Can I Make A Roadside Firewood Stand Even Better???
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Two of my favorite TH-cam personalities! Have a great day Joe and Adam.
Thanks for putting me in esteemed company!
I agree... and love the retail perspective on the roadside stand. I'm planning one, but I too want to do a different version, built nicer and more focused on marketing. -- Great stuff!
Nice collab!!
Interesting to see the retailer expertise of Joe being mixed with the accountant expertise from Adam.
It was both entertaining and very interesting!
Me and Adam should go into business together LOL we compliment each other nicely
its funny because I saw Adam's video with that roadside stand, and I was thinking "Wow that looks so familiar!" then when you "met" him I realized it was a joke that you "stumbled across it" haha!!
Great video, these roadside stands are a good idea, especially around campgrounds I bet
my task now is to see how these would work in multiple locations. Not sure just yet
If you want to take the roadside stand to the next level, one of the things you can look at is the devices that they use at the large box, stores to dispense propane, 5 gallon containers, electronic, pay, and cash, all electronic and automatic
You guys are awesome! Thanks for sharing!
Adam now you have another good neighbor ❤😊
Joe and Adam well done given me great ideas too
Glad you found it useful Harry!
Hmmmm….. I see some wheels turning Mr. Joe! Elaine from Canada here, glad to see the woodhound community sharing thoughts and practices.
It's nice to be surrounded by friends Elaine!
What a great video Joe. It is neat seeing like minded TH-camrs collaborate. Keep a Dr Pepper handy while your brainstorming your stand it help clear the cobwebs
Good idea Mike! I had one in my car!
I would add annother bundle bay and only ever 3/4 fill it. Gives the impression and comfort to folk that other people are doing it. Just a wee psychological trick.
Love both you guys!! We added a PayPal scan code and have been able to track reoccurring customers that way. We also accept cash 😉.
We sell out a couple times a week when we are really busy. Also a great alternative for people that need a little bit of wood in a pinch before I can deliver the customer a fraction of a cord. Thanks for all the encouragement and wonderful ideas!
Thanks for watching Rob!
You & Adam...🙌💃💃🙌 Y'all are both great with your videos!! Thanks! God bless y'all 🥰👍🥰👍
Thanks so much Dianne!
You were a great help stacking the wood
Or at least being there.
Follow both of you guys. Enjoy your channels. I now have 5 stands. This will be first full year of them. Going to be adding a couple more this year. Nebraska WoodSTR
That is awesome! You may be onto a sustaining business!
Great video Joe! I was picking Adam’s brain a few weeks ago about his roadside stand as I am about to build mine! I like the idea of having multiple out in more commercial locations.
Good luck buddy. There's money to be made!
Joe and Adam thanks for sharing a great video!!
Thanks for watching!
Joe, I recently viewed the "Home Town Acres" recent video, where Adam asked your advice, about how to set up his wood yard with the potential of starting his own firewood business.
The knowledge you demonstrated was impressive, and caused me to put out the following comment on the Home Town Acres recent video:
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"Listen to this dude Rufas (I mean Joe) he knows what he is talking about".
- - -(Quote from Bill & Teds Excellent Adventure)
Well Adam, there you have it! Joe is such a "knock out punch"! He is a "wood yard" equivalent to your "EXCELLENT" neighbor (another reference to Bill & Ted) Doug.
What Joe (Ohio Wood Burner) brings to the table, is a cost effective, automated, and "no back busting", intelligent way of processing and selling firewood. He's got the AXIS for the big logs, an excellent JAPA 365 for the smaller stuff, a tractor for loading the live deck, a couple of new or decent dumping trailers, and a Super Splitter for resplits, without breaking the bank!
He's also not afraid to evaluate other automated options to reduce the # of touches of the wood, to reduce manual loading and unloading of one's dump trailer. He is also handy with a camera!
I subscribe and watch your channel because you have "most of the toys" to make the next step in your firewood proposition, and have creativity, and I see a future for you and yours.
I believe you know, viewers are going to be offering suggestions after watching "this video". Dont get upset with them, they like and appreciate you, and want you to succeed! KEEP AN EYE ON THAT DOUG GUY! He looks kinda shifty!
Wow! Great post Gary and I really appreciate your regard you hold me and the OWB at. Guys like you want me to do an even better job! Thanks again Gary!
Joe, my wife and I are in Hilton Head, South Carolina and we just watched your video with Adam of Home Town Acres. As we were coming back off the beach, I remarked to my wife there’s a fire pit and it would sure be nice to have some of that value added firewood to light up the night. You don’t make house calls do you??
I’m just kidding…. Have a great day and keep the videos a coming!!
Ha Ha... That would be a pretty high delivery fee for sure!
@@ohiowoodburner Yeah, but well worth the drive as there is a beach at the end of the drive-my wife added the last part of my comment just so you know….
My daughter has chickens, we do the roadside stand to sell eggs. People appreciated the no contact sales during COVID19. We have never had a problem with the honor system failing us.
Good to hear, but just in case I think it's important not to leave much $ in the pay box.
Good to hear Joel. We did the same with our chickens when the girls were younger.
I knew the second I saw the stand that you were at Adams'. Funny how a person is known by their firewood stand!
Adam: You need to put the cash box (& sign) on the driveway side, so ppl dodn't have to 'search' for it. I can't believe you only had this property for only 4 yrs; you've done SO MUCH!
Joe: You should drop past my place sometime (5 miles from Ellwood City). I've taken 'a roadside stand' to a whole different level - an outside firewood store.
Oh! and one thing you forgot to do while at Adams'; - "HEY DOUG"!!
Absolute fun video to watch
I drove thru your town about a month ago. Nice area! Thanks for the comment
We just started doing roadside stands. We have multiple stands on wheels for one location. We split and stack directly onto the racks and just change them out as they become empty. Cuts the handling of the wood down to just once. Working great so far
Yes Adam is a great guy! Well done Joe, once again. I agree, there is a lot of potential in selling firewood this way, and it particularly fits with your current business model. Len (Devon 🇬🇧)
I agree Len. I need to make sure this is what I want to do
Good Morning Joe and Adam, it’s a great idea for making extra money using a road side stand for the individual home owner. Making it profitable enough as a business model it will be interesting to see how you figure that out. It does have more costs and challenges involved. Joe, you mentioned that firewood is a commodity and I agree with you on that and with the costs of things going up. Especially fuel prices which is a big driving factor on other product costs. Determine a sale price for the firewood that will attract customers and also be profitable will be a challenge in itself. Adam you need to increase your firewood prices at the stand so you can cover your costs of fuelling your tractor and maintaining your equipment as well. Have a great day!
I am not super deep into numbers. I am not an economist but I do see things from the eye of making profit and executing a plan. I see a model for these stands but I need to spend some time researching etc.
Great to see two channel owners I subscribed to and watch every video. to see both together it’s awesome 👍. I have wanted to put a road side stand as well as I live close to a main road to a recreational resort. After watching this I may put plans in motion. Thanks Joe & Adam for all the awesome content from both channels. 👌🏻🔥🇨🇦 Brad
Get it going Brad! You can do it.
Awesome Joe! I been thinking about doing this exact same thing. Can't wait to see what you come up with.
Well... lol...I'm not sure if I will but I am at least going to look into it.
I will have to check Adam's videos. I don't remember seeing his bundling process. Good visit and good little business model.
He has a wrapper. I can't remember what kind it is though
Great vid…with a great guest! 👍👍
Adam is a super cool guy to be around.
lol enjoyable video. Thanks guys!
Great video guys looks like the stand in front of my house. Take care, Ben.
Thanks for watching Ben. Hope you are movin' that wood!
Great video guys. One thing I thought about was flipping the stand around to where the sign and pay box face the driveway. I’ve bought wood like that before and the pay box was a little tucked away at the very end. Just a thought.
We talked about that. I think he was going to nail it to the other side..
I think I watched this being built on there Chanel. I think they do really well with it. Hope your good joe. 🏴👍
Thanks Mike!
My roadside stands are very busy year round I think they are a great addition to a firewood business
Great to hear Russ!!!!
Great job guys!
Thanks Tom!
Hey Joe you may have gotten a “bunch” of ideas from Adam but you also got a “bundle” of ideas too! Tim in northern TN PS. I always appreciate your serious business idea presentations.
Thanks Tim. I'm not sure yet if this is something I want to do but I need to find ways to maximize my profit per stick
Good to see you and Adam together
He is super cool Josh!!
@@ohiowoodburner you are both super cool as is Dan and Scheib along with Mike Morgan. Met all of you at the Bunyan show last fall. Hopefully see you there this year.
Hi guys. Thanks for the video. I live out in the country in north east Pa. In my area you do need a permit from the township for a stand unless it’s a farm stand. I’ve found theft to be minimal for the last 2.5 yrs. For me bundles, are my top seller. I’ve though about your business model of stands too. Have a great day👍🏻
Thanks for sharing Chris. Nice to see you being successful
Joe & Adam, awesome video guys 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks Bud!!
I don't think you have ever been a landlord......good video!!
Fast fact. I am a recovering landlord. I owned a number of duplexes and houses. when you are fully rented it is easy money.
Nice video Joe!
Thanks Lou!!!
Great video. I am starting to build my roadside stand.
Keep us updated. Good luck Loyl
Build it and they will come.
Nice! Thanks Greg
Great video Joe! Have a great day!👍👍
Thanks! You too!
hi, Joe, I never tire of wondering what good businessmen you are and do everything competently, but in our country people are poor and try to harvest firewood themselves
Ты никогда не знаешь Виктора. Люди могут быть готовы потратить деньги на покупку дров. Может быть экономия времени
Great video and great info
Thanks Larry!
I haven’t built a roadside stand yet they sure give me the fizz!
Sounds like a good reason to put one in action!!!!
Adam is on my must watch list. His neighbor Doug could have his own channel also.
They are both super cool Harold!
Good morning from Piqua Ohio, keep up the great videos.
Thanks, will do!
Joe, great idea. Be nice if it could be heavy-duty plastic unit with name molded into the structure. Could be a franchise idea, similar to junk hauling. Low cost of entry.
I think a standardized stand would be a way to do this
I have a friend who owns a land clearing company, he does firewood as a way to get rid of excess wood, he has a huge wood lot with 800 to 1000 cord at all times. His operation is mostly hands off automated. He says he averages $8,000 a week in firewood sales.
Sounds like he has a huge operation! That was something I quickly identified that I would never be able to do...I don't have the space or capital to have a high volume operation. I have to make my money with low volume, high margin.
Woah!! that is a lot!
I have found a single sided stand along the drive is the way to go. I offer $10, $20, and $40 slots. People want to be able to pull up to the slot they want and throw it in their car/truck. They don't want to carry it far. I started 3 years ago and sales are outstanding. Sell a quality product and sell a lot of it, word travels fast!!
Great info John. Thanks!
HAHHAAHA. I recognized that rack as soon as I saw it LOL.
Must have been a nice visit with Adam.....
Mike M.
It was a blast. Adam is super cool and has a beautiful property!
Ha! Just like a manager! Standing there talking about how important it is to get this job done- while watching someone else do it, lol.
I saw bundles -rather small ones- in my local supermarket selling for $8. I just laughed, and walked on by- knowing that I can buy LARGER bundles of all ash for $5 on my way home, if I wanted them. Same guy sells loose bins in $10, 20, and 40 denominations. He says he never knows what people will buy this week, so he hedges his bets.
Thanks for the post buddy
Local gas station has about a 30 rack setup, and its sold out in a week or so. 35$ per rack. They also package 8 pieces of wood in a bundle for 10$ Great show!!
Sounds like they are moving some wood there!
Poor Adam, now he needs to paint another sign for the end that faces the driveway. There ya go making work for someone else. 🤪
Great vid keep em comming
Haha. I'm sure he turned it around after I left!
Great video Joe and Adam. You guys got me thinking on another front, living close to the city, I see a lot of people getting into the out door pizza ovens and smokers let alone fire rings/pits. Now, Joe you might see where I am going here. A nice clean bundle (free or dirt, crumbs, etc.) also is a key element to a good presentation along with what Adam mentioned with the wood color. Think like a customer with all aspects. A nice good looking bundle or rack of wood means the seller was thinking about this wood going in the customers car, the color looks good, and the wood should be properly seasoned so it is ready to burn. A side note would be hitting a niche market of good smoker woods, if you can get it, and advertise that you have it in a road side stand or at a location. Just a thought, I get most people just want fire pit wood but what about a small rack of bundles for smoker/cooking woods or even stock jus that wood if that is possible for you as the seller? Just a random thought but I could see Joe possibly or anyone who has access/ability to do this.
Great post bud. I think a crucial part of value added firewood is that it is clean and without mud, bugs, mushrooms etc. Hand loading these stands is also an extra step to clean the wood and bang the crumbs off!
loved the vid!!
Thanks BB!
Ohio man, PA man you can't beat that. Only bad thing about Adam, he drives an orange Tractor. Other than that he's a pretty cool dude.
Ha ha! My old tractor was blue!
This isn’t a bad idea but another idea I like is trying to sell your firewood at some sort of free standing independent shop of some kind that already has a staff that can handle the transaction. Ir might be a repair shop, bait shop, rural grocery store, etc. A buddy of mine worked for a small town, independent hardware store and was able to sell his firewood through them. The store may get a cut but you probably generate more sales and have less theft going on. Just a thought.
Good idea John. I kinda do that now with my bundles but I don't really go after it that hard
it was nice of you driving from Ohio to Pennsylvania, to visit Adam, Would you go and see chris in the wood yard, in Wisconsin,
Adam and I live less than an hour apart. I don't think I could afford to drive my truck to Wisconsin!
Very Funny Joe, I'm a self-loading log truck driver in BC I'm also selling firewood bundle's, I like what you do, I'm going to do firewood as a sideline thing's as when I can buy firewood log's.
They do make vending machines for firewood. In my stand over the past 7 years I've been ripped off only 2 times and it has been only a couple of bundles.
I have been looking at those too. Kinda pricey and require an electrical hook up but looks pretty cool
Hey, come on lads, impressionable young kids may be watching! A $20 bundle containing 30 pieces of wood, that’s 66.6 recurring cents per piece.
Ha ha!! Me an numbers don't get along so for me that's close enough!!!!
Great video Joe. Good to hear others views on how to retail their product. I was a bit surprised that you didn't talk about the $5 bundles. Do they sell fast? Faster than the $20 bins? Would be good to hear how he does with them. Cheers.
Bundles are something I am considering for my idea. I'm still in the research phase
Hi Joe!!😀😀
Are you planning on setting up a few stands in your area to help increase your sales?
Take care my friend!!😀😀
Logger Al
Not sure Al. I like to study, research before I take action.
Nice fake out in the beginning. When you pulled up I thought to myself that looks like Adam's stand 😆
Ha ha. We live pretty close to each other. Beautiful place he has
Suppose you put the stand on a turntable, that had a 3 degree tilt toward the road, and as it was emptied, then the weight of the heavier side would spin itself towards the road?
Joe, Did you ever do a follow-up video of this? Did you ever make yourself a roadside stand (or multiple stands)? -- I'd love to see it if you did! Cheers! --J.Andre.
Is it better to start off with just bundles and a small stand or make a larger stand to make a rack of wood available. Was also thinking of adding contact info if someone wanted more than a bundle.....
I think you sell what can bring you the biggest return. I also think if you are selling bundles to people you should want to keep it at that level. You can make much more money selling bundles than bulk.
so i know a guy who lives in the country, where i harvest wood. the dirt road id like to put a stand is about a mile from his place. obviously the road isnt directly next to his land then. can i place a stand by the road?
I live on a busy road and was thinking about doing this. I have a lot of camper traffic. Was wondering if bundled wood or the stacked wood sells better.
Hard to tell without doing it. I would think bundles would sell bc they wouldn't crumb up a car trunk etc. Thanks Duane
might have been better putting the stand the other way around so the sign and paybox was on the drive side, either that or put a sign on the other end
I think he was going to move it to the other side.
Great video Joe. I'm just getting started selling firewood can you please tell me the measurement on the $20 stack
Hi Steve... LOL I can't remember. I think it was 16" wide and about 2 1/2 feet tall. Somewhere around there.
@@ohiowoodburner Thanks brother. Love your videos your a big help with my new business
We dont have crime like cities in Ohio, but I've only had one theft of about 20 bucks worth of firewood when I was doing the business in my parking lot at my shop.
I don't think theft would be a reason to keep me from doing it. I think they would be pretty profitable regardless
Our local stand sells firewood for $1 a stick and people pay it.
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Joe, I see the wheels of Entrepreneurs turning inside your head. Now I’m watching to see how far you go with this idea. Joe this is in your wheelhouse.
Perhaps it is Mark. I'm just not sure yet. I am excited for the potential but not sure if this is something I would find fun maintaining.
@@ohiowoodburner maybe the money potential would make it fun.
Adam needs to raise those prices up to 25 and 7$ just sayin... time, gas and equipment costs money
Keep in mind, firewood business is a volume business. No other way to make money with that type of business. VOLUME.
Nope, you are incorrect. You make money in firewood with margin. Volume is for the big operations.
@@ohiowoodburner That is probably how I'm thinking, BIG.
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Joe, I doubt you got a bunch of ideas, I'd say you got a bundle of ideas...
Ha ha!! Thanks Jason!!!
I’d love a roadside stand but I think they are technically against our township ordinances…. I should call and check.
Ended up contacting the township where I live. They said road side stands are a no go. However, if I wanted to put some out for a few days here and there they would look the other way…
Interesting
Thanks Buddy
I miss kindling, People are lazy, so if you add kindling to a bundle, so you can light the whole caboose with one match. Wouldn't cost extra money . Or sell smaller bundles with kindling only.
Is a campfire stick longer than a fireplace stick?
Hi Felix. The standard length of firewood is 16" . The "cord" accurate measurement is based on a 16" stick and most fireplaces and stoves are set up on that length. Camp fire wood, of course, can be any length being it is in an outdoor pit. Still if you are finicky on how much you are paying you would want to see a 16" or close stick.
@@ohiowoodburner
The 0.75 USD-stick seemed to be that long in your hand what is the reason I asked.
I am cultivating flowers and let the people cut them directly on the fields. A Self-Service fire wood stand would be easy to be added to the fields. But during summer time it will be more campfire wood.
Poor back40, he has to fly to your place weekly for the pod casts in the woodhounds studio and you go visit this random fellow.🤣😜
I am in a place I don't think I could do a stand as I am in a not so great area so theft I think would be an issue for sure..
My road has very light traffic. Besides I'm thinking more city locations.
G'day Joe, when are you going to drive down and visit me ? .
Asking good questions like permits, costs, cash flow, time, equipment, marketing exposure, ie; traffic, methods of payment, etc. All should be in your business plan, not off the top of your head.
Nope. You can figure that out without process. If you can balance a check book you can run a business. Don't let people talk you out of a good idea with something you would have been better off taking action.
Try making a business model. A guide you can follow, like an algorithm, what direction you follow. The business model and plan is the base from which you operate. It can change direction as you grow, however, try not to tip the scale on your original business model.
Nope... not for me.
@@ohiowoodburner Having fun meeting people and being happy with your passion is how you live long.
It was easyer to read and see the other way .If the frount gets cleand out people will keep driving by . Yep kid's =free labor
Good point. In Adam's case I think he can get on it pretty quick for replenishment
Is it bad that I know exactly who’s stand that is without watching the entire video?
LOL... Sounds like you watch a good share of TH-cam!! Thanks John
Joe I see you putting these at corner stores and the like , well look you're thinking that already . Hey guess I'm getting sharper for a slow Canadian in the north . eh
Ha ha! I still don't know what I will do but I hope to get this figured out eventually. Thanks Mark
Dont worry about theft. Sell,sell sell.
I see where you are going here and I think it’s brilliant. Firewood stands on steroids
Thanks H2. Imma just kicking around the idea right now
G'day Joe and HTA, wouldn't a single front twice the width be better for the facade false appearance of size and you can see what's in stock ? That's how I think but between a marketing expert and an accountant maybe I should mind my own business 🤔☹️😜👍.
Ha ha! I consider you part of the team Ish. Your observations are valuable and appreciated!
Well Joe its nice to be appreciated , I've had a few ideas in my time and ten years later they were invented I'm working on one now that I'm going to follow through with wood industry related 👍.