего тоже сделали. Давайте будем справедливыми , а могли просто поступить с нашим народом как американцы с индейцами, т е. отправить жить в резервации. Благодаря советской власти казахи получили образование , у нас построили города , было свое телевидение и газеты на казахском, во всех институтах были факультеты на русском и казахском. Огромное спасибо Кунаеву . Лучший лидер нации. Я казашка и жила в СССР в отличии от многих тут комментаторов.
Halo, rinn mi sgrùdadh ann an Karaganda anns na 2000n mar oileanach. Thig gu Astana bho 8 Sultain gu 13 bidh Geamannan World Nomad ann, tha sinn a ’feitheamh riut ann an Astana
@@AAH-td7kg @AAH-td7kg Sumerians are ancestors of Celtics and Turkic nations. Sheep wool and felt are the same for both nations. Another shocking fact is that the oldest backpipe was found in Qazaq soil, and Qazaq people also used it. And, Celtics and Qazaq people, nobody conquered us until firearm appeared. All those facts are proof that Celtics originated from Central Asia.
We enjoyed the charm of this old town, it felt like stepping back in time and very different from the big cities we visited. It’s sometimes nice to visit a place that hasn’t been modernised or westernised ☺️
We thought it was super interesting to see, because there was a calculator close but the shop keeper chose to use the abacus method which is keeping her brain active! 😄
@@AshAndDan. The Alash Party, or Alash Orda, was a political movement established in the early 20th century in Kazakhstan, which was part of the Russian Empire at that time. The party was founded by Kazakh intellectuals and public figures, including Ali Khan Bukeikhanov, Ahmet Baitursynov, and Mukhamedzhan Tynyshpaev. The party's goals included: Autonomy: The party advocated for the autonomy of Kazakhstan within the Russian Empire and later within the Soviet Union. National Revival: The party sought the cultural and educational revival of the Kazakh people, the introduction of a written language, and the development of national consciousness. Social Reforms: The Alash Party supported reforms in education, the economy, and legal systems. After the October Revolution of 1917 and the establishment of Soviet power, many members of the Alash Party were arrested or repressed, and the party itself was dissolved. However, their efforts and ideas had a significant impact on the subsequent development of Kazakh identity and the national movement
@@AshAndDan. Хотелось бы, чтобы вы знали про существование казахской интеллигенции, состоящих из поэтов, учёных, политиков и активистов. Они были за свободу казахского народа, во всех пониманиях этого слова. К сожалению, они были репрессированы и убиты в тридцатые годы прошлого столетия. Сейчас мы активно освещаем эту страницу нашей истории
In the 1760s, when we weakened from constant attacks from the Dzungars (modern territory of Mongolia), we were forcibly annexed to the Russian Empire. Also in 1916-17 there were many uprisings. However, unfortunately, we lost this war, since all the opinion leaders, all literate people such as political scientists, philosophers, writers, Stalin tortured and then cruelly executed, and all their followers. Accordingly, when the Soviet power came, there were no people left who would go against the government. Mostly women and children. The Kazakhs had led a nomadic lifestyle all their lives and could always live in abundance. Each Kazakh family in those years had a fortune of several herds of cattle. But after the arrival of the Soviets, they forcibly took away everything they had and this affected every family. In those terrible times, while Hollywood was being formed in America and the "ringing 20s", more than 70% of the population died in the Kazakh steppe from an artificially created famine. The 30 that remained alive survived as best they could, ate grass, steppe mice, and there were cases of cannibalism. Horrible times that my great-grandmother told me about with tears in her eyes. And throughout the existence of the USSR, we were called the Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Republic. Our grandparents lived through hard times, Moscow used us as much as it could, 500 000 young Kazakhs gave their lives in the name of victory over Nazi Germany, and we were still called an autonomy. All the minerals were pumped out of our land for 70 years, rivers and lakes were drained (like the Aral Sea) to redirect water resources to other regions, and all this was on orders from Moscow. The only important thing is that you can trace the modern border of Kazakhstan since 1465 (15th century), when 2 khans Kerey and Zhanibek united different tribes and formed one state (khanate) called the Kazakh Khanate. This is our history... In brief...)
Не были вы форсибли аннекст, а сами попросились в подданство. 5 миллионов казахов отдали свои жизни за победу над немцами--??? Чего ты курил??? Сказки вы сочиняете...
FYI, you can do parallel with Palestine. There were a guy, Shaya Itsikovich, later he change his name to fillip Goloshchoykin , russian jew, who during russian empire used to make dentures, became during Soviet regime one the main killer organizators who bruttally killed russian emperor Nickolas II and his family. After, he was sent to Kazakhstan, where he organized famine of kazakhs, almost 60 percent of population where killed.
Naphtaly Frankel, russian jew, "was a Soviet security officer and member of the Soviet secret police. Frenkel is best known for his role in the organisation of work in the Gulag, starting from the forced labor camp of the Solovetsky Islands, which is recognised as one of the earliest sites of the Gulag." Ironically this evil end up in of his creations, SLON., or solovetskie lageria. Naftaly Frenkel's origins are uncertain. The given name Naftaly is of Hebrew origin, as are the roots of the patronymic Aronovich.[1] Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn called him a "Turkish Jew born in Constantinople".[2] Another described him as a "Hungarian manufacturer".[3] Yet another claimed that Frenkel came from Odessa.[4] Yet more said he was from Austria, or Palestine. His prisoner registration card states clearly that he was born in Haifa, then part of the Ottoman Empire. From Haifa he made his way (perhaps via Odessa, perhaps via Austria-Hungary) to the Soviet Union where he described himself as a 'merchant'.[4][5]
говорите не спасибо а ракмет это не россия а Казакстан! мы русских 70 лет в ссср и 33 года после ссср не можем по казахский научить простые 3 слова сказать, салем-привет ракмет-спасибо и сауболыныз-досвидание ,они 100 лет эти 3 слова учат и не могут выучить а почему? они не уважают казахский язык им неприятно на нем говорить учить его хоть живут тут! токо русские живя в стране несколько поколении и даже не стараются учить местный язык , как они к нам и нашему языку так и мы к ним будем ВЗАИМНО!
Чувак ты говоришь чушь. Из-за таких как ты "казакша сойле" даже многие казахи бросают в итоге изучение казахского языка. Потому что нет никакой мягкой поддержки, а только критика и косые взгляды аля манкурт и прочее. У меня друг казах в итоге забил на изучение именно по таким вот причинам во многом. А потом все удивляются почему такие проблемы с изучением. Своих же готовы загрызть зачастую.
Guys, you are really good tourists! Not visiting only touristic places but exploring real Kazakhstan around! Thanks for your visit!
Thanks for watching! We do enjoy exploring off the beaten path and seeing less touristy spots 😊
Thank you very much for learning our history 🙏
❤️❤️ we will always learn a part of each countries history that we visit
Karlag Museum does not allow filming , otherwise people would not go there. But this must be kept up and running to let more people to know the horrible past.
We agree with no filming, it does mean people must visit if they want to learn the history and we are glad we came to visit, it’s a super important part of Kazakh history
If you want to learn more about Kazakhstan history, read about Asharshylik ( Ашаршылык)
In this Gulad camp local kids fed refugees with qurt throwing over the fence)
yes ! kazakh people were feeding prisoners of Karlag and other camps with Kurt , though they were starving themselves
th-cam.com/video/xOwLL3S_1Mc/w-d-xo.html
This was awful human engineering experience on the people, absolutely horrible 😢
And even today, there are many people who loves Soviet Union...
Our grand-grandfather was businessman, he was producing salt in Western Qazaqstan and in the 1910s he brought new salt producing plant from Sweden, then he was arrested as Swedish spy by communists, which is not true. He was sent in unknown direction...
Моя бабушка 13 лет была заключённая в лагере Карлага, она так и ничего не рассказала нам о тех страшных годах, при вопросах она только плакала. 😢
@@АйнагульАбильдина-д4л😢❤
Соль до сих пор добывают здесь!!!
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Lovely episode with some glimpses of sad and tragic history of Kazakhstan. Knowing that filming was not allowed at the museum but it's a good reminder how precious freedom and homeland is, or should be . As mentioned earlier, I love wide open spaces and you did manage to show how it feels like it too: i.e sun is shining, you are walking at the country side, visiting local store and restaurant/canteen etc. Everything feels real and very human. I was glad to see Dan taking a swing at the park too😢. no offense, he still got little kid inside, which I think, is a good thing and a must for creativity and fun too. Thanks for sharing!💖
Thank you for watching! Yes we understood why filming was not allowed. The tour we felt was super informative with so much information, but also teaches us of what a horrific situation the people went through during the soviet times 😢 some heartbreaking stories we learned.
The town was lovely, like stepping back in time. People going about their lives, living off the land. It was nice to see 😄
Hello Come to Astana from September 8 to 13 there will be the World Nomad Games. I studied in Karaganda in 2000-2003, now I live in Astana,
They told you 13-15% of information. I am living here in Karaganda. Karlag and all Stalin's camps were the same as Hitler's were
😢 it’s such a tragic history, so many people suffered. I think the museum still look for people nowadays to share their experiences from the past for others to learn
@@AshAndDan. For the most part it works for schools. During school time a lot of teachers bring their students to museum for history classes. In 1996 about 75-80% archives of Karlag and Alzhir were declassified and since then all children starting from 5th grade visit museum and write essay on a subject. Studends at universities are making researches and analysis. I am very happy that we done it. For example in russia it is still classified and the didn't even know about what happened there
G1👍 Have just finished watching, I'm getting more and more into this traveling channel!
Awesome! Thank you! 😄😄
Cool video! Thanks! Being Kazakh myself I’ve never been to cities other than Astana and Almaty. So, thank you for showing us our country. 👍😁
Glad you enjoyed it! We really liked seeing the rural side of Kazakh life 😊 thanks for watching!
Very nice vlog 👌
Thank you 😊
Thank you so much for visiting and showing our country ❤️
Thank you for watching! We really loved Kazakhstan ❤️🇰🇿
If you are still in Qaragandy, then please go to "Два пельменя" dumplings restaurant. They have the best dumplings in the world.
Address is Gogol Street, 47.
When I am passing through Qaragandy, I always go to this place.
Ого!! Я родом из Караганды, но не знала об этом месте))
Loved watching it...keep going ❤
Thank you so much 😄
USSR brought a lot of pain to Kazakhstan
Millions of lives been sacrificed by Ruzzia in just a few years. That will never be forgotten. Ruzzia still thinks they were helping by sacrificing so many lives including children, women and elders.
@@ukessex That is true...
😔😔 people went through hell, we still don’t understand when people say the soviet times were better how they can say this when it caused so much death and suffering
@@AshAndDan. Usually ruZZian citizens say it and some other living museum artifacts who were brainwashed by the fascist soviet propaganda
@@AshAndDan.Only those who were close to the people who were in power at the time say this. The common people suffered.
They took away land, took away cattle from the nomads - the only food we had then. People died in the millions! They destroyed and sent the entire intelligentsia to labor camps! They turned part of the territory into concentration camps, part of the territory was turned into a testing ground for nuclear tests, they built a cosmodrome, which also sent and still poisons the atmosphere! They drained the Aral Sea, turning the region into a desert with an ecological situation. They rewrote history, forcing us to forget our language and roots! At the same time, they reproach us for forgetting the good they did to us! As if we were savages and would have remained so if not for them!
14:15 she said watch your head at the second door. Keep your head down
Thank you! We didn’t know what she was explaining at the time 😄 I guess she thought Dan was too tall for the door haha
The dough you took from the canteen is called Baursak.
Thanks! We thought it could be but not certain haha! Very yummy 🤤
Amazing 🎉🎉🎉🎉
I guess on that day you visited two museums. An indoor and an outdoor😄
Awesome episode!
Yes kind of 😂 a very interesting day out but lots of sad stories. We enjoyed seeing this side of Kazakhstan town life compared to the big cities we have come from!
Super cool 😎
Thanks ☺️
@@AshAndDan. You welcome
I'm a bit frustrated they didn't allow filming at the museum. Anyway, it was nice to see you all safe and sound over there. I believe Turkestan might be a nicer historical spot to visit. Thank you for sharing your travel experience.
They maintain this museum with money from the entrance, and I think not allowing to film so that people can see all that horror with their own eyes.
I guess it’s a bit frustrating but also it allows the museum some secrecy and people must visit if they want to learn the history which I think is important to keep these places open and making an income
The saleswoman at the store told you not to hit your head on the door frame.
Thanks for telling us! We didn’t understand but she was very nice ☺️ maybe she thought Dan was too tall for the door haha
Great to see guests from UK in our region. You are welcome here, Qosh keldinizder❤
Thank you! 😄
Наш народ очень пострадал от советской власти много людей погибло это было истребление целых аулов изгнание из родной земли разворовали геноцид никогда не забудем😢
This has happened to almost every Nation 😢 when ever one group of peoples gets some power they tend to oppress others.
@@RSM-Unofficial Yes, this has always happened...But here we are specifically talking about the Soviet power. The Kazakhs suffered the most, about 70 percent of the nation was exterminated by the artificially caused famine. In those years, the majority of Ukrainians also suffered, as well as the peoples of the Caucasus, who were driven out of their lands and forcibly resettled to the steppes of Kazakhstan, where they, together with the Kazakhs, survived as best they could.
The stories we heard were so tragic, so much suffering to these poor people lived through hell 😢
@@SabrageShow i agree, I've heard heart wrenching stories from the kazak peoples, i have 2 question, how big was the religious factor? I've heard stories that Muslims under Soviet rule suffered more, and it goes as far as Uzbekistan.
2nd what's general opinion about president nur sultan nazarbayev? I'm kinda fan of him, he had to fight both communism and capitalism.
Коммунисты много хорошего тоже сделали. Давайте будем справедливыми , а могли просто поступить с нашим народом как американцы с индейцами, т е. отправить жить в резервации.
Благодаря советской власти казахи получили образование , у нас построили города , было свое телевидение и газеты на казахском, во всех институтах были факультеты на русском и казахском.
Огромное спасибо Кунаеву . Лучший лидер нации. Я казашка и жила в СССР в отличии от многих тут комментаторов.
Karaganda is my hometown. Nice to see you, guys, here.
Ah very nice! We liked the city of Karaganda too! Thanks for watching 😄 (our new vlog it out and we are exploring your city)
Welcome to Karaganda. Hope you spent your time good!
Thanks! 😃 we really enjoyed exploring the city - our new vlog is out now on Karaganda
It is fun how Dan keeps calling canteens a restaurant lol 😂 hope they have a teapot hat just like the one in Navat 😂
Я тоже поеду в Долинку посмотреть на счета , это круто….
When you were in Karaganda?
We visited in April 😊
in the end she said watch your head when u were buying icecream
The lady in the second shop said to watch his head which he almost hit 😄😄
Halo, rinn mi sgrùdadh ann an Karaganda anns na 2000n mar oileanach. Thig gu Astana bho 8 Sultain gu 13 bidh Geamannan World Nomad ann, tha sinn a ’feitheamh riut ann an Astana
Godfrey Lias, Qazaq exodus, 1956
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If you are Celtic, then you are in the land of your ancestors since thousands years 😂
I’m confused,are you saying scottish/celtics came from Kazakhstan?
@@AAH-td7kg from Central Asia, very long time ago
@@AAH-td7kg @AAH-td7kg Sumerians are ancestors of Celtics and Turkic nations.
Sheep wool and felt are the same for both nations.
Another shocking fact is that the oldest backpipe was found in Qazaq soil, and Qazaq people also used it.
And, Celtics and Qazaq people, nobody conquered us until firearm appeared.
All those facts are proof that Celtics originated from Central Asia.
Karlag, Steplag and Alzhyr.
👍🏻🙏🏻❤️
Казахстан 2030 ) до сих пор на уровне 90-х
Могли бы Долинку этк более -менее благоустроить, ведь приезжают разные туристы. Стыдно.
We enjoyed the charm of this old town, it felt like stepping back in time and very different from the big cities we visited. It’s sometimes nice to visit a place that hasn’t been modernised or westernised ☺️
На самом деле в этот музей иностранных туристов много не ходит, многие иностранцы знают только о гулаге.
In Kazakhstan Karaganda city known as a grey city
Oh interesting! Our home city in Scotland is also famous for being grey!
My friend works with England Cricket Board and got me tickets for the Pakistan series next month all free and inclusive
Oh amazing!! That will be great 🏏😎 hope you enjoy!
Modern Talking Forever ❤
В магазине счеты? 😮 Кошмар! Это что за прошлый век.? Сейчас во многих даже райцентрах рассчитываются карточками..
Там они сказали также калькулятор лежал, но это больше по привычке наверное.
Смотря с какой стороны посмотреть) Счеты развивают мыслительные процессы, так что нет ничего стыдного, тем более рядом лежал калькулятор)
We thought it was super interesting to see, because there was a calculator close but the shop keeper chose to use the abacus method which is keeping her brain active! 😄
Многие пожилые продавцы до сих пор пользуются счетами, по старой привычке, скорее всего
►♪♫THX♥my♥children!☼☼♥!!
USSR kill 60-70% of the population of Kazahstan and they did around 450 nuclear weapons tests in Kazahstan😢😢It’s was terrible time for my country
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Слышали ли вы про Алаш орду?
No we haven’t! What’s this?
@@AshAndDan. The Alash Party, or Alash Orda, was a political movement established in the early 20th century in Kazakhstan, which was part of the Russian Empire at that time. The party was founded by Kazakh intellectuals and public figures, including Ali Khan Bukeikhanov, Ahmet Baitursynov, and Mukhamedzhan Tynyshpaev.
The party's goals included:
Autonomy: The party advocated for the autonomy of Kazakhstan within the Russian Empire and later within the Soviet Union.
National Revival: The party sought the cultural and educational revival of the Kazakh people, the introduction of a written language, and the development of national consciousness.
Social Reforms: The Alash Party supported reforms in education, the economy, and legal systems.
After the October Revolution of 1917 and the establishment of Soviet power, many members of the Alash Party were arrested or repressed, and the party itself was dissolved. However, their efforts and ideas had a significant impact on the subsequent development of Kazakh identity and the national movement
@@AshAndDan. Хотелось бы, чтобы вы знали про существование казахской интеллигенции, состоящих из поэтов, учёных, политиков и активистов. Они были за свободу казахского народа, во всех пониманиях этого слова. К сожалению, они были репрессированы и убиты в тридцатые годы прошлого столетия. Сейчас мы активно освещаем эту страницу нашей истории
привет Шотландия
Кроме Астаны и Алматы, больше ничего нет 😢 стыдно показывать остальные оьласти Казахстана. Особенно частные сектора. Где топаешь по грязи. 😢😢😢
There’s lot to Kazakhstan! We didn’t even see half of the country! We’d definitely visit again to see more of the incredible nature 🇰🇿
в Мангистауской области есть интересные виды на природу
Huxyя ceбe и в Караганде есть Каганат😮😮
In the 1760s, when we weakened from constant attacks from the Dzungars (modern territory of Mongolia), we were forcibly annexed to the Russian Empire. Also in 1916-17 there were many uprisings. However, unfortunately, we lost this war, since all the opinion leaders, all literate people such as political scientists, philosophers, writers,
Stalin tortured and then cruelly executed, and all their followers.
Accordingly, when the Soviet power came, there were no people left who would go against the government. Mostly women and children.
The Kazakhs had led a nomadic lifestyle all their lives and could always live in abundance. Each Kazakh family in those years had a fortune of several herds of cattle. But after the arrival of the Soviets, they forcibly took away everything they had and this affected every family. In those terrible times, while Hollywood was being formed in America and the "ringing 20s", more than 70% of the population died in the Kazakh steppe from an artificially created famine. The 30 that remained alive survived as best they could, ate grass, steppe mice, and there were cases of cannibalism. Horrible times that my great-grandmother told me about with tears in her eyes.
And throughout the existence of the USSR, we were called the Kazakh Autonomous Soviet Republic.
Our grandparents lived through hard times, Moscow used us as much as it could, 500 000 young Kazakhs gave their lives in the name of victory over Nazi Germany, and we were still called an autonomy. All the minerals were pumped out of our land for 70 years, rivers and lakes were drained (like the Aral Sea) to redirect water resources to other regions, and all this was on orders from Moscow.
The only important thing is that you can trace the modern border of Kazakhstan since 1465 (15th century), when 2 khans Kerey and Zhanibek united different tribes and formed one state (khanate) called the Kazakh Khanate.
This is our history...
In brief...)
Не были вы форсибли аннекст, а сами попросились в подданство. 5 миллионов казахов отдали свои жизни за победу над немцами--??? Чего ты курил??? Сказки вы сочиняете...
@@Капитошка-э4м 500 тыс. тут ошибся, верно.
Караганда страшный город
FYI, you can do parallel with Palestine.
There were a guy, Shaya Itsikovich, later he change his name to fillip Goloshchoykin , russian jew, who during russian empire used to make dentures, became during Soviet regime one the main killer organizators who bruttally killed russian emperor Nickolas II and his family. After, he was sent to Kazakhstan, where he organized famine of kazakhs, almost 60 percent of population where killed.
Naphtaly Frankel, russian jew, "was a Soviet security officer and member of the Soviet secret police. Frenkel is best known for his role in the organisation of work in the Gulag, starting from the forced labor camp of the Solovetsky Islands, which is recognised as one of the earliest sites of the Gulag."
Ironically this evil end up in of his creations, SLON., or solovetskie lageria.
Naftaly Frenkel's origins are uncertain. The given name Naftaly is of Hebrew origin, as are the roots of the patronymic Aronovich.[1] Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn called him a "Turkish Jew born in Constantinople".[2] Another described him as a "Hungarian manufacturer".[3] Yet another claimed that Frenkel came from Odessa.[4] Yet more said he was from Austria, or Palestine. His prisoner registration card states clearly that he was born in Haifa, then part of the Ottoman Empire. From Haifa he made his way (perhaps via Odessa, perhaps via Austria-Hungary) to the Soviet Union where he described himself as a 'merchant'.[4][5]
Hi doood!!!How a you?You realy in Karagandy???😁
We were! Not anymore but we really liked visiting this part of Kazakhstan 😄
@@AshAndDan. Welcome😉
говорите не спасибо а ракмет это не россия а Казакстан! мы русских 70 лет в ссср и 33 года после ссср не можем по казахский научить простые 3 слова сказать, салем-привет ракмет-спасибо и сауболыныз-досвидание ,они 100 лет эти 3 слова учат и не могут выучить а почему? они не уважают казахский язык им неприятно на нем говорить учить его хоть живут тут! токо русские живя в стране несколько поколении и даже не стараются учить местный язык , как они к нам и нашему языку так и мы к ним будем ВЗАИМНО!
Чувак ты говоришь чушь. Из-за таких как ты "казакша сойле" даже многие казахи бросают в итоге изучение казахского языка. Потому что нет никакой мягкой поддержки, а только критика и косые взгляды аля манкурт и прочее. У меня друг казах в итоге забил на изучение именно по таким вот причинам во многом. А потом все удивляются почему такие проблемы с изучением. Своих же готовы загрызть зачастую.
Я тоже поеду в Долинку посмотреть на счета , это круто….