Thanks for the video. I already took the SAS valve and the canister out but I am going to get the Rottweiler kit #2. Why are you plugging the oxygen sensor out?
Oxygen sensor is used by the ECU to adjust fuel mix and (as per programming by OEM) to make it pass Euro emissions regulations. Which in turn makes it jerky in the lower gears. In essence they do nothing when you have no catalytic converter or custom exhaust. And no it does not worsen fuel efficiency, it actually remains unchanged, right hand dependent :-) - Also: Less wires around engine, less to break. You make notice the wire on the rear pipe tends to wander out of its sleeving after a while.
Thanks. I know the jerky feeling but after the last service it went away, I don't know what they did. I have a prepaid maintenance, I agree, the kits help to clean up the engine and looks better, beside the space you get from the canister. I know what the sensors do and the emission is not a concern "in this case". I just don't know who it will affect the combustion ratio since my has the oem exhaust with the catalyst converter. Should I take it out?
If you don't feel comfortable with the thought then leave it be. Or at least until your maintenance contract expires. As per dealer: Leaving the bike to idle for 15 minutes will allow the ECU to calibrate itself with new modifications. Sounds a bit too sci fi, but it may work, though a dyno run may be more effective.
I’m going to remove the cat on my 1290SA-R. Do you think that with the O2 sensor removal kit it’s enough? Or Should I install an Akrapovic map or something like this? I have heard you can update the supeduke akrapovic map,
Eduardo Utrera there is a akra map available from KTM. Cat removal is another step altogether. Leave the o2 sensors in and go for a ecu tune option such as rapid bike or powercomander. You will get better results.
Not silly at all. The SAS system is there to get the bike past the emission tests, it ensures that it runs lean in the first gears, basically commuting in the city, which makes the bike jerky. In essence if you are running an aftermarket exhaust, removed the cat or modified the engine in any way from OEM, then the SAS is just dead weight as its original settings are worthless.
Patrick Flinner Think you will find that's in correct, Sas takes fumes from the tank, and burns them off through engine rather than just vent off in to the atmosphere, The fuelling mapping takes care of emissions regs
Hello, I have uninstalled SAS. can I save the Lambda Sensor in place? or should it also be removed after SAS is removed? I just don’t have anything to turn off Lambda senses, so I wanted to know if it’s possible to save it in place.
Prior to removal, did you find you bike made some strange noises from the air box, almost sounding like it was loose and rattling around..... Did the removal of the sas stop these weird noises
No. If you are hearing these noises then I would pull the tank off and examine the airbox. Immediately. It could be one of the bolts has loosened/stripped iteself or perhaps one of the air snorkels is loose.
Thank you for this install video... going to look at a 2015 to purchase this week
Voy a intentar traducirlo para poder hacerlo en mi moto. Muy buen video!
Saludos desde Argentina!
Gracias. Si tienes dudas, solo pregunta.
Patrick Flinner seguramente lo haré! Gracias 👍
On my list of things to do, thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video. I already took the SAS valve and the canister out but I am going to get the Rottweiler kit #2. Why are you plugging the oxygen sensor out?
Oxygen sensor is used by the ECU to adjust fuel mix and (as per programming by OEM) to make it pass Euro emissions regulations. Which in turn makes it jerky in the lower gears. In essence they do nothing when you have no catalytic converter or custom exhaust. And no it does not worsen fuel efficiency, it actually remains unchanged, right hand dependent :-) - Also: Less wires around engine, less to break. You make notice the wire on the rear pipe tends to wander out of its sleeving after a while.
Thanks. I know the jerky feeling but after the last service it went away, I don't know what they did. I have a prepaid maintenance, I agree, the kits help to clean up the engine and looks better, beside the space you get from the canister. I know what the sensors do and the emission is not a concern "in this case". I just don't know who it will affect the combustion ratio since my has the oem exhaust with the catalyst converter. Should I take it out?
If you don't feel comfortable with the thought then leave it be. Or at least until your maintenance contract expires.
As per dealer: Leaving the bike to idle for 15 minutes will allow the ECU to calibrate itself with new modifications. Sounds a bit too sci fi, but it may work, though a dyno run may be more effective.
good job :D
Do you know what resistor must be for the plug ?
Unfortunately no. it was heatshrinked
Beer at a time haha. Good vid thanks.
I’m going to remove the cat on my 1290SA-R. Do you think that with the O2 sensor removal kit it’s enough? Or Should I install an Akrapovic map or something like this? I have heard you can update the supeduke akrapovic map,
Eduardo Utrera there is a akra map available from KTM. Cat removal is another step altogether. Leave the o2 sensors in and go for a ecu tune option such as rapid bike or powercomander. You will get better results.
Hey mate sorry for the silly question but what's the purpose of doing this?
Not silly at all.
The SAS system is there to get the bike past the emission tests, it ensures that it runs lean in the first gears, basically commuting in the city, which makes the bike jerky.
In essence if you are running an aftermarket exhaust, removed the cat or modified the engine in any way from OEM, then the SAS is just dead weight as its original settings are worthless.
Patrick Flinner
Think you will find that's in correct,
Sas takes fumes from the tank, and burns them off through engine rather than just vent off in to the atmosphere,
The fuelling mapping takes care of emissions regs
Why you take it off
Weight reduction, cleaner intake air, motor modification, less cabling around engine, planet killing, ...
@@PatrickFlinner its there for cleaner exhoust, no point take off
@@PatrickFlinner its like trowing trach out from car , car gets clean but not nature
@@lasseeneroth8189 Rest assured that all removed equipment was responsibly recycled via burial in the local playground.
Hello sir, could you send me the email address that I can buy these set for install to my Ktm please? Thank you. Very good video really.
Thank you, but buy them yourself from the manufacturers website or try rottweilerperformance .com
@@PatrickFlinner Yes I'll do. Thanks
Hello, I have uninstalled SAS. can I save the Lambda Sensor in place? or should it also be removed after SAS is removed? I just don’t have anything to turn off Lambda senses, so I wanted to know if it’s possible to save it in place.
You can leave it
Prior to removal, did you find you bike made some strange noises from the air box, almost sounding like it was loose and rattling around.....
Did the removal of the sas stop these weird noises
No. If you are hearing these noises then I would pull the tank off and examine the airbox. Immediately.
It could be one of the bolts has loosened/stripped iteself or perhaps one of the air snorkels is loose.