Competent car Got my new Outback Sport Premium CVT diesel in November 2015, and the conclusion is that I am very satisfied. Lives in mid Norway, and drives about 45 000 km/year. My previous car was a 2012 VW Passat Variant Highline 4motion 140hk TDCi manual. Also A very god car. Advantages with the Subaru: Better 4WD system, it is permanent. Driving in winter on snow, and sometimes wet ice with a caravan: the Subaru is outstanding. Permanent symetrical AWD beats the Haldex system clearly. And with automatisk level control on the real axle the Subaru is an encellet towing car. 20 cm ground clearance makes a huge diffence passing speed bumps, going on offroad tracks and in deep snow. Feel safe all the time. And my wife likes to sit into a car, not down in a car. Overwiew from the driver position is also superb. The new VW Passat looks really nice, better than the Subaru Outback. I really wanted to have "the active screen display" in my dashboard. But for me the Outback is great in total.
I also would go for the Subaru. I like it's function over form instead of the Passat form over function. I also like the design of the Subaru. Inside it is hugh and you can control things even with gloves on. Also the seats on the latest version were great! And it looks like this are the same seats. Even better on comfort than Volvo seats. I really like the car!
Thanks to the Autogefuhl crew! Living in the US and i did the TDI buyback on a 2012 VW Golf 2.0L TDI. Loved the VW and had Zero issues after 80,000 miles. Unfortunately, We don't have the Passat Alltrack available or even the Passat wagon. We needed to get a wagon or SUV for our family of 3 and our 80lb German Shepherd. The wagon style was preferred to a have a lower height for the dog to enter and exit the rear. The Golf Alltrack is not in the same size class and was too small. We also looked at Volvo V60 Crosscountry.....still to small in the rear. We bought last week a Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited Trim and could not be happier. Thanks for the review and outstanding attention to details on the review. This gave me many comparison points I may have missed just going in and looking myself and shopping at the dealerships. Well done!
Wonderful review of a great car. I'm a great fan of Outbacks, but then I've owned one for 14 years without repairing a single thing (beyond replacing consumable parts). Thomas approaches each car prepared to like it. He has judgment and is knowledgeable, and yet he is appropriately modest about issues where other people might well have different views. I understand he is more than busy doing these reviews, but if he had time for other projects he could do well as a narrator for documentaries or reading children's stories. His voice is soothing.
Nice review! We just bought the 2018 model in the USA. We compared it with the Forester and found it slightly more comfortable and not as noisy on the highway. We also like the roomy cargo area, but the main feature for us, which is not always mentioned in reviews, is the amazing ground clearance you get with these vehicles. The 2018 has 8.7 inches of clearance, which we really need where we live. I really liked my previous vehicle, but because of our rough winter roads and dirt roads, this car with AWD and excellent ground clearance privides superior handling.
Another great review. When deciding between vehicles I think it's also important to take a look and compare the crash test ratings, reliability histories, fuel economy, insurance rates, and resale values.
Yes. Resale is probably market-specific. Reliability though is crucial. Difficult though as reviewers are commenting only on their few hours with the vehicle. And it also gets very hard for them to recommend German over Japanese brands which is unfortunately a pre-requisite for European reviewers.
Regarding the rear gate, if you press the button on the gate once it will open automatically, but if you press and hold the button it will unlock only.
Went for the 2017 Outback 2.5 Premium because of This Video!!! Did not know that Germany would be the one to have me buy a Subaru here in the States. This car is pretty big. He's just tall LOL. probably an average height in Germany. Thanks Autogefuhl!
I really liked your detailed test of this car. I'm going to have a test drive of a 2016 model tomorrow, and this test really helped me to know that I would like to have a car like this for me and my family. Thank you. 👍 Greetings from Manchester 👊
Bought a 2017 Outback Limited trim here in the US. Was due to the VW TDI Buyback and the family also needed more room. After 8k miles on ours we absolutely love it. Very comfortable for the long trips of 6 plus hours and got 25.2 mpg over a trip of 392 miles one way. most travel was on highway @75-80 Mph. Really looked hard at the VW Golf Alltrack in SE or SEL Trims too when we were trying to make up our mind for our new wagon. The Subaru Outback although not a fast as the Alltrack seems very comfortable at highway speeds as long as you are not climbing big hills. The 2.5L boxer and the transmission show they are a bit week. the 3.6L 6 cylinder boxer .....I have test drove and think that would cure my want on the long hill climbs. the Eyesight Adaptive Cruise is outstanding! If you buy one you will not be disappointed for a great family utility car that isn't a big lumbering SUV. on the Plus it has more room than many small to midsize SUVs.
Very thorough review. I have a 2015 Premium 2.5i and agree with just about all of his comments. The power tailgate is a bit finicky at times for me also but the rest of the Outback works just fine. I noticed a few differences between the Deutsche version and the USA version ; cup holder center console a bit different and fog lights are smaller on the Euro version, also the back seat head rests are the nicer contoured style vs the bulkier US style. The CVT transmission will conform to your driving style after a while, it learns the way a person drives in a way. Thanks for a great review Thomas.
Here in Canada I fell in love with this car and test drove it many times. Its center of gravity feels lower than other crossovers and I felt that the driving was safe and confident. Steering and handling is electric like most cars now but in this one it felt much more natural than other electric steering in its competitors. I almost bought one to replace my Jeep Patriot but finally went for the Outlander 2016 from Mitsubishi because I got a much better deal. Subaru dealers here are snob. I think Subaru always designed very plain SUVs that are functional more than seducing and they are drawn as if to please a more conservative senior clients. Despite its new body, this one too seems on the plain side. On the other hand it has all what one needs in harsh winters like the ones we have here. Also I wanted its symetrical AWD and ground clearance for my outdoors activity. One thing I noticed is that your European model is more refined especially on the inside than the North American one. On the outside your rear bottom part is much nicer than the NA version that has the same rear bottom as the previous model. I do not know why but here they left few elements from the previous generation including the pedestal and shifting gear etc. If we compare the same trims (mid level one), yours looks and feels more upscale and has more features. All in all this is a practical car for outdoors life style and even if I am now satisfied with my Mitsubishi Outlander 2016, I still prefer this one :)
Very thorough review there Thomas, really appreciate the small clever details and some needing work within the vehicle. The Passat Alltrack might have a better exterior, well made classier interior presentation and also be good with off-roading but I think the Subaru Outback the more competent of the two in most rough conditions depending on your lifestyle. Can't wait for your review on upcoming Alfa Romeo Stelvio and maybe all-new Mazda CX-5..
Hello, I'm from Lithuania. There are a lot of Subaru cars. Outback is really popular and competes with "Passat Alltrack" or "Passat Variant" in Lithuania. Actually, I allways see more Outbacks, than Passat Alltracks here, that is for any generation of these cars. I also tested both of them. I can say, that mild "offroading" with Subaru, really feels safer and more confident, than with the Passat. So, if you live in places, harder to reach in winter, I recommend Subaru! Boot lid... It is strange, when you showed that. Pearson, I've tested Outback with, bought that car and everything works properly. So, it might have been the fault of your specific vehicle. ...Which is strange for "reliable" Subaru. :-D "Eye Sight" system... I agree with you, it works really well. Here is our subjective validation of EyeSight system reliability: Day time, good weather ~100% Day time, rain ~ 90 - 95% Day time, fog ~ 70 - 80% Night time, good weather ~ 95 - 100% Night time, rain ~ 70% Night time, fog ~ 50 - 60% As an engineer, I can tell... They've made really good system with what they have. It's not as advanced as Mercedes, Volvo, Tesla, Audi, BMW systems, but reliability is impressive (they did it Subaru way... :-D ). They will add radars and ultrasonic sensors, install more powerful hardware, improve their algorithms. From what I've seen so far, the bright future awaits for their Eyesight system. Also... Your journal "Auto motor und sport" tested major car brands sold in Germany about their real vs. advertised consumption. Apparently, Subaru is one of the most honest about their economy. :-) Although, I would like them to offer more powerful engines in the future! P.S.: Thomas..! ... BMW... 7 series ... review... When..? :-D
As I said, Subaru system is good. But when illumination of the road gets worse (fog, rain, country road with limited illumination...), stereo cameras becomes limited... Imagine... how well does your camera film in the limited illumination environment? :-D Eyesight works good in the dark, but DARK + RAIN = NOT so well... :-D So for the night, you need cameras + radar(lidar for e.g. :-) ). Actually, you should make a video about autonomous tech in cars. Bosch is working on integrated system and Nvidia - on computers for autonomous cars. You should try them at first. :-) This thing becomes very popular within car industry.
It is a fantastic review. All fans from souteast europe must watch it since we don't have here any chance to test 2.5L petrol engine. The only think i missed, was the way this car behaves in a high speed ride. In regard with this aspect the amount of fuel consumption would be also very interesting. Because I trust autogefuel i want to express my gratitude because this channel helps me very much to find a proper new car for me and my family.
I love the rugged design of the Out Back. I would not change a thing, however the terrain I live around calls for ruggedness. Almost Heaven, West Virginia. I'm totally surrounded by jumbled mountains.
Outstanding review! I and my wife am waiting for the Golf Sportwagen Alltrack to come out here in the States this fall and have viewed that review as well (which was also excellent). The Golf Sportwagen Alltrack is what we are leaning towards since we are longtime VW owners Jettas, Passats(A sedan and wagon B5 4motion). and Golfs(MK IV and VI). I have test driven the Outback and also found it very well put together and comfortable to drive. As I am 190cm and getting older (mid 40's) I am hoping the Alltrack has a better feel getting in and out vs the regular Sportwagen which is quite low. Getting in and out of the Outback was very nice and a potential selling point along with the extra room vs the Alltrack. I was also very impressed with the Eyesight system when driving.
One thing I really dislike about subaru in europe (Germany) is their tendency to push the cvt transmission by forcing the customer to buy it if he wants a certain trim level.. I prefer manual transmission over automatic with gears. I gave the cvt a try in my current prius. Even after 8 years I still can't get used to it. It feels more like a scooter than a car. I love subaru for their simplicity, durability and function over form attitude. Actually I like the designs very much. I even don't care about the higher fuel consumption or that everything seems to be a little bit of yesterdays news. What drives me mad is I want to buy a Subaru but there is no model in a satisfying manual shifting version available in the higher trim levels and with a stronger engines (which I need to pull a trailer). You can't get a sport trim with manual shifting. Why not? I love the Levorg. It would be THE perfect car for me. Only one version. cvt... I guess I'll give it a try at my local dealership but I am pretty sceptic. Why would you spend so much money for a car that is all around nice but you almost puke when you tread on the gas pedal. 1st world problems....
Thank you, Autogefuhl for a thorough review- the Passat all-road is not available in the USA - only the Audi, which is much more expensive. VW is going to buy back my TDi because it pollutes the air; I am not very pleased with VW because they sold me a diesel engine that did not comply with the law. I am definitely going to buy the OUTBACK 3.6R (6-cylinder) because it is smooth on the road, and good off-road. In the USA, SUBARU has a very good reputation for reliability.
I am in the same boat with a Golf TDI but am also looking at the VW Golf Sportwagen Alltrack that is supposed to come out in the fall of 2016. I have test driven the Outback and liked it a lot. Much better than I had expected with a CVT.
Paul Bishop I think there are a lot of us in the same boat right now. I've got a '12 Golf that there're buying back and this is one of the replacements I'm contemplating. While I really like the new Alltrack I really like the extra room in the Outback. I guess it comes down to the actual buy back of my Golf. I think they're gonna throw in a sweetener when you take your car in for the check. They need to do everything they can to keep customers in their cars!
Motorep - the buyback should start after the judge gives final approval on Oct. 18th -- did you sign in on the website yet? I have already accepted the final buyback price. Enter your VIN number at www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/
Yes, I've already sent them copies of my title and registration so I'm deep into the buyback process. I'm leaning toward the 3.6R Outback Limited at this time but still want to see what VW will do in the end. Anything the throw in over $2K might sway my decision back to the Alltrack. However, after looking at both in person yesterday I really do prefer the extra room in the Subie!
Is there somewhere we can talk privately? As soon as I get the VW money (they're giving me almost what I paid for it. 2014 JSW Tdi) I'm going to the dealer - Thomas' review above was so persuasive that I'm inclined to an Outback 3.6R - not the Limited cos I don't want leather and do want roof-rails. Torn between "Soo-baru" and Toyota 4Runner, just because it has a high seat. Bad back needs a good seat.
Excellent review. Great presentation by the reviewer and superb video work. This has to be one of the best and most thorough Subaru Outback reviews available on TH-cam. I do like the console layout of the European version of the Outback compared to the one available in the USA. The cupholders on the USA version are on the side of the console nearest the passenger.
I just purchased a 2016 outback with 33,000 miles. Not one to buy new. I am very happy with my purchase however, I purchased mine with a 3.6R. Gas is good but not great with the 3.6R but I knew that going in. I can't compare this car to VW since I had my mind set up anyway. Thank you for your review.
I have owned 64 cars in my life. Yes I'm a car guy. I have always liked and owned 6 Volvos over the years. I liked the safety and "solid ride and handling" attributes of Volvo. I currently own a 2014 Subaru Outback and very impressed with the Symmetrical AWD and safety issues. The car feels very "surefooted" and very comfortable. I've driven both the Forrester but prefer the ride and comfort of the Outback. I read somewhere, insurance companies charge lower premiums for the Outback due to "station wagon" status vs. "SUV" status of the Forrester. Not sure if that is true, but is something to consider. I consider the Subaru Outback to be on the same level as Volvo SUV's and station wagons.
Great review. I think you have to hold the boot button on the remote for a few seconds, if you don’t and press it quickly and then try to open the tailgate using the button on the tailgate it will confuse the computer so you have to lock the car to reset it. If the car is locked and you want to open the boot not by using the remote I think you have to press the tailgate button twice (for some reason). Not sure why Subaru didn’t put a keyless sensor like on the front doors to make it easier to open while carrying something; saving costs I guess. The new generation Outback has this feature though. I bought a three-year-old 2016 Outback premium last year. I was considering the Passat Alltrack but I wanted more ground clearance for off-roading and for easier entry and exit. In Australia the Passat Alltrack is a little more expensive to buy new, service and repair than the Outback so that was also a consideration.
With roads being neglected worldwide, this is becoming very necessary. I live in South Africa and the roads are falling to pieces so Toyota has just been dominating but Subaru has a solid following too.
I go to Subaru. In my country ( Slovakia ) We have bad roads so it is good car. For me it is better look car than Passat. But the Color on test car is bad. I will Buy Ountback in Black. 😊 Thank you for this test
Hi, Thanks for the review - tried the CVT Diesel version but found it too noisy so bought the petrol version on your recommendation and love it. Very spacious for the price and the adaptive cruise control is great for my York to Leeds commute every day. Just wish I could get more mpg out of it !! Great reviews keep them coming !!
Hallo! Thomas. I enjoy your video from Japan every time. Your pronouce SUBARU is almost like original Japanese. SUBARU is brand name, not comapny name. Company name is FUJI-Heavy Industris.
Excellent review Thomas ! I would go for the VW Passat Alltrack, because now with B8 version, it's a premium car, has one of the best transmission DSG and high quality overall. But the disadvantage for VW is that hasn't any natural aspirated engine starting with the compact class, since golf 5/octavia 2 which was 1.6 mpi 102 hp not very performant, but very durable for a normal driver and with the consumption at the same level with 1.2 tsi 105 hp but without turbo and downsizing which means a longer life for the engine.
Hi Thomas, I was waiting for this review, I was looking for you going through the small details; great work as always! I like it the Premium trim level and the painting coat white or dark gray, it looks great. This is a very interesting car, I only wish it had a more refined interior, but to me it's a go for instead of a SUV. Greetings from Colombia, keep up with the great videos! :)
Go in to a mountain town in Appalachia and it seems like 50% of the cars are Subarus. many of then are rusty and dented but still running. Rugged, reliable, and practical. The flat 6 version seems to be the best pick, only 2 mpg real world difference with smoother and easier acceleration.
+Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this Oh, well I always thought CR was a bit more accurate than the EPA for the way I drive, but that's just my experience with the cars I've owned.
when you buy a subaru you dont buy it for the tech or the looks, you buy it for its durability and awd system. you have to realise to be able to have awd for this price you need to cheap out and thats what subaru did. you cant expect a 4wd car for the price of a base passat. subaru wil cheap out on everything they can. you dont buy a subaru for tech or looks, you buy it for its reliable awd system and durable engines only rivaled by toyota. the one thing you can expect from a subaru is to take you from point A to point B in the hardest weather.
I agree but Subaru made a huge mistake taking the CVT Jatco transmissions. If you own one you will get or got a letter that they extend the warranty for 10 years but still, if it breaks at 150.000 miles and it is 10 years old the car is basically totaled. I think reliability will go down now after the first CVT breaking now. They should havr convinced their business partners over at Toyota to buy their Aisin Seiki Toyota CVT transmissions, instead of this unreliable Jatco junk.
@@karinnebe4104 They have this CVT since over 11 years now and I have yet to hear about big reliability issues. Yes, they sometimes break ... as every transmission can, even manual ones. They need to be serviced though accordingly to the "severe driving conditions" table in the manual. I'd take it over their competitors dual clutch transmissions any time for sure. ^^ Quite a lot cars at 150,000 miles are less worth than a new transmission, and it is not at all uncommon to have something expensive break at that point. Only sane option is to get used parts.
Very Good detailed review! I really appreciate your mention of RPM. I test drove 2017 outback earlier this week and I noticed exactly same high RPM sound. My 2014 accord never make a sound like that. At first I thought that RPM sound is because of smaller Subaru engine (I was wrong) and may be Accord has a better/bigger engine and that is why I dont hear it in Accord. But over all I think this is a good buy in its category specially in US of A :). I think I may get one this week-end.
Excellent review Thomas! As you say, this car seems to be pretty good in almost all aspects. But there is nothing that makes me want to own (or even drive) one. It's not ugly, but nothing about the design really appeals to me. It seems to drive quite well, but it doesn't seem to ever seduce you to take the long way home.. And I really don't like a CVT, the situation where you step on the gas and the revs go up and just seem to stay there somehow irritates me. And although I see the appeal of naturally aspirated engines, I must say I do not really share your preference. I really like the modern turbo engines. They have a lot of torque at low revs, which is where I spend most time in daily driving. I really enjoy that. I do totally agree with your point about the higher complexity of a turbo engine, though. As for the choice between this Subaru and a Passat alltrack, it will not surprise you that I would choose the Passat. In harvard blue please! :-)
very good interior camera work ! diesel version has very noticeable turbo lag, and bad engine sound. diesel also seem to not have S model in transmission and engine autostop. paddle shifters work also in auto mode, and CVT returns to auto mode if speed is constant for some time. hatch (without electirc drive) often not closing from first attempt, and have to repeat sometime multiple times, harder and harder S mode for CVT mostly impacts minimal rpm limit, and how fast cvt will respond to throttle changes, also braking with engine in S mode is often usable for slow decelerations in town. cvt is briliant for "no hury" driving style, silky smooth speed change up and down, barely hearable engine. not so briliant for max accelerations, sound levels often make you expect faster acceleration. mirrorlink would work with android 4.2 4.3 number of samsung models, but no luck with newer versions :( passat would be generally faster sportier car due to turbo, but otherwise very much comparable to outback, and for me DSG was main reason why not VW family model for my next new car. previous car experience...
Hi Thomas. Your gloves added a new dimension to your presentation of the interior! I like it. Perhaps the Autogefühl logo would make them official 😄 Do you see many Subarus in Deutschland? My 83yr old neighbour is extremely happy with his new one. Seriously! Nice guy. Married to a super german woman. She brings us delicious homemade german sweets. Deliziosi! Also, if you have this channel long into the future, your height will change from 186cm.
+Mario Dalla Riva haha =) No not so many Subarus here, not much car sales in Germany. I hope my height wont change. And as I dont drink any cow's milk anymore, I also dont swallow any growth hormones :)
Hi Thomas I live in Australia and in 2017 I ordered a 3.6r Outback which took 5 months to be delivered from Japan (the colour Venetian Red; Bone leather upholstery; with the 3.6 motor) weren't available, hence the long wait As far as the fuel consumption of the six cylinder over the four cylinder I always put that to the driving style of the individual and road traffic conditions. I often get under 10L/100 Kim and quite often under 9L/100klm having the extra power of the six cylinder I don't need to plant my accelerator to keep up with traffic, mind you if I get a bit boisterous with my driving I will be visiting my Service station more often. Yes the 2.5l might give better fuel economy but not that much to worry about if you drive sensible I must also state that I'm retired and don't drive in peak hour traffic also I'm in the outskirt of Sydney and don't have many traffic lights to contend with as for the power switches it is known that they only change shift points in the case of the Outback CVT it will let the rev's go Higher (Best Power/Toque range) I tested the Power buttons whilst on a flat road maintaining a preset speed on cruise control the moment one of the buttons was pressed the tacho would jump up as if I've gone down a gear which would give me a sportier driving this is my first Subaru and I'm that impressed with the car that I went and bought a 2002 H6 Outback (my shopping car) this car had 250000 plus km it now has over 278000 Kim with no issues By the way the older and lighter 2002 outback uses more fuel than the 2017 outback the 2002 generally uses 1lt more per 100km Ciao Alf Zappala
+Mesut Taşdemir My roommate has one and it has been amazing. Absolutely no warranty repairs. With Toyota's help and the use of their parts bin, they keep the prices very low. If you have the money, the Boxer 6 is well worth the money.
+Autogefühl This car is, I believe, why so many competitors don't bring wagons/estate to America. You can have the Outback with the Boxer 6 for US$10,000 cheaper than a Volvo XC70 or the Volvo S60 Cross Country.
Mesut Taşdemir Gasoline or Diesel, I'd be confident in many years to repair free driving. Unfortunately, diesel engine isn't available in the US. We get the 6 instead.
I would have the Subaru also because of the off road capability but I live in a city and the only time I would use 4WD is when it snows. So my joins would be Passat but I understand why others would disagree
Thanks! I'll try to start pronouncing it, Zoo-bah'--roo. Seriously, let me ask you something. I am planning to buy a new car and one of my candidates is the Subaru Outback (there are others). I am one of your subscribers and, in my opinion, your auto review videos are the best on the internet (and there are many good "competitors"). Your descriptions, explanations of functions/features big and small, camera shots inside and out and, especially, test rides are excellent. Your commentary with all its honesty, and at times subtlety, is what I like most. Is it possible for you to have an alphabetical list, an index, of all vehicles reviewed by Autogefuhl such that the viewer could click onto one of them activating that video? As it is now, a viewer has to scroll down visually scanning each and every thumbnail which is tedious, error-prone, and, for me, difficult on the eyes. Thank-you.
thanks man, really appreciate it! Best way is to use the general youtube search, just type in "autogefuehl brandname modelname" so whatever you are searching for! Also scroll some playlists in every video description
Great review, as usual. I was wondering how the Outback matches the Tiguan TSI which you tested a couple of days ago. Could you share your thoughts on engines, interior space and quality and trunk volume for these two cars compared to each other. Thanks.
I have myself a 2.0 d Outback 2015, actually my 4th Outback in 6 years, and my 6 th Subaru overall. It is for sure a good car, however ONLY if you pay an "USA" price for it becomes a good deal. The actual Outback is carry on some weaknesses: - engines, on the lower limit of acceptance, regarding performance and fuel economy; explainable only if you understand that over 60% of the sales are done in USA, where diesel is no subject and fuel economy have different meaning. The 3,6 l engine offers also some performance, there. - a lower sens of practicality than expected: no "go trough" on the back seat, or 40/20/40 split, no spare wheel, (for a car with off road vocation? Are you nuts, Subaru people?); no fabric trailer hitch; no parking sensors; etc - emergency braking is a lot behind best European models, (distance, stability). However, the interior design made a big forward step from the previous generation, the general comfort is better, CVT seems a little bit more classical automatic gearbox alike, the Eye sight is a real "must" for little money, and also, the qualities of the previous model has been carried on: excellent interior space, good long term comfort on the front seats, firm but comfortable suspension, (even better now). Actually an excellent all rounder, truly sophisticated in some regards, but stubborn conservative in some others... By the way, I drove two years ago a Passat Alltrack for comparing. Conclusion: there is no way to substitute them. The Alltrack is a Clark Gable playing cowboy, the Outback is a cowboy on his Sunday suit.
I have just watched this video and it fills me with confidence as I have ordered a 2019 2.5 Outback here in England and I am very much looking forward to driving and living with it as my everyday car. My other car is an Audi Q7 which is my main tow car for my caravan. It will be an interesting comparison!
How's it going with the outback, Roger? Interested to see what you think compared to the Audi build quality. Looking for something decent to deal with the lovely British potholes :)
@@davecobb5649 I absolutely love the Outback Dave, I've had it 2yrs now. The only problem to date was the central multifunction touchscreen died on me, it was replaced by the dealer at about 10 months old and has been perfect since. The car is amazing for getting about in difficult conditions such as deep muddy tracks etc especially if the X mode is engaged. It is comfy and confidence inspiring, economy is about 30mpg and this is with a lot of local short work (2-3 miles max). This mpg goes up to 40+ if I do a longer journey with motorway etc. In comparison the Audi is obviously quieter but despite air suspension is not so precise on the road handling wise. Obviously 272bhp means the Q7 has the upper hand on grunt but the Outback has enough for my needs and never feels lacking although the engine is noisier as the revs rise, pottering about it's almost silent. The Audi has had various recalls and updates, the biggest problem being the electric tailgate refusing to shut securely. If I had to make a choice between the two, I would definitely keep the Outback and sell the Audi... but my wife would do the opposite!
@@joshnnik Thanks, Roger. Do you find the 2.5 petrol has enough go? I'm driving a petrol vrs at the moment, so going from turbo to NA petrol will be interesting. I'll have a test drive once lock down eases, but it will be up against the Passat alltrack.
@@davecobb5649 I think the quoted output is 175bhp and yes, it’s enough for what I use it for. Throttle response is sharpened in the S mode. I think that you will find it quite a bit softer compared with your VRS both in performance and suspension but the Subaru AWD is better than the system that VAG use.
Excellent review, which city are you driving in, some nice Art Deco style buildings... Also do you think the 2.5 engine is acceptable in terms of power ? Ich danke sehr.
Your review is a bit easy on the Subaru, I know from experience that The seat are small and cheaply made and uncomfortable . If you have rear passengers, they have no ventilation. CVT does not belong in a 38,000 Euro car.
The original Japanese pronunciation is actually very easy: su-ba-ru; all sounds equally long and unstressed, so similar to the German one but with a n 's' sound at the front :)
Great review Thomas! Thank you. Yes the passat is fab but I'm afraid with dieselgate VW has crossed the ethics line and is off the list. This saddens me because my 2005 TDI wagon is an excellent performer. I wish the subaru diesel was coming to the USA but isn't available due to - again the VW scandal!! I am also looking at the 328d BMW wagon which is a bit tight on space and perhaps has a higher maintenance cost.
Optical system won't work very well in blizzard situations (I own this car). It is an excellent car overall, and the only thing I don't like is the hatch which is unpredictable in my opinion. It is a very well thought car, everything seems to be in place and a really simple car.
Great video Thomas, as usual. I like the car but I am not so sure about the CVT. Additional issue is the trunk opening ... Will consider it if I was in the market for this type of car. (-:
Great review ! Nice vehicle for what it's designed for, but overall needs to be updated to a more modern feeling vehicle.The MMI is very dated but the safety features are on par. , my only concern is the eyesight in snow and poor visibility conditions ,how will it deal with these conditions similar to others when sensors are covered in snow and such .Being behind the wind screen helps to a point . Thanks Joe
thanks! I talked to some Japanese auto managers lately, that's the way it comes closest to the pronunciation. More proper would be even to speak the very ending of the word rather inaudible that you hardly hear the "u", a little bit lit "Subarh" :)
Thanks for the great review Thomas, as always! Personally, I would go for the Passat Alltrack without a seconds hesitation. But looks are a very subjective thing. @ Zach, why not also consider the Skoda Octavia Scout? Granted, it's in the segment below, but had great build quality, 610 litres boot space, lots of engines to choose from, AWD, loads of options as standard, DSG, and more, and all that for less money ;). What do you think Thomas, everyone? Would love to see an Autogefühl review of it. Worth considering imho (yes, biaised opinion)
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Got my new Outback Sport Premium CVT diesel in November 2015, and the conclusion is that I am very satisfied. Lives in mid Norway, and drives about 45 000 km/year. My previous car was a 2012 VW Passat Variant Highline 4motion 140hk TDCi manual. Also A very god car. Advantages with the Subaru: Better 4WD system, it is permanent. Driving in winter on snow, and sometimes wet ice with a caravan: the Subaru is outstanding. Permanent symetrical AWD beats the Haldex system clearly. And with automatisk level control on the real axle the Subaru is an encellet towing car. 20 cm ground clearance makes a huge diffence passing speed bumps, going on offroad tracks and in deep snow. Feel safe all the time. And my wife likes to sit into a car, not down in a car. Overwiew from the driver position is also superb. The new VW Passat looks really nice, better than the Subaru Outback. I really wanted to have "the active screen display" in my dashboard. But for me the Outback is great in total.
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Autogefuhl - best car reviews online - intricate detail well presented - Thomas is a class act..
thanks kevin !!
I also would go for the Subaru. I like it's function over form instead of the Passat form over function.
I also like the design of the Subaru. Inside it is hugh and you can control things even with gloves on.
Also the seats on the latest version were great! And it looks like this are the same seats. Even better on comfort than Volvo seats.
I really like the car!
The Passad ? give a break... Subaru outback is superior.No questions!!!
Thanks to the Autogefuhl crew! Living in the US and i did the TDI buyback on a 2012 VW Golf 2.0L TDI. Loved the VW and had Zero issues after 80,000 miles. Unfortunately, We don't have the Passat Alltrack available or even the Passat wagon. We needed to get a wagon or SUV for our family of 3 and our 80lb German Shepherd. The wagon style was preferred to a have a lower height for the dog to enter and exit the rear. The Golf Alltrack is not in the same size class and was too small. We also looked at Volvo V60 Crosscountry.....still to small in the rear. We bought last week a Subaru Outback 2.5i Limited Trim and could not be happier. Thanks for the review and outstanding attention to details on the review. This gave me many comparison points I may have missed just going in and looking myself and shopping at the dealerships. Well done!
thanks michael and take care !
Any chance of you getting your hands on the 2023 Outback Touring? Would love to see your review of it.
Wonderful review of a great car. I'm a great fan of Outbacks, but then I've owned one for 14 years without repairing a single thing (beyond replacing consumable parts). Thomas approaches each car prepared to like it. He has judgment and is knowledgeable, and yet he is appropriately modest about issues where other people might well have different views. I understand he is more than busy doing these reviews, but if he had time for other projects he could do well as a narrator for documentaries or reading children's stories. His voice is soothing.
thanks Steve! Keep following us!
This is one of the best interior-designs to date. I love the flat and tidy dashboard. This alone is reason enough to decide for a Subaru.
Nice review! We just bought the 2018 model in the USA. We compared it with the Forester and found it slightly more comfortable and not as noisy on the highway. We also like the roomy cargo area, but the main feature for us, which is not always mentioned in reviews, is the amazing ground clearance you get with these vehicles. The 2018 has 8.7 inches of clearance, which we really need where we live. I really liked my previous vehicle, but because of our rough winter roads and dirt roads, this car with AWD and excellent ground clearance privides superior handling.
Thx for the feedback!!
Another great review. When deciding between vehicles I think it's also important to take a look and compare the crash test ratings, reliability histories, fuel economy, insurance rates, and resale values.
Yes. Resale is probably market-specific. Reliability though is crucial. Difficult though as reviewers are commenting only on their few hours with the vehicle. And it also gets very hard for them to recommend German over Japanese brands which is unfortunately a pre-requisite for European reviewers.
Regarding the rear gate, if you press the button on the gate once it will open automatically, but if you press and hold the button it will unlock only.
Went for the 2017 Outback 2.5 Premium because of This Video!!! Did not know that Germany would be the one to have me buy a Subaru here in the States. This car is pretty big. He's just tall LOL. probably an average height in Germany. Thanks Autogefuhl!
appreciated and enjoy it !
How do you like it? Is 2,5 enough for normal everyday use?
I really liked your detailed test of this car. I'm going to have a test drive of a 2016 model tomorrow, and this test really helped me to know that I would like to have a car like this for me and my family. Thank you. 👍
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Glad it was helpful! 😎👍
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Bought a 2017 Outback Limited trim here in the US. Was due to the VW TDI Buyback and the family also needed more room. After 8k miles on ours we absolutely love it. Very comfortable for the long trips of 6 plus hours and got 25.2 mpg over a trip of 392 miles one way. most travel was on highway @75-80 Mph. Really looked hard at the VW Golf Alltrack in SE or SEL Trims too when we were trying to make up our mind for our new wagon. The Subaru Outback although not a fast as the Alltrack seems very comfortable at highway speeds as long as you are not climbing big hills. The 2.5L boxer and the transmission show they are a bit week. the 3.6L 6 cylinder boxer .....I have test drove and think that would cure my want on the long hill climbs. the Eyesight Adaptive Cruise is outstanding! If you buy one you will not be disappointed for a great family utility car that isn't a big lumbering SUV. on the Plus it has more room than many small to midsize SUVs.
+Pimpslapovich thanks for the feedback!
Thomas, would like to thank you. You are the great reviewer I have ever seen and doing your job the best! I watch your videos with pleasure!
+Vyacheslav Lobintsev so glad to hear that, keep supporting us and spread the word!
Hey! I just bought one! I'm extremely happy!
Very thorough review. I have a 2015 Premium 2.5i and agree with just about all of his comments. The power tailgate is a bit finicky at times for me also but the rest of the Outback works just fine. I noticed a few differences between the Deutsche version and the USA version ; cup holder center console a bit different and fog lights are smaller on the Euro version, also the back seat head rests are the nicer contoured style vs the bulkier US style. The CVT transmission will conform to your driving style after a while, it learns the way a person drives in a way. Thanks for a great review Thomas.
+Steve Malon thanks for the feedback steve!
How's the fuel consumption on your Outback ?
Here in Canada I fell in love with this car and test drove it many times. Its center of gravity feels lower than other crossovers and I felt that the driving was safe and confident. Steering and handling is electric like most cars now but in this one it felt much more natural than other electric steering in its competitors. I almost bought one to replace my Jeep Patriot but finally went for the Outlander 2016 from Mitsubishi because I got a much better deal. Subaru dealers here are snob. I think Subaru always designed very plain SUVs that are functional more than seducing and they are drawn as if to please a more conservative senior clients. Despite its new body, this one too seems on the plain side. On the other hand it has all what one needs in harsh winters like the ones we have here. Also I wanted its symetrical AWD and ground clearance for my outdoors activity. One thing I noticed is that your European model is more refined especially on the inside than the North American one. On the outside your rear bottom part is much nicer than the NA version that has the same rear bottom as the previous model. I do not know why but here they left few elements from the previous generation including the pedestal and shifting gear etc. If we compare the same trims (mid level one), yours looks and feels more upscale and has more features. All in all this is a practical car for outdoors life style and even if I am now satisfied with my Mitsubishi Outlander 2016, I still prefer this one :)
+kallasnikov very interesting thanks !
Very thorough review there Thomas, really appreciate the small clever details and some needing work within the vehicle. The Passat Alltrack might have a better exterior, well made classier interior presentation and also be good with off-roading but I think the Subaru Outback the more competent of the two in most rough conditions depending on your lifestyle.
Can't wait for your review on upcoming Alfa Romeo Stelvio and maybe all-new Mazda CX-5..
thanks m8 !
Hello, I'm from Lithuania.
There are a lot of Subaru cars. Outback is really popular and competes with "Passat Alltrack" or "Passat Variant" in Lithuania. Actually, I allways see more Outbacks, than Passat Alltracks here, that is for any generation of these cars. I also tested both of them.
I can say, that mild "offroading" with Subaru, really feels safer and more confident, than with the Passat. So, if you live in places, harder to reach in winter, I recommend Subaru!
Boot lid... It is strange, when you showed that. Pearson, I've tested Outback with, bought that car and everything works properly. So, it might have been the fault of your specific vehicle. ...Which is strange for "reliable" Subaru. :-D
"Eye Sight" system... I agree with you, it works really well. Here is our subjective validation of EyeSight system reliability:
Day time, good weather ~100%
Day time, rain ~ 90 - 95%
Day time, fog ~ 70 - 80%
Night time, good weather ~ 95 - 100%
Night time, rain ~ 70%
Night time, fog ~ 50 - 60%
As an engineer, I can tell... They've made really good system with what they have. It's not as advanced as Mercedes, Volvo, Tesla, Audi, BMW systems, but reliability is impressive (they did it Subaru way... :-D ). They will add radars and ultrasonic sensors, install more powerful hardware, improve their algorithms. From what I've seen so far, the bright future awaits for their Eyesight system.
Also... Your journal "Auto motor und sport" tested major car brands sold in Germany about their real vs. advertised consumption. Apparently, Subaru is one of the most honest about their economy. :-)
Although, I would like them to offer more powerful engines in the future!
P.S.: Thomas..! ... BMW... 7 series ... review... When..? :-D
+Jonas Čijauskas Very interesting, thanks! So you would say that sensor is better at night than camera system?
7-Series in April :)
As I said, Subaru system is good. But when illumination of the road gets worse (fog, rain, country road with limited illumination...), stereo cameras becomes limited... Imagine... how well does your camera film in the limited illumination environment? :-D Eyesight works good in the dark, but DARK + RAIN = NOT so well... :-D
So for the night, you need cameras + radar(lidar for e.g. :-) ).
Actually, you should make a video about autonomous tech in cars. Bosch is working on integrated system and Nvidia - on computers for autonomous cars. You should try them at first. :-) This thing becomes very popular within car industry.
+Jonas Čijauskas very interesting
It is a fantastic review. All fans from souteast europe must watch it since we don't have here any chance to test 2.5L petrol engine. The only think i missed, was the way this car behaves in a high speed ride. In regard with this aspect the amount of fuel consumption would be also very interesting.
Because I trust autogefuel i want to express my gratitude because this channel helps me very much to find a proper new car for me and my family.
+Alexander Georgiev not a high speed ride car. Gets to unstable suspension wise ! thanks man !
I love the rugged design of the Out Back. I would not change a thing, however the terrain I live around calls for ruggedness. Almost Heaven, West Virginia. I'm totally surrounded by jumbled mountains.
+Ronnie Murphy nice !
Outstanding review! I and my wife am waiting for the Golf Sportwagen Alltrack to come out here in the States this fall and have viewed that review as well (which was also excellent). The Golf Sportwagen Alltrack is what we are leaning towards since we are longtime VW owners Jettas, Passats(A sedan and wagon B5 4motion). and Golfs(MK IV and VI). I have test driven the Outback and also found it very well put together and comfortable to drive. As I am 190cm and getting older (mid 40's) I am hoping the Alltrack has a better feel getting in and out vs the regular Sportwagen which is quite low. Getting in and out of the Outback was very nice and a potential selling point along with the extra room vs the Alltrack. I was also very impressed with the Eyesight system when driving.
thanks! Also see the Passat Alltrack, as the Outback is rather vs Passat than vs Golf
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I have 2019 outback! This car run great and is perfect for me ! Thank you Subaru
Your English is really good! Thank you for the review!
+János Kovács thanks man!
One thing I really dislike about subaru in europe (Germany) is their tendency to push the cvt transmission by forcing the customer to buy it if he wants a certain trim level.. I prefer manual transmission over automatic with gears. I gave the cvt a try in my current prius. Even after 8 years I still can't get used to it. It feels more like a scooter than a car.
I love subaru for their simplicity, durability and function over form attitude. Actually I like the designs very much. I even don't care about the higher fuel consumption or that everything seems to be a little bit of yesterdays news.
What drives me mad is I want to buy a Subaru but there is no model in a satisfying manual shifting version available in the higher trim levels and with a stronger engines (which I need to pull a trailer).
You can't get a sport trim with manual shifting. Why not?
I love the Levorg. It would be THE perfect car for me. Only one version. cvt... I guess I'll give it a try at my local dealership but I am pretty sceptic. Why would you spend so much money for a car that is all around nice but you almost puke when you tread on the gas pedal.
1st world problems....
And....did you go for the Levorg?
Thank you, Autogefuhl for a thorough review- the Passat all-road is not available in the USA - only the Audi, which is much more expensive. VW is going to buy back my TDi because it pollutes the air; I am not very pleased with VW because they sold me a diesel engine that did not comply with the law. I am definitely going to buy the OUTBACK 3.6R (6-cylinder) because it is smooth on the road, and good off-road. In the USA, SUBARU has a very good reputation for reliability.
I am in the same boat with a Golf TDI but am also looking at the VW Golf Sportwagen Alltrack that is supposed to come out in the fall of 2016. I have test driven the Outback and liked it a lot. Much better than I had expected with a CVT.
Paul Bishop I think there are a lot of us in the same boat right now. I've got a '12 Golf that there're buying back and this is one of the replacements I'm contemplating. While I really like the new Alltrack I really like the extra room in the Outback. I guess it comes down to the actual buy back of my Golf. I think they're gonna throw in a sweetener when you take your car in for the check. They need to do everything they can to keep customers in their cars!
Motorep - the buyback should start after the judge gives final approval on Oct. 18th -- did you sign in on the website yet? I have already accepted the final buyback price. Enter your VIN number at www.vwcourtsettlement.com/en/
Yes, I've already sent them copies of my title and registration so I'm deep into the buyback process. I'm leaning toward the 3.6R Outback Limited at this time but still want to see what VW will do in the end. Anything the throw in over $2K might sway my decision back to the Alltrack. However, after looking at both in person yesterday I really do prefer the extra room in the Subie!
Is there somewhere we can talk privately? As soon as I get the VW
money (they're giving me almost what I paid for it. 2014 JSW Tdi) I'm
going to the dealer - Thomas' review above was so persuasive that I'm
inclined to an Outback 3.6R - not the Limited cos I don't want leather
and do want roof-rails.
Torn between "Soo-baru" and Toyota 4Runner, just because it has a high seat. Bad back needs a good seat.
Excellent review. Great presentation by the reviewer and superb video work. This has to be one of the best and most thorough Subaru Outback reviews available on TH-cam. I do like the console layout of the European version of the Outback compared to the one available in the USA. The cupholders on the USA version are on the side of the console nearest the passenger.
+Darin Kerr thanks so much! Spread the word for us !
Our three Outbacks have a combined 760000 Km on it. They have proven to be extremely reliable.
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This car is nice an big. Subaru is one of the leading company on the AWD system.
I would say Subaru IS the leading Company for AWD
Very Impressive Review ..I brought the 3.6r and Love it
thanks for the feedback!
Business as usual at Autogefuhl. Excellent review. Keep bringing in the good stuff and thank you Thomas!
+Rabih Tabbara keep supporting us!
You get so much for the money! I have two and may get a third! Great review Sir!
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I just purchased a 2016 outback with 33,000 miles. Not one to buy new. I am very happy with my purchase however, I purchased mine with a 3.6R. Gas is good but not great with the 3.6R but I knew that going in. I can't compare this car to VW since I had my mind set up anyway. Thank you for your review.
Thanks and enjoy 😊
Solid review. The outback is on the top of my list thanks to your advice
+Wolfgang Trupp 👌
Your review has answered all my questions, great review, thank you, from Canada.
+gp2003gt that's the best compliment you can give us. Thanks a lot and stick to us :)
I have owned 64 cars in my life. Yes I'm a car guy. I have always liked and owned 6 Volvos over the years. I liked the safety and "solid ride and handling" attributes of Volvo.
I currently own a 2014 Subaru Outback and very impressed with the Symmetrical AWD and safety issues. The car feels very "surefooted" and very comfortable. I've driven both the Forrester but prefer the ride and comfort of the Outback.
I read somewhere, insurance companies charge lower premiums for the Outback due to "station wagon" status vs. "SUV" status of the Forrester. Not sure if that is true, but is something to consider.
I consider the Subaru Outback to be on the same level as Volvo SUV's and station wagons.
What engine do you got? I’m also volvo guy considering outback 2018 2,5 right now!
Very professional and thorough. Fantastic review. Subbed.
Thank you!
Loving your reviews. You've got style.
Sasha (Moscow, RU)
+MoogerTuber spassiba!
Have to tap the button on the trunk twice for it to open, from what I've seen ha
We owned 2 out BACK. THEY ARE GREAT!!!
Great review.
I think you have to hold the boot button on the remote for a few seconds, if you don’t and press it quickly and then try to open the tailgate using the button on the tailgate it will confuse the computer so you have to lock the car to reset it. If the car is locked and you want to open the boot not by using the remote I think you have to press the tailgate button twice (for some reason). Not sure why Subaru didn’t put a keyless sensor like on the front doors to make it easier to open while carrying something; saving costs I guess. The new generation Outback has this feature though.
I bought a three-year-old 2016 Outback premium last year. I was considering the Passat Alltrack but I wanted more ground clearance for off-roading and for easier entry and exit. In Australia the Passat Alltrack is a little more expensive to buy new, service and repair than the Outback so that was also a consideration.
Thanks m8!
good thing with Subaru you will never be stuck
With roads being neglected worldwide, this is becoming very necessary. I live in South Africa and the roads are falling to pieces so Toyota has just been dominating but Subaru has a solid following too.
I go to Subaru. In my country ( Slovakia ) We have bad roads so it is good car. For me it is better look car than Passat. But the Color on test car is bad. I will Buy Ountback in Black. 😊
Thank you for this test
+Marek Čička in Sweden the outback lets you choose from only 4 colors, black, hite, dark red and dark blue. I don't like any of them.
+Verliebt In Slovakia you could choose from 8 colors. Go check Subaru Configurator SK 😃😃
I always choose a car....My wife color.... But if I realy dislike it then I usualy said "it would be dirty quickly" :-)
BLACK ???? good luck with all the cleaning and scratches,think again as its the worst choice possible ever.
Great job as always, Thomas!
thank yo buddy!!
Hi,
Thanks for the review - tried the CVT Diesel version but found it too noisy so bought the petrol version on your recommendation and love it.
Very spacious for the price and the adaptive cruise control is great for my York to Leeds commute every day.
Just wish I could get more mpg out of it !!
Great reviews keep them coming !!
+Mark Knight thanks mark glad we could help!
Hallo! Thomas. I enjoy your video from Japan every time. Your pronouce SUBARU is almost like original Japanese. SUBARU is brand name, not comapny name. Company name is FUJI-Heavy Industris.
+HAYATO F great to hear that thanks !!
Excellent review Thomas ! I would go for the VW Passat Alltrack, because now with B8 version, it's a premium car, has one of the best transmission DSG and high quality overall. But the disadvantage for VW is that hasn't any natural aspirated engine starting with the compact class, since golf 5/octavia 2 which was 1.6 mpi 102 hp not very performant, but very durable for a normal driver and with the consumption at the same level with 1.2 tsi 105 hp but without turbo and downsizing which means a longer life for the engine.
+Cris FanCars thanks Cris ! yeah indeed
Hi Thomas, I was waiting for this review, I was looking for you going through the small details; great work as always! I like it the Premium trim level and the painting coat white or dark gray, it looks great. This is a very interesting car, I only wish it had a more refined interior, but to me it's a go for instead of a SUV. Greetings from Colombia, keep up with the great videos! :)
+Pedro Fernández glad u liked it!
Go in to a mountain town in Appalachia and it seems like 50% of the cars are Subarus. many of then are rusty and dented but still running. Rugged, reliable, and practical. The flat 6 version seems to be the best pick, only 2 mpg real world difference with smoother and easier acceleration.
+Jake McCoy Based on Consumer Reports real world testing.
+Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this Oh, well I always thought CR was a bit more accurate than the EPA for the way I drive, but that's just my experience with the cars I've owned.
+Jake McCoy is right but I am going to add this You've won this internet debate. Congratulations...
Very nice review. I think the desegn makes sense because it is meant primarily to be a utilitarian vehicle. They make a BRZ if you want to have fun.
when you buy a subaru you dont buy it for the tech or the looks, you buy it for its durability and awd system. you have to realise to be able to have awd for this price you need to cheap out and thats what subaru did. you cant expect a 4wd car for the price of a base passat.
subaru wil cheap out on everything they can.
you dont buy a subaru for tech or looks, you buy it for its reliable awd system and durable engines only rivaled by toyota.
the one thing you can expect from a subaru is to take you from point A to point B in the hardest weather.
I agree but Subaru made a huge mistake taking the CVT Jatco transmissions. If you own one you will get or got a letter that they extend the warranty for 10 years but still, if it breaks at 150.000 miles and it is 10 years old the car is basically totaled. I think reliability will go down now after the first CVT breaking now. They should havr convinced their business partners over at Toyota to buy their Aisin Seiki Toyota CVT transmissions, instead of this unreliable Jatco junk.
@@karinnebe4104 They have this CVT since over 11 years now and I have yet to hear about big reliability issues. Yes, they sometimes break ... as every transmission can, even manual ones. They need to be serviced though accordingly to the "severe driving conditions" table in the manual. I'd take it over their competitors dual clutch transmissions any time for sure. ^^ Quite a lot cars at 150,000 miles are less worth than a new transmission, and it is not at all uncommon to have something expensive break at that point. Only sane option is to get used parts.
Very Good detailed review! I really appreciate your mention of RPM. I test drove 2017 outback earlier this week and I noticed exactly same high RPM sound. My 2014 accord never make a sound like that. At first I thought that RPM sound is because of smaller Subaru engine (I was wrong) and may be Accord has a better/bigger engine and that is why I dont hear it in Accord. But over all I think this is a good buy in its category specially in US of A :). I think I may get one this week-end.
thanks m8 !
Excellent review Thomas!
As you say, this car seems to be pretty good in almost all aspects. But there is nothing that makes me want to own (or even drive) one. It's not ugly, but nothing about the design really appeals to me. It seems to drive quite well, but it doesn't seem to ever seduce you to take the long way home..
And I really don't like a CVT, the situation where you step on the gas and the revs go up and just seem to stay there somehow irritates me.
And although I see the appeal of naturally aspirated engines, I must say I do not really share your preference. I really like the modern turbo engines. They have a lot of torque at low revs, which is where I spend most time in daily driving. I really enjoy that. I do totally agree with your point about the higher complexity of a turbo engine, though.
As for the choice between this Subaru and a Passat alltrack, it will not surprise you that I would choose the Passat. In harvard blue please! :-)
+artemusje2 very well analyzed m8
Nice car and perfect review as always! And nice new glasses Thomas :)
+Vitalii Gladun oww... about comparison vs Passat - i'll take Subaru every time!!!!
+Vitalii Gladun thanks vitalii ! =)
very good interior camera work !
diesel version has very noticeable turbo lag, and bad engine sound. diesel also seem to not have S model in transmission and engine autostop.
paddle shifters work also in auto mode, and CVT returns to auto mode if speed is constant for some time.
hatch (without electirc drive) often not closing from first attempt, and have to repeat sometime multiple times, harder and harder
S mode for CVT mostly impacts minimal rpm limit, and how fast cvt will respond to throttle changes, also braking with engine in S mode is often usable for slow decelerations in town.
cvt is briliant for "no hury" driving style, silky smooth speed change up and down, barely hearable engine. not so briliant for max accelerations, sound levels often make you expect faster acceleration.
mirrorlink would work with android 4.2 4.3 number of samsung models, but no luck with newer versions :(
passat would be generally faster sportier car due to turbo, but otherwise very much comparable to outback,
and for me DSG was main reason why not VW family model for my next new car. previous car experience...
+Andris Kalns good analysis!
Nice review, well done and very helpful. Thank you!
thanks, tune in for more of our reviews!
Hi Thomas. Your gloves added a new dimension to your presentation of the interior! I like it. Perhaps the Autogefühl logo would make them official 😄
Do you see many Subarus in Deutschland? My 83yr old neighbour is extremely happy with his new one. Seriously!
Nice guy. Married to a super german woman. She brings us delicious homemade german sweets. Deliziosi!
Also, if you have this channel long into the future, your height will change from 186cm.
+Mario Dalla Riva haha =) No not so many Subarus here, not much car sales in Germany. I hope my height wont change. And as I dont drink any cow's milk anymore, I also dont swallow any growth hormones :)
Hi Thomas
I live in Australia and in 2017 I ordered a 3.6r Outback which took 5 months to be delivered from Japan (the colour Venetian Red; Bone leather upholstery; with the 3.6 motor) weren't available, hence the long wait
As far as the fuel consumption of the six cylinder over the four cylinder I always put that to the driving style of the individual and road traffic conditions. I often get under 10L/100 Kim and quite often under 9L/100klm having the extra power of the six cylinder I don't need to plant my accelerator to keep up with traffic, mind you if I get a bit boisterous with my driving I will be visiting my Service station more often. Yes the 2.5l might give better fuel economy but not that much to worry about if you drive sensible
I must also state that I'm retired and don't drive in peak hour traffic also I'm in the outskirt of Sydney and don't have many traffic lights to contend with
as for the power switches it is known that they only change shift points in the case of the Outback CVT it will let the rev's go Higher (Best Power/Toque range)
I tested the Power buttons whilst on a flat road maintaining a preset speed on cruise control the moment one of the buttons was pressed the tacho would jump up as if I've gone down a gear which would give me a sportier driving
this is my first Subaru and I'm that impressed with the car that I went and bought a 2002 H6 Outback (my shopping car) this car had 250000 plus km it now has over 278000 Kim with no issues
By the way the older and lighter 2002 outback uses more fuel than the 2017 outback the 2002 generally uses 1lt more per 100km
Ciao Alf Zappala
thanks for the report Alf !
İ think i found My car :) thank you. i guess Best japaneese car is Subaru
+Mesut Taşdemir thanks 4 watching!
+Mesut Taşdemir My roommate has one and it has been amazing. Absolutely no warranty repairs. With Toyota's help and the use of their parts bin, they keep the prices very low. If you have the money, the Boxer 6 is well worth the money.
+Autogefühl This car is, I believe, why so many competitors don't bring wagons/estate to America. You can have the Outback with the Boxer 6 for US$10,000 cheaper than a Volvo XC70 or the Volvo S60 Cross Country.
+gbriank1 well i think i Will buy Diesel one for economy :) i love this car for smoothnes and build quality.
Mesut Taşdemir Gasoline or Diesel, I'd be confident in many years to repair free driving. Unfortunately, diesel engine isn't available in the US. We get the 6 instead.
I would have the Subaru also because of the off road capability but I live in a city and the only time I would use 4WD is when it snows. So my joins would be Passat but I understand why others would disagree
Wow, look at all those hatchbacks. 31:06
Would love to see more Subaru cars reviewed ;-D
Especially WRX, WRX STI, Levorg, etc.
+Terry Wang Levorg here it is: th-cam.com/video/fWtpNS_9VdE/w-d-xo.html
Nice review, thank you. I saw your review on the xt forester too. Which one do you prefer out of the two? Keep up the good work!
thanks! We ll also soon deliver you the all-new Forester review. Guess I m more into the SUV
Thanks! I'll try to start pronouncing it, Zoo-bah'--roo. Seriously, let me ask you something. I am planning to buy a new car and one of my candidates is the Subaru Outback (there are others). I am one of your subscribers and, in my opinion, your auto review videos are the best on the internet (and there are many good "competitors"). Your descriptions, explanations of functions/features big and small, camera shots inside and out and, especially, test rides are excellent. Your commentary with all its honesty, and at times subtlety, is what I like most. Is it possible for you to have an alphabetical list, an index, of all vehicles reviewed by Autogefuhl such that the viewer could click onto one of them activating that video? As it is now, a viewer has to scroll down visually scanning each and every thumbnail which is tedious, error-prone, and, for me, difficult on the eyes. Thank-you.
thanks man, really appreciate it!
Best way is to use the general youtube search, just type in "autogefuehl brandname modelname" so whatever you are searching for!
Also scroll some playlists in every video description
Very unassuming and tough looking car....love it!
Wonderful review! Very helpful as we shop for the next family car.
thanks jeff, join more of our reviews!
Best car reviews!
+Lu M always in your service!
Great review, as usual.
I was wondering how the Outback matches the Tiguan TSI which you tested a couple of days ago. Could you share your thoughts on engines, interior space and quality and trunk volume for these two cars compared to each other. Thanks.
+Stefan thanks! The Outback is a good car. The Tiguan is a great car.
I have myself a 2.0 d Outback 2015, actually my 4th Outback in 6 years, and my 6 th Subaru overall. It is for sure a good car, however ONLY if you pay an "USA" price for it becomes a good deal.
The actual Outback is carry on some weaknesses:
- engines, on the lower limit of acceptance, regarding performance and fuel economy; explainable only if you understand that over 60% of the sales are done in USA, where diesel is no subject and fuel economy have different meaning. The 3,6 l engine offers also some performance, there.
- a lower sens of practicality than expected: no "go trough" on the back seat, or 40/20/40 split, no spare wheel, (for a car with off road vocation? Are you nuts, Subaru people?); no fabric trailer hitch; no parking sensors; etc
- emergency braking is a lot behind best European models, (distance, stability).
However, the interior design made a big forward step from the previous generation, the general comfort is better, CVT seems a little bit more classical automatic gearbox alike, the Eye sight is a real "must" for little money, and also, the qualities of the previous model has been carried on: excellent interior space, good long term comfort on the front seats, firm but comfortable suspension, (even better now). Actually an excellent all rounder, truly sophisticated in some regards, but stubborn conservative in some others...
By the way, I drove two years ago a Passat Alltrack for comparing. Conclusion: there is no way to substitute them. The Alltrack is a Clark Gable playing cowboy, the Outback is a cowboy on his Sunday suit.
+Florin Marcu thanks for the feedback !
I have just watched this video and it fills me with confidence as I have ordered a 2019 2.5 Outback here in England and I am very much looking forward to driving and living with it as my everyday car.
My other car is an Audi Q7 which is my main tow car for my caravan. It will be an interesting comparison!
Enjoy! And pls recommend us :)
How's it going with the outback, Roger? Interested to see what you think compared to the Audi build quality. Looking for something decent to deal with the lovely British potholes :)
@@davecobb5649 I absolutely love the Outback Dave, I've had it 2yrs now. The only problem to date was the central multifunction touchscreen died on me, it was replaced by the dealer at about 10 months old and has been perfect since. The car is amazing for getting about in difficult conditions such as deep muddy tracks etc especially if the X mode is engaged. It is comfy and confidence inspiring, economy is about 30mpg and this is with a lot of local short work (2-3 miles max). This mpg goes up to 40+ if I do a longer journey with motorway etc. In comparison the Audi is obviously quieter but despite air suspension is not so precise on the road handling wise. Obviously 272bhp means the Q7 has the upper hand on grunt but the Outback has enough for my needs and never feels lacking although the engine is noisier as the revs rise, pottering about it's almost silent. The Audi has had various recalls and updates, the biggest problem being the electric tailgate refusing to shut securely.
If I had to make a choice between the two, I would definitely keep the Outback and sell the Audi... but my wife would do the opposite!
@@joshnnik Thanks, Roger. Do you find the 2.5 petrol has enough go? I'm driving a petrol vrs at the moment, so going from turbo to NA petrol will be interesting. I'll have a test drive once lock down eases, but it will be up against the Passat alltrack.
@@davecobb5649 I think the quoted output is 175bhp and yes, it’s enough for what I use it for. Throttle response is sharpened in the S mode. I think that you will find it quite a bit softer compared with your VRS both in performance and suspension but the Subaru AWD is better than the system that VAG use.
Excellent review, which city are you driving in, some nice Art Deco style buildings... Also do you think the 2.5 engine is acceptable in terms of power ? Ich danke sehr.
Thanks! Yeah sure is
Excellent review.
Thank you buddy!
You missed the electric tailgate child safety test.
+ast5515 went quite well here. Did it off camera later, yes.
What an excellent review!
+Rishi thanks!!
Your review is a bit easy on the Subaru, I know from experience that The seat are small and cheaply made and uncomfortable . If you have rear passengers, they have no ventilation. CVT does not belong in a 38,000 Euro car.
+serge vivier thanks for the feedback !
The original Japanese pronunciation is actually very easy: su-ba-ru; all sounds equally long and unstressed, so similar to the German one but with a n 's' sound at the front :)
+Bert Leysen great thanks ! =)
Reminds me of the newer Vauxhalls from the front eg Insignia, Astra etc
Very nice review Thomas.
Thank you keep joining us
I really like this vehicle thank you Thomas.
thanks mehmet !
Great review Thomas! Thank you.
Yes the passat is fab but I'm afraid with dieselgate VW has crossed the ethics line and is off the list. This saddens me because my 2005 TDI wagon is an excellent performer. I wish the subaru diesel was coming to the USA but isn't available due to - again the VW scandal!! I am also looking at the 328d BMW wagon which is a bit tight on space and perhaps has a higher maintenance cost.
+rcpmac thanks ! You can be sure that other manufacturers do similar things but it hasnt been found out / published yet
Subaru is much better function....If you want a car for looking then get a VW But Subaru will be better in snow and off road.
Love the German accent 👍
Optical system won't work very well in blizzard situations (I own this car). It is an excellent car overall, and the only thing I don't like is the hatch which is unpredictable in my opinion.
It is a very well thought car, everything seems to be in place and a really simple car.
+mclaren855 interesting feedback !
Great video Thomas, as usual. I like the car but I am not so sure about the CVT. Additional issue is the trunk opening ... Will consider it if I was in the market for this type of car.
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+Gil Moskovich I now heard that you have to tip the trunk opening VERY gently so you dont creat any upward force - then it obviously works better :)
Great in depth review.
thx keep tuning in to autogefuehl
Great review ! Nice vehicle for what it's designed for, but overall needs to be updated to a more modern feeling vehicle.The MMI is very dated but the safety features are on par. , my only concern is the eyesight in snow and poor visibility conditions ,how will it deal with these conditions similar to others when sensors are covered in snow and such .Being behind the wind screen helps to a point .
Thanks
Joe
+TechExplorer good points!
How do paddle shifters working a CVT? Is it just a gimmick? Love your videos Thomas. I decided on a Mercedes GLC coming from a Honda CR-V.
good point. Its about holding the revs in a corner ("shifting down") for example or to tell the car you want to lower the revs ("shifting up")
excellent review! - reason for me to buy the unit =)
Form over function. I like it but then I am biased, I own a 2014 Forester.
I am biased too, so I call the opposition "V-dud".
Wow, this is my fav car! Nice video.
Thx!
Ohh, and I really enjoy your videos
Hey nice video! You should do the 2018 Outback!
thanks! Outback hasnt changed, has it ?
@@autogefuehl But the 2020 model has changed pretty siginificantly, so I hope we get your review when it finally arrives to EU :)
At 28:37, "always pay attention to crazy driver" Thomas Majchrzak (2016).
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Are you going to test the Mini Clubman as well? Curious what you think about this car.
Love your accent. By the way, interesting how you pronounce Subaru. I shall follow your lead!
thanks! I talked to some Japanese auto managers lately, that's the way it comes closest to the pronunciation. More proper would be even to speak the very ending of the word rather inaudible that you hardly hear the "u", a little bit lit "Subarh" :)
Thanks for the great review Thomas, as always! Personally, I would go for the Passat Alltrack without a seconds hesitation. But looks are a very subjective thing. @ Zach, why not also consider the Skoda Octavia Scout? Granted, it's in the segment below, but had great build quality, 610 litres boot space, lots of engines to choose from, AWD, loads of options as standard, DSG, and more, and all that for less money ;). What do you think Thomas, everyone? Would love to see an Autogefühl review of it. Worth considering imho (yes, biaised opinion)
+jibx 34 thanks we ll try to do that :)
i love subaru but dont like the fuel cab is on the right and the roof rails in usa are different
Thank you Thomas, nice test nice vehicle
+Mehmet Bakır thanks for the support!