The final uphill grade on the tram line is too steep for conventional rail train. The tram driver positions the tram uphill from the cable tractor. The two vehicles do no connect. The tram driver remotely controls the tractor which pushes the tram uphill. The tractor operates as a conventional funicular. Gravity holds the vehicles together. On the way down, the tractor brakes the tram.
I think that when the trams are in "funicular" mode they're not controlled by the drivers, when the downhill tram arrives and sets against the ram carriage, the driver sends a "ready" signal to a control room uphill, if the descending tram has sent the ready signal as well the ram carriages are started, when trams stop at the intermediate station, they will send ready signal when they're done with passengers, when the tram arrives downhill the control room waits for the ready signal from the next tram
You are right, the trams are indeed connected. The descending tram 'pushes' the ascending tram (or vice verso) with the help of the 2 carts which are connected by the cable in the middle. We did this trip twice when in Trieste, there's an amazing cave of more than 110 meters high at the end.
When I was a kid I went out with an Italian called Laura Rhodio. She studied in Trieste and I went there to see her. All the Italians I met treated me like a king and brought me out everywhere. I will never forget it. Gratzie! :)
Robbie Hagberg and Sue Hagberg call you back and get the car and get it tomorrow and I can go to me please thanks for the money I have to go to the store for the money for the money I have not been able to get it tomorrow and I can go ahead but I don't know how to do it for me and I will be there next month but I don't know if you want
We stayed at the Obelisco campsite at Opicina for a few weeks and it was a delight to catch this tram into Trieste. I also fell in love with Lisbon because of its wonderful trams.
@@JohnHeiman Their used to be a complete video of this tram 'ride' on YT, - I don't know if it is still up or not, with an explanation about those "Pushing/Braking Units". I seem to remember it carries on after it has reached the part where it no longer needs the unit. I think it then carries on for a few more miles, - if it's true I was told it is Privately Owned.
Grazie a questo video ho capito bene il funzionamento della Trenovia di Opicina. Speriamo rientri in servizio. Per ora grazie mille per la efficace realizzazione e per la pubblicazione.
This tram is unique in Europe. The cars are of this shape because they reflect the originale design of the first cars. The "jacuzzi" is nothing more than a counterweight downstream where a steel cable 45mm thick is fixed, upstream there is another "jacuzzi" that will accompany the car that goes down. The stretch of the funicular has a slope of 25%... one tram goes up and the other goes down. The original project of the early 1900s was realized by Prince Maximilian of Austria, who later died in Messico. Now, its many years stopped.... They have no money (municipality, region, state) to repair the railway and modernise and bring it into practice by following State/European directives.... The citizen of Trieste isnt thery happy for this.
While watching I thought about the maintenance costs of of everything about the system, however what alternatives do they have? Everyone drive cars or bicycles? Congestion would be awful!
savvo19 il tram de opcina(in triestino) è molto bello, soprattutto salirci, peccato che sia chiuso per un grave incidente, ma dovrebbe riaprire presto dato che fanno numerose prove. Poi il tram è il simbolo della città.
Καταπληκτικό! Είστε καταπληκτικοί! Όμως και εμείς στην Ελλάδα είχαμε πλειάδα αστικών σιδηροδρόμων / light rails οι οποίοι εισέρχονταν σε αστικά τοπία (Ναύπλιο, Καλαμάτα, Μεσολόγγι, Βόλος και αλλού). Εξ αυτών το πιο αξιόλογο δίκτυο ήταν αυτό του Βόλου διότι ως light rail εξυπηρετούσε σε ολόκληρο το μήκος (παραλιακό μέτωπο) την πόλη του Βόλου και τα προάστια (Αγριά και Κάτω Λεχώνια) και στη συνέχεια ανηφόριζε προς το Πήλιο, το ιστορικό βουνό των Κενταύρων ως σιδηρόδρομος. Το μοναδικό αυτής της περίπτωσης είναι ότι η γραμμή έχει πλάτος μόνον 60 εκ. Η γραμμή λειτουργούσε από το 1893 έως το 1971 και μετά σταμάτησε. Από το 1996 έχει επαναλειτουργήσει μόνον στο ορεινό τμήμα (Άνω Λεχώνια - Μηλιές) ενώ στο αστικό, το οποίο θα μπορούσε κάλλιστα να λειτουργεί ως light rail παραμένει εκτός λειτουργίας. Από το 2017 τη λειτουργία του ελληνικού σιδηροδρομικού δικτύου την έχει αναλάβει μια θυγατρική εταιρία της FSI, η "Trainose". Όμως η Trainose δεν δείχνει κανένα ενδιαφέρον. Προσπαθώ να βρω συμπαραστάτες από χώρες στις οποίες σέβονται και αγαπούν τον σιδηρόδρομο για να λειτουργήσει και το αστικό τμήμα ως light rail μονής γραμμής με ελατηριωτές διασταυρώσεις. Θα μας βοηθήσετε;
That's a really interesting system - I think it's the first time I've ever seen a barney system for a tram before. (They were pretty common for coal loader/unloader docks to push coal hoppers up the slope to the coal dumper).
I remember I whatched your video probably, and I went to Trieste (and other places) in spring 2017, but unfortunately the tram was out of service. It was so disappointing, but a nice trip anyway.
Well both the inventors of this system and the inventors of jacuzzis (the Jacuzzi brothers) come from this very same region, Friuli, whose capital is Trieste, where this rig is located. So it's possible ^_^
I read about this in the Magazine called Electric Rails, published in the 1980s. the main difference was the cable tractor looked more like a locomotive, hence they called it a "locomotive"
Fascinating! I love both the "carrier" system and the fact that this funicular uses a "single-ended" rather than "looped" cable. The tilted concave rollers (I'm assuming mounted on ball bearings) are interesting; much less drag and wear than using bushings or sleeves.
Ca a l'air super sympa comme ville. J'ai une partie de ma famille en Italie (Rimini) et j'avais un cousin qui dirigeait un camp de réfugiés à Trieste au tout début des années 90.
@@ErebosSan In Australia we don't see these beautiful past time treasures, We used to have the biggest Tram system in the Southern Hemisphere in Sydney but all gone and now they are rebuilding new tram lines, Malborne Victoria still has the trams in use. Thanks again i really enjoyed this video.
There was a similar system on a steep hill in Sydney, Australia. The tram pushed a counterweight down the hill. A heavier one in a tunnel under the tracks would reach the top of the hill, come down again assisting the same tram back up.
Good video. The most interesting technical detail is probably the switch in the valley station and the mountain station. There the car drives over the rope that normally lies above the rails. I would have liked to see this technical detail more visible. Apparently the cable is pinched and the car then drives over it.
Kind of: at the uphill station, the balancing system that makes the cable slide from the ascending track to the descending track is placed underground, so the cabs can simply drive over it without really "crossing" the cable. There is a stop right there so you can walk around a bit and see the machinery in action quite clearly. It is also a nice panoramic spot on the city overlooked by an old elegant castle-like villa on the top of the hill
Questo bellissimo tram,è fermo da 2 anni, in seguito ad un incidente, e a tutt'oggi 18 luglio non ci sono artigiani in grado di ripristinarlo, fare le riparazioni e farlo ripartire. Trieste ha la giunta del fare il tram è l, esempio.
Nice video. We were on a cruise a couple of years ago and were diverted to Trieste as we were unable to enter Venice. The tramway was out of action. We walked to the railway museum which was obviously long closed. Even the main church was locked and barred. The only thing open was the Orthodox church.
It's a shame that Trieste did not retain its urban tram network like milan or Turin and other cities.... If I have the choice I would rather take the tram than the bus
There are two extra cars in the system connected with a cable, so the uphill and downhill trams have to move at the same time as long as they are hooked up. The trams are a counterweight to each other so not much energy is needed to move the system: The trams are driven by their own power. The extra cars do probably not have engines, they just act to grip the cable. You can see that the cable is present only on the uphill side, not on the downhill side. The cables never cross and a tram does not ever need to pass over a cable.
A most interesting set up. What does the trailer do? Does it provide additional rack and pinion power or is it there to provide additional breaking power on the downhill journey - or, possibly, both?
The cable is not underground; it's right there running on pulleys between the rails. And the pushers are permanently attached to the cable. SF cable cars have detachable grips that take hold of a continuously running cable.
The final uphill grade on the tram line is too steep for conventional rail train. The tram driver positions the tram uphill from the cable tractor. The two vehicles do no connect. The tram driver remotely controls the tractor which pushes the tram uphill. The tractor operates as a conventional funicular. Gravity holds the vehicles together. On the way down, the tractor brakes the tram.
I think that when the trams are in "funicular" mode they're not controlled by the drivers, when the downhill tram arrives and sets against the ram carriage, the driver sends a "ready" signal to a control room uphill, if the descending tram has sent the ready signal as well the ram carriages are started, when trams stop at the intermediate station, they will send ready signal when they're done with passengers, when the tram arrives downhill the control room waits for the ready signal from the next tram
You are right, the trams are indeed connected. The descending tram 'pushes' the ascending tram (or vice verso) with the help of the 2 carts which are connected by the cable in the middle.
We did this trip twice when in Trieste, there's an amazing cave of more than 110 meters high at the end.
Clever !
Then the nice out of fashion car is great ! …
Yeah a funicular is when there is a cable pulling a car to the top. Usually it's a counterbalance system.
you can see the cable to pull the ram tractor at 2:38
Adesso è tutto fermo e non si sa quando la riaprono, ed è un vero peccato, perché é davvero bella guardare Trieste dal tram. Saluti da Trieste
bonjour à vous merci
ma da quando è di nuovo fermo?
Da più di tre anni
When I was a kid I went out with an Italian called Laura Rhodio. She studied in Trieste and I went there to see her. All the Italians I met treated me like a king and brought me out everywhere. I will never forget it. Gratzie! :)
Sono piccole opere di ingegneria che sfidano situazioni di apparente pericolosità, il risultato è dolce e poetico. Fantastico!
Very nice! Thumbs up 👍👍👍
Greetings from Tokyo Japan :-)
What an interesting, informative and entertaining video. Thank you so very much for sharing! Great video!
Mi quando ero picio andavo allo asilo a opcina con il tram reminiscenze anni bellissimi memento ancora ciao max
Molto interessante e molto bello! Complimenti! 👏👏👏
Wonderful Treasure ! Thank you !
Sorry I am late finding this. Fascinating operation. Hope this finds you well. Thank you.
Che spetacolo !! Per intanto adeso xe solo …speta.
Bel filmado 👏👏
I love the way they hang bikes on the front.
Robbie Hagberg and Sue Hagberg call you back and get the car and get it tomorrow and I can go to me please thanks for the money I have to go to the store for the money for the money I have not been able to get it tomorrow and I can go ahead but I don't know how to do it for me and I will be there next month but I don't know if you want
We stayed at the Obelisco campsite at Opicina for a few weeks and it was a delight to catch this tram into Trieste. I also fell in love with Lisbon because of its wonderful trams.
I love the biked up front and the extra little push - so cool!
That is the tram proudly displaying its first kill 😊
Beautiful ❤️ City looking so classic 👍
Magnifique !!! merci pour cette vidéo
Very nicely put together video and very entertaining as well. Thanks for posting this.
I am from Trieste...although I live far away now. Nice video, I feel very nostalgic though.
Is this a widely used form of transportation in Trieste, or a relic from the past?
John Heiman when it works (not now because the tram derail often badly) it is used how a pubblic trasport by the citizens
@@JohnHeiman Their used to be a complete video of this tram 'ride' on YT, - I don't know if it is still up or not, with an explanation about those "Pushing/Braking Units". I seem to remember it carries on after it has reached the part where it no longer needs the unit. I think it then carries on for a few more miles, - if it's true I was told it is Privately Owned.
Fascinating. Thank you
Grazie a questo video ho capito bene il funzionamento della Trenovia di Opicina. Speriamo rientri in servizio. Per ora grazie mille per la efficace realizzazione e per la pubblicazione.
E invece mi sa che anche per i prossimi 7 anni sarà ancora fermo
This tram is unique in Europe. The cars are of this shape because they reflect the originale design of the first cars. The "jacuzzi" is nothing more than a counterweight downstream where a steel cable 45mm thick is fixed, upstream there is another "jacuzzi" that will accompany the car that goes down. The stretch of the funicular has a slope of 25%... one tram goes up and the other goes down. The original project of the early 1900s was realized by Prince Maximilian of Austria, who later died in Messico. Now, its many years stopped.... They have no money (municipality, region, state) to repair the railway and
modernise and bring it into practice by following State/European directives.... The citizen of Trieste isnt thery happy for this.
While watching I thought about the maintenance costs of of everything about the system, however what alternatives do they have? Everyone drive cars or bicycles? Congestion would be awful!
J'aime bien le contraste vieux/nouveau avec les vieux trams qui côtoient les nouveaux Citaro C2 dernier cri. Belle vidéo !
Thank you for sharing the nice trams design👍😀
Video molto interessante su un servizio tranviario unico nel suo genere! Bellissimo!
savvo19 il tram de opcina(in triestino) è molto bello, soprattutto salirci, peccato che sia chiuso per un grave incidente, ma dovrebbe riaprire presto dato che fanno numerose prove. Poi il tram è il simbolo della città.
Καταπληκτικό! Είστε καταπληκτικοί! Όμως και εμείς στην Ελλάδα είχαμε πλειάδα αστικών σιδηροδρόμων / light rails οι οποίοι εισέρχονταν σε αστικά τοπία (Ναύπλιο, Καλαμάτα, Μεσολόγγι, Βόλος και αλλού). Εξ αυτών το πιο αξιόλογο δίκτυο ήταν αυτό του Βόλου διότι ως light rail εξυπηρετούσε σε ολόκληρο το μήκος (παραλιακό μέτωπο) την πόλη του Βόλου και τα προάστια (Αγριά και Κάτω Λεχώνια) και στη συνέχεια ανηφόριζε προς το Πήλιο, το ιστορικό βουνό των Κενταύρων ως σιδηρόδρομος. Το μοναδικό αυτής της περίπτωσης είναι ότι η γραμμή έχει πλάτος μόνον 60 εκ. Η γραμμή λειτουργούσε από το 1893 έως το 1971 και μετά σταμάτησε. Από το 1996 έχει επαναλειτουργήσει μόνον στο ορεινό τμήμα (Άνω Λεχώνια - Μηλιές) ενώ στο αστικό, το οποίο θα μπορούσε κάλλιστα να λειτουργεί ως light rail παραμένει εκτός λειτουργίας. Από το 2017 τη λειτουργία του ελληνικού σιδηροδρομικού δικτύου την έχει αναλάβει μια θυγατρική εταιρία της FSI, η "Trainose". Όμως η Trainose δεν δείχνει κανένα ενδιαφέρον. Προσπαθώ να βρω συμπαραστάτες από χώρες στις οποίες σέβονται και αγαπούν τον σιδηρόδρομο για να λειτουργήσει και το αστικό τμήμα ως light rail μονής γραμμής με ελατηριωτές διασταυρώσεις. Θα μας βοηθήσετε;
That's a really interesting system - I think it's the first time I've ever seen a barney system for a tram before. (They were pretty common for coal loader/unloader docks to push coal hoppers up the slope to the coal dumper).
Wonderful video. Such a clever tram system.
I remember I whatched your video probably, and I went to Trieste (and other places) in spring 2017, but unfortunately the tram was out of service. It was so disappointing, but a nice trip anyway.
This tram is out of service since August 2016 (collision in a passing loop). It seems the line is still not operating today.
How pretty. System is nice, easy and intelligent. It is nice to discover again new things and touristic attractions of my country.
Brilliant shots 👍🏼
Il tram più affascinante che abbia mai preso...bellissimo
Liked the video ... thanks for sharing
This year we saw repaired upper part of track and tram which was mooving! :-)
Preso nel gennaio 19 ventenne in vacanza a Trieste, bellissima città.
Very nice video and fun to watch. Have a nice day.
Wow, Amazing 👏. The track sounds remind me of trams in my home city... Kolkata.
There something nostalgic about trams 🚊 😢
Mi manca tanto il tram di opicina
Amazing. Great video, thanks
Super intéressant
Mille mercis !
🚠🚋
Interesting, thanks! For a similar unusual city hill railway, look up the Budapest cogwheel railway.
Que hermoso tranvía y que linda ciudad es Trieste.
At first I thought those are jacuzzi as extra attachement for tram, as VIP ride :P))))))))))
digimaks I thought that is a ship to be launched 😂
I like your comment. . .it's absolutely hysterical! lol
Well both the inventors of this system and the inventors of jacuzzis (the Jacuzzi brothers) come from this very same region, Friuli, whose capital is Trieste, where this rig is located. So it's possible ^_^
@@Alby_Torino I love Friuli. Spent a lovely summer in my youth in Pordenone.
Очень красиво, спасибо💖
Beautiful video!
I read about this in the Magazine called Electric Rails, published in the 1980s. the main difference was the cable tractor looked more like a locomotive, hence they called it a "locomotive"
Fascinating, Merci
! Muy hermoso el tranvia y la ciudad también se ve agradable y organizada, han conservado la autenticidad e identidad urbana! Ejemplar.
Fascinating! Trams are a great idea and they are returning to the cities of uk.....come on Bristol! which used to have a full tram system.
Thanks for sharing.
That is so cool! I've never seen a hybrid system like that.
Beautiful tram - as is always the case with Italian design
Старинные трамвайчики. На них всегда приятно просто посмотреть..
Molto interessante!!!
Beautiful video. 🚋 👍🏽
Я целый год жил в Триесте в самом начале 2000х... А сколько раз ездил туда и до и после... Почему я не помню таких трамваев?
Super Video👍👍👍
Fascinating! I love both the "carrier" system and the fact that this funicular uses a "single-ended" rather than "looped" cable. The tilted concave rollers (I'm assuming mounted on ball bearings) are interesting; much less drag and wear than using bushings or sleeves.
Is this the first tram-train at world, lol i love it❤❤
Super filmik bardzo mi się podoba pozdrawiam serdecznie oby tak dalej
I disi che el mondooooo....se ga' ribalta'.w Trieste e w el tram de Op(i)cina,alabarda spaziaaaleee❣❤
wow seriously clever, ingenious solution!
Ca a l'air super sympa comme ville. J'ai une partie de ma famille en Italie (Rimini) et j'avais un cousin qui dirigeait un camp de réfugiés à Trieste au tout début des années 90.
Super video!
Would be nice to see the unusual track switches on the funcular moving. Looks that the pieces of track pivot rather than the usual switch blades.
merci de nous faire decouvrire votre ville et ces transports unique !!
Nostalgija👑. Lepo📯. Tramvaj je v ponos Trstu⚓
Je po Covidu, nejvyšší čas vyčistit koleje a obnovit provoz. Byl jsem v TIERSTE 2022 a prohlédl jsem si alespoň výhozí stanici.
Interessante, e molto originale.
Fantastico! a quando un ripristino della gloriosa rete urbana triestina?? :-)
Awesome video, my friend!
Thanks for sharing!. Nice
You're welcome!
@@ErebosSan In Australia we don't see these beautiful past time treasures, We used to have the biggest Tram system in the Southern Hemisphere in Sydney but all gone and now they are rebuilding new tram lines, Malborne Victoria still has the trams in use. Thanks again i really enjoyed this video.
Grazie per i cuori biondi..
this is amazing, should have built more
0:28 Bike rack on an old tram!
Of course!! This is not North America, we use bikes as a commuter way of transport ^_^
I thought that was a very good idea . To store them on the outside so there was more room for passengers.
@@Alby_Torino I remember seeing quite a lot of buses in N America but not Europe with bike racks at the front though
@@lzh4950 Usually bikes are transported inside the vehicle...
Sono nostalgico si questa citta
There was a similar system on a steep hill in Sydney, Australia. The tram pushed a counterweight down the hill. A heavier one in a tunnel under the tracks would reach the top of the hill, come down again assisting the same tram back up.
Wow that’s awesome 👍🏻
Spettacolooo
Very nice video. The man shooting photos in 1:07 is the same that appears later in the hill in 3:01
Good video. The most interesting technical detail is probably the switch in the valley station and the mountain station. There the car drives over the rope that normally lies above the rails. I would have liked to see this technical detail more visible. Apparently the cable is pinched and the car then drives over it.
Kind of: at the uphill station, the balancing system that makes the cable slide from the ascending track to the descending track is placed underground, so the cabs can simply drive over it without really "crossing" the cable. There is a stop right there so you can walk around a bit and see the machinery in action quite clearly. It is also a nice panoramic spot on the city overlooked by an old elegant castle-like villa on the top of the hill
This is special and unique
Neat concept!
very nice thank you
I''m suprised how fast and easy they go uphill always
Però il tram in una città ha sempre un tocco magico..
Irgendwie hat das was so eine alte Stadtbahn. Cool
Questo bellissimo tram,è fermo da 2 anni, in seguito ad un incidente, e a tutt'oggi 18 luglio non ci sono artigiani in grado di ripristinarlo, fare le riparazioni e farlo ripartire. Trieste ha la giunta del fare il tram è l, esempio.
Si, fare comparsate in Tv
very nice trams!
Nice video. We were on a cruise a couple of years ago and were diverted to Trieste as we were unable to enter Venice. The tramway was out of action. We walked to the railway museum which was obviously long closed. Even the main church was locked and barred. The only thing open was the Orthodox church.
Im just curious, how do they make the track switch? I was thinking maybe from a signalbox like the railroad tracks do.
It's a shame that Trieste did not retain its urban tram network like milan or Turin and other cities.... If I have the choice I would rather take the tram than the bus
Interessante o trajeto. Rio RJ Brasil
There are two extra cars in the system connected with a cable, so the uphill and downhill trams have to move at the same time as long as they are hooked up. The trams are a counterweight to each other so not much energy is needed to move the system: The trams are driven by their own power. The extra cars do probably not have engines, they just act to grip the cable. You can see that the cable is present only on the uphill side, not on the downhill side. The cables never cross and a tram does not ever need to pass over a cable.
The most loved destionation for citizens of YUGOSLAVIA in the past!
Great video ! Does this tram still work now in 2018?
Unfortunately there was a front-end collision between two trams in August 2016. The service has not been restored yet...
A most interesting set up. What does the trailer do? Does it provide additional rack and pinion power or is it there to provide additional breaking power on the downhill journey - or, possibly, both?
It is used to connect to the cable under the ground so it can go up the steep hills it is like the San Francisco cable street car system.
The step is too much inclined for a conventional tram. So the trailer push with funicular
The cable is not underground; it's right there running on pulleys between the rails. And the pushers are permanently attached to the cable. SF cable cars have detachable grips that take hold of a continuously running cable.
I love trams
はじめまして吊り掛けの
音最高雰囲気いい
Looks charming
1:04 is the best part!