Firewood Add-On Sales... Making Kindling
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ส.ค. 2024
- Would you like fries with that?? Firewood is also an item that has a number of add-on sales opportunities. Fire starters, racks, stacking, and certainly kindling. Today I show how I make kindling and how I package it. The way you package your products that can increase your asking price but also can increase brand awareness and return business.
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I don’t know how i found your channel. I don’t split wood, I don’t burn wood, and I don’t live in Ohio. I can’t stop watching. Simple business lessons and passion. Keep up the good work.
I'm the same, in fact, I live in a country (Venezuela) where we doesn't even use firewood, but I enjoy every video: full of humbleness, honesty, wisdom an lots of relaxing and fun.
On the other hand, you should consider using some sort of tonge/big tweezzers (don't know the exact term, just imaging the function) since your fingers are going back and forth too close to that sharp cutting edge.
A suggestion for filling your kindling bags, get a piece of PVC pipe close to the diameter of your bags and cut it slightly longer so it is easily removed, saves you rolling your other one each time. 👍
Those bags look awesome. Everything you do is top-notch and well-thought-out .
Thanks Michael. Adding $10-$15 per cord with a bag of kindling adds up after a while. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner where did you get your bags
@@SwampDonkeyHomesteadlook in the discription he got it linked
The fun of cutting your own trees: each comes pre-packaged with it's own kindling! I just go to where maintenance hauls all the tree trimmings and blow downs with my folding saw ,a pair of loppers, and some 5 gallon buckets. All the tinder and kindling I need- for free! Just takes a bit of effort. Often, a lot of it is dead and dry already- so I can use it right away.
I, too, like to set aside nice strait pieces of maple to split for kindling. Spruce works great, too. Just because sometimes the supply of dead, dry branches is low- and I want a fire. They pop right apart with little effort, and burn really hot- perfect for lighting not-quite seasoned campfire wood, lol.
Thats probably the best kindling video I've seen yet... from cut to split.. branding and packaging.. I may have to borrow 99 % of the process.. where do I send the royalty check to?? Great video keep them coming 👍
Just buy a T shirt and a sticker! LOL. Thanks for the kind words. I am very grateful for your support. Joe
😢my oldest grandson has taken your idea for kindling for value added sales in a firewood business I handed over to him after I became disabled. He has learned so much from you and In The Woodyard equally. Thanks for being a great inspiration
Thanks for the nice post Joe. Keep me updated on your grandson's progress. 73s!
yeah this is why I love watching you guys on you tube gives me new great ideas i have been doing firewood for 40 years and this year is the first ever people ask for kindling and so i was trying to find a way to do it and i found it thank you
Hope it works John. Even if put no logo on the bag the burlap looks AWESOME when it's sitting on top of a firewood order. Has a very classy, high end look to it. Joe
Hey I like the channel. About the painting of the bag with boards maybe try making that into a frame and mount the stencil to the frame. Then it would be I one move motion. Have a get day and I look forward to seeing your videos
Thanks Adam for the idea. I had considered that and agree it would simplify. It is odd to me how since I started this new business there are just some things that "aint gonna get done." LOL. It would be simple for me to make as well. Someday maybe! Joe
What a great way to spend a cold winter day in Kansas. Love watching you work on your woodlot. Thank you for doing your videos.
Glad you like them Brad!
Good morning Joe.... Great idea on the crazy carpet sled sleeve and your bags stencilling ... Very clever and that why I enjoy watching your vids.. Plus you just gave me some ideas what to do with all the crumbs that are left over when one uses a firewood processor, Thanks for sharing !
Thanks! that sled was laying around my barn for years and it just clicked. It is a great tool bc it rolls up by itself and stores nicely when not in use.
im new to wood since I have a fireplace for 2 years, I buy face cords then chop it up in smaller pieces with my axe (handle already cracked after a week) sometimes I get scammed on wood in regard to quality. I wish I had a guy like u in Michigan, great channel I found you from Adam's channel hometown
I just got approved to sell kindling bundles today next to my wood bundles. Thanks so much for these videos, I'm going to use western red cedar. Thanks for the silver maple tip too
Awesome kindling process. The bags are really cool. Nice job.
Thanks Richard. The customers really like their purchase when I show up with one of these. Joe
Those bags look super professional. You really know how to create high end firewood products
Thanks Adam. I didn't start this way...it was a steady progression. I hope you are well. We still need to hook up before the weather turns! Joe
Great video once again. I love the added value and plastic sled trick. Those were the fastest thing on the hills until the jet sled for ice fishing came out. Those things are stupid fast!! I also like the technique on making flat sheets of wood on the Supersplit to stack. Makes quick work.
Thanks harold. I finally got the trick down about splitting the round in half, splitting one side, then flipping it over for the other side. Took me a few times but got it down now! Joe
This reminds me to start busting up my pine for splits. I used to use fat wood but after seeing the greasy smoke it makes i have since moved away from it... thanks for another fun video.
Thank RS. I never get any softwoods but I would use silver maple anyway. It makes very nice kindling and when the rounds dry enough the bark comes right off. Joe
Thanks for these videos. I really enjoy seeing all of the different aspects of the firewood business and how you not only make more sales but advertise and get brand recognition at the same time. It's fun investigating the possibility of doing this in my area.
Stu...I think it's time to go for it. Gets some sales and let the market take you where you need to go. Joe
Interesting video. Glad I found your channel. Very informative and professional.
Nicely done Joe. American pride and ingenuity at work.
Thanks Thomas! Joe
Those bags are awesome, you’ve taught me so many great business strategies, great videos
Thanks Parker. Good luck with your endeavors. Joe
Well done video on your efficient process.
That machine makes quick work of it! Nice touch on the bags!
Thanks Killinger. Making kindling is a nice break in my routine. It's fun. Joe
High quality kindling and presented in a nice bag. Much value added here. Great way to increase sales revenue. Thanks, you show us again hard work, planning and care is valuable.
Thanks JB. The little things start to add up. Joe
Great Ideas, I spent 25+ yrs in retail so I know what you're talking about when you say Up-selling. I may have to 'Borrow (aka steal)' some of your ideas here when and if I can start a business selling firewood.
IMO the 3 most important things with a firewood business is Sales, sales, sales! Joe
That’s the best looking kindling that I have seen and the quickest way to make it!
Thanks AAH. I think this shows if you just put a little extra effort into kindling you can create way more value and can charge a premium. Joe
Great advice again. Far productive than cutting down trees buying a Skidsteer and a processor. Buy the wood, bundle it and sell it.
I split mine the same way but use red cedar, I had the local sheet metal shop make me a tube that fits in my bags. We think alike 👍👍.
Another good video
Thanks Terrell. Great minds! Joe
Nicely done Joe. I use maple branches cut at 14" on my chop saw then split by hand, which is very medicinal to me. I stack them in copy paper cases that I have accumulated over the years. Mostly for my own use but I sell them at times at church fairs and it is very well received.
That sounds like a nice process. I really think making firewood is its own form of therapy. Joe
Your Last Name Must be Smart, Joe Smart , Love this add on and a great looking Bag, thank you Joe for another Great Video
LOL Thanks Harry. I will make sure to show my wife this comment! Joe
Brother, you are an entrepreneur extraordinaire! Watching your operation, I keep thinking how in the world do you figure your costs? You must have a great CPA. You are such a great resource for any thinking businessman. Thanks and keep on educating the rest of us!
Thank you for this information
You could sale kindling or camp fire wood in rough cut board milk crates...it would look great for just sitting near a fireplace... don't even need to have fires in a fireplace but just having something that has a good look to it brings character to the house.
I like that idea. Maybe a monogrammed board on the front of it. I will add that to my list of things to look at. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner awesome...I was looking at Uline, I believe that's what it's called, packaging products and there's burlap wrapping material that would be much cheaper than using a bag for fire wood and more eco friendly with an old world classic feel to it ...if I was in the firewood buissness I would try that...the appearance would be better than plastic and it's something like .20 cents per yards worth of material...while firewood bags go for around .50 cents and up...
Sandbag's 12-B Lego's played with thousands of those .Those look very nice and neat
Thanks. Joe
Love the idea of the kindling
Thanks Josh. It looks really good when it's delivered with the firewood. The bag colors really complement the wood. Joe
You know you would make a fortune teaching your knowledge as for me I am simply grateful that you have taught me so much so thank you
I had said before that when I quit my career I became the richest man in the world! Thanks Harry for the kind words. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner hopefully you making a fortune teaching thru TH-cam!!!
Great idea!
Glad you think so!
really cool process .. that kindling, wow that cool ..
That's sweet, good thinking
Thanks ALL. I hope you have been well. Joe
Looks nice 👍
Thank you for the video great video
Great video!
Every load I send out gets a little cedar. At least here in the NW cedar dries out really fast and splits does witha hatchet super easy..
Nice set up for sure. And you get to do a little tagging too.. Lol
Tagging or huffing!
That's a great idea, thanks for all the great info
Sure thing Glenn. I hope you are well. Joe
Morning Joe, no doubt your business should be Ohio Wood Burner Ltd professionals! Nice job buddy 👍
Thanks for the kind words Dave. I love what I do! Joe
Too bad you're not in Texas, your approach to sales is refreshing and as a long time sales professional I'd partner with someone like you in a heartbeat!
Great job
Thanks!
I have put in action a business plan to work my way into the fire wood business. I have an limitless supply of flats, cut those to kindling sell that and buy a splitter. Then sell fire wood, also buy firewood from a BIG cutter and start a delivery/stacking service. Thanks Joe
Great video, thanks.
You are welcome!
love the branding idea. I will be using that for my business.
Back in the day when I was selling 80 to 100 cords a year. I would give free kindling and 10x10 tarp with every cord purchase. Have a good one buddy and take care.. be safe out there..
I used onion sacks. [New] They had a white square on them. Stamped it with rubber address stamper...
Great job its alot of work whoever does it really appreciates and knows
It's a labor of love Jody! Joe
Great idea Joe keep up the good work.
Thanks Mark. As long as it's fun i will. Joe
Very good Joe, nice and neat. Have a great day.
Thanks Mark! Joe
Watched two of your videos today. Started with, "What's the price of peace?" and then this one. Adding you to my firewood learning along with the channel "Hometown Acres". Want to start a business here in Philly and want to gain wisdom through your experience.
I can split a lot of wood but solid business practices are just as important so I don't waste my time.
Just subbed and clicked the bell. Looking forward to learning from you. 👍🏾
Welcome Kid Philly. It is a pleasure to meet you. FYI Hometown Acres and I did a joint video this summer racing my firewood processor vs his log splitter. We both posted our own videos about the day. check them out. We post every Sunday and Wednesday and the videos revolve around running the delivery service, my successes and setbacks. I hope to hear from you again. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner that's how you ended up in my recommended list. I've seen the video you are referring to. Happy to now be a sub and maybe one day, when I get big enough, we race too. Just posted my first firewood video with more to come. th-cam.com/video/6tIwWV4Wjzg/w-d-xo.html
I see this as another way to prove we are more alike then different. Feel free to check out my channel as well! Lots of Eagles videos with Salsa, piano, and comedy as well. Hope to hear from you too! Have a great day!!
Once again I enjoyed your video.
Your wife can make your logo into a stencil using Inkscape. It’s free and fairly easy to use.
Thanks for the tip David! I hope you are staying well. Joe
Quality wood and bags!
Thanks Steve! Joe
Very nice kindling, 👍🏼🇱🇷
Thanks Larry! Joe
Salute to the firewood king
Who? Me? LOL. Thanks. Joe
Excellenté 😏😏😏
Just started watching your channel very cool, enjoying!👍
Thanks so much Mike. Please sub if you haven't already. We post every Wed and Sun. I hope you are staying well. Where are you from? Joe
I split and burn my own wood and make my own kindling too , i love it but a wood splitter is essential . You make it look easy .
those kindling bags look classy! nice job there :)
Thanks! 😊 Joe
Hinge a frame with the stencil on bottom. Lower to spray, lift for next
Great video Joe. I really enjoy these videos. You always have unique outlooks on these added steps such as kindling. I Normally include a small bundle of kindling within a firewood bundle and charge a bit more. How much do charge for the bundle bag? Have a good one Joe!
My kindling is purely add on sales. Not every delivery wants a bag but it is a good way to add $10- $12 to an order. Joe
Look into a Eastonmade Axis to make the kindling a heck of a lot faster and many other uses as well.
Definitely agree with the eastonmade brand!!
probably a nice machine, but you'd need to sell A LOT of kindling to justify it if that's the only thing you'd do with it!
@@Deutschehordenelite it is a very diversified splitter. It can be used for many types of firewood applications.
@@mjmtreeservicemaintenance2940 no doubt, but does it make sense with the processor? I'm not convinced - maybe if the super splitter bites the dust some day :)
I have seen the Axis at work and I think it looks great. Maybe some day. Where I would use that the most would be if I took tree service wood.
Good video ! Get somebody to plasma cut a 1/8” steel plate ( or better yet aluminum ) for your company stencil ! they can do some really cool designs in steel these days ( freebee tip from ‘Woody’s Firewood’ ) ....Gary, sawmillin’ on Michigan’s east side
Interesting.... I may look into that! Joe
My processor adds kindling to the product going in my truck so I was looking at giving a branded bag with the idea being that you have about a 50lb sack worth of kindling. It would be my first effort to do any branding. I really like that burlap sac stencil. Doing something like that would fit my brand identity
It was very easy for me to do. Get some stencils, masking tape, etc ... spray paint is cheap! Joe
You got my wheels turning.
Good to hear Jaysen. Best advice is to put together a plan and execute it. Plan doesn't have to be perfect...just get it done! Joe
Joe good your always thinking about making extra $$$ in your back pocket . Some time the little things in life move faster them the big stuff in firewood business joe . Think safety and alway put safety first . After a hard in the wood yard , put your feet up and have a rooster foot on beaver ice and listen to beautiful Newfoundland tunes . Lol enjoy your dream ! remember music and friends go together.
How many others do the top down fire starting process? One of the best smoke free ways to start a fire in a wood stove.
I had seen vids on it but I have never used it myself. Joe
As usual, great video! Thanks for all the useful information. I would recommend some advice that might help you speed up a little though. Firstly, does your machine require you to activate the ram rod after each time you use the saw? If not I would recommend on that smaller stuff just let like 3 or 4 chunks pile up and then push them through. Secondly, have you ever thought of a way to make a jig for your super splitter to make the smaller pieces instead of your current method. I'm sure a jig would say you tons of time, definitely once you go to splitting a bunch of kindling and you wouldn't have to worry about those thumbs. That seriously scared me seeing you do it that way, it seems as if you know what you're doing, but better be safe than sorry. I work at a sawmill and I know know how easy it is for an accident to happen, like a limb gets caught on your glove and tries to take you in the machine. Anyways that's just some ideas I have that might help you increase production and be more safe. Keep the videos coming!!! I absolutely love them!!! And if you want I think I've already thought of a kindling jig for you super splitter that should work🙂, free of charge 😉
I have tried a jig before and it didn't work quite the way I thought it would. I like to be able to find the sweet spot for each slice instead of the jig determining it. I kept messing up my stacks and it would get wood caught between the wedge and the jig. Thanks for the ideas. I am always looking to be more efficient and safe! Joe
I like the way you operate. What does a bag of kindling retail for ? Thanks for the video.
thanks George. I haven't set my prices yet. Prob around $10-$12...
That woodguy pvc and vegetable mesh
Hey Harold! I like his kindling. Those roll bags are pretty cool. Joe
We have woods full of invasive amur honeysuckle. Been thinking about cutting it up and sell as kindling. It burns really good and want to rid our woods of it.
2 tips, you seem to do lots of unnecessary handling, make a frame for the spray paint timber,,, That way you handle it twice, once on and once off, instead of the 6 times you are handling the 3 bits of timber. It adds up over 100 bags or say 1000 bags for example,,,, super splitter can have a kindling splitter knife made up and fitted over the single split knife, the hydraulik power is has enough oompff for it
Joe, have you considered making a frame, like the t shirt guys have for silk screening? Not having to stack and remove the ballast pieces.
Ask your restaurants if you can place your business cards in the waiting area for customers to pick up. “Commissioned firewood supplier of Logan’s Roadhouse”
I put all of that on FB. Right now I am trying to slow down my residential business until I am comfortable with my seasoned supply. Joe
For your bags if you go to FM Expressions, you can get iron on transfers for 15 cents each after a set up fee ......you can do your logo and all too. Find a cheap heat press and you can make a new bag every 10 seconds
Interesting. Thanks Benjamin. I will check them out. Joe
@@ohiowoodburner I've used their stuff a lot, it's good quality and easy to press. You can get a sampler pack of their stuff for free I believe if you want to try their stuff on a bag to make sure it'll work for ya, lot easier, faster too.
Kindling looks prime and those bags do too! My suggestion would be to screw the 3 sticks together and then staple the stencil onto it :)
Do customers return the bags?
I had thought of making a jig/brace for the bags but It would be something else to be in my way. lol. The sticks are easy to use and are just the right weight to no squish the stencil and make the letters pucker. Joe
Great video. Saw a comment about customers returning bags. Maybe a good gimmick, offer a discount(roughly the cost of the bag) for next purchase with return of the bag (in good condition)
1) encourages repeat business(everyone wants a discount)
2) plays to the recycle crowd
3) saves labor/cost in making new bags
You obviously have this business squared away, but that was my initial thought when watching you make your bags.
Hi Joe Have you tried a small paint roller it may save a bit of time
So why didn’t you split them in half initially? The very first thing you did with the whole rounds to make the actual kindling was split them in half... couldn’t you skip that step when cutting to 10”?
When I watched the video back the first few I did were not done the way I usually do them. It takes me a while to get back into the swing of things. lol. If you look at the later ones I split in half, lay one side on the table, layer the other side, THEN flip it over and lay it down. This allows the top of the other half to go back onto the stack as it came off. Not sure if I'm making sense. LOL. Joe
Morning Joe, those stenciled bags look great, very high end. Do you find people generally return the bags when they get their next order? How do you price your kindling? I would assume double the cost of a standard bundle?
Hi Jason. I have had a few customers give me the bag back as an exchange but that is done by their own... The bags are sold with the kindling IMO. I have seen some bags folded up in garages. I have seen one customer repurpose it for holding other items.
@@ohiowoodburner even better if they repurpose, more opportunity for more eyes to see and ask "what's OWB".
join those sticks together to make a frame..........a few minutes will save much time over the years.
Well done what do you charge per bag Joe? It’s also nice and uniform.
Great channel!!! Where do you get your burlap bags (16x24)?
Joe, if I may be so bold, Id like to know where you buy the bags...I live in Oregon, and would like to upgrade my own Kindling .
I put the link in the description. Here it is in case you missed it. www.uline.com/BL_360/Burlap-Bags-with-Tie
If you can find a way to lay the bag flat while you're filling it, gravity will work for you allowing the sticks to lay flay and not interfere with loading. Just a thought.
With the cost of your bag including the sewing- the paint - the wood- I am curious as what is the cost to the client. I am in Canada and I sell them by the box.(banana box)
I charge $12 for the kindling. It is a nice upsell. The bags cost me about $0.80 each. Paint was $1 for the can at a discount store! lol. Joe
More than reasonable.
Great videos.
How much do you sell one of those bags of kindling for?
Hi Brian. I havent set my prices yet but prob between $10-$12 Joe
where do you purchase your burlap bags from?
The burlap bag I sell is 14" x 26" and you can find a good price by shopping around. I have had very good luck with Uline. Here are the bags I purchased.
www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-16506/Burlap-and-Cloth-Bags/Burlap-Bags-with-Tie-14-x-26
Hi how much do you charge for a bag of your kindling? I don’t know how much to charge for mine thanks love your videos!
Woulf karge wood chips be a good kindling?
I think the would be functional but at least for me my kindling needs to be good looking too. I keep them at 10" long and very small split. Joe
NIce! That should be about 20"X10"X10"? about 1.15 cubic feet?
Hey pal, what kinda pricing would you charge for a bagged load of kindling for residential? Thank you!
Thanks, but I'll never give up on my Fat Wood. 2 stick, fire up and walk away. Five min later your logs are lit.
i had seen Fat Wood a few years back. Looks like a great product. Thanks for watching Ian. Joe
Joe great video , I might of miss it but where did you get your stencil made . Thanks ne penn
I made it with a Criket. It is a pretty simple stencil made on card stock. Joe
Joe great idea, I do my kindling from maple as well. I love the bags!! How much do you charge for a sack of sticks? How many do you think you sell a year?? Thanks
I love the kindling bags! (And the filling method) are you selling it by a certain volume in the bag or just “a bag full?”
The bag is 24" tall. I put two layers of 10" kindling in them. It makes a full bag with a little flap at the top. I have a smaller bag I use for "complementary" kindling.
Sell the long matches, and Fat Wood. Fat wood more the summer time camp out or patio fire chimney!!!
How much does your total equipment cost