For the most part I would agree with this tier list, but I feel like for A and S tier placements would change if you take in account the survivability a class provides: both 2H and (especially) Halberd use buff skills that heavily impact your defenses, to the point that usually any hit is an insta-death; furthermore, 2H as the extra disadvantage of requiring you to stick very close to the boss and without many reliable options for I-frames (only Meteor Breaker or Soul Hunter which are too inconsistent; compare it to what the other melee classes can offer...), which means your chances of getting hit and killed are always very high (Halberd gets more range and safer I-frames, but becomes even more risky due to GSW). And if you think missing Sat is a huge dps loss for Bows, how much dps do you lose as 2H/HB if you are dead? Yeah, which is why despite their impressive damage outputs I don't think they can be in S tier. Perhaps with some high investment builds that allow you to consitently dodge every attack this might not be a problem, but, realistically.... and for the record, I main 2H... Moving to Bows: while it's true that they gained basically nothing from T5 skills, I seriously doubt that would move them down to A tier. Yes, perhaps Bows lost their pedestal in SSS+ Extra-Deluxe-Godly tier...but that's not nearly enough to move them below any other class! Their DPS is still one of the highest of any weapon (and thank goodness they didn't get the T5 treatment of other classes, otherwise now we would exclusively have Bow users!) while maintaining their status as THE safest class to play, thanks to their ridiculous range advantage, as well as THE easiest, with easy AMPR management, low investment builds and whatnot. You could argue that now Bows would share S tier with other classes (like, I DO believe Katanas gained a massive boost form T5), sure, but I still don't believe there's any reason to think that they should fall lower. (And as an extra note... are single 1H even a real DPS class, lol? Jokes aside, they don't really compare to the other B tier options, I would put them in C...)
Agreed on this one, once survival is taken into account I doubt katana would be S. Katana slide dodge is enough to make u feel shitty. DW would prolly go S tho
I would have to put bow in s tier over bowgun as retrograde turns bullseye into what many players call "soft tenryu", outside of that, the tierlist is very very accurate! Great video!
@@justsomegirlwithahat333 It plays just like your usual bow, but for me I just change my satelite combo into open->satelite arrow (smite) -> arrow rain (safe) -> holy fist (smite), then use bullseye whenever you have the time and mp manually. Re-inflict retro for every 3 times cf 3/5. Level up arrow rain to lv 9, and bullseye to 10. I don't recommend taking bullseye if your ampr is below 120 after kairiki if you just want to hunt stationary bosses like kuzto. If you want to fight against fast moving opponent, in which you won't be able to use sate rain combo, then taking bullseye is fine
not true building bowgun dagger can go Charlie's Angels move set super fast dagger normal attack while you being still ranged and can switch from ranged and melee in a split second while boss focusing on your clone.
Agree! Though i love my Knight build, it is true that some weapon just better than other. And T5 shows us that META is not permanent just like what baku said in the previous vid. Great vid baku. Keep on it!
knuckles is highly limited as a dps a guy soloed Quasar using knuckles with only 1:34 so it probably about the difficulty to use I think it deserves an A just by it dmg
(Opinion) I kinda feel like knucks is a bit under placed in the tier list since it's the only weapon that can go full damage without losing too much damage stats while also being very tanky giving it godly survivability (You could argue that ktn has better survivability I guess but come on, It's a safe bet that less than 20% of ktn users have hivan level mechanics and also everyone is prone to human error) which is very useful for bosses that you really can't avoid getting hit by (ex. patissia) as you don't have to rely on gsw. Knucks also does better with sh as it's main dps skill since prorate advantage and higher multipliers, it also goes well with flash blink since it's like a faster aura blade.
@@Troz678 "Best dps weapon" was decided with a criteria which were defined in the beginning of the video, although ofcourse the list is opinionated and I kind of disagree with some parts of it.
@@Troz678 General knowledge, Opinionated knowledge, Explanation of the mechanics and also personal insight aided with a body of understanding of each class. Presented in the video, it's data enough for me. And tier lists are supposed to be opinion based and subjective so restrictions on what could classify as data isn't that strict as to dismay personal thoughts like in a actual academic paper.
4:43 2h user to the Boss:"i'll send u to isekai mf~" As 2h user its really true,even ur sub main stat its VIT or whatever,its still really High DPS, but for my opinion 2h its a Middle A-S rank,the reason bcs when they Fight a Mid-High Deff enemy ur dmg will decrease greatly and that mean u need more spina to spend for buy some eq that have Physical Pierce (some ppl says 60% PP its Recommend) but u already put it on S Rank i'll take it then
Bow/bwg Best of Job ever if u want to fun and chill play mode For Damage bow big than other Job, But there's a reason why u must have High Accuracy and High PP(Physical Pierce) Bwg easiest ever job u can try, Just with Twin storm u have unlimited MP and PP frow how much your DEX. For damage BWG Not too good but BWG can repeat the combos faster than Bow. For Exam : Bow deals dmg 1M with sat And BWG deals dmg 900K with sat but faster drop than Bow. 3M for 10s >BOW 2,7M for 6s+4 (900K-1,8M) >BWG 3,6M/4,5M for 10s >BWG
I chose HB cause it is the most unique wep they offer. I am bored with Sword, Bow, and Staff so I chose Hb to Explore new things but I do really like it after trying it out. I love the long reach and its speed.
Alot of these are dependent on build to some can be weirdly strong.. for example combination builds such as knucks md magic atks, also have seen some weird katanas that can beat cf's overall dps nuke with garu due to its unsheathe scaling and dps increases over time
I agree with all of your points here each weapon has it's own specialty and this tierlist is purely on raw dmg . Request: can you make a guide on the game modes that each class excels at? For example bwg is best for guild maze and stoodie runs because of the high mobility in these maps, or katana is best for high difficulty bosses and gem runs, or knuckle dps is built like exp lane fighters in ML that are made to act as secondary tank in the late game etc...
@@geminas5044 yeah but 2h is wayyyy slower than knuckle and you need a fair investment in vit stat, heavy arm and tank stats, while knuckle has innate dmg reduction/nullification and 0mp i-frame skills . Also 2h doesn't have any reliable interrupt skills
@@reybarracuda2514 ha! good thing I've made a good investment in VIT stat for my 2HS since I'm also using it as my personal semi-truck whenever i use my other characters 😅 and yeah.... a semi-dps 2HS requires more effort to make it work than a regular DPS but w/ Gordel's 2HS drop i think it's a huge boost for a semi-dps user like me since it's giving more defenses w/ less effort while giving decent output WHILE WAITING FOR THE TANK TO RECONNECT/REVIVED 🤣
Looks like someone re uploaded your video and made it theirs. They even removed the start of the video that shows your channel name. Not sure if they.got your permission to do so.
i think u should make tierlist of skill tree instead of weapon since u can learn any skill tree on any class, for example knuckle on its on is low dmg but its dmg is (was) super high with magic warrior tree
and this is just the main weapon as "main", there are a lot combination if u use some main weapon as "sub-weapon" plus their own sub weapon in game (dagger, shield, etc)
I'll probably put knuckle in C. Yes now they can punch hard but it mostly because of crusher. Their own skill itself is more on interruption side and need at least tier 4 skills
Tbh 2h and hb are just the same rank for me. As 2h focuses on heavy blows and power specially on low defences bosses ,and hb focuses on speed and def ignorance against tanky bosses
If an anniversary is going on then I will be using my other character and then I’ll give a mercenary 50s and then I’ll set my 2nd character to attacker and then I’ll enter and farm
My own opinion : This current tier list is a temporary one. DS tier 5 is not released yet. also crusher tier 4. DS and Knuckle tier is just a temporary tier, because of both undone skill trees. Btw, Bow users are gonna cry after see that they are placed on A haha.
0.0 1h sword so versatile it should be A tier tbh it could be complicated to build and strong but still on the week side you can make a easy build with sword but It has more complicated outs like 1H assassin or 1h md and if you have proper build these classes doing big damage and its also the only class you can affectively tank dps.
As a paladin user.... Heh lvling is hard special if you're a pure paladin... I always get scolded by the tank for interrupting the boss (・-・;)ゞ And I do low damage without interrupts
as a bow user that still stuck at level 214, it is actually painful to leveling especially with my low ampr and aspd. so i must agree that bow got Tier A it is quite difficult to use for me imo mother i just want tier 5 skill already 😔
you probably should've split the tierlist into 2 different ones for t4 and "with t5" not only you get more content, it also gets less mixed up while being more specific in the reasons
if u just want to pick a weapon and start doin dmg play staff or bow, cuz katana haves too low surviviblity and needs tons of spina to make it does decent dmg.
knuck with md will become powerful cuz have two prorate and atk type that only change equip you can m.atk or p.atk being S tier mage despite being B tier melee
100% agree with everything here except w/ DS and knux.... for me I'm gonna put knux a more higher than DS since you need to bring multiple elemental swords to make DS stronger and stability is always an issue w/ DS since most DS builds are always geared towards STR and AGI only.... unlike in knux you can now make knux more stable w/ DEX since AGI now gives CD, which is great for Annihilator users.... what makes DS and Knux at equal is when you have weapons that gives insane ASPD (Wind Grace Sword, DX Bomber Blockers and Duplex Knuckles) since you'll barely need GSW if you pair it w/ Wandering Wheel/Gordo
Gotta agree and it really makes sense since knux has t5 skills while DS don't. Plus most skills in DS tree doesn't even properly support its main skills. Skills like Flash blast and Godspeed cuz SC isn't even unsheathe. Only Charging slash and Storm reaper use it. Not to mention flash blast's evasion messing up proration cuz it does Phys dmg. But we'll see how the upcoming DS t5 handles this
two types of dmg ,Consistent dmg. and dmg that can be evaded. like halberd dragon tooth , buster blade, etc which has high if not 100% it will connect(ofcource chance of miss) and finale , cf. . .i dont need to say it, if the boss moves alot its hard to hit 🤣
For real, my mage char is useless because of boss movement and area attack and aggro. I have enormous cast speed and it still fails because the bosses move a lot 😂. I also have a katana character, to deal massive damage, you need a very high skill, it takes time to build up, and if you fail to reset the cool down, you're doomed, also, it needs a lot of AMPR, you need an AMPR build. Mage doesn't need AMPR.
Firstly drop ohs an knuckles down to C creating a dps that honestly has major effect are way too expensive asiding from the fact even if your using 2s the dmg is still low an low budget builds are practically grazing thier targets an hitting 1s & 0s
I'll do you one better. Staff is C tier. We're talking about damage and dps, but lets talk casting and motion speed. If you wanna keep it basic finale, then you are still the slowest skill in the game averaging around 8seconds with the most basic of combos. Wanna get casty? Well you're gonna need a LOT of ritual and massive Dex to get your magic damage within the same year you ordered it. Staff is a Hard weapon that does not reward you with fancy stacks of power or plentiful I-Frames and without GSW you might as well eat a death truffle and spare yourself the frustration. Equipment and xtals help boost damage, but if you try and build a nuclear mage with all matk m.pierce xtals...you're gonna suck being heavily reliant on everything being PERFECT due to spamming just finale. You NEED more xtals for cspd% via dex. Unless you're a critical mage....heretics. Nemesis can burn in Vyshed for betraying Int DeX
Even my trash equip can do 1mi with cf, soo i have no doubt that bow is the best dps. BUT i had a tough time with it, if you have no good equip, stability is terrible and the ampr can be slow or risk (due to decoy long stupid cast). It needs a full crit build to work decently. Now katana is quite a joke for me xD, since its the worst starter class in my opinion
I use two OHS from the slayer collaboration I also use magic with its prowess😅 I love to increase to strategics but I also rarely use the consignment board for buying cuz I books from the library and I have a lot of notebook of oblivion
I'm a dual sword main and i hate it so much. I can't even join the new event bosses because of my pathetic dps. It's fuckn expensive and not worth at all except for looking flashy and sht.
Arial needs a serious nerf dude and everyone's acting like it's normal that's all u see everywhere now lfp Arial dps its freaking annoying and all they do is go in spam the crap out of it bam easy kills like mod especially if they have dte...
Tier lists like these kinda contributes to the toxicity in the game where players only want the “meta “ dmg isn’t all and those that lack dmg make up with utility. Md and dw is tbd until their t5 is released but trust me md should be tier c at least if you include queen bee and chronos shift finale.
I understand where you are coming from, but toram is a hard game and gaining spina as a newbie to build a character property is difficult, so ufc they should go for the easier class to build. But trust me after know enough about the game they 90% change class
@@kuroth8648 it harms the player ability when lfp, since we can't see other player's equipment player's will gauge how effective a player might be in their pt by looking at their weapon of choice, that's my issue
MD : I may not good for fighting bosses, but dont forget your budget building dps it comes from me
Facts
Mine comes from scamming
So unrelatable
@@Thanatoos piece of human excrement
@@Thanatoos not sigma
As a MD player, I wish the new MD skill tree boost their lack of damage or maybe just allow them to use other weapon as subs
For the most part I would agree with this tier list, but I feel like for A and S tier placements would change if you take in account the survivability a class provides: both 2H and (especially) Halberd use buff skills that heavily impact your defenses, to the point that usually any hit is an insta-death; furthermore, 2H as the extra disadvantage of requiring you to stick very close to the boss and without many reliable options for I-frames (only Meteor Breaker or Soul Hunter which are too inconsistent; compare it to what the other melee classes can offer...), which means your chances of getting hit and killed are always very high (Halberd gets more range and safer I-frames, but becomes even more risky due to GSW). And if you think missing Sat is a huge dps loss for Bows, how much dps do you lose as 2H/HB if you are dead?
Yeah, which is why despite their impressive damage outputs I don't think they can be in S tier. Perhaps with some high investment builds that allow you to consitently dodge every attack this might not be a problem, but, realistically.... and for the record, I main 2H...
Moving to Bows: while it's true that they gained basically nothing from T5 skills, I seriously doubt that would move them down to A tier. Yes, perhaps Bows lost their pedestal in SSS+ Extra-Deluxe-Godly tier...but that's not nearly enough to move them below any other class! Their DPS is still one of the highest of any weapon (and thank goodness they didn't get the T5 treatment of other classes, otherwise now we would exclusively have Bow users!) while maintaining their status as THE safest class to play, thanks to their ridiculous range advantage, as well as THE easiest, with easy AMPR management, low investment builds and whatnot.
You could argue that now Bows would share S tier with other classes (like, I DO believe Katanas gained a massive boost form T5), sure, but I still don't believe there's any reason to think that they should fall lower.
(And as an extra note... are single 1H even a real DPS class, lol? Jokes aside, they don't really compare to the other B tier options, I would put them in C...)
Very well said! And yes, I agree with ohs part, they kinda good in almost everything but excels at none imo
Agreed on this one, once survival is taken into account I doubt katana would be S. Katana slide dodge is enough to make u feel shitty. DW would prolly go S tho
I would have to put bow in s tier over bowgun as retrograde turns bullseye into what many players call "soft tenryu", outside of that, the tierlist is very very accurate! Great video!
Do you have link/guide to the bullseye+retro build??
@@justsomegirlwithahat333 It plays just like your usual bow, but for me I just change my satelite combo into open->satelite arrow (smite) -> arrow rain (safe) -> holy fist (smite), then use bullseye whenever you have the time and mp manually. Re-inflict retro for every 3 times cf 3/5. Level up arrow rain to lv 9, and bullseye to 10. I don't recommend taking bullseye if your ampr is below 120 after kairiki if you just want to hunt stationary bosses like kuzto. If you want to fight against fast moving opponent, in which you won't be able to use sate rain combo, then taking bullseye is fine
not true building bowgun dagger can go Charlie's Angels move set super fast dagger normal attack while you being still ranged and can switch from ranged and melee in a split second while boss focusing on your clone.
Agree! Though i love my Knight build, it is true that some weapon just better than other. And T5 shows us that META is not permanent just like what baku said in the previous vid. Great vid baku. Keep on it!
There is a meta only for beginner players, but if you get to lvl 245 you can pick up any weapon
My issue with dual weild is the animatio time. I stay stuck and cannot move...😢
i think Bowgun -B
* Twin Storm -exist *
ah yes Bowgun -A
knuckles is highly limited as a dps
a guy soloed Quasar using knuckles with only 1:34
so it probably about the difficulty to use
I think it deserves an A just by it dmg
Who is he, did he post the video?
god the outros volume scared me , anyway great video!
(Opinion) I kinda feel like knucks is a bit under placed in the tier list since it's the only weapon that can go full damage without losing too much damage stats while also being very tanky giving it godly survivability (You could argue that ktn has better survivability I guess but come on, It's a safe bet that less than 20% of ktn users have hivan level mechanics and also everyone is prone to human error) which is very useful for bosses that you really can't avoid getting hit by (ex. patissia) as you don't have to rely on gsw. Knucks also does better with sh as it's main dps skill since prorate advantage and higher multipliers, it also goes well with flash blink since it's like a faster aura blade.
@@Troz678 The tier list literally considered "difficulty" as a factor in the beginning of the video.
@@Troz678 it was made clear in the beginning of the video of what factors it accounts for.
@@Troz678 "Best dps weapon" was decided with a criteria which were defined in the beginning of the video, although ofcourse the list is opinionated and I kind of disagree with some parts of it.
@@Troz678 General knowledge, Opinionated knowledge, Explanation of the mechanics and also personal insight aided with a body of understanding of each class. Presented in the video, it's data enough for me. And tier lists are supposed to be opinion based and subjective so restrictions on what could classify as data isn't that strict as to dismay personal thoughts like in a actual academic paper.
Best beginner weapon:bow
Best endgame weapon: all of the weapons
I see the staff is better for pure lvl 1 why ?
Mp recovery easy
High dmg and not need a crit just maximum you mp and int
The worst thing about staff if you cast speed is meh 🐱 maybe you died before do any skill XD 😃
4:43
2h user to the Boss:"i'll send u to isekai mf~"
As 2h user its really true,even ur sub main stat its VIT or whatever,its still really High DPS, but for my opinion 2h its a Middle A-S rank,the reason bcs when they Fight a Mid-High Deff enemy ur dmg will decrease greatly and that mean u need more spina to spend for buy some eq that have Physical Pierce (some ppl says 60% PP its Recommend) but u already put it on S Rank i'll take it then
Bow/bwg Best of Job ever if u want to fun and chill play mode
For Damage bow big than other Job, But there's a reason why u must have High Accuracy and High PP(Physical Pierce)
Bwg easiest ever job u can try, Just with Twin storm u have unlimited MP and PP frow how much your DEX.
For damage BWG Not too good but BWG can repeat the combos faster than Bow.
For Exam : Bow deals dmg 1M with sat
And BWG deals dmg 900K with sat but faster drop than Bow.
3M for 10s >BOW
2,7M for 6s+4 (900K-1,8M) >BWG
3,6M/4,5M for 10s >BWG
Hey Baku, can you make for sub class too? Like bowtana, magic warrior, assasin, etc
I chose HB cause it is the most unique wep they offer. I am bored with Sword, Bow, and Staff so I chose Hb to Explore new things but I do really like it after trying it out. I love the long reach and its speed.
Alot of these are dependent on build to some can be weirdly strong.. for example combination builds such as knucks md magic atks, also have seen some weird katanas that can beat cf's overall dps nuke with garu due to its unsheathe scaling and dps increases over time
I love the new voice, keep using it 💖
I agree with all of your points here each weapon has it's own specialty and this tierlist is purely on raw dmg .
Request: can you make a guide on the game modes that each class excels at? For example bwg is best for guild maze and stoodie runs because of the high mobility in these maps, or katana is best for high difficulty bosses and gem runs, or knuckle dps is built like exp lane fighters in ML that are made to act as secondary tank in the late game etc...
This sounds good xD
2HS can also be good as a secondary tank because of the manual guard 😅
@@geminas5044 yeah but 2h is wayyyy slower than knuckle and you need a fair investment in vit stat, heavy arm and tank stats, while knuckle has innate dmg reduction/nullification and 0mp i-frame skills . Also 2h doesn't have any reliable interrupt skills
@@reybarracuda2514 ha! good thing I've made a good investment in VIT stat for my 2HS since I'm also using it as my personal semi-truck whenever i use my other characters 😅 and yeah.... a semi-dps 2HS requires more effort to make it work than a regular DPS but w/ Gordel's 2HS drop i think it's a huge boost for a semi-dps user like me since it's giving more defenses w/ less effort while giving decent output WHILE WAITING FOR THE TANK TO RECONNECT/REVIVED 🤣
@@geminas5044 we semi dps be chilling in the aoe while the standard average gsw user crying in pain for the anty melee attacks 🤣😂
Looks like someone re uploaded your video and made it theirs. They even removed the start of the video that shows your channel name. Not sure if they.got your permission to do so.
Your content is just getting better and better XD
bow and arrow and dual swords are top of the totem pole, followed by katana, then halberd, then 2 hand swords, then knuckle, then ohs.
*_Can we just take a moment to appreciate all the efforts he puts in his videos?✨✨_*
Hello may i know how u got that scythe on the vid and what class it is
Meanwhile barehand dps chads being the most chill persons in the game.
This video did not age well the moment T5 for DS was released. It just jumped straight up to S tier with that insane damage output lol.
I agree with the opinion in this video. but in my opinion the katana is a+ because if the player doesn't understand it will damage the prorate
Nah, it's low tier player, not the class
i think u should make tierlist of skill tree instead of weapon since u can learn any skill tree on any class, for example knuckle on its on is low dmg but its dmg is (was) super high with magic warrior tree
does anyone know what the hair piece or style is that is used for the mage? is it an avatar accessory?
The only hard part in the katana is basically you are fighting sans in a no hit run.
and this is just the main weapon as "main", there are a lot combination if u use some main weapon as "sub-weapon" plus their own sub weapon in game (dagger, shield, etc)
I'll probably put knuckle in C. Yes now they can punch hard but it mostly because of crusher. Their own skill itself is more on interruption side and need at least tier 4 skills
verbal abuse by veterans calling you bad will always be top dps
Yep as its 100% Emotional Damage
@@bakutori that shit have 100% physical pierce 😭😭😭
Emotional damage yeah
Still the most effective dps
Underrated comment
Will you make another tier list after ds t5 released?
What do u think baku just ur guess ..
Will ds be in ss or A after t5!!!??
It depends, if the dmg is busted like the demo, its gonna be op. Let's see
When will the release date for T5 DS?
I think its in the end of june, if not maybe july
Tbh 2h and hb are just the same rank for me. As 2h focuses on heavy blows and power specially on low defences bosses ,and hb focuses on speed and def ignorance against tanky bosses
0:11 liar, it's *Death Per Second*
Aside from that, this tierlist is accurate IMO. Except for 2H, I might put it in A tier... Even tho I'm a 2H main.
What would be your S tier dps?
Build all wep.. but knuckle for me the best.
Which one has the ceapest equip?
Hi baku! Can i knoe what tts you are using in this video? I want to use it in my artwork tutorials soon, she sounds great, thanks!.
Capcuts Tts
@@bakutori tyyyyyy
And can someone please explain why I automatically get the f$#k out of dodge with the katana automatic
What do you mean?
Update sir/ma'am cause MD have Sprite skill now with Vulcan Magic it's can be DPS for a time I guess
May favorite is be katana weapon but main acc use dual sword cuz when come to boss fight dual wield hard to die.. but katana can solo the any boss
Objection on the MD it doesn't even need to be on D since it has good AOE it just need to have to use dte MDS too it can be on lower C
If an anniversary is going on then I will be using my other character and then I’ll give a mercenary 50s and then I’ll set my 2nd character to attacker and then I’ll enter and farm
My own opinion : This current tier list is a temporary one. DS tier 5 is not released yet. also crusher tier 4. DS and Knuckle tier is just a temporary tier, because of both undone skill trees.
Btw, Bow users are gonna cry after see that they are placed on A haha.
Can you make a video about Pedrio?
Is the katana drop from Pedrio op?
@@azuredragon7591 yes it also has dte neutral
0.0 1h sword so versatile it should be A tier tbh it could be complicated to build and strong but still on the week side you can make a easy build with sword but It has more complicated outs like 1H assassin or 1h md and if you have proper build these classes doing big damage and its also the only class you can affectively tank dps.
I agree with you tier list cool video and tnx I have good weapon to use katana skills
i use katana and all the skills consume hug amount of mp , even tenryu ransei u mentioned that cost 100 mp but it's not it cost 300 mp 🥺
As a paladin user.... Heh lvling is hard special if you're a pure paladin... I always get scolded by the tank for interrupting the boss (・-・;)ゞ
And I do low damage without interrupts
as a bow user that still stuck at level 214, it is actually painful to leveling especially with my low ampr and aspd. so i must agree that bow got Tier A
it is quite difficult to use for me imo
mother i just want tier 5 skill already 😔
what about daggers?
you probably should've split the tierlist into 2 different ones for t4 and "with t5"
not only you get more content, it also gets less mixed up while being more specific in the reasons
if u just want to pick a weapon and start doin dmg play staff or bow, cuz katana haves too low surviviblity and needs tons of spina to make it does decent dmg.
Where is kmd?
knuck with md will become powerful cuz have two prorate and atk type that only change equip you can m.atk or p.atk
being S tier mage despite being B tier melee
Yeah I was leaving in fins today and all of the knux+md mage where more power than the physical dps of KTN, hb, 2h
nah you can't change equip in battle
@@Troz678 he means that you can build physical or magic with knuckle
If there's a Minigun it would be the most powerful DPS weapon since it shoots 50 bullets per second 😁
Me only deal 100k dmg with THS tier 4 skill:
Wait, something is not right!
Check ur stats
I'm level 145, and with a very budget build with only T3 skills, I can get 1M a skill spammed. Though, my ampr is very low so I can't spam it yet
Ill put Bow and Arrow to S tier, they can solo many boss in fast time because of their survivability and damage
bow is still op, if you re seeking dmg vs high def boss.
bowgun otherwise, is op against low def boss
Wow Baku has two different voices
I hav a LOT hihi xD
The real meta here is spina
100% agree with everything here except w/ DS and knux.... for me I'm gonna put knux a more higher than DS since you need to bring multiple elemental swords to make DS stronger and stability is always an issue w/ DS since most DS builds are always geared towards STR and AGI only.... unlike in knux you can now make knux more stable w/ DEX since AGI now gives CD, which is great for Annihilator users....
what makes DS and Knux at equal is when you have weapons that gives insane ASPD (Wind Grace Sword, DX Bomber Blockers and Duplex Knuckles) since you'll barely need GSW if you pair it w/ Wandering Wheel/Gordo
Gotta agree and it really makes sense since knux has t5 skills while DS don't. Plus most skills in DS tree doesn't even properly support its main skills. Skills like Flash blast and Godspeed cuz SC isn't even unsheathe. Only Charging slash and Storm reaper use it. Not to mention flash blast's evasion messing up proration cuz it does Phys dmg. But we'll see how the upcoming DS t5 handles this
what class in ur opinion that currently have the fastest nuke potential with max/high budget?
Ths and hb especially with sh
ktn, ppl confuse fast kill and dmg potential
two types of dmg ,Consistent dmg. and dmg that can be evaded.
like halberd dragon tooth , buster blade, etc which has high if not 100% it will connect(ofcource chance of miss)
and finale , cf. . .i dont need to say it, if the boss moves alot its hard to hit 🤣
For real, my mage char is useless because of boss movement and area attack and aggro. I have enormous cast speed and it still fails because the bosses move a lot 😂. I also have a katana character, to deal massive damage, you need a very high skill, it takes time to build up, and if you fail to reset the cool down, you're doomed, also, it needs a lot of AMPR, you need an AMPR build. Mage doesn't need AMPR.
S(Bow, Katana, 2H Sword, Halberd, Bowgun{Tank} )
A(Dual sword, 1H Shield{Tank/DPS}, Knuckle, Bowgun{DPS}, Staff MD{crit stat} )
B(1H MD, 1H dagger, 1H Knuckle, Knuckle MD, Barehand{Tank}, MD Ninja, Staff {no crit} )
Troll Class(KATANA+DAGGER Tololl💩)
Well bowgun and 2h is the best job in the game the budget is not pricely and i think suzuki gm will not nerf that 2 job in short of time
What about bow tana
I agree with your list
Being an MD main, i dont recommend it to my viewers as a dps character. It is just my preference(purely for fun) XD
Yeah it also looks cool too though
i hope the md skill tree can help with its dps somehow
Thats what im feeling as well, md might become op soon
@@bakutori ikrr i just wish that flying has some buff, but atleast md fights with style XD
Firstly drop ohs an knuckles down to C creating a dps that honestly has major effect are way too expensive asiding from the fact even if your using 2s the dmg is still low an low budget builds are practically grazing thier targets an hitting 1s & 0s
I'll do you one better. Staff is C tier. We're talking about damage and dps, but lets talk casting and motion speed.
If you wanna keep it basic finale, then you are still the slowest skill in the game averaging around 8seconds with the most basic of combos.
Wanna get casty? Well you're gonna need a LOT of ritual and massive Dex to get your magic damage within the same year you ordered it.
Staff is a Hard weapon that does not reward you with fancy stacks of power or plentiful I-Frames and without GSW you might as well eat a death truffle and spare yourself the frustration.
Equipment and xtals help boost damage, but if you try and build a nuclear mage with all matk m.pierce xtals...you're gonna suck being heavily reliant on everything being PERFECT due to spamming just finale. You NEED more xtals for cspd% via dex.
Unless you're a critical mage....heretics. Nemesis can burn in Vyshed for betraying Int DeX
hey...all weapon is the best, just depend how user perform. Even MD also can be attacker .... dont be seperate them in rank...respect !
We dont talk about Divine slash here, that thing isnt even a skill, its literally a smite from the heavens.
the power gap between t4&t5 skill are big .. yet im overpowering my pt while only using rush .. 😂😂
Yeah show them, let's wait until t4 crusher is out
Even my trash equip can do 1mi with cf, soo i have no doubt that bow is the best dps.
BUT i had a tough time with it, if you have no good equip, stability is terrible and the ampr can be slow or risk (due to decoy long stupid cast).
It needs a full crit build to work decently.
Now katana is quite a joke for me xD, since its the worst starter class in my opinion
Include the class utilities, and S tiered weapon gonna fall into A rank immediately xD
You should put katana at tier +SSS ._.
I use two OHS from the slayer collaboration I also use magic with its prowess😅 I love to increase to strategics but I also rarely use the consignment board for buying cuz I books from the library and I have a lot of notebook of oblivion
I think you forgot unhanded
And rn ?!
I'm a dual sword main and i hate it so much. I can't even join the new event bosses because of my pathetic dps. It's fuckn expensive and not worth at all except for looking flashy and sht.
DPS- damage per second
Not burst per second
Yeah dmg per second is knuckle(asura punch) , gattling, shadow walk, nemesis😊 😙
umm, unarmed dps?
Hoping Ds t5 will be as op as the others
Arial needs a serious nerf dude and everyone's acting like it's normal that's all u see everywhere now lfp Arial dps its freaking annoying and all they do is go in spam the crap out of it bam easy kills like mod especially if they have dte...
Anyone giving mp food buff?
Yeah 2hs the big Daddy 🔥🔥
i agree as katana user
wait when ds have 5 tier skill, RANK SSS
T5 DS now S class imo
2h is the best 🔥
Now Dual is S tier
Tier lists like these kinda contributes to the toxicity in the game where players only want the “meta “ dmg isn’t all and those that lack dmg make up with utility. Md and dw is tbd until their t5 is released but trust me md should be tier c at least if you include queen bee and chronos shift finale.
For me as a new player, yess im following meta, because its easier.. but for other who plays in a long time. The meta is just not exist
I understand where you are coming from, but toram is a hard game and gaining spina as a newbie to build a character property is difficult, so ufc they should go for the easier class to build. But trust me after know enough about the game they 90% change class
Weapon is harmless without user. A META alone can't harm anyone unless someone abuse it. especially elitists.
Oh, I didn't tell another thing. Knuckle is also counted as TBD one due to crusher skill.
@@kuroth8648 it harms the player ability when lfp, since we can't see other player's equipment player's will gauge how effective a player might be in their pt by looking at their weapon of choice, that's my issue
I think DPS is = Death Per Second
Ah sadly my knuc on that list. Please buffffff
Doesn't dt have 75cr?
100 with base cr of 25
@@yareyare7113 doesn't mean you add it together. DT has 75 cr. Saying DT is 100cr is like me saying meteor has 25 cr, CF has 25 cr etc
teir list soo wrong...md s tier bow hb 2hs katana all in d teir xD and barehand dps is strongest
I think dual sword should be higher due to how cheap refining sub weapon now
Yep, but if still compare to other 7 weapon still needs to refine xD but ngl ds super op
cheap refine =/= dmg increase
If you didn't put ktn on S tier *Hovers over unsubscribed button*
I agree Bwg for Tier A,but not Bow
Bow should be Tiers S
I kinda feel like bowgun is safer than bow and I deal higher damage with ridiculous ampr
Bowtana is good too