I guess that I am late to the party here in 2022. I just wanted to say that dad, a WW2 combat veteran, always referred to the MP-40 as a "Burp-Gun." I grew up with that phrase back in the fifties and sixties. Crud, now I am well into my own 'sixties.' --Old Guy
Really appreciate your comments on the way you hold the MP40. I naturally hold it the same way and never gave it much thought. Like hearing about your experience with customer service too.. Recently I had a number of issues with Buds Gun Shop online and after weeks of calling and sending numerous emails they still haven't bothered to respond. Customer Service is very important to me for obvious reasons. Glad to hear American Tactical has good service because I plan to make some purchases.
I got mine not to long ago. I’ve fired hundreds of rounds, no cleaning, no issues other than the charging handle likes to leave the chat and the shells are flattened on one side after firing. Next will be the stock. It’ll most certainly double the cost of the gun to get, stamp, install, but I love this gun! And I have a Thompson
I've been shooting a 30 cal M1 Carbine Enforcer Pistol, with an 11 inch barrel for about 45 years now. No folding stock, NOT an SBR. . . .You need a longer sling. . . .You should adjust your sling so it goes around one arm and your neck (typical WWII carry), but tighten it up to the length for a correct "cheek weld" when you aim. It's going to hang high on your chest, and not look cool on your hip. . . .Push the gun away from you, (you do it at timestamp 2:42 .) the sling pulls tight, and you are going to hold a much steadier sight picture. . . .Pushing away with the sling slows down your rapid fire, but more shots will be on target.
I contacted American Tactical Imports about the bulging primers. They stated the ammunition could be too hot of a load, which with the 115gr 9mm factory load isn’t very likely. The second possibility is that it is too light of a load. They suggested I try a 124 grain bullet to rule out ammunition. If it is not ammunition it could be a head space issue.
Why would they send out a gun with incorrect headspace knowing you were already having problems? Anyway its not showing any flattened or backed out primers or extraction issues so I think its just their fitment of the firing pin in the bolt face. Its not out of the or ordinary to see this on Tec9's and high points, I'm sure some others.
@Brett Musil Actually if its a stock then the overall length doesn't matter, its still an SBR. If its a pistol brace however, then making the overall length more than 26" would make it a "firearm" and not a rifle nor pistol.
I am so excited about mine I just purchased one the only thing is I half to wait 7 day's for background check and update my HQL card because living in the state of Maryland the MP40 is considered a handgun , let alone I also half to drive up to Pennsylvania to get the 25 round Magazine for it perfectly legal because I'm buying the Magazine out of state had to do the same thing for my AR-15 because Maryland has a 10 round magazine restriction , so ridiculous.
I have seen WWII actual photographs of German soldiers in the field with the Sling installed both ways so perhaps the way (The German soldiers) attached the Sling was personal preference,rather than they were told,this is the only way to attach the Sling.
From what I understand the reason for the light primer strokes is because they used the same parts for the 9mm as they did the .22. Just not string enough.
How ridiculous, I half to drive out of state to purchase the 25 round Magazine' for mine MP40 I just purchased that shoots 9mm because my state has a 10 round Magazine' restriction I had to do the same thing for my AR-15 drive up to Pennsylvania to get my 30 round Magazine's perfectly legal because I'm 😂purchasing it out of state.
Cool gun!! Reenactors will like this gun once they get a folding stock for it!! Most squad leaders in the German army would have had the mp40 or mp38, something that has been missing in reenacters arsenals!!
I noticed that your sling is rather relaxed compared to the Leather replica Sling I purchased that is quite stiff because the leather is new.I read that the original slings were dark brown and that with use,being out in the field that they would turn almost black .Would you think that something like saddle soap would help soften the leather and perhaps darken it up a bit as well?
Try different ammo. I have several 9mm PCC's and each likes its own ammo. I have a Suomi M31 SA, KP44 pistol SA, 2 Sterlings SA carbines TI and TII, UZI carbine and PPS43 pistol SA. You may find it likes cheap steel case Tula or any number of brass, maybe in 124gr or lower...like I said they are all different. Find the right ammo it likes and then stock up on it. My next 9mm pistol will be the GSG MP40 and I fully expect for it to be ammo sensitive...its just part of collecting these converted guns. Also some of these like to run wet (oiled), others do not...you just need to figure each out.
Yeah, I think you're on the right track of thinking it's a headspace issue. You already know from experience that if you're running some factory +P, the primers still shouldn't look like that. The wonky primer bulges combined with the occasional light strikes, really sounds like a headspacing issue to me as well. Chambers could've been cut a little too deep from the factory or the breach isn't completely shutting flush as far as it should. Maybe a very small flaw in the machining, like uneven cuts somewhere? Could be a super tiny or virtually invisible burr around the chambers mouth or breach face somewhere? Or something along those lines. 🤔 Definitely perplexing. Esp cause it's not a prob being reported around other owners. Could've been a small interference with the tooling, an obstruction of some kind that resulted in a batch of a few parts that were manufactured just a bit "off". Like one of those practically undetectable little things. Either way, it's still a cool gun. Not a complete deal breaker IMO. Unfortunate, but not a total bust. The cool factor def makes up for it.
I’ve got the stamp to make the MP40 legal. Next question is where we can get a left hand threaded piston for my suppressor??? The stamp from ATF was to allow a folding stock!!
to strong of recoil spring can cause the problems you have been having, and so the strong force of the spring make it hard to gas blowback and when it does it sends the firing pin forward very hard. I would leave it cocked for a few days to let the spring come more relaxed. hence loosing a bit of spring tension. also bad ammo feeding is mainly due to not being a strong enough spring in the mag, simple fix. just insert a stronger spring into the mag, or stretch. but that wont be a good fix/temp . As said by (iloveshootingshit) also you could have problems with the power of the rounds..The MP40 doe's need to have good strong blowback to operate correctly, so I would get NATO-spec ammo as it is very close to WWII German ammo specs, and a bit more powerful than US SAAMI-spec ammo.. hope this info is helpful.
I had a problem with a mushy trigger as well charger kept falling out. I went to eBay and bought a trigger piece and fixed that issue I called ATI and told them about the charger and they told me to use some lock tite on the charger handle and it solved that issue. For 500 dollars it is an ok gun. It usually stays on my wall for a conversation piece.
i do not own one but would like to, i always thought about the lack of a fore grip and holding the magazine to be a weak point of the gun but the way you hold it seems best. the germans had a lot of cool stuff. clint eastwood could shoot 2 at a time in the movie "Where Eagles Dare".
i don't know if you still own this firearm, but i have an example of one, and in the 4 or so years ive owned it, ive only sent about 1 magazine through it, incredibly unreliable in my experience. any suggestions?
Not much I can say. You can try sending it back like I did. Wait forever for it to come back. Only to have them send a new one because the old was too much to fix. Then the new one is still finicky. You can try a gunsmith directly but it might be expensive. Not sure the gun is worth it. I use mine as a display gun. Sad but I'm not sure what the alternative is. Wait for a company to come out withe one made correctly. I still hope to find one someday made from stamped sheet metal. Something that looks the part and has reliability.
Its not a pressure issue, its poor fitment of the fireing pin in the bolt face. Probly why you're getting some light strikes as well.*edit I'm assuming they wouldn't send you two guns with incorrect headspace as that would be the first thing they should check . Also assuming you're not using handloads.
Bulging primers almost looks like hot rounds. Bulging normally means excessive pressure, wonder if you are using +P or hot rounds. As for the light primer strike at the 6 minute mark, it almost looks like the magazine was not seated all the way, the bottom looks tilted back a bit.
Even if you're running some factory +P, the primers shouldn't look like that. The wonky primer bulges combined with the occasional light strikes, really sounds like a headspacing issue to me. Chambers could've been cut a little deep from the factory or the breach isn't completely shutting flush as far as it should. Either way, it's still a cool gun. Not a complete deal breaker IMO. Unfortunate, but not a total bust. The cool factor def makes up for it.
interesting. I have a question on primers bulging, is it really the gun that causes it, or the round itself? What does? Would the primer bulge if you fired it in other pistols?
the firing pin is hitting to hard causing the metal of the primer to stretch outwards. a firing pin should strike it enough to fire the round bot not cause to much damage to the primer, as the firing pin can brake more easily.
Crazy how people get so worked up about how you hold it. I’m with you on shooting it. I just ordered a new one today. I hope it is dependable. Nice video!
Watch the videos of the ATI MP40 9mm Improved parts and upgrade trigger... You Tube channel Jakes Custom Gun Parts and I sell them on Gunbroker.... search ATI MP40 improved trigger...tks Jake
Because there's plenty of surplus Enfields around. MP40s are practically impossible costwise for the average person to own without serious dedication to collecting.
Poorly made "replica". While it is made in Germany, it is NOT of German quality. The bolt and springs appear to be made of recycled tin cans. The charging handle falls off easily. The design is NOT even close to the original. Why they didn't make a true copy of the MP40 is beyond me. They could have converted the open bolt design to a closed bolt jut as UZI did for it's semis. Save your money. Buy a Stribog if you are looking for a budget close quarters 9mm you can actually rely on if there is a bump in the night.
I never in a thousand years imagined they'd make something like this...it's a dream come true!!
Just goes to show that when enough people want something it makes sense to make the friggin thing.
Now i need the kurz ammo stg44
The mag well and receiver are one piece!! Doesn't hurt a thing to hold the mag well.
I guess that I am late to the party here in 2022. I just wanted to say that dad, a WW2 combat veteran, always referred to the MP-40 as a "Burp-Gun." I grew up with that phrase back in the fifties and sixties. Crud, now I am well into my own 'sixties.' --Old Guy
Really appreciate your comments on the way you hold the MP40. I naturally hold it the same way and never gave it much thought. Like hearing about your experience with customer service too.. Recently I had a number of issues with Buds Gun Shop online and after weeks of calling and sending numerous emails they still haven't bothered to respond. Customer Service is very important to me for obvious reasons. Glad to hear American Tactical has good service because I plan to make some purchases.
I got mine not to long ago. I’ve fired hundreds of rounds, no cleaning, no issues other than the charging handle likes to leave the chat and the shells are flattened on one side after firing. Next will be the stock. It’ll most certainly double the cost of the gun to get, stamp, install, but I love this gun! And I have a Thompson
I've been shooting a 30 cal M1 Carbine Enforcer Pistol, with an 11 inch barrel for about 45 years now. No folding stock, NOT an SBR. . . .You need a longer sling. . . .You should adjust your sling so it goes around one arm and your neck (typical WWII carry), but tighten it up to the length for a correct "cheek weld" when you aim. It's going to hang high on your chest, and not look cool on your hip. . . .Push the gun away from you, (you do it at timestamp 2:42 .) the sling pulls tight, and you are going to hold a much steadier sight picture. . . .Pushing away with the sling slows down your rapid fire, but more shots will be on target.
I contacted American Tactical Imports about the bulging primers. They stated the ammunition could be too hot of a load, which with the 115gr 9mm factory load isn’t very likely. The second possibility is that it is too light of a load. They suggested I try a 124 grain bullet to rule out ammunition. If it is not ammunition it could be a head space issue.
iloveshootingshit are these legal in california
iloveshootingshit primers backing out is typically incorrect headspace
Blow back guns cans show bulged primers it’s not uncommon
Why would they send out a gun with incorrect headspace knowing you were already having problems? Anyway its not showing any flattened or backed out primers or extraction issues so I think its just their fitment of the firing pin in the bolt face. Its not out of the or ordinary to see this on Tec9's and high points, I'm sure some others.
You are actually holding it correctly
I have one ,and it performs flawlessly.....hope your luck changes,and the way your holding it ,is the way I use it too.
Sounds like ATI stepped up to the plate with a new gun shipped to you.
I wish they would make a 8mm kurz stg44
Joseph Stalin there is something like that I’m single sho carbine but looks exactly like the stermgaware
What's the reason it doesn't come with a folding stock? Some stupid SBR b.s.?
ZFlyingVLover exactly
@Brett Musil Actually if its a stock then the overall length doesn't matter, its still an SBR. If its a pistol brace however, then making the overall length more than 26" would make it a "firearm" and not a rifle nor pistol.
@Brett Musil Ahh, my bad.
@obrbob194 Random butthurt libtard in the comments lmao
Because it becomes a rifle and -oh my-what a "scary" thought!!
Mac Miller's long lost brother lol
U know how often I get told that. Mac Miller was an ugly dude so I guess I'm ugly huh 🤣🤣🤣
Your the first guy I've seen that holds it right.
I am so excited about mine I just purchased one the only thing is I half to wait 7 day's for background check and update my HQL card because living in the state of Maryland the MP40 is considered a handgun , let alone I also half to drive up to Pennsylvania to get the 25 round Magazine for it perfectly legal because I'm buying the Magazine out of state had to do the same thing for my AR-15 because Maryland has a 10 round magazine restriction , so ridiculous.
FWIW, the sling was originally mounted on the right so it wouldn't interfere with the operating handle and mag release.
Not 100% true. These were released with sling mounts both left and right.
I have seen WWII actual photographs of German soldiers in the field with the Sling installed both ways so perhaps the way (The German soldiers) attached the Sling was personal preference,rather than they were told,this is the only way to attach the Sling.
very nice item . and you are holding it in the correct way . Do not hold the mag.
From what I understand the reason for the light primer strokes is because they used the same parts for the 9mm as they did the .22.
Just not string enough.
I live in Canada, all we can get is the .22 version. So jealous
How ridiculous, I half to drive out of state to purchase the 25 round Magazine' for mine MP40 I just purchased that shoots 9mm because my state has a 10 round Magazine' restriction I had to do the same thing for my AR-15 drive up to Pennsylvania to get my 30 round Magazine's perfectly legal because I'm 😂purchasing it out of state.
the primers are striking light because the round is probably headspaced incorrectly also causing them to bulge after being fired. buy a set of gauges
Do they make steel-cased cartridges? Any of the original wartime rounds I've had were laquered steel.
Cool gun!! Reenactors will like this gun once they get a folding stock for it!!
Most squad leaders in the German army would have had the mp40 or mp38, something that has been missing in reenacters arsenals!!
lmao reenactors. wannnabe soldiers.
Armida Alcocer actually alot of reenactors are veteran
@@votered3539 I guess by your garbage logic any actor playing a role is a 'wannabe'.
@@coldsnap999 he probably never heard of the "actor" Audie Murphy ;p
I noticed that your sling is rather relaxed compared to the Leather replica Sling I purchased that is quite stiff because the leather is new.I read that the original slings were dark brown and that with use,being out in the field that they would turn almost black .Would you think that something like saddle soap would help soften the leather and perhaps darken it up a bit as well?
Try different ammo. I have several 9mm PCC's and each likes its own ammo. I have a Suomi M31 SA, KP44 pistol SA, 2 Sterlings SA carbines TI and TII, UZI carbine and PPS43 pistol SA. You may find it likes cheap steel case Tula or any number of brass, maybe in 124gr or lower...like I said they are all different. Find the right ammo it likes and then stock up on it. My next 9mm pistol will be the GSG MP40 and I fully expect for it to be ammo sensitive...its just part of collecting these converted guns. Also some of these like to run wet (oiled), others do not...you just need to figure each out.
Choo 1982 U got to get u some stens in that cool collection you have. easy to build I had to learn to wield to make my mk3.
Shame you cant use the folding stock like on my umarex BB version.
been running winchester 115 in mine and it hasn't jammed since I got it.
Yeah, I think you're on the right track of thinking it's a headspace issue. You already know from experience that if you're running some factory +P, the primers still shouldn't look like that. The wonky primer bulges combined with the occasional light strikes, really sounds like a headspacing issue to me as well.
Chambers could've been cut a little too deep from the factory or the breach isn't completely shutting flush as far as it should. Maybe a very small flaw in the machining, like uneven cuts somewhere? Could be a super tiny or virtually invisible burr around the chambers mouth or breach face somewhere? Or something along those lines. 🤔 Definitely perplexing. Esp cause it's not a prob being reported around other owners. Could've been a small interference with the tooling, an obstruction of some kind that resulted in a batch of a few parts that were manufactured just a bit "off". Like one of those practically undetectable little things.
Either way, it's still a cool gun. Not a complete deal breaker IMO. Unfortunate, but not a total bust. The cool factor def makes up for it.
Who made the sling?
I’ve got the stamp to make the MP40 legal. Next question is where we can get a left hand threaded piston for my suppressor??? The stamp from ATF was to allow a folding stock!!
That sling should have come with a second little leather loop to secure the bit that sticks up.
Electrical tape is a quick fix, until you find a leather loop.
to strong of recoil spring can cause the problems you have been having, and so the strong force of the spring make it hard to gas blowback and when it does it sends the firing pin forward very hard. I would leave it cocked for a few days to let the spring come more relaxed. hence loosing a bit of spring tension. also bad ammo feeding is mainly due to not being a strong enough spring in the mag, simple fix. just insert a stronger spring into the mag, or stretch. but that wont be a good fix/temp .
As said by (iloveshootingshit) also you could have problems with the power of the rounds..The MP40 doe's need to have good strong blowback to operate correctly, so I would get NATO-spec ammo as it is very close to WWII German ammo specs, and a bit more powerful than US SAAMI-spec ammo.. hope this info is helpful.
are you able add a that collapsible stock, like the originals had?
Yes GSG makes a stock for it
I had a problem with a mushy trigger as well charger kept falling out. I went to eBay and bought a trigger piece and fixed that issue I called ATI and told them about the charger and they told me to use some lock tite on the charger handle and it solved that issue. For 500 dollars it is an ok gun. It usually stays on my wall for a conversation piece.
But is single action?
No issues with mine. You should use a high end Ammo. Live or Blank
Interesting. At the display you have the sling properly installed then you have it backwards when your firing. What the heck did you do that for?
I fixed it after I shot it last but before i filmed the intro haha
Thanks for responding. Really enjoyed your video!
Noticed on ejection that spent cartridges go all different directions; maybe loose extractor or ejector??
Yea the other one i had before i got this one also had erratic shell ejection
Do you have a link to were I can by a sling like yours? Thanks...
It is on amazon. Just look up MP40 sling
i do not own one but would like to, i always thought about the lack of a fore grip and holding the magazine to be a weak point of the gun but the way you hold it seems best. the germans had a lot of cool stuff. clint eastwood could shoot 2 at a time in the movie "Where Eagles Dare".
i don't know if you still own this firearm, but i have an example of one, and in the 4 or so years ive owned it, ive only sent about 1 magazine through it, incredibly unreliable in my experience. any suggestions?
Not much I can say. You can try sending it back like I did. Wait forever for it to come back. Only to have them send a new one because the old was too much to fix. Then the new one is still finicky.
You can try a gunsmith directly but it might be expensive. Not sure the gun is worth it. I use mine as a display gun. Sad but I'm not sure what the alternative is. Wait for a company to come out withe one made correctly. I still hope to find one someday made from stamped sheet metal. Something that looks the part and has reliability.
@@iloveshootingshit thanks for the suggestions
Without the folding stock it's a no-go for me
Its not a pressure issue, its poor fitment of the fireing pin in the bolt face. Probly why you're getting some light strikes as well.*edit I'm assuming they wouldn't send you two guns with incorrect headspace as that would be the first thing they should check . Also assuming you're not using handloads.
Cool weapon enjoy
You should do a video on the Auto Ordnance Thompson Pistol. Not a lot a videos on it.
If I can get my hands on one then sure
Where can I get those acrylic rifle stands?
Amazon
@@iloveshootingshit
Thanks
As a tec9 owner I can relate to a degree.
As a tec9 owner have you had your charging handle break in half? Because it did on mine hahaha
@@iloveshootingshit only the original firing pin
Bulging primers almost looks like hot rounds. Bulging normally means excessive pressure, wonder if you are using +P or hot rounds.
As for the light primer strike at the 6 minute mark, it almost looks like the magazine was not seated all the way, the bottom looks tilted back a bit.
Even if you're running some factory +P, the primers shouldn't look like that. The wonky primer bulges combined with the occasional light strikes, really sounds like a headspacing issue to me.
Chambers could've been cut a little deep from the factory or the breach isn't completely shutting flush as far as it should.
Either way, it's still a cool gun. Not a complete deal breaker IMO. Unfortunate, but not a total bust. The cool factor def makes up for it.
interesting. I have a question on primers bulging, is it really the gun that causes it, or the round itself? What does? Would the primer bulge if you fired it in other pistols?
it could be ammunition. or head spacing. I am going to have to try other ammunition.
the firing pin is hitting to hard causing the metal of the primer to stretch outwards. a firing pin should strike it enough to fire the round bot not cause to much damage to the primer, as the firing pin can brake more easily.
Regulas
Looks like the firing pin hole in the bolt is too large for the firing pin. That will cause donut shaped primer bulges.
@@alecwilder9169 yes thank you Jeezus!
Where did you get that display stand from?
amazon.com
Can you bump fire it from the hip ?
I doubt it. It has a long trigger reset
Yes you can
It could be the ammo?
How much does one of these cost. I love it
It is $539 on Atlantic Firearms
iloveshootingshit hey thanks a lot for the reply. More affordable than I expected tbh! Awesome vid
I am glad you enjoyed my work. I hope you continue to enjoy my videos
is it also full auto??
No. It's barely semi auto 🤣
THEY KEPT YOYR ORIGINAL?
LMAO
Compare this with thr PPS43
I been thinking the same thing. But never got around to it. I will consider it
WHY CANT WE GET THE FOLDING STOCK???
GSG makes a folding stock for it. For a SBR
Could be finicky with ammo. Try different stuff. Buy gauges and check headspace too.
I want one of those! Ammo would be cheaper and easier to get. And if I put good quality ammo in it, i think i should get good results.
It functioned the best with 147 grain ball ammunition.
They should extend the mag well for a front grip.
No folding stock?
That would make it a SBR
I had to wait 6 months for them to decide to send me a new one.
sweet rifle
Legally a pistol with that short barrel
@pastmaster2000 yep in some states like in Maryland
NO FOLDING STOCK????
No because that would make its a SBR. That's a lot of hassle and money
The ammo you are using looks like it’s could be a possible problem
=slowmoshots= =I stare at the screws and grind my teeth=
INSTRUCTIONS ARE CLEAR YOU CANT HOLD THE STICK MAGAZINE AS A HANDLE WHATSOEVER!
Then don't. I prefer to hold the magwell. If you own one you should hold it the way you r comfortable with
Crazy how people get so worked up about how you hold it. I’m with you on shooting it. I just ordered a new one today. I hope it is dependable. Nice video!
Needs true cartridge stg44
You hold it like your supposed to do... I dont think anyone gave you flak about how you hold it unless you did so by the whole mag.
Some do. The manual shows u keeping ur hands off the mag or magwell
Yo love it
i do love it. The bulge in the primer makes me uneasy but aside from that yes i do love it. I can't wait to do more with this firearm
Iloveshootingshit I must get one its the closest thing to owning a ww2 version of the full auto MP40
Watch the videos of the ATI MP40 9mm Improved parts and upgrade trigger... You Tube channel Jakes Custom Gun Parts and I sell them on Gunbroker.... search ATI MP40 improved trigger...tks Jake
Why doesemt some company do this for Lee Enfield's or something
Because there's plenty of surplus Enfields around. MP40s are practically impossible costwise for the average person to own without serious dedication to collecting.
Cause you can buy actual surplus enfields all day. Try buying an actual mp40 without a class 3 permit and a shitload of money. Good luck.
Magazine “well” not weld.
Josh Steinhauser hahaha I never even noticed I was saying that. Nice catch.
Go to auto ordinance and try a tommy gun pistol!!!!
Otomatik at
Poles
Bump fire it.
Good luck with that. The trigger isn't great for that
didn't need the porn intro
Then this isnt the channel for you. This is a gun porn channel
try some different ammo
I think the CZ Scorpion Evo 3 is a better sub gun.
Poorly made "replica". While it is made in Germany, it is NOT of German quality. The bolt and springs appear to be made of recycled tin cans. The charging handle falls off easily. The design is NOT even close to the original. Why they didn't make a true copy of the MP40 is beyond me. They could have converted the open bolt design to a closed bolt jut as UZI did for it's semis.
Save your money. Buy a Stribog if you are looking for a budget close quarters 9mm you can actually rely on if there is a bump in the night.
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Lame video Armature verging