Thank you. I did miss the fact that currently as of release they are giving the essential package with the purchase of an XPedition bike which is the cushions and foot rests because I didn’t know!
You are the best ever, anywhere. Complete analysis and fun to watch and listen to. I mean, what else is there. Super job. And Thank You for your time and effort
@@JeremiahMcintosh How do you find the geometry in terms of the how far forward the seat is compared to the pedals? I had the XP 2. 0 Step Thru and found the seat too far forward which made you feel like you were on a Unicycle with the pedals right under your seat. Even with the seat all the way back & raised, my thighs and knees were cramped I I felt a lay back seat post would be needed. Pedaling didn't feel natural in this position and required more effort and caused more strain. (5ft9, 185lb, 40 year old rider) I couldn't get good leg extension with seat raised and moved to the rear. My other ebikes felt more natural in terms of relationship between pedals and seat. I felt the folding nature of the XP 2.0 caused them to have the seat post angle too verticle above the pedals instead of further back.
Another great review by Jerimiah. He really doesn't leave anything out. I bought my black 2.0 lectric based on his reviews and dropped him a PM about it which he was kind enough to take the time to respond to. Love the bike. Excellent reviews from a person you can trust. Thanks again for the great work!
Yep, I agree. A 750 watt motor and the 24 amp controller on the XP 3.0 would be the sweet spot. I dont like seeing comparable folding bikes beat the Lectric in hill climbs. They are too good of a company for that!
Lectric is really stepping up! I see why so many people buy them!! And you are the best reviewer out there!! I hope Lectric realizes your talents! You deserve a raise in your commission! 👍🏻😎
looking at the expedition, with the Plus One seat, wife would love it when I'm not hauling groceries. Finally retired, ready for a little help up the hills...
I would like full throttle power at all pedal assist levels. I like the throttle for getting me off to a quick start, for example, in traffic when a car is riding up my rear Other than that, looks like a great bike! Honestly this style bike wasnt even on my radar until tonight. But could be very useful!
You're awesome Jeremiah, I loved your video. I also love this bike because I was hoping that Lectric would eventually use a 750w motor too. I presently weigh 360 lbs and definitely this or the beautiful Lectric Trike are my vehicles of choice! God bless!!
How I got started was I just bought an ebike and just started making informational videos about it. It Does take a lot of Time an effort tho especially in the beginning.
I recently purchased the Xpedition. It's my first E-bike. I had many questions about the performance and maintenance and a rep at Lectric recommended your channel. Very informative video.
Wow, that is a great value..The fact that you can go 20 mph in pedal assist one, and draw only 4 amps, should allow for a massive range, with throttle only, the software is the most impressive aspect of this bike and I'm certain it will be copied by other manufacturers...That is really a game changer..On all other bikes, to get the best range, you would need to go very slow..With good hydraulic brakes and only weighing 61 pounds, and all the add ons, it's an engineering master piece...This may be the perfect platform for my solar bike..I have some great ideas for this bike..
Very informative....interesting...convinced me to buy..will use on Dauphin Island Alabama to haul tackle bag and rods to to fish at different spots on the Island..Thanks
My XPedition arrived a few days ago - very impressed so far. 👍 Used your link, plus I bought a lot of accessories (Orbitor, etc.) Do you get a commission on that stuff, too? (Just curious). I hope so -you've earned it! Great reviews and thorough. Keep up the excellent work! 🙂
Thank you for the support and glad you are enjoying it! If you used my link when buying the accessories also then yes I should get the commission. Thank you again and enjoy!
i wouldn't mind the upgraded motor and controller on my 2.0, but yeah imo the next (4.0) should use the better motor and controller, if possible. but i am unsure if the original 2.0 battery could handle the higher output, as the controller in it only pulls 18 amps on the screen. what i will miss is the ability to pull full power from the throttle, i still would like to have full throttle control even in pas 0, as i remember that was a feature on one of your other bikes. having the ability to make changes like this in the controller would be great, having more options is never a bad thing imo. you can always choose to not use them. but i guess there is always the inclusion of said options costs $, and if you aren't going to use them, why pay for them? but a better controller would still be a plus imo.
The xp 3.0 & the xp trike would be great to see with the new motor & controller I live in a river valley with some very steep hills to leave the area. Or a very long ride out of the way
How do you find the geometry in terms of the how far forward the seat is compared to the pedals? I had the XP 2. 0 Step Thru and found the seat too far forward which made you feel like you were on a Unicycle with the pedals right under your seat. Even with the seat all the way back, my thighs and knees were cramped I I felt a lay back seat post would be needed. Pedaling didn't feel natural in this position and required more effort and caused more strain. (5ft9, 185lb, 40 year old rider) I couldn't get good leg extension with seat raised and moved to the rear. My other ebikes felt more natural in terms of relationship between pedals and seat. I felt the folding nature of the XP 2.0 caused them to have the seat post angle too verticle above the pedals instead of further back.
Looks like it could use a suspension seat post. That chain is crazy long, I bet you'd have to join 2 chains together. Interesting bike It would have been nice to see a suspension fork on it. I actually wonder if its even possible to put a suspension fork on it, because the stance of the bike would change, kickstand probably wouldnt touch the ground anymore, etc.
You can't put front suspension on a bike that can carry 450lbs. It works great at first but unless it's a really good high quality suspension $$$, it won't last long with that much weight.
We’ll see how the suspension forks on the Aventon Abound and AiPAS A6 (this looks and has very similar performance specs as the XPedition) do, as they have similar or identical total weight capacity ratings.
Hello. Many R.V. parks now ban golf carts. I am in the market for an E bike that can pull a pedicab trailer to/from R.V. park to the beach and back. (10 miles one way ) I will take the bike on hard/semi soft sand. Do you think the Lectric Xpediton can get the job done?
really nice bike. i would only change couple of things: colour, in my opinion it would look much better if it was black and front suspension. i have tried cargo bikes without front suspension and it feels much better when it has front suspension. also, one more: slightly lower seat height so it would make it easier to ride with a suspension seat post
Putting that motor in their 3.0 would be the best upgrade ever! Would definitely make me want to purchase one of their e bikes. Only reason I don’t want this xpedition is because it doesn’t fold and is a little too long to make it up my staircase to my apartment. The current motors in the 3.0 is just a little underpowered for me and I’m just going to hold off on buying an e bike until then.
Great video and field test! Would those tires be slick on a wet trail or grass compared to knobby tires? Could you give me the length in inches of that eBike (tip to tip) so I can see if the tires would hide my RV tail lights or license plate when it would be on our Hollywood rack? I presently have a Lectric XP Ver. 1.0.
I always love your reviews. This lectric Expedition cargo bike is amazing. Only if I can get my wife to ride my 2.0. I would buy this for $1699 with accessories.
How do you unlock? To make it little faster? I'm brand new to this. Lol. Like 3 days ago new.. Also I don't understand the 5 mode? Or when to use them. And what do these do?
Hey Jeremiah, really good and thorough review. Since this XPedition Cargo bike doesn't have any suspension, could you tell me what is the diameter of the lower portion of the telescpic seat post? I have replaced the seat on a couple of my e-bikes with the Kinekt Suspension Seat Post and it has been just about one of the best things that I ever did to the bikes. It makes the ride so much more smooth and comfortable! I don't know if you have tried one of the Kinekt Suspension Seat Posts, but if you have, could you compare that to one of the Lectric or other brand suspension seat posts that you have tried? I'd say that the only negative thing about the Kinekt Suspension Seat Post is the price, so I'm contemplating if I might want to go with the Lectric or other brand which would be a fair bit less expensive. I'm not really sure what size seat post shim or what length and diameter seat post I would need to purchase as well when purchasing the Kinekt, Lectric or other brand and was wondering if you know what exactly I would need to replace the seat on the XPedition Cargo Bike to a suspension seat post? Thanks again for the really great and thorough review of the XPedition, I really enjoyed it as well as all of the other reviews that you have put out.
There is a link in the description of the video for the correct shim. I can’t remember off the top of my head the size but if you don’t find it let me know.
Looks like you could put a big pet carrier on the back of that bike. I'm sure people will be doing stuff like pet carriers and big ice coolers. Go on a group bike ride and you could carry the chairs, blanket, food and drinks, in a massive cooler on back of that bike😂
Lectric bikes and trikes has made this customer very happy to own these units. I have a 3.0 and my wife a trike (due to balance issues). Lectric goes out of their way to please their customers. You DO NOT find companies like this one very often, they are absolutely great and I can't express my appreciation enough for their customer support. My friends wanted me to buy other brands and now they are regretting their decisions not to go with Lectric.
BIKE IS ON IT'S WAY!!! SO EXCITED. But here's the thing. I'm wanting to order a suspension seat post for my new expedition but not sure of size. Can I order the one in your description?? Another thing, I want the CLOUD 9 SEAT. But the Amazon site your sending us to says, SOLD OUT!! I can buy the seat off another seller but you won't get the credit. I also plan to buy the side mirrors like TODAY!! YOUR SAYING THE ONES IN YOUR DESCRIPTION BELOE WILL FIT THIS BIKE?? Reason I'm asking is. I notice you have the list of favorite accessories in almost every video ive watch on lectric bikes. I dont want to buy something that wont fit this bike, expedition. Here's what I'm wanting like NOW!! MIRRORS, FRONT BASKET, CLOUD 9 SEAT & SUSPENSION SEAT POST. I ALREADY BOUGHT THE BIKE, X2 SEAT PADS & SEAT OFF YOUR SITE. I'm so new to this. My husband said, get what you want but make sure what you get fits!!!! Thanks Jeremiah. I would love to see you get credit oppose to no one.
The post you would need is the one in the description (31.6mm) but you would also need the shim (31.6 to 34.9) also in the description for it to work with the expedition. My exact seat has been sold out for a while now but if you find it from another seller I’ll still get credit as long you went to amazon through my link. I’ll actually get credit for your entire order no matter what you decide to buy. Make sure you get the correct seat with the hole in the middle because they make a bunch of cloud 9 seats and the comfort is different on all of them. Thanks again for the support!
Excellent review, thanks Jeremiah! Lectric has been actually listening to these reviews (yours and many others), you can tell by the evolution of their product releases. So this bike review got me thinking - how cool would it be if they built this in a pedal platform for two peddlers?!? Hey Lectric… how about drawing up an XPedition built for two!!?? Imagine the distance and battery capacity efficiency with two sets of pedals?
Thanks for a great video Jeremiah! I have a couple of questions…1) The motor seems very loud on the video. Is it that loud when riding or is it amplified from the video. 2) If money wasn’t a factor, would you go with the 3.0 or the Xpedition. Thanks again!
Man that’s tough to answer because they are two totally different bikes and it depends what options fit your needs. Smaller foldable and more compact or more power , longer range and more cargo capacity with a shorter reach. Both great for different situations. The motor does seem to be pretty loud at times tho.
Love your videos, with the xp 3.0 break upgrade coming up, they are offing to upgrade to their pedal assist wattage regulation. Having tried it out on this bike, would you suggest that up grade for the 3.0? Or should I stick with it’s current peddle assist with it limiting me by speed?
Are they offering to sell it to you or send it for free? It really depends what you like better I don’t really mind either but it is nice to have full throttle power in the lower pas levels on the 3.0.
The email from lectric says “In addition to hydraulic brakes, we will offer to upgrade your XP 3.0 eBike's programming to the Lectric PWR™ system, providing you with intuitive power delivery and a smooth, natural take-off. Lectric PWR™ also provides a massive boost in the efficiency of your eBike, allowing for more range with a single charge. This will also be offered at no cost to you. “ so they are upgrading the breaks but offering to up grade the programming.
Absolutely, put the same motor in the 3.0 They are failing the people who buy their bikes, especially since 750w is legal. That is a 33 percent rip-off, although l don't think Lectric are a rip-off. Definitely better prices than Rad. And put the dual battery option on the 3.0 and call it the 4.0. Nice looking bike as is now XPected. Now, when are the Lectric people going to include brake and blinker lights? How is the ride feeling of this longer wheel base XPedition? And when is Lectric coming out with the XPlorer?
I enjoy your hard work and enthusiasm to do all theses videos , so im looking hard this bike for its capabilities the motor was a big deal that power is so important if your hauling weight I do think this their best option for at least me and what I’m using it for , do you think it gives the wakkie H6 some competition?
JEREMIAH, TODAY IS JUNE 13 I USED YOUR TH-cam PAGE TO ORDER THE EXPEDITION BIKE PLUS THE ADULT SEAT & THE 2 PADS ALL CAME TO $1700+ I HOPE U GET THE CREDIT I 100% USED UR LINK U INCLUDED
Did it ever make it up the grass hill with throttle only? Also please add a video on the suspension seat post. I emailed Lectric and asked them the diameter of the Xpedition seat post and the reply back was 34.9mm
I haven’t had a chance to try the grassy hill yet it’s just been too wet and muddy here. And yes 34.9mm is the correct diameter for the new expedition seat post. In the description of my video, I have a link for the shim that you would need and also some different seat posts. Hope this helps.
I normally replace quick-release seatpost collars with Allen key collars, to deter opportunistic seatpost thieves. Would I need two Allen key collars for the Xpedition, or at the seatposts somehow secured against theft?
You need just one for the one on the seat tube. The upper section of the telescoping seat post is prevented from being lifted out of the lower section by a set screw. The two sections are prevented from rotating relative to each other by a soft tongue & groove feature, so you need to rotate the lower section or loosen the saddle clamp if your saddle isn’t aligned with the bike. I rotated the lower section as I wanted to align the two quick release clamps. That tongue & groove feature also means you have to replace the entire seatpost if you’re wanting a suspension seatpost.
It’s only about 60 to 61 pounds if you take the seat and batteries out of it which a lot of bike racks are capable of Hauling. Definitely check the specs of your bike rack to make sure it’s capable of at least that weight.
Is there a single charge port to charge both batteries simultaneously while installed in the bike? Or do you have to physically unplug the charger from one battery, then plug in another to charge? Do you have to remove the batteries to charge them?
No you don’t need to remove the batteries to charge them but you do need to plug each one in separately to charge. If you had a second charger you could charge them both at the same time tho and it would be twice as fast.
I’m getting this bike for groceries and have passenger this is a step up from the 3.0 , if your like me and need a bike to do a lot this is probably the one🎉
Wow! These reviews were incredibly helpful (looking between the 3.0 and the Expedition). Was originally eyeing the 3.0 for the price point and accessories for school/library/grocery runs in our rural area. However, I like a lot of the upgrades to the Expedition in this video that you showed. Can I ask, with the higher weight limit and stronger motor, how does it handle on hills when loaded down--obviously with pedaling? We live in an extremely hilly area and while I'd mostly have myself + kid (~260 pounds and probably using the Shotgun Pro), it'd be amazing to be able to use the bike for myself + spouse + kid (~430 pounds) to go walking at the parks and not have to worry about parking when tourist season rolls around. There are just more than a few hills between here and there.
If you don’t need the foldability of the 3.0 then this is a great option! Loaded down to 430lbs would definitely require a lot of human input up hills but it’s hard to say depending on the size of the hill. I would say for you and the kid it would probably be just fine but I wouldn’t be so sure about all three of you and maxing out the weight limit on hills because it probably wouldn’t be good for it long-term.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hey, thanks for such a quick response! I took a looksie at the topography maps for my area to see just what I'd be looking at in terms of the different trips. Most of the steeper grades I'd have to deal with are getting out of our neighborhood--12% driveway (which honestly I'm probably going to walk anyway because it's a straight shot, 120' long, and I don't have a deathwish) followed almost immediately by a short, mostly straight 8% then a good flat-ish stretch followed by a curvy 5%. The next big hill would be the park, which is a 7%. Kind of surprised at how mellow those are, to be honest. Thinking about it, most of the big hills are far enough out, that I'd be taking the car for those trips anyway.
Admittedly I only watched the 3.0 video because we were interested in the budget option for school/groceries/library. But then I saw this one and was considering it as an alternative because it would be amazing to have a car-free way to visit the parks during tourist season when the lot fills up so quickly.
@@JeremiahMcintosh So, we ended up finding someone in our area selling one of their Lectric bikes (a 2.0 Step-Thru) for a discount because they were getting the trike instead for the wife. Basically brand new and under 10 miles. Husband was iffy about all three of us on a cargo bike even without hills, so he was pretty interested in that, especially since the gentleman offered to let us both test ride it. We went tonight and did so. He went first and was pretty much in love. I had a harder start getting out of their driveway (had to walk it back a bit and try again because I didn't want to use the throttle right away) because my knees are in such bad shape, but the PAS makes such a difference! I only even needed it at 1-2 with occasional throttle. I haven't gotten to ride a bike since high school (maybe longer), and it was everything I remembered but better (since my knees were already pretty bad then) thanks to the PAS. Thank you thank you THANK YOU so much for your videos and your advice! We're still planning to get a 3.0 for me (probably a step-thru, so that we're using the same batteries on both), so I've still got your channel bookmarked to make sure it uses your referral code. Ditto for your accessories videos, which I've been digging through and looking at the options you recommended. I really appreciate it. Keep on being awesome!
Not something I need, but a great review. Looking at the XP 2.0 Long Range, hoping here in the near future I can get one ordered. I have a full size no-name mountain bike e-bike, its ok, but it doesn't fold up so it won't fit in my car. The Lectric folding bike would be great for my needs going back and forth to work in good weather, as well as throwing it in the car when I take my car in for service, so I can ride the bike home and back to the shop rather than walk 4-1/2 miles LOL. Even the XP 2.0 Long Range has plenty of range, and a much larger motor than my current bike, which is only a 350 watt or 450 watt motor, can't remember for sure. It struggles a bit on the hills, and the XP 2.0 I think would have enough power to pull a small trailer if I want to, which I plan on getting a trailer of some sort to be able to go grocery shopping.
Enjoy your reviews, Jeremiah! So, if you were doing an epic tour day, 50 mi round trip on a nice bike path, and you had a choice of the XP 3.0 with long range battery, XPremium or the Xpedition, what would you choose? Why?
XPedition because it has the biggest battery, the most powerful and the most cargo carrying capabilities. But I would put a good suspension seatpost in it.
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When you review a bike you don't miss out on anything you talk about every nut and bolt, Respect ✌🏾
Thank you. I did miss the fact that currently as of release they are giving the essential package with the purchase of an XPedition bike which is the cushions and foot rests because I didn’t know!
@Jeremiah Mcintosh I know a lot of TH-camrs do a quick review just to get a free e-bike but you Jere go the full mile brother 🙏👍🏾
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Good job on your review
You are the best ever, anywhere. Complete analysis and fun to watch and listen to. I mean, what else is there. Super job. And Thank You for your time and effort
Thank you Monte!
Truth
@@JeremiahMcintosh How do you find the geometry in terms of the how far forward the seat is compared to the pedals? I had the XP 2. 0 Step Thru and found the seat too far forward which made you feel like you were on a Unicycle with the pedals right under your seat. Even with the seat all the way back & raised, my thighs and knees were cramped I I felt a lay back seat post would be needed. Pedaling didn't feel natural in this position and required more effort and caused more strain. (5ft9, 185lb, 40 year old rider) I couldn't get good leg extension with seat raised and moved to the rear. My other ebikes felt more natural in terms of relationship between pedals and seat. I felt the folding nature of the XP 2.0 caused them to have the seat post angle too verticle above the pedals instead of further back.
Yes I would love to see Lectric have a 750W version of their 3.0xp
I caught this video after I already ordered it, but this review was really good. It answered all of my questions that I still had.
Did they say how long it would be before it arrived? I want to order one just don’t want to be waiting months.
Another great review by Jerimiah. He really doesn't leave anything out. I bought my black 2.0 lectric based on his reviews and dropped him a PM about it which he was kind enough to take the time to respond to. Love the bike. Excellent reviews from a person you can trust. Thanks again for the great work!
Yep, I agree. A 750 watt motor and the 24 amp controller on the XP 3.0 would be the sweet spot. I dont like seeing comparable folding bikes beat the Lectric in hill climbs. They are too good of a company for that!
Interesting. Another good value from Lectric.
Always enjoy your videos. Lectric needs a XP 4.0 with 180mm hyd. Brakes, brake light and turn signals and a horn. The 750 motor would be nice too
Amen! I would give up my 2.0 for that version!
Needs 1000w
Lectric is really stepping up! I see why so many people buy them!! And you are the best reviewer out there!! I hope Lectric realizes your talents! You deserve a raise in your commission! 👍🏻😎
Agreed! And thank you!
What a cool bike! I'm really liking my Lite but the new releases are making me want more.
looking at the expedition, with the Plus One seat, wife would love it when I'm not hauling groceries. Finally retired, ready for a little help up the hills...
It’ll definitely has enough power to help you up the hills!
rad is gonna need to step up their game now
I would like full throttle power at all pedal assist levels. I like the throttle for getting me off to a quick start, for example, in traffic when a car is riding up my rear
Other than that, looks like a great bike!
Honestly this style bike wasnt even on my radar until tonight. But could be very useful!
You're awesome Jeremiah, I loved your video. I also love this bike because I was hoping that Lectric would eventually use a 750w motor too. I presently weigh 360 lbs and definitely this or the beautiful Lectric Trike are my vehicles of choice! God bless!!
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I should be getting the Lectric trike to review soon!
@@JeremiahMcintosh I was going to purchase that trike but it only has one battery
@@JeremiahMcintosh Jeremiah, could you please tell me on how to be an ebike reviewer?
How I got started was
I just bought an ebike and just started making informational videos about it. It
Does take a lot of Time an effort tho especially in the beginning.
Great video as always.. Yes, Lectric should put the larger motor in as there are a lot of heavy riders and the power would make a great difference
Hey, Jeremiah I always give you a like dude 👍🏾
I recently purchased the Xpedition. It's my first E-bike. I had many questions about the performance and maintenance and a rep at Lectric recommended your channel. Very informative video.
That’s great to hear! Thanks for checking out my channel and hope it helped answer some of your questions!
Yes sir ree buddy, it her to the test brother, I bought my last night, cannot wait to ride
Awsome review Jeremiah, great looking bike 👍👍70 Degrees im in Vegas 50 degrees 😳
I like this...I actually upgrade to quick-release pedals a while back on my 2.0. Great addition.
Wow, that is a great value..The fact that you can go 20 mph in pedal assist one, and draw only 4 amps, should allow for a massive range, with throttle only, the software is the most impressive aspect of this bike and I'm certain it will be copied by other manufacturers...That is really a game changer..On all other bikes, to get the best range, you would need to go very slow..With good hydraulic brakes and only weighing 61 pounds, and all the add ons, it's an engineering master piece...This may be the perfect platform for my solar bike..I have some great ideas for this bike..
Thanks for the review!
Very informative....interesting...convinced me to buy..will use on Dauphin Island Alabama to haul tackle bag and rods to to fish at different spots on the Island..Thanks
Another great review. I would love to see Lectric come out with an upgrade kit with the larger motor/controller for the 3.0
Oh yeah me as well!
Yes, yes it would be a fantastic update for the Lectric 3.0 XP
Great video as always! Perhaps a front suspension option soon or in the 2.0 version.
Nice! They sure have been building what people have been asking for.
Not bad!, I finally got new cargo with 26mph throttle only but top speed 31mph
My XPedition arrived a few days ago - very impressed so far. 👍 Used your link, plus I bought a lot of accessories (Orbitor, etc.) Do you get a commission on that stuff, too? (Just curious). I hope so -you've earned it! Great reviews and thorough. Keep up the excellent work! 🙂
Thank you for the support and glad you are enjoying it! If you used my link when buying the accessories also then yes I should get the commission. Thank you again and enjoy!
i wouldn't mind the upgraded motor and controller on my 2.0, but yeah imo the next (4.0) should use the better motor and controller, if possible. but i am unsure if the original 2.0 battery could handle the higher output, as the controller in it only pulls 18 amps on the screen.
what i will miss is the ability to pull full power from the throttle, i still would like to have full throttle control even in pas 0, as i remember that was a feature on one of your other bikes.
having the ability to make changes like this in the controller would be great, having more options is never a bad thing imo. you can always choose to not use them. but i guess there is always the inclusion of said options costs $, and if you aren't going to use them, why pay for them? but a better controller would still be a plus imo.
Bought a bike 3.0 through your youtube videos. Wanted to support your videos they r awesome!!!!!
Awesome and thank you very much for the support!
Thanks to you and Lectric for bringing this out and letting you review it.
Thank you to you and all my viewers that make this possible!
Coal Center. 1st local review I ran across. Keep up the good work.
The xp 3.0 & the xp trike would be great to see with the new motor & controller I live in a river valley with some very steep hills to leave the area. Or a very long ride out of the way
Great looking bike and features!
Very awesome video!!! Super helpful!!!
Lectric ebikes are awesome
How do you find the geometry in terms of the how far forward the seat is compared to the pedals? I had the XP 2. 0 Step Thru and found the seat too far forward which made you feel like you were on a Unicycle with the pedals right under your seat. Even with the seat all the way back, my thighs and knees were cramped I I felt a lay back seat post would be needed. Pedaling didn't feel natural in this position and required more effort and caused more strain. (5ft9, 185lb, 40 year old rider) I couldn't get good leg extension with seat raised and moved to the rear. My other ebikes felt more natural in terms of relationship between pedals and seat. I felt the folding nature of the XP 2.0 caused them to have the seat post angle too verticle above the pedals instead of further back.
one thing every person should know how to change the tire if you get a flat... could you tell me if its hard to take that back wheel off??
Thanks but need what the bike weighs to pick up for truck bed loading? Would it likely be too heavy for a hitch bike carrier?
Looks like it could use a suspension seat post. That chain is crazy long, I bet you'd have to join 2 chains together. Interesting bike It would have been nice to see a suspension fork on it. I actually wonder if its even possible to put a suspension fork on it, because the stance of the bike would change, kickstand probably wouldnt touch the ground anymore, etc.
Hmm im not sure but a good suspension post should help a lot!
It looks like a great bike, too bad they didn't have at least front suspension
You can't put front suspension on a bike that can carry 450lbs. It works great at first but unless it's a really good high quality suspension $$$, it won't last long with that much weight.
We’ll see how the suspension forks on the Aventon Abound and AiPAS A6 (this looks and has very similar performance specs as the XPedition) do, as they have similar or identical total weight capacity ratings.
Hello. Many R.V. parks now ban golf carts. I am in the market for an E bike that can pull a pedicab trailer to/from R.V. park to the beach and back. (10 miles one way ) I will take the bike on hard/semi soft sand. Do you think the Lectric Xpediton can get the job done?
You never disappoint! I bought my Lectric xpLite through your link! 👍🏻
Thank you for the support Gail! Let me know what you think about it after you get it!
really nice bike. i would only change couple of things: colour, in my opinion it would look much better if it was black and front suspension. i have tried cargo bikes without front suspension and it feels much better when it has front suspension. also, one more: slightly lower seat height so it would make it easier to ride with a suspension seat post
Any idea how thick the brake disc on Xpedition? 1.77 mm?
Thank you for your thoughtful and very informative review!
Putting that motor in their 3.0 would be the best upgrade ever! Would definitely make me want to purchase one of their e bikes. Only reason I don’t want this xpedition is because it doesn’t fold and is a little too long to make it up my staircase to my apartment. The current motors in the 3.0 is just a little underpowered for me and I’m just going to hold off on buying an e bike until then.
Great video and field test! Would those tires be slick on a wet trail or grass compared to knobby tires? Could you give me the length in inches of that eBike (tip to tip) so I can see if the tires would hide my RV tail lights or license plate when it would be on our Hollywood rack? I presently have a Lectric XP Ver. 1.0.
Do you think the placement of the controller is an issue if caught in heavy rain?
I always love your reviews. This lectric Expedition cargo bike is amazing. Only if I can get my wife to ride my 2.0. I would buy this for $1699 with accessories.
Absolutely it’s an awesome value in my opinion!
How do you unlock? To make it little faster? I'm brand new to this. Lol. Like 3 days ago new.. Also I don't understand the 5 mode? Or when to use them. And what do these do?
As you mentioned, the motor is LOUD. I wish they would tune that better.
Hey Jeremiah, really good and thorough review. Since this XPedition Cargo bike doesn't have any suspension, could you tell me what is the diameter of the lower portion of the telescpic seat post? I have replaced the seat on a couple of my e-bikes with the Kinekt Suspension Seat Post and it has been just about one of the best things that I ever did to the bikes. It makes the ride so much more smooth and comfortable!
I don't know if you have tried one of the Kinekt Suspension Seat Posts, but if you have, could you compare that to one of the Lectric or other brand suspension seat posts that you have tried? I'd say that the only negative thing about the Kinekt Suspension Seat Post is the price, so I'm contemplating if I might want to go with the Lectric or other brand which would be a fair bit less expensive. I'm not really sure what size seat post shim or what length and diameter seat post I would need to purchase as well when purchasing the Kinekt, Lectric or other brand and was wondering if you know what exactly I would need to replace the seat on the XPedition Cargo Bike to a suspension seat post?
Thanks again for the really great and thorough review of the XPedition, I really enjoyed it as well as all of the other reviews that you have put out.
There is a link in the description of the video for the correct shim. I can’t remember off the top of my head the size but if you don’t find it let me know.
Looks like you could put a big pet carrier on the back of that bike. I'm sure people will be doing stuff like pet carriers and big ice coolers. Go on a group bike ride and you could carry the chairs, blanket, food and drinks, in a massive cooler on back of that bike😂
Is the acceleration 'jolty' like Magicycle? or is it smooth like Rad?
I live in a rural hilly part of the Ozarks. How do you think this compares to the Fiido T1 Cargo in terms of quality, speed and hill climbing ability?
Lectric bikes and trikes has made this customer very happy to own these units. I have a 3.0 and my wife a trike (due to balance issues). Lectric goes out of their way to please their customers. You DO NOT find companies like this one very often, they are absolutely great and I can't express my appreciation enough for their customer support. My friends wanted me to buy other brands and now they are regretting their decisions not to go with Lectric.
BIKE IS ON IT'S WAY!!! SO EXCITED. But here's the thing. I'm wanting to order a suspension seat post for my new expedition but not sure of size. Can I order the one in your description?? Another thing, I want the CLOUD 9 SEAT. But the Amazon site your sending us to says, SOLD OUT!! I can buy the seat off another seller but you won't get the credit. I also plan to buy the side mirrors like TODAY!! YOUR SAYING THE ONES IN YOUR DESCRIPTION BELOE WILL FIT THIS BIKE?? Reason I'm asking is. I notice you have the list of favorite accessories in almost every video ive watch on lectric bikes. I dont want to buy something that wont fit this bike, expedition. Here's what I'm wanting like NOW!! MIRRORS, FRONT BASKET, CLOUD 9 SEAT & SUSPENSION SEAT POST. I ALREADY BOUGHT THE BIKE, X2 SEAT PADS & SEAT OFF YOUR SITE. I'm so new to this. My husband said, get what you want but make sure what you get fits!!!! Thanks Jeremiah. I would love to see you get credit oppose to no one.
The post you would need is the one in the description (31.6mm) but you would also need the shim (31.6 to 34.9) also in the description for it to work with the expedition. My exact seat has been sold out for a while now but if you find it from another seller I’ll still get credit as long you went to amazon through my link. I’ll actually get credit for your entire order no matter what you decide to buy. Make sure you get the correct seat with the hole in the middle because they make a bunch of cloud 9 seats and the comfort is different on all of them. Thanks again for the support!
Excellent review, thanks Jeremiah! Lectric has been actually listening to these reviews (yours and many others), you can tell by the evolution of their product releases. So this bike review got me thinking - how cool would it be if they built this in a pedal platform for two peddlers?!?
Hey Lectric… how about drawing up an XPedition built for two!!?? Imagine the distance and battery capacity efficiency with two sets of pedals?
🤔 Hmm that would be interesting!
Now they need a 750w regular bike maybe the XP 3.5 or 4.0
Are you still using this? I sure want this for long distance and camp.
Great review! Question, do the batteries work together or is one running and when dies the other takes over?
It will drain the battery that has a higher charge down to the level of the lower charged battery and then will drain them equally.
Thanks for a great video Jeremiah! I have a couple of questions…1) The motor seems very loud on the video. Is it that loud when riding or is it amplified from the video. 2) If money wasn’t a factor, would you go with the 3.0 or the Xpedition. Thanks again!
Man that’s tough to answer because they are two totally different bikes and it depends what options fit your needs. Smaller foldable and more compact or more power , longer range and more cargo capacity with a shorter reach. Both great for different situations. The motor does seem to be pretty loud at times tho.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Thanks for the quick reply and info
Love your videos, with the xp 3.0 break upgrade coming up, they are offing to upgrade to their pedal assist wattage regulation. Having tried it out on this bike, would you suggest that up grade for the 3.0? Or should I stick with it’s current peddle assist with it limiting me by speed?
Are they offering to sell it to you or send it for free? It really depends what you like better I don’t really mind either but it is nice to have full throttle power in the lower pas levels on the 3.0.
The email from lectric says “In addition to hydraulic brakes, we will offer to upgrade your XP 3.0 eBike's programming to the Lectric PWR™ system, providing you with intuitive power delivery and a smooth, natural take-off. Lectric PWR™ also provides a massive boost in the efficiency of your eBike, allowing for more range with a single charge. This will also be offered at no cost to you. “ so they are upgrading the breaks but offering to up grade the programming.
Solid review. You should be proud, sir.
Amazing review! Great job!
Good review I’ll probably get the Xp Lite but this is on my radar.
Love your videos! Great review except that it makes me wish I waited on my 3.0 purchase.
Thank you Greg! Both great bikes for different situations tho.
Beautiful informative Presentation & Illustration. Thank you 🙏
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it!
I'd like to see that motor, controller and dual batteries in their E Trike.
Would you ride this over a RadWagon? I kinda want to sell my RW for this...
Absolutely, put the same motor in the 3.0
They are failing the people who buy their bikes, especially since 750w is legal. That is a 33 percent rip-off, although l don't think Lectric are a rip-off. Definitely better prices than Rad. And put the dual battery option on the 3.0 and call it the 4.0. Nice looking bike as is now XPected. Now, when are the Lectric people going to include brake and blinker lights? How is the ride feeling of this longer wheel base XPedition? And when is Lectric coming out with the XPlorer?
Thanks for your reviews
You’re welcome. Thank you!
Oh wow, until I watched your video I had no idea it had 2 batteries. Wow!
I enjoy your hard work and enthusiasm to do all theses videos , so im looking hard this bike for its capabilities the motor was a big deal that power is so important if your hauling weight I do think this their best option for at least me and what I’m using it for , do you think it gives the wakkie H6 some competition?
What app are you using on your phone. Thanks.
It’s called Speedometer
JEREMIAH, TODAY IS JUNE 13 I USED YOUR TH-cam PAGE TO ORDER THE EXPEDITION BIKE PLUS THE ADULT SEAT & THE 2 PADS ALL CAME TO $1700+ I HOPE U GET THE CREDIT I 100% USED UR LINK U INCLUDED
That’s great to hear and Thank you so much for the support! I really appreciate it!
Since the pedals are fancy gripping style, can they be swapped out with regular pedals (like ones with clips)? thanks for your great review.
Yes they are standard threads and can be swapped out for different pedals.
I wonder if that 750 watt motor will make its way to the xpremium it’s in need of an update.
Great review! What app is that you are using on your phone?
Thank you! I use an app just called speedometer for speed and one called relive for tracking my trips.
Did it ever make it up the grass hill with throttle only? Also please add a video on the suspension seat post. I emailed Lectric and asked them the diameter of the Xpedition seat post and the reply back was 34.9mm
I haven’t had a chance to try the grassy hill yet it’s just been too wet and muddy here.
And yes 34.9mm is the correct diameter for the new expedition seat post. In the description of my video, I have a link for the shim that you would need and also some different seat posts. Hope this helps.
I normally replace quick-release seatpost collars with Allen key collars, to deter opportunistic seatpost thieves. Would I need two Allen key collars for the Xpedition, or at the seatposts somehow secured against theft?
You need just one for the one on the seat tube.
The upper section of the telescoping seat post is prevented from being lifted out of the lower section by a set screw.
The two sections are prevented from rotating relative to each other by a soft tongue & groove feature, so you need to rotate the lower section or loosen the saddle clamp if your saddle isn’t aligned with the bike. I rotated the lower section as I wanted to align the two quick release clamps. That tongue & groove feature also means you have to replace the entire seatpost if you’re wanting a suspension seatpost.
@@chow-chihuang4903 thanks so much for the details!
I wish there next bike comes with a electric bell horn that would be cool your video are awesome keep up it
Did it include a phone mount? Or that tool that locks the wheel to a bike parking area?
No, but sometimes they have specials that include them. I would just keep an eye out.
This look like the perfect bike to replace a car.
I love your videos!!
What are the bike rack/car carrying possibilities for the Xpedition? It's 80lbs and 73" long.
It’s only about 60 to 61 pounds if you take the seat and batteries out of it which a lot of bike racks are capable of Hauling. Definitely check the specs of your bike rack to make sure it’s capable of at least that weight.
Do you have the gears at 7?
Is there a single charge port to charge both batteries simultaneously while installed in the bike? Or do you have to physically unplug the charger from one battery, then plug in another to charge? Do you have to remove the batteries to charge them?
No you don’t need to remove the batteries to charge them but you do need to plug each one in separately to charge. If you had a second charger you could charge them both at the same time tho and it would be twice as fast.
Without suspension?
Flat tires. How easy or hard is it to remove the wheels to repair flat tires? Is it tube or tubeless?
Not to hard and they have tubes that come pre slimed in this bike to help with flats.
Thanks for this great review!
Anyone know how wide bottom bracket shell is?
TIA!
Hoping to see a comparison with the 3.0 for commute and grocery shopping
I’m getting this bike for groceries and have passenger this is a step up from the 3.0 , if your like me and need a bike to do a lot this is probably the one🎉
No shocks front or rear but I wonder if frame flex on the long frame helps reduce the bouncy ride.
It actually didn’t seem too bad but I think a good suspension seat post would help a lot.
sweet
Wow! These reviews were incredibly helpful (looking between the 3.0 and the Expedition). Was originally eyeing the 3.0 for the price point and accessories for school/library/grocery runs in our rural area. However, I like a lot of the upgrades to the Expedition in this video that you showed. Can I ask, with the higher weight limit and stronger motor, how does it handle on hills when loaded down--obviously with pedaling? We live in an extremely hilly area and while I'd mostly have myself + kid (~260 pounds and probably using the Shotgun Pro), it'd be amazing to be able to use the bike for myself + spouse + kid (~430 pounds) to go walking at the parks and not have to worry about parking when tourist season rolls around. There are just more than a few hills between here and there.
If you don’t need the foldability of the 3.0 then this is a great option! Loaded down to 430lbs would definitely require a lot of human input up hills but it’s hard to say depending on the size of the hill. I would say for you and the kid it would probably be just fine but I wouldn’t be so sure about all three of you and maxing out the weight limit on hills because it probably wouldn’t be good for it long-term.
@@JeremiahMcintosh Hey, thanks for such a quick response! I took a looksie at the topography maps for my area to see just what I'd be looking at in terms of the different trips. Most of the steeper grades I'd have to deal with are getting out of our neighborhood--12% driveway (which honestly I'm probably going to walk anyway because it's a straight shot, 120' long, and I don't have a deathwish) followed almost immediately by a short, mostly straight 8% then a good flat-ish stretch followed by a curvy 5%. The next big hill would be the park, which is a 7%. Kind of surprised at how mellow those are, to be honest. Thinking about it, most of the big hills are far enough out, that I'd be taking the car for those trips anyway.
Did you see my second Hill test video I did comparing 26 different bikes? That was a 6° Grade or 10.5% slope.
Admittedly I only watched the 3.0 video because we were interested in the budget option for school/groceries/library. But then I saw this one and was considering it as an alternative because it would be amazing to have a car-free way to visit the parks during tourist season when the lot fills up so quickly.
@@JeremiahMcintosh So, we ended up finding someone in our area selling one of their Lectric bikes (a 2.0 Step-Thru) for a discount because they were getting the trike instead for the wife. Basically brand new and under 10 miles. Husband was iffy about all three of us on a cargo bike even without hills, so he was pretty interested in that, especially since the gentleman offered to let us both test ride it. We went tonight and did so. He went first and was pretty much in love. I had a harder start getting out of their driveway (had to walk it back a bit and try again because I didn't want to use the throttle right away) because my knees are in such bad shape, but the PAS makes such a difference! I only even needed it at 1-2 with occasional throttle. I haven't gotten to ride a bike since high school (maybe longer), and it was everything I remembered but better (since my knees were already pretty bad then) thanks to the PAS.
Thank you thank you THANK YOU so much for your videos and your advice! We're still planning to get a 3.0 for me (probably a step-thru, so that we're using the same batteries on both), so I've still got your channel bookmarked to make sure it uses your referral code. Ditto for your accessories videos, which I've been digging through and looking at the options you recommended. I really appreciate it. Keep on being awesome!
Not something I need, but a great review. Looking at the XP 2.0 Long Range, hoping here in the near future I can get one ordered. I have a full size no-name mountain bike e-bike, its ok, but it doesn't fold up so it won't fit in my car. The Lectric folding bike would be great for my needs going back and forth to work in good weather, as well as throwing it in the car when I take my car in for service, so I can ride the bike home and back to the shop rather than walk 4-1/2 miles LOL. Even the XP 2.0 Long Range has plenty of range, and a much larger motor than my current bike, which is only a 350 watt or 450 watt motor, can't remember for sure. It struggles a bit on the hills, and the XP 2.0 I think would have enough power to pull a small trailer if I want to, which I plan on getting a trailer of some sort to be able to go grocery shopping.
Thank you! Yep sounds like the 2.0 would work great for you!
Enjoy your reviews, Jeremiah!
So, if you were doing an epic tour day, 50 mi round trip on a nice bike path, and you had a choice of the XP 3.0 with long range battery, XPremium or the Xpedition, what would you choose? Why?
XPedition because it has the biggest battery, the most powerful and the most cargo carrying capabilities. But I would put a good suspension seatpost in it.
I was hopping you were gonna get this bike so I can see it true!