@@gfixler - *"and the more you give me, the less I'll wonder where you got it from."* You mean until money starts disappearing from your bank account. Thats why its called a scam.
It had to be SO satisfying when he realized he 100% correct. I know he posted on Twitter, but just that 'jump up from the chair, fists pumped, screaming "I freakin' KNEW IT!' loud enough to alarm the neighbors. _Guttural_ levels of "I told you so" satisfaction.
Funnily enough, this was the slogan of extremist femnist groups in Spain when talking about how clubs and bars let women in free but asked for money to men
I like how Mark fully admitted that he MIGHT be wrong, as he himself confessed he was basing his feeling on very little, but hey, his gut feeling panned out.
@@BhBc8f8yeah I think if TH-cam is promoting sponsors like this it’s safe to say it’s a scam. Never trusted Honey but I also didn’t really care. Pie is also giving me hard scam vibes bc why is TH-cam advertising an Adblock after going to war against all Adblocks a few months ago lol
Ngl I want a short video where he just takes a spoonful of honey, eats it, looks at the camera saying "yeeeah" and then leaves (with nothing happening for a few seconds before the video ends)
You're probably not going to know which one, either. Asking that question of everything, so routine it's not even thinking, is not the easiest way to live in these days. Nor does it paint a pretty picture of the world. Doing the hard thing is often the right thing, and even if you dismiss the risk to yourself of not constantly asking who benefits and who suffers I kind of prefer thoughtlessly getting blood on my hands even if it's someone else's.
@@cyborgninjamonkey Jesus, that's convoluted. Yeah, what this guy is saying: Knowledge is power, and you can use that power against yourself. He'd rather have the blissfulness of ignorance than know the hard things to swallow.
@@nabajitdas7559 I'm agreeing with the OP that there are times asking where money is coming from can save your life. That always asking where money is coming from by instinct is hard and makes a lot of things look grim. That I think it's worth it anyway, even if it doesn't save your life because being hyperaware of where money/resources come from and similar things lets you avoid contributing to things that are fucking over *someone*. Sorry for the sentence structure before, no idea what happened to my brain on that one. Hopefully it makes sense now.
Im glad Mark was at least honest and upfront about the scam even when he didnt have much information about it. Unlike Linus Tech Tips that swept it under the rug and never took any steps to notify their audience about the known shady practices.
Tbf all LTT knew was that Honey was stealing money from influencers. Which in a capitalistic POV, something that viewers *shouldn't* care about, else nobody would run an adblocker to ensure creators get a few extra bucks. Also, something is weird. Honey made paid deals to *prevent* found coupons to show up with the shops who paid Honey. *That's* scamming the end user. And yet... the backlash is all about how they stole the money from content creators. I'm happy the word is getting out but... why? Since when people care about TH-camrs signing with sponsors? I feel the drama has been pushed artificially, but I have no idea who or why.
@laplongejunior I understand the confusion. My initial thoughts were the same. Then I learned that Honey was sniping referrals from Creators that weren't pushing thier product. For example, let's say a channel advertises Vessi shoes and is paid by Vessi by referral links. If Honey pops up while you are checking out, Honey then snipes the referral bonus from the creator and the creator gets nothing for advertising. THAT is the part that gets me frustrated. I was trying to support my favorite creator by buying something I was interested in. The creator drove the sale, and Honey stole the profits. That's where the frustration comes from I think
I'm pretty sure LTT made more than enough income even with the Honey loss. Maybe the sponsorhip made even more money than the loss. Besides, Honey probably hurt the competition more than him, so he didnt bothered.
@@hideo6449 He's done a few. The immediate sponsorships that come to mind are Best Fiends, AFK Arena and Dislyte. He's also joked that "I need sponsorships, I will completely sell out, just give me a sponsor," but that's mainly due to his food review arc where he got fucked by DelMonte, Takis and Sour Patch Kids. We still remember when DelMonte tried to thank him for making a video by sending a small bulk crate of cans, and he was just like... no. 😂 But also he's never even sold out to the company he is sponsored by. The games above, he made the ads to his direction, and was worried that they would think it was too weird and cancel the ad sponsorship. And apparently it worked, because it's the same company that made AFK Arena and later Dislyte, so he must've won them over, at least. 😅 -🪼/🖊
It's simple pattern recognition. Once you learn this, you never forget it and you start seeing scams everywhere and most of the time your gut instinct is correct.
It's an old age adage... I gave up on people and can't spend my time explaining to people who fall on ads so easily. I pretty much felt like Markiplier as soon as I learned about it. Specially when it comes to brands that push deals with most, if not all creators. 😂
Its why tourists get scammed more often than the locals. Even something as basic as homeless people westerners in say Croatia will see beggars and think "oh the poor guys need our help" everyone thats been for a while will recognize its the same exact groups with their own handlers and everything
@@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYouUnderestimated, overestimates require it to have been something like 6+ years it's the same logic as when someone overestimates or underestimates the value of something
@@JaymzShikari I believe in the context of being humble here, it’s considered an overestimation since it took longer than he expected for the scam to be revealed. Overestimating here implies expecting something to happen greater precision or speed than it actually does.
@@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYouif you believe that others are as adept as you are, you assume they will catch on quickly. this is an underestimation of your own intelligence.
I'm not being a wise ass when I say this. I do like mark as a person, but this doesn't make him smart. It just means he has common sense, something that alot of people seem to lack???
@@tpfoxCastro I don't know if OP is talking about a specific scam, but right off the top of my head I know a lot of DNA companies will turn around and just sell the information they get from you.
23andMe is looking more and more like it's going out of business. There are major concerns that it will sell its DNA database to 3rd parties as it's clause notes possession of DNA findings when using their service.
It was always an obvious scam, stupid people just refuse to believe they're wrong and call people smarter than them "conspiracy theorists" so they have an excuse to plug their ears and ignore them
apparently he cried when he hit a certain subscriber count because he realised he'd never get to personally know all of his fans, and they had become just a number. I trust mark alot
@@connorh2215same! Mark (and Jacksepticeye, 8 bit Ryan and a couple more guys) but especially Mark I would not be able to handle. Though knowing Mark and the people he hangs out with (Bob and Wade) and having listened to Distractable - I hope my intuition is right and that he is OK. He's good in my book. But having watched him for over 10 years - parasocial relationship is very real here.
I am super glad that Markiplier spoke out about his concerns regarding honey. and I love the fact that he says it is a gut feeling cause I had the same feeling like something wasn't adding up. I remember searching up honey after a bunch of youtubers talked about it but the feeling I got screamed at me to not install it at all. trusting your gut.
Yea, this seems to me more like healthy skepticism towards a service the business model of which you don't understand, rather than a prescient "prediction" of things to come.
Nah he knew. But he could not make claims without proof as he had none. But he knew damn well what's going on. I mean let's be real, look at him. He knows whats up. Many people knew whats up. But making these claims without proof can get you in serious trouble. So, playing the skeptical game is the best way to make people aware. When I saw this I was like 'well duh'. Most people who understand how these businesses work, know it's a scam. And so does he. Money has to come from somewhere. If it isn't clearly visible how a company stays in business, ask yourself where the money comes from. But unfortunately not everyone understands the many ways people do business. Plenty of people don't even know what an affiliate is, let alone how it works. And most people have no idea about the power of cookies. The Facebook pixel is quite infamous for this reason. I find it hard to believe Mark didn't know their business model. He knew. But he's in the online marketing business himself. He knows business, he does business. He knows the tips and tricks. It's not hard to figure it out. If you know about these methods, it's not difficult to put one and one together. What Mark did here is a subtle attempt to make people aware and hopefully stay away from it.
@elogyi5629 if you don't understand something you should question it till you do. Is what they are saying. People blindly trust too much these days and get scammed as a result.
Look all I’m saying is that we take care of them and they just make honey for free? Something’s going on in those beehives, and I for one welcome our new bee overlords
I asked this too when Honey blew up and was like "how do they make money, this makes no sense" and someone was like "oh it's probably just data collection". Oh how the turns have tabled.
They’re usually working with companies to get commissions from sending people to websites, as well as user data. What you buy often isn’t worth the amount it’s sold for, even on sale they make money for these products. It’s not as bad as you think.
@@dareal5401 if it's love you're saying, itvakso isn't free. Sometimes it won't cost money but it sure cost effort Also, what do you mean "expensive things are free"? How does that make sense?
worst part olmost every program that you can download either paying or free does it, just check their EULA always data collection even when they claim they dont
I think people were in fact expecting them to sell data about purchases and user behavior and such. A lot of people are willing to accept that to gain savings. The triple whammy of probably selling user data, provably swooping in and covertly swapping affiliate links, being very cagey about the quality of the coupon codes on top of allegedly pressuring businesses to partner up using fake coupons to incite dissatisfaction for customers is still something.
@@Jeffrey-s9ntechnically if honey makes the discounts they show too high then companies won't work with them so it would lose them more and more money the higher the discounts are.
@@Jeffrey-s9n He didn't say that they lose money. He said that if they offered the service they claim to offer, they'd be losing money. Which is true. If you have a free extension that acts as an aggregator for coupons, they will lose money unless they're doing something to monetize their service. Honey's actual business model is irrelevant, because he's saying that the promoted model doesn't work. If Honey were actually skimming and aggregating coupons to offer the best deal to users with no cost to the user, the company would be operating on net negative, even if they spent no money on advertising. Behind the scenes, there was basically two ways for Honey to make money. Either their service doesn't do what it says and they pull the shit that they actually did; or, they sell user information to marketers. These are the only two options that would actually make Honey profitable, outside of a subscription model. A subscription model probably would've been the best option for most consumers, too. Honey's platform is pretty lightweight, if they just operated a coupon skimmer and acted as a deals aggregator, they could've pretty easily managed a small staff with minimal overhead. But, it wouldn't have been as lucrative. Probably easier and more long-term as a product, though.
i feel like when we were all taught internet literacy 101 one of the first rules was 'don't download something to your desktop that promises to give you money' idk ://
I uninstalled after Honey only found me 10% discount and a quick Google search found 30% on a Bose headphone. Also even for a lot of sites there's 10% from signing up to marketing mails and it can't even find me simple codes like Welcome10
To be fair, many companies who aren’t scams have spent millions in advertising while not making money. Some previous examples being Uber, Moviepass, Lyft. It could have been a reasonable assumption that honey was burning through investor money to fund this insane advertising with a plan later down the line to monetize their user base. Just food for thought.
@@josephstalin1741All of those services you listed are actually, believe it or not, making money on the basis of the service they provided. There’s a distinct difference in a business not making a solid profit margin or even going negative, but they still get your money when you use their service and you know where and when they take it. Honey has literally, no legitimate form of income. Their whole business model is “we give free coupons!” Which is not a business model that will be getting you this level of investing or advertisement. I’m sorry but that is not a fair comparison.
this is why we love mark! hes not a brand shill that will advertise anything to his viewers so he can make a quick buck. he cares about the well being of his audience and hes not going to push something that he himself doesnt trust. and its been proven time and time again that his judgement is top notch ❤
Mark is seriously a lot smarter than people realise. I know he acts like a goofball many times, but have you seen him doing puzzles in certain games? He’s got a lot up there. I love it.
most celebrities, especially self made ones, are actually geniuses. they make it look easy and pretend to be just one of the boys but they tend toward savviness.
He’s an utter goofball, I love it. Very much reminds me of myself. Since I was practically raised on his videos I probably stole the personality from him
@@X_Otman Those aren't selling anything. Open source isn't a business, they're essentially public projects that also don't push marketing because they don't actually care if anyone downloads or not.
Well Linus did found out what's going on with honey in 2022, it just didn't gain any traction outside of the Linus tech tips forum, so in this case Mark is actually spot on
a lot of people probably thought they just sell your online purchases data (which they probably also do) and don't care that much about advertisers knowing what they buy, but nobody thought they would actively scam the customers, the creators, and the shops at the same time
I love it when humankind has a natural suspicion to something. You can’t quite put it into works or words, but it’s just natural to “I don’t trust this…” and it ends up being true.
@@masonlund8715hate to be that guy but the lineage of evolution that led to humans only split from chimpanzees ~7 million years ago, and dinosaurs were wiped out ~65 million years ago. What’s more likely is that the feeling would save you from a trap set by another tribe, or being killed by wolves
“Where is honey getting the money from” That is literally the concept of the scam and this man just single handedly found out the biggest scam in youtube history.
@@malikkelly Considering how widespread honey sponsorships were across top TH-camrs of literally every possible genre, I don't think its a stretch to call this the biggest scam in TH-cam history.
@@DisastrousIntentionally Yeah also because of how much they paid huge influencers to promote their product that scammed the person promoting the product and the buyer.
I love how at the beginning of the video markiplier is just doing a quick “okay guys hear me out here” and then it quickly devolves into rambling and insanity as he dives deeper into the honey rabbit hole
He's not the only who thought this. Anyone with a functional brain that thought about it for more than a few seconds would have come to the same conclusion.
This didn't just age like fine wine. This aged like Vincent Van Gogh's artpieces. He only got really famous after dying and his art is now worth millions.
Funny you say that considering that any purple he used had a red that fades significly faster then the blues under light. A few letters had people suspect this with the painting Irises for some time, and was tested in the pandemic where they found bromine in the paint, which is known to have a brown red hue. It unknown how many of his paintings have been effected by this.
"Nothing good* in life is free." There will always be a cost to good. That's not to say it's hard to be good; in fact, I'd say it's an innate feature most humans share that is often neglected. What that means is, you have to work to get good things... that is the cost. Good things don't appear out of thin air, and the ones that do often come with a negative consequence (another price to pay). From what I understand, the phrase is sort of meant to mean that true goodness comes from fairness.
I'd always assumed it was 1 of 2 things 1. The "savings" they got customers was mostly because of their own affiliate codes but they just didnt disclose that 2. They were stealing user data of shopping habits and reselling it to less scrupulous individuals
@oye6124 it's stealing if the users don't consent to it openly. the users agree to receive coupon codes for free, not in exchange for their personal data to be sold.
honey never made sense, a coupon clipping browser extension that spends millions on ad campaigns? that gets bought by paypal for 4 billion? i quit using honey years ago when i saw a video calling them out for their shady shit, but apparantly no one else at the time gave a shit.
I quit honey years ago when it never gave me any fucking functional coupons on any site I used, ever, not once did I ever get a coupon and saved money... by the 20th 'use this code' I was checked out the door.
Yeah, who was calling it out back then? Did they have any real evidence for them being evil (like the cookie stuff) or were they just suspecting things?
1:28 he hit the nail right on the head here. Honey gets paid by corporations to give users false “best discounts” which mislead them from the actual best discounts.
real honey is good for a sore throat not walmart honey which isn't honey, they hide the ingredients facts on the back and tell you to call a number which is shady. but anyways it's like 90% corn syrup.
@@benginaldclocker2891 Ah yes, _Manuka honey._ It sounds gourmet, so laden with health benefits, so _exotic_ - very marketable, in fact. A rare kind of honey that bees can _only_ make by nesting in a tree endemic to New Zealand... that's the kind of thing a tourism board would latch onto for dear life like the barbs of a bee's stingers! ...but has anyone actually analyzed the stuff? Has anyone actually cracked open a bottle of what's being shipped out and checked for _any_ legitimacy to the claims?
because most people they would be marketing to also use youtube...? it's literally normal marketing you dunce, you market to the audience that would want your product @@alexhartline9220
I always assumed as they applied the coupon code they were skimming a few pennies off the savings as a fee and making their money over millions of transactions, which frankly I would have been fine with. The reality was much more sinister
In hindsight it should've seemed obvious that they were getting that sponsorship money from somewhere. But no one investigated where they were getting it from.
Well it's also the fact that Mark doesn't need the Honey sponsorship money (or is greedy enough to take it even though he doesn't need to) Some of the youtubers that took Honey sponsorship, particularly ones well versed in tech (and not just techbros) most likely knew something was up with it but decided to advertise it anyway because that Honey money was too good to deny Same deal with things like NordVPN really
@@Valstrax420 I (and probably a lot of people) assumed they were selling user data, which isn’t great but so is google and every other free service. Wild how much worse it turned out to be.
lmaoo shut the hell up, stop stroking your ego, this is a prediction you moron. I guarantee you had no issue with honey before all this drama coming out publicly.
Markiplier might look like just a rambling man in front of the camera but people tend to forget that this guy has good instincts. Remember, he is a business man.
Yeah, he's been around the block. Being on the internet for so long, especially the Big Stage of the internet, he's seen stuff go down. He knows a thing or two because he's seen a thing or two; and, you know the saying: History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
Jacksepticeyes predicted Mr. Beast Drama, Markiplier predicted Honey Scam, if Pewdiepie predict something happened in the future and its true, we should listen to the holy trinity of youtuber legends... edit : somebody in the reply said that Pewdiepie predicted the demise of Ryan's Toy review channel.i tried to reply but somehow youtube blocked my responses. i was trying to say, "no way" and we finally came full circle.
Yep he said earlier few years back abt Ryan's toys and how it was a bit creepy, about the adults managing the whole thing. Wouldn't be surprised if there was some stuff going on behind
@CryWillus how goofy are you as a 14yr old youtube use, to care about *cough* GRAMMAR AND PUNCTUATION ON TH-cam? I wanna call you so many names but I'm having a good day. Grow up and find real priorities
@@CryWillus how goofy are you to care about grammar and punctuation on youtube??? How old are you??? You have a 14 yr old account what priorities you got in life?? None it seems
I don’t know much about this MarkPlayer guy, but I definitely have to agree he’s soooo expressive and has a cool voice he seems like a cool genuine person and I bet he could be an amazing actor!!
It would have been fine if they simply collected user data for shopping habits or whatever, that's what everyone probably assumed from the start anyways. The scam was that they actively HID coupon codes from you, doing literally the opposite of what they said they did. That's not a "you're the product" situation, that's just a scam.
i also never trusted honey, i would see ads from youtubers saying to download it and i tempted, but then i was like “no … this feels wrong ..” and didn’t . glad to know i was right .
I have always just skipped in-video ads but once I was forced to listen to a Honey ad while cooking and it left me baffled for an entire afternoon. So... they supposedly don't collect your data, they don't run ads, they don't really pull buyers to certain shops/vendors so... how can this work ? And I suppose I finally got my answer. Although I am mad I hadn't pushed the issue further since I do have a degree in computer science so... hurts my bones.
@@Neuroszima Don't put too much trust into him either. Sure, look at the evidence he presents and feel free to make a judgement based on it. Feel free to support him if you support his work. But don't think for a second that he is above scrutiny himself. He might be clean, he might not be. But never fool yourself into thinking that he can always be trusted. If for no other reason than because he might unintentionally end up spinning a false narrative on one of his stories.
Rejecting a sponsorship because you don't know how they make money is a really great mindset to have
If any sponsors are listening, I'll gladly take anything, and the more you give me, the less I'll wonder where you got it from.
Ahem... Hawk Tuah Coin as the latest example
2025 looking good
@@gfixler
- *"and the more you give me, the less I'll wonder where you got it from."*
You mean until money starts disappearing from your bank account. Thats why its called a scam.
Should be common sense tbh. smh
That one lawyer in Bee Movie:
LMAO THIS NEEDS MORE LIKES
true
The People v. Big Honey
He's more like Ken, I think.
The lawyer was right.
Forget fine wine, this aged like Egyptian honey.
Ha!
Haha, awesome analogy! 😂
I sometimes also like to reference Ancient Egyptian Honey, also. . . good pun!
I was gonna say "aged like the finest Sumerian honey wine" but then I realized honey wine is just mead.
I see what you did there, and I 100% approve. That's some god-tier punnery.
It had to be SO satisfying when he realized he 100% correct.
I know he posted on Twitter, but just that 'jump up from the chair, fists pumped, screaming "I freakin' KNEW IT!' loud enough to alarm the neighbors. _Guttural_ levels of "I told you so" satisfaction.
Holy crap Lois, i freaking knew it
Read those in his voice...
_"If it's free, then you're the product."_
_- Some dude on the internet_
It was me everyone, I’m the “some dude on the internet”
I think I heard Fredrik Knudsen say that in a SaltyDKDan chess video.
@@Mariodash23I think pirate software said it a few times as well
Funnily enough, this was the slogan of extremist femnist groups in Spain when talking about how clubs and bars let women in free but asked for money to men
@@xiiir838 Brilliant tbh
This needs an animation of a suspicious little man freaking out over a jar of honey.
Oh my gosh yes😭
I might make this
@alittlebitd3addo itttt
PLEASE 🥺
Just leaving a comment in case someone makes one 😂
"They called me a madman"
- Market Plier
"A man mad call me they did"
- Machete Piler
I ont get it
@@hie_hie_in_da_place If you're being serious, it's a Thanos quote, and his name is Mark Applier, so... 🤔
mark the plier
Market Plier: "Fine, I'll do it myself."
I like how Mark fully admitted that he MIGHT be wrong, as he himself confessed he was basing his feeling on very little, but hey, his gut feeling panned out.
....i mean it's just common sense. His questions are valid
That’s the thing I like the most about this.
@@BhBc8f8yeah I think if TH-cam is promoting sponsors like this it’s safe to say it’s a scam. Never trusted Honey but I also didn’t really care. Pie is also giving me hard scam vibes bc why is TH-cam advertising an Adblock after going to war against all Adblocks a few months ago lol
Very little? A person or company making money from thin air is all but little, that's literally red flag 101
Then Mark reposted this clip on Twitter with him saying "I KNEW IT"
He knows
He knew it.
Ngl
I want a short video where he just takes a spoonful of honey, eats it, looks at the camera saying "yeeeah" and then leaves (with nothing happening for a few seconds before the video ends)
He has to feel so vindicated lol
I love that people keep dead-naming twitter lmao. Eff off Elon.
Other youtubers: "Hush, dont bite the hand that feeds"
Mark: *"I never ate"*
Put honey is it feeling. It's the parasite draining even their bank account
The real bite of '87 was the one made on the hand that feeds.
Person: "He never ate?!"
Markfans: "Yes, but yet, he is cooking.
best part is honey steals from creator codes so the hand didn't even end up feeding them
🔥📜🖋️🔥
in some circumstances in life the "where this money is coming from?" question can save you life!
You're probably not going to know which one, either. Asking that question of everything, so routine it's not even thinking, is not the easiest way to live in these days. Nor does it paint a pretty picture of the world. Doing the hard thing is often the right thing, and even if you dismiss the risk to yourself of not constantly asking who benefits and who suffers I kind of prefer thoughtlessly getting blood on my hands even if it's someone else's.
@@cyborgninjamonkey Jesus, that's convoluted.
Yeah, what this guy is saying:
Knowledge is power, and you can use that power against yourself. He'd rather have the blissfulness of ignorance than know the hard things to swallow.
@@soupcangaming662 What? Is that how you interpreted my reply?
Cyborg, please explain, we r dumb
@@nabajitdas7559 I'm agreeing with the OP that there are times asking where money is coming from can save your life.
That always asking where money is coming from by instinct is hard and makes a lot of things look grim.
That I think it's worth it anyway, even if it doesn't save your life because being hyperaware of where money/resources come from and similar things lets you avoid contributing to things that are fucking over *someone*.
Sorry for the sentence structure before, no idea what happened to my brain on that one. Hopefully it makes sense now.
Im glad Mark was at least honest and upfront about the scam even when he didnt have much information about it. Unlike Linus Tech Tips that swept it under the rug and never took any steps to notify their audience about the known shady practices.
Tbf all LTT knew was that Honey was stealing money from influencers.
Which in a capitalistic POV, something that viewers *shouldn't* care about, else nobody would run an adblocker to ensure creators get a few extra bucks.
Also, something is weird. Honey made paid deals to *prevent* found coupons to show up with the shops who paid Honey. *That's* scamming the end user.
And yet... the backlash is all about how they stole the money from content creators. I'm happy the word is getting out but... why? Since when people care about TH-camrs signing with sponsors?
I feel the drama has been pushed artificially, but I have no idea who or why.
@laplongejunior I understand the confusion. My initial thoughts were the same. Then I learned that Honey was sniping referrals from Creators that weren't pushing thier product. For example, let's say a channel advertises Vessi shoes and is paid by Vessi by referral links. If Honey pops up while you are checking out, Honey then snipes the referral bonus from the creator and the creator gets nothing for advertising. THAT is the part that gets me frustrated. I was trying to support my favorite creator by buying something I was interested in. The creator drove the sale, and Honey stole the profits. That's where the frustration comes from I think
I'm pretty sure LTT made more than enough income even with the Honey loss. Maybe the sponsorhip made even more money than the loss. Besides, Honey probably hurt the competition more than him, so he didnt bothered.
@@laplongejunior watch the legal eagle video.
Not the first time LTT has been shit. Won't be the last.
I love that a single advertisement pop up sent him on this awesome prophetical rant.
👽
I've seen a vision ahh rant
It's the ADHD
the oracle of delphi contacted him
me when i see ads
This is why Mark has been respected for over a decade. He actually asks questions instead of just taking every deal
I've never seen Mark doing a deal too. But maybe I just missed it
Yeah and his gut was so right
no wonder he's disappeared and irrelevant now.
@@hideo6449 He's done a few.
The immediate sponsorships that come to mind are Best Fiends, AFK Arena and Dislyte.
He's also joked that "I need sponsorships, I will completely sell out, just give me a sponsor," but that's mainly due to his food review arc where he got fucked by DelMonte, Takis and Sour Patch Kids. We still remember when DelMonte tried to thank him for making a video by sending a small bulk crate of cans, and he was just like... no. 😂
But also he's never even sold out to the company he is sponsored by. The games above, he made the ads to his direction, and was worried that they would think it was too weird and cancel the ad sponsorship. And apparently it worked, because it's the same company that made AFK Arena and later Dislyte, so he must've won them over, at least. 😅
-🪼/🖊
@@noob.168 Having a backbone is worth infinitely more.
This sounds like a Bioshock tape you find near a wall with a message written in blood near it
Lol under rated comment
Great comment
Written in honey
If I saw "I DONT FUGGIN TRUST HONEY!! THERE IS SOME SHADY SHIT GOIN ON" written in blood on my wall, I'd be going insane
Dude yes LOL
I wanna go play Bioshock now
1:24 Everytime I watched this clip... His movement is really pixar / disney face-like lmao
LMAO TRUE
Somebody please animate this, and lmk when you do 😂
HIs speech too
Mark always cooks but is too humble to admit he’s a chef
I except nothing less from a man with 5 ovens
This sentence is mine now
hes a man with 5 ovens
I am aan who owns FIVE ovens!
He once was the chef but we know how that went
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It's simple pattern recognition. Once you learn this, you never forget it and you start seeing scams everywhere and most of the time your gut instinct is correct.
Stop noticing! Noooo
It's an old age adage... I gave up on people and can't spend my time explaining to people who fall on ads so easily. I pretty much felt like Markiplier as soon as I learned about it. Specially when it comes to brands that push deals with most, if not all creators. 😂
@@grigori7834 I can't turn it off. It sucks because I'd probably be a happier person if I were a BP'd mong like most people.
Its why tourists get scammed more often than the locals. Even something as basic as homeless people westerners in say Croatia will see beggars and think "oh the poor guys need our help" everyone thats been for a while will recognize its the same exact groups with their own handlers and everything
It's basic accounting too
Bro is so humble he underestimated his own prediction. It took 4 years
it taking longer to happen would make it an overestimation though. he guessed it would take only two years for it to come out, but it took longer.
@@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYouUnderestimated, overestimates require it to have been something like 6+ years it's the same logic as when someone overestimates or underestimates the value of something
@@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYou his estimation of the length of time until the scam was revealed was under the actual time. That's an underestimation
@@JaymzShikari I believe in the context of being humble here, it’s considered an overestimation since it took longer than he expected for the scam to be revealed. Overestimating here implies expecting something to happen greater precision or speed than it actually does.
@@YouLikeKrabbyPattiesDontYouif you believe that others are as adept as you are, you assume they will catch on quickly. this is an underestimation of your own intelligence.
"Where is all the money coming from?" is a simplistic and genius quote
“WAS THAT THE HONEY SCAM OF 24?”
holey moley 745 in 8 hours thanks people
the great honey conspiracy
What did honey do?
@@thedudeofdud688 Scam people
@@thedudeofdud688for just one they steal from the youtubers even the ones they sponsor like the affiliate links
And just like that, the tinfoil hat looks a little less foiled.
the difference between a "conspiracy theory" and a fact is about 6 months. Never trust anyone calling you a conspiracy theorist.
the tin foil just needed a little sanding to show the shine under the foils 💀
That's a detective hat dude. Not tinfoil.
The difference between a conspiracy theory and reality is 6 months. In this case, 4 years.
Conspiracies are just future truths.
Flashback to when TH-cam had banner ads in the videos
Lol, Ive had premium for song long I didnt know they got removed
i would rather the banner ads over the current format tbh
@@aliendxdethey removed it because smaller displays struggle to close to ad. Even when exited from the video.
thankfully my adblocker is going strong for years now
I'd prefer those over the video getting stopped to force us to watch an ad TBH
"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."
Markiplier
truer words have never been spoken
Markiplier is one smart cookieplier.
I vouch for that ..
Sup crispy toast 😎
i see what you did there 🍪
He's wrong on most things but right about this one
I'm not being a wise ass when I say this. I do like mark as a person, but this doesn't make him smart. It just means he has common sense, something that alot of people seem to lack???
He even called out the DNA scam too, in this. What a mad lad.
I'm out of the loop, what's the DNA scam?
@@tpfoxCastro
I don't know if OP is talking about a specific scam, but right off the top of my head I know a lot of DNA companies will turn around and just sell the information they get from you.
@@tpfoxCastro They use your DNA to make clones of you and sell their organs for rich folk. 😭
23andMe is looking more and more like it's going out of business. There are major concerns that it will sell its DNA database to 3rd parties as it's clause notes possession of DNA findings when using their service.
It was always an obvious scam, stupid people just refuse to believe they're wrong and call people smarter than them "conspiracy theorists" so they have an excuse to plug their ears and ignore them
1:34 "They should be LOOOOSING money." That delivery got me, lol
Just like MLM and also Gambling 😂
a FOOOLISH samurai warrior...
Very Ben Stiller 😂
The way he stretches the word out reminds me of how Ren talks
read this as he said it lmao
"if i dissapear in the next few days, it's honey"😭😭😭
If it sounds too good to be true then it probably is.
just like the classic Idiom "if you're not paying for the product, you are the product"
Not too good to be true. It's just being managed by the wrong people. Make it an open source, nonprofit thing.
It saves me money, why should I care if they get a cut?
Just like where a girl compliments you or ogles you
Something's fishy
It is right now at 669 likes, I wanted to like but I can't destroy this beauty
I just love how unhinged this clip is, yet right on the money, 4 years later
Right on the money you could be saving* with honey!
*saving money from the hands of the creators who deserve it.
It's not him that is unhinged, but the honey scam that was truely unhinged. People just like to shoot the messenger
Don't you mean right on the honey?
Wait 2020 was 4 years ago WHAT
@@peanutbutterrr1 no shit sherlock, that's how years work
This is why I like Markiplier, he’s not just funny, he’s an honest guy with a good intuition and he genuinely seems to care about other people.
Now I understand why he's one of the most liked (and well payed) youtubers
apparently he cried when he hit a certain subscriber count because he realised he'd never get to personally know all of his fans, and they had become just a number. I trust mark alot
I really really hope he isn’t exposed as some terrible person, id probably just give up on TH-cam at that point
@@connorh2215same! Mark (and Jacksepticeye, 8 bit Ryan and a couple more guys) but especially Mark I would not be able to handle.
Though knowing Mark and the people he hangs out with (Bob and Wade) and having listened to Distractable - I hope my intuition is right and that he is OK. He's good in my book. But having watched him for over 10 years - parasocial relationship is very real here.
@@connorh2215man I hate the fact that keeps happening
I am super glad that Markiplier spoke out about his concerns regarding honey. and I love the fact that he says it is a gut feeling cause I had the same feeling like something wasn't adding up. I remember searching up honey after a bunch of youtubers talked about it but the feeling I got screamed at me to not install it at all. trusting your gut.
Mark's out here just expressing the natural skepticism that we all should be feeling about everything
Yea, this seems to me more like healthy skepticism towards a service the business model of which you don't understand, rather than a prescient "prediction" of things to come.
Nah he knew. But he could not make claims without proof as he had none. But he knew damn well what's going on. I mean let's be real, look at him. He knows whats up. Many people knew whats up. But making these claims without proof can get you in serious trouble. So, playing the skeptical game is the best way to make people aware.
When I saw this I was like 'well duh'. Most people who understand how these businesses work, know it's a scam. And so does he. Money has to come from somewhere. If it isn't clearly visible how a company stays in business, ask yourself where the money comes from.
But unfortunately not everyone understands the many ways people do business. Plenty of people don't even know what an affiliate is, let alone how it works. And most people have no idea about the power of cookies. The Facebook pixel is quite infamous for this reason.
I find it hard to believe Mark didn't know their business model. He knew. But he's in the online marketing business himself. He knows business, he does business. He knows the tips and tricks. It's not hard to figure it out. If you know about these methods, it's not difficult to put one and one together. What Mark did here is a subtle attempt to make people aware and hopefully stay away from it.
Not really, that just makes u a paranoid
@elogyi5629 if you don't understand something you should question it till you do. Is what they are saying. People blindly trust too much these days and get scammed as a result.
@@elogyi5629 there's a big difference between paranoia and just turning your brain on for 5 seconds to think things through
1:00 For the first minute I thought he was talking about honey the food. Like he thinks the bees are plotting something.
nah we already know the bees are up to something they already made a whole movie about that
LMFAO, rewatching it with this in mind is really funny.
No, that's not a conspiracy. We know what the bees are up to.
Look all I’m saying is that we take care of them and they just make honey for free? Something’s going on in those beehives, and I for one welcome our new bee overlords
I mean, they technically shouldn't be able to fly sooooooo
I asked this too when Honey blew up and was like "how do they make money, this makes no sense" and someone was like "oh it's probably just data collection". Oh how the turns have tabled.
The data collection and selling is actually worse than the affiliate links...
shivaxi jumpscare
@@MetroAndroidbut everybody knows, that they sign up for data collection and selling. Nobody knew about the affiliate stealing.
Shivaxi is a music youtuber?
They’re usually working with companies to get commissions from sending people to websites, as well as user data. What you buy often isn’t worth the amount it’s sold for, even on sale they make money for these products. It’s not as bad as you think.
if you turn this into a mp3, you can seamlessly fit it in the bee movie
He couldn't see it. He could only see its shadow. Its shadow was shaped like the middle finger. He knew.
Lmao
Woa
oh gawd😂😂
i adore this comment
Masterful narration in just four sentences. 😂
"Nothing in life is free"
Thanks mark for your words of wisdom. I will carry these throughout my life
the most expensive things in life are free
@@dareal5401 if it's love you're saying, itvakso isn't free.
Sometimes it won't cost money but it sure cost effort
Also, what do you mean "expensive things are free"?
How does that make sense?
@@dareal5401 waht aer uyo talkgin abtou?
@@dareal5401 what, life itself?
Even death will cost your life
"Follow The Money".
The absolutely essential first premise for any analysis.
Kudos Markiplier.
Oy!
@@Jadty schitzo response
never follow the money
Funny hat people wont like it if you start noticing stuff 😅
Follow the honey.
3:08
"It's my DNA! It's mine! ᴵᵗ'ˢ ᵐᶦⁿᵉ."
Basic rule: If you aren't being charged for a service, YOU are the product. They'll be selling your data or worse. Every time.
worst part olmost every program that you can download either paying or free does it, just check their EULA always data collection even when they claim they dont
I think people were in fact expecting them to sell data about purchases and user behavior and such. A lot of people are willing to accept that to gain savings.
The triple whammy of probably selling user data, provably swooping in and covertly swapping affiliate links, being very cagey about the quality of the coupon codes on top of allegedly pressuring businesses to partner up using fake coupons to incite dissatisfaction for customers is still something.
good job saying stuff you heard in a video with 12 mio views in 7 days.
You're very likely still the product whether you're paying for the service or not.
Yet you're on TH-cam, a free service
He also nailed the DNA thing. 23 And Me had a huuuuge data leak and like everyone’s info was leaked and sold.
Giving that much information to a private company is wild. It was 100% orchestrated by 23&me themselves.
Mark has great foresight ngl
"" Leaked"" look into 23 and Me and the MRNA jabs. A lot of overlap in those sectors
@@Jeffrey-s9ntechnically if honey makes the discounts they show too high then companies won't work with them so it would lose them more and more money the higher the discounts are.
@@Jeffrey-s9n He didn't say that they lose money. He said that if they offered the service they claim to offer, they'd be losing money. Which is true. If you have a free extension that acts as an aggregator for coupons, they will lose money unless they're doing something to monetize their service.
Honey's actual business model is irrelevant, because he's saying that the promoted model doesn't work. If Honey were actually skimming and aggregating coupons to offer the best deal to users with no cost to the user, the company would be operating on net negative, even if they spent no money on advertising.
Behind the scenes, there was basically two ways for Honey to make money. Either their service doesn't do what it says and they pull the shit that they actually did; or, they sell user information to marketers. These are the only two options that would actually make Honey profitable, outside of a subscription model.
A subscription model probably would've been the best option for most consumers, too. Honey's platform is pretty lightweight, if they just operated a coupon skimmer and acted as a deals aggregator, they could've pretty easily managed a small staff with minimal overhead. But, it wouldn't have been as lucrative. Probably easier and more long-term as a product, though.
i feel like when we were all taught internet literacy 101 one of the first rules was 'don't download something to your desktop that promises to give you money' idk ://
Not everyone’s as smart as you and me
that's not what it was
midwit alert
Pretty much my thought process don't trust anything that gives you "free" or "easy" money
It doesn't give you money, though
😳😭🙀LOL!!!! RIGHT!!!!!!
2:00
> At the honey HQ
Like, beehives?
this aged like honey
Nah, it still aged like fine wine. It just happens to be of the mead variety.
@@S1RLANC3Honey ages better than wine. It doesn't really even age
@@S1RLANC3 I feel a woosh is needed, honey also ages like wine and in general holds way longer than the average wine.
@@S1RLANC3bruh honey's basically just another wine it never goes bad, thats what original poster probably meant
@@S1RLANC3
the point is that honey doesn't age, it never expires
"Ummmm okay dude... I'll put sugar in your tea instead, thats all you had to say..."
😂😂😂😂
"Sir this is a wendys"
Personally, I prefer sugar free, artificial sweeteners, MADE! BY! MEN! 😂
@@robbieking4070😂😂 I know it has a aftertaste but I like it
know I'm not the only one that read this in Zach Hadels voice
And this is why I never installed Honey. No one could answer the simple question of "How is this company making money?"
It's hilarious how so many people just thought that Honey could somehow afford millions in advertising, despite having no legitimate means of income.
I uninstalled after Honey only found me 10% discount and a quick Google search found 30% on a Bose headphone. Also even for a lot of sites there's 10% from signing up to marketing mails and it can't even find me simple codes like Welcome10
To be fair, many companies who aren’t scams have spent millions in advertising while not making money. Some previous examples being Uber, Moviepass, Lyft. It could have been a reasonable assumption that honey was burning through investor money to fund this insane advertising with a plan later down the line to monetize their user base.
Just food for thought.
@@josephstalin1741All of those services you listed are actually, believe it or not, making money on the basis of the service they provided. There’s a distinct difference in a business not making a solid profit margin or even going negative, but they still get your money when you use their service and you know where and when they take it.
Honey has literally, no legitimate form of income. Their whole business model is “we give free coupons!” Which is not a business model that will be getting you this level of investing or advertisement. I’m sorry but that is not a fair comparison.
@@josephstalin1741 As far as I'm concerned, Uber is effectively a scam.
this is why we love mark! hes not a brand shill that will advertise anything to his viewers so he can make a quick buck. he cares about the well being of his audience and hes not going to push something that he himself doesnt trust. and its been proven time and time again that his judgement is top notch ❤
Mark is seriously a lot smarter than people realise. I know he acts like a goofball many times, but have you seen him doing puzzles in certain games? He’s got a lot up there. I love it.
Tbf i thought everyone knew it was a scam. I guess the general public is just dumb
most celebrities, especially self made ones, are actually geniuses. they make it look easy and pretend to be just one of the boys but they tend toward savviness.
Mark is the smartest yet dumbest person on youtube
He’s an utter goofball, I love it. Very much reminds me of myself. Since I was practically raised on his videos I probably stole the personality from him
Mark is a savant
1:27 "Where's Honey getting the money?!?!" That would work so well on a T-shirt as a gag shirt.
It sounds like a seinfeld bit 😂
@@greerlee5748 fr It reminded me of the bee movie
Where it to your local gentlemen's club
no lol
A wise man once told me “If you can’t figure out what Product the company is selling, the Product is You, and they’re selling to someone else”
What about open source and Linux.
Theyre using free labor disguised as "open source contributions"@@X_Otman
@@X_Otman Those aren't selling anything. Open source isn't a business, they're essentially public projects that also don't push marketing because they don't actually care if anyone downloads or not.
@@X_Otmandepends if you download open source malware or just normal stuff
In this case Honey is stealing, which is worse
This guy always has been a very smart individual.
His timeline was off, but he was otherwise entirely correct.
Was it? Linus Tech Tips revealed Honey was a scam in 2022. If they were more loud about it, this should have happened in 2022.
Imagine if he said 2024
Well Linus did found out what's going on with honey in 2022, it just didn't gain any traction outside of the Linus tech tips forum, so in this case Mark is actually spot on
Linus didn't say anything about it in his forums or at all, some of his viewers or whoever did @@RadStorm04
and then right after, ltt jumped right into the same mess with a different company that does the same thing
"Somebody pick up that phone............CUZ I FUCKING CALLED IT"
~ Markiplier (2024)
Calm down Cooler... ;3
eyyyy @@cameronjadewallace
Sir Cooler he has been Le killed
a lot of people probably thought they just sell your online purchases data (which they probably also do) and don't care that much about advertisers knowing what they buy, but nobody thought they would actively scam the customers, the creators, and the shops at the same time
I mean I thought it was obvious to everyone that they were overwriting the affiliate links. All the free promo code websites make money that way.
@elementneon no, most people have no idea how that system works
Honestly, I think we all know that the only reason the whole Honey scam is such a big deal now is that the creators are the ones getting screwed.
@@elementneonit wasn't obvious. The general consensus was they were just getting a cut from the coupon and/or selling customer data.
@@olegebloek customers were getting screwed too. Coulda purchased the item with 10% discount now honey just hit you with a 5%
This is one of the reasons why all the OG TH-camrs are the best
I love it when humankind has a natural suspicion to something. You can’t quite put it into works or words, but it’s just natural to “I don’t trust this…” and it ends up being true.
Grok the caveman without that gut feeling became dinosaur food
@@masonlund8715hate to be that guy but the lineage of evolution that led to humans only split from chimpanzees ~7 million years ago, and dinosaurs were wiped out ~65 million years ago. What’s more likely is that the feeling would save you from a trap set by another tribe, or being killed by wolves
It is the limbic system, it doesn't talk much but acts a great deal
You can say mankind.
This, this is the moment markiplier turned into humankind.
This video needs a react from future Mark.
The FIRST video has a comment from him
The original from years ago has a recent comment from him.
He did a members stream for it, but somebody probably clipped it
@@Skenjinwhat's the title
and Asmongold too
“Where is honey getting the money from” That is literally the concept of the scam and this man just single handedly found out the biggest scam in youtube history.
Biggest scam ever? Calm down buddy that’s a reach. Yes this scam is big but there are documented bigger scams than this.
i expect no less from markiplier lol
?
@@malikkelly Considering how widespread honey sponsorships were across top TH-camrs of literally every possible genre, I don't think its a stretch to call this the biggest scam in TH-cam history.
@@DisastrousIntentionally Yeah also because of how much they paid huge influencers to promote their product that scammed the person promoting the product and the buyer.
It’s good not feeling alone when you overthink things and when you are right 😂
I love how at the beginning of the video markiplier is just doing a quick “okay guys hear me out here” and then it quickly devolves into rambling and insanity as he dives deeper into the honey rabbit hole
i love it fr, when you start to realize more and more while you're actually talking about something
the honey hole
Ever since Honey got exposed, Markiplier hasn't uploaded a video which coincidentally is like he said it would happen 3:23
Rip
Cuz he doesn't need to
like a madman
They got my boy Mark
daaamn
You KNOW every executive at Honey was shitting their pants when this came out.
He's not the only who thought this. Anyone with a functional brain that thought about it for more than a few seconds would have come to the same conclusion.
@logvoid Not everyone has a multi-million sub youtube channel and many (potentially obsessive?) fans
@@zaxtonhong3958 What has that got anything to do with this? xD
@logvoidyeah well that's the thing, most people didn't. And there wasn't any proof until a few days ago.
@logvoidexactly. I knew they were doing this when it first came out. Nothing really new if you’re aren’t a idiot
Thinking FOUR Years Ahead... Thank You Mark...
I don't even watch Markiplier, but the dude have won my respect just by watching this video.
Wow, you must be a boring person?
Friggin same
Markplier sempre teve algo muito bom com as adivinhação dele, ele é muito ético e gostoso ao mesmo tempo, bom d mais ter 1 exemplo bom no youtube
@@joaorobertomarquesgeraldin4422 calma aí maninho. Segura o horny.
Don’t care, he still cringe
This didn't just age like fine wine. This aged like Vincent Van Gogh's artpieces. He only got really famous after dying and his art is now worth millions.
Megalag and Markiplier should get on a podcast together.
Funny you say that considering that any purple he used had a red that fades significly faster then the blues under light. A few letters had people suspect this with the painting Irises for some time, and was tested in the pandemic where they found bromine in the paint, which is known to have a brown red hue. It unknown how many of his paintings have been effected by this.
@@darmorel549 😔
you fumbled this sentiment
thank you for editing it
wait, is bro implying that mark is gonna die soon and his content is gonna be worth millions?
“Nothing in life is free” words of wisdom right there used by my elderly folks.
The only free one is the charity work.
But obviously honey is company. To gain profits
"Nothing good* in life is free." There will always be a cost to good. That's not to say it's hard to be good; in fact, I'd say it's an innate feature most humans share that is often neglected. What that means is, you have to work to get good things... that is the cost. Good things don't appear out of thin air, and the ones that do often come with a negative consequence (another price to pay).
From what I understand, the phrase is sort of meant to mean that true goodness comes from fairness.
@@nomoretwitterhandles So, when are you paying back your parents?
@@wowalamoiz9489by becoming successful or living up to their dreams.
It's just neoliberalism
Mark is a real one, and real ones are rewarded with accurate gut feelings
Markiplier is Cassandra predicting the fall of Troy.
Nobody listens until it's too late.
th-cam.com/video/i6l8MFdTaPE/w-d-xo.html
@@divyanshaggarwal6292🤓
@@divyanshaggarwal6292 bro sent an entire youtube link when he could just say hes an idiot and incompetent in words
who
@@CrushedlilstarsCassandra is a psychic in Greek Mythology but is cursed so that no one believes her I’m pretty sure.
I'd always assumed it was 1 of 2 things
1. The "savings" they got customers was mostly because of their own affiliate codes but they just didnt disclose that
2. They were stealing user data of shopping habits and reselling it to less scrupulous individuals
its not technically stealing when you give it up freely for a couple of coupons
@oye6124 it's stealing if the users don't consent to it openly. the users agree to receive coupon codes for free, not in exchange for their personal data to be sold.
I used an app that I assumed acted similar to what you assumed. I gave up though. Too much of a hassle in using it.
Both? Both is good.
@@1senhartAll that, and more!
honey never made sense, a coupon clipping browser extension that spends millions on ad campaigns? that gets bought by paypal for 4 billion? i quit using honey years ago when i saw a video calling them out for their shady shit, but apparantly no one else at the time gave a shit.
What is the video that you saw?
I quit honey years ago when it never gave me any fucking functional coupons on any site I used, ever, not once did I ever get a coupon and saved money... by the 20th 'use this code' I was checked out the door.
Yeah, who was calling it out back then? Did they have any real evidence for them being evil (like the cookie stuff) or were they just suspecting things?
I mean I just assumed they stole your data like every other advertised service lol.
@@dojelnotmyrealname4018 Is that the controversy? I just assumed that was the case.
Is outnumbered and called crazy, but still sticks with his gut whether he’s right or wrong. This is why Markiplier is the GOAT.
I'm proud of him for trusting his gut and not just taking the easy money
1:28 he hit the nail right on the head here. Honey gets paid by corporations to give users false “best discounts” which mislead them from the actual best discounts.
Honey also gets Affiliate money for Last Click lead generation.
Naw I’m pretty sure they were hijacking referral links from creators
Bro's explaining it to people who already know
@@iceyspicey4802I didn't know🌚
@ that too!
But Honey's good for my sore throat?
It's BigHoney!
@@nairocamilo yeah it helps with my cough
you're being lied to by the Big Honey to make you buy more honey
real honey is good for a sore throat not walmart honey which isn't honey, they hide the ingredients facts on the back and tell you to call a number which is shady. but anyways it's like 90% corn syrup.
@@benginaldclocker2891 Ah yes, _Manuka honey._ It sounds gourmet, so laden with health benefits, so _exotic_ - very marketable, in fact. A rare kind of honey that bees can _only_ make by nesting in a tree endemic to New Zealand... that's the kind of thing a tourism board would latch onto for dear life like the barbs of a bee's stingers!
...but has anyone actually analyzed the stuff? Has anyone actually cracked open a bottle of what's being shipped out and checked for _any_ legitimacy to the claims?
Mark is genuinely such a cool person. Gotta admire his attention to details!
"Listen. I play stupid for a bit..."
"...But I'm not stupid..."
-Markiplier, playing Amogus
*The moment when your gut feeling and instincts is on point*
Too many sponsors target too many influencers. Where did all these TH-camr friendly "businesses" come from after avoiding them for so long?
@@chilomine839Good question. A number of these always felt rather sus...
0:52 Bless your heart for believing society would figure this out 2 years sooner than we did.
He was too smart for us
@@LeumazDnazor didnt he promote betterhelp?
Ohhhh shooot...@@likeyeeah
@@likeyeeahits tough because why would a company need youtube sponsorships unless its a little shady or useless
because most people they would be marketing to also use youtube...? it's literally normal marketing you dunce, you market to the audience that would want your product @@alexhartline9220
I always assumed as they applied the coupon code they were skimming a few pennies off the savings as a fee and making their money over millions of transactions, which frankly I would have been fine with. The reality was much more sinister
dumb people call it "prediction", but it's just deduction. That proves that Mark is more intelligent than most on youtube.
You sound like a nerd
In hindsight it should've seemed obvious that they were getting that sponsorship money from somewhere. But no one investigated where they were getting it from.
Well it's also the fact that Mark doesn't need the Honey sponsorship money (or is greedy enough to take it even though he doesn't need to)
Some of the youtubers that took Honey sponsorship, particularly ones well versed in tech (and not just techbros) most likely knew something was up with it but decided to advertise it anyway because that Honey money was too good to deny
Same deal with things like NordVPN really
@@Valstrax420 I (and probably a lot of people) assumed they were selling user data, which isn’t great but so is google and every other free service. Wild how much worse it turned out to be.
lmaoo shut the hell up, stop stroking your ego, this is a prediction you moron. I guarantee you had no issue with honey before all this drama coming out publicly.
0:15 "Okay, alright, guys, ialright, the, we're gonna, eh, stop" 😭
E
😭😭😭😭
Who said predicting the future has to be elegant?
Genuinely respect him for having morals and not accepting the sponsor cuz he felt like it was iffy
Didn't stop him from accepting that Yata savings one though.
@@CaptSoapy and BetterHelp
That music at the beginning really helps to set the mood.
whats the video because it looks and sounded really cool forthe 2 seconds i saw it
"Is that the Great Honey Conspiracy of '24?!"
"5 Nights at shopping Honey" (FNASH)
From 1:09 on, looks like there are Disney animators animating his face
😂😂😂😂😂
I don't see it
Oh my god 💀😭
he amped up his fluidity
Adhd ❤
(compliment btw)
Markiplier might look like just a rambling man in front of the camera but people tend to forget that this guy has good instincts. Remember, he is a business man.
He stands on bidness
Yeah, he's been around the block. Being on the internet for so long, especially the Big Stage of the internet, he's seen stuff go down. He knows a thing or two because he's seen a thing or two; and, you know the saying: History doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
not only that people seem to not notice how intelligent this man is lol hes definitely in the 130-145 iq range
"Nobody gives you anything for free." that's all, period.
I love how animated his face is, like a cute cartoon character.
Jacksepticeyes predicted Mr. Beast Drama,
Markiplier predicted Honey Scam,
if Pewdiepie predict something happened in the future and its true, we should listen to the holy trinity of youtuber legends...
edit : somebody in the reply said that Pewdiepie predicted the demise of Ryan's Toy review channel.i tried to reply but somehow youtube blocked my responses. i was trying to say, "no way" and we finally came full circle.
pewds predicts the ryan toys review situations
@@hazqer1749 omg, no wayy...
@@hazqer1749 no way, its finally come full circle...
Yep he said earlier few years back abt Ryan's toys and how it was a bit creepy, about the adults managing the whole thing. Wouldn't be surprised if there was some stuff going on behind
Always trust experience over popularity. They've been in the game pretty much since the beginning of the TH-cam boom
I really am hoping Markiplier never does anything bad...
Hes too nice and good hearted to me for me to handle some drama happening
Have faith,, there’s still good people in the world :,)
He killed an ant only to see it's comrades pick the body like trash
There was this one fan that he refused to give an autograph because he was on a wheel chair. But that was just one incident.
@@OperatorKevlar What ???
@@OperatorKevlar That was never the reason he refused stop spread misinformation💀
Even as a child the sheer ridiculous amount of advertisement they were putting out after their company came out of nowhere
You forgot to finish your sentence.
@CryWillus how goofy are you as a 14yr old youtube use, to care about *cough* GRAMMAR AND PUNCTUATION ON TH-cam? I wanna call you so many names but I'm having a good day. Grow up and find real priorities
@@CryWillus how goofy are you to care about grammar and punctuation on youtube??? How old are you??? You have a 14 yr old account what priorities you got in life?? None it seems
Wait what does being a child have to do with it? Like you or someone else?
so i assume you knew exactly what's wrong years ago and not just saying that now after them getting exposed right ?
Alongside him predicting the scandal, his delivery is so funny that this video is comedy gold 😂
His facial expressions and body language makes it so much better
I don’t know much about this MarkPlayer guy, but I definitely have to agree he’s soooo expressive and has a cool voice he seems like a cool genuine person and I bet he could be an amazing actor!!
especially when you watch it with the volume off 😂 it’s delightful
Especially when he rubbed his finger under his nose
"If the product is free, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT"
Yes this
TH-cam, fb, twitter etc. ads all over these platforms. But I got premium so I don’t get any ads here🥳
It would have been fine if they simply collected user data for shopping habits or whatever, that's what everyone probably assumed from the start anyways. The scam was that they actively HID coupon codes from you, doing literally the opposite of what they said they did. That's not a "you're the product" situation, that's just a scam.
@@TheMarkoSeke and stealing affiliate links, aka the pay the youtubers were supposed to be getting from their referrals went to Honey instead.
me playing warframe after i just spent 50 bucks on virtual coins for pretty pixels: yeah
i also never trusted honey, i would see ads from youtubers saying to download it and i tempted, but then i was like “no … this feels wrong ..” and didn’t . glad to know i was right .
After many years we learn to recognize scams. Well, some of us do.
I have always just skipped in-video ads but once I was forced to listen to a Honey ad while cooking and it left me baffled for an entire afternoon.
So... they supposedly don't collect your data, they don't run ads, they don't really pull buyers to certain shops/vendors so... how can this work ?
And I suppose I finally got my answer.
Although I am mad I hadn't pushed the issue further since I do have a degree in computer science so... hurts my bones.
Same, I saw all those ads but it seemed fishy somehow, so I never bothered.
Same
dudes swear they geniuses
Markiplier is four years ahead!
this is the first markiplier video i've ever seen in my life and i love it sm
i really was missing out
So you really need to watch all of his videos They’re all really good.
I loved him and Pewds playing To The Moon back in the day!
Same
this isnt my first, but certainly not my hundreds. just watched it only if his clips find me
Damn straight, I highly recommend the vids that have his buddies Bob and Wade.
His gut is 100% correct
God mark is such a grounded and down to earth guy.
He’s so genuine and has so much integrity he can sniff out bullshit from a parsec away
He's a bloodhound for bullshit, a bullshithound if you will
Not at all. The only one person I trust on exposing frauds is Coffezilla
@@NeuroszimaHow does it feel to be a blind consumer?
@@Neuroszima Don't put too much trust into him either. Sure, look at the evidence he presents and feel free to make a judgement based on it. Feel free to support him if you support his work. But don't think for a second that he is above scrutiny himself. He might be clean, he might not be. But never fool yourself into thinking that he can always be trusted. If for no other reason than because he might unintentionally end up spinning a false narrative on one of his stories.
@@rendomstranger8698 Yep, in short, trust nobody on the internet
I did too!!!! I couldn’t clearly see how they were making so much money while getting huge ad deals and it set off soooooo many alarms