Incredible footage and even more incredible commentary. I love the energy analogies, sailing "hot" you might be gathering speed but you're losing "energy" especially if you're not turning that speed into downwind surfs. It would be an absolute dream to helm a boat like this in conditions like this!
while sailing down to the canaries i wondered if it would be possible to design a boat to run at the same speed as the waves so you could catch a big one and ride it all the way across the atlantic... would be fun...
Amazing vid! Thanks for sharing. Is this a boat essentially a lengthened version of the Gunboat 78? (with the added length at the transoms) - and dual outboard helm stations? Where was she built? Same builder as the Gb78 "My Cat"?
Same architect - Nigel Irens, she was launched while Gunboat were still trying to get their act together. Green Marine in England built her and she was 78 originally, they had issues with the rig - mast loss offshore and then extended the transoms.
VMG is velocity made good. Basically the speed towards your destination (in contrast to boat speed when you are not going directly towards your destination)
I am certainly no expert but I would have been a lot more comfortable with more flotation in the bows of the hulls. In slightly heavier seas it looks as though the bows could bury themselves in the forward wave, resulting in a sudden stop with the stern being lifted by a following wave plus the wind in the sails, resulting in, at worst, a forward flip, or less catastrophically, broken standing rigging, and/or mast, snapped running rigging and perhaps structural damage to the boat. Maybe not, but with a little more wind and a little bigger seas, I would have reduced sail and donned a seatbelt or a parachute. Didn't look safe to me. Oh, and just for clarification, I am much more a cruise than a racer. So that is just my, "Don't risk my wife and children.", frame of mind. Offshore racers, probably have different priorities.
I am new to sailing , just took a recent interest in it. This has been one of the things that has been puzzling me too. It defies logic? Like my mind tells me , i want the boat to rise above the sea , not go into it. I am shocked , in this video , i can see the boat literally "digging" itself into the ocean. Surely this is not something I want to do. but how is it that sailors can accept this , when not going under is the single most important thing in sailing?
This boats designed to be pushed hard with its bow down. Ever sailed a lengthy performance cat offshore? Its a wet ride. Your always cresting waves and the bow is almost always stuck in the back of the next wave.
I disagree, that is an oversimplification of how buoyancy forward impacts sailing performance. You think longer or fuller bow sections would make this boat faster, or both?. Watching the motion through the water I would say he nailed it.
I hear what your saying about buoyancy in the bows but it’s a fine balance between having enough buoyancy but not having too much surface area that pulls the bow down when it does go under. Those fine bows allow them to break back up through the surface as quickly as possible. A more flared bow would indeed give more resistance to driving under but equally more resistance to shedding water and breaking back up through. To me that kind of squished cigar shape is perfect for getting the best out of both buoyancy and water shedding.
@@garviere Not only that, she's hard pressed due to the amount of canvas carrying the centre of effort way high and forward because they are _RACING!_ Surprised there isn't the usual mono-rail crowd crowing about the whole "imminent capsize" risk!
@@garviere Also explains why some idiots on the interweb couldn't simply ask about the added length rather than directly accusing the boat owners and crew... that they don't even know the length of their own yacht... WTF?
@@Artiz... I hear you but I don’t think people are criticising the crew and owner but thinking that a third party may have been responsible for putting the video up as is often the case on YT and as the boat was well known as a 78’ it seemed like someone hijacked the video and got the length wrong. I did look for other videos myself and the ones I found sited it as 78’ (obviously pre extension) so I can understand the assumptions that have been made.
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Amazing drone footage of a remarkable racing cat... much thanks guys!
AWESOME vessel and footage! Thanks.
Incredible footage and even more incredible commentary. I love the energy analogies, sailing "hot" you might be gathering speed but you're losing "energy" especially if you're not turning that speed into downwind surfs. It would be an absolute dream to helm a boat like this in conditions like this!
Until you get hit with a rogue wave' or similar random situations, and you're struggling to get to the surface...
@@Devo491 the risk everyone takes when sailing - nature of the beast, thankfully its rare as shit
That makes as much sense as buying a catamaran.
We all have experience with shit every day...@@solaireastora5394
Fantastic footage! Amazing to watch, can't imagine being there!!
Great explanation/evocation.
beautifull video of information and entertainment
You’re living the G life on one of these.
Wow. Looks like a cross between a superhero cartoon and science fiction CGI
Her bow is stuffing too many waves for my comfort. I can’t imagine hitting a big rogue and the 1/2 the boat is underwater in seconds.
they are racing tbf
thats what its built for
You go through fast or hoby over slow.
Looks like a submarine for some of that footage. 😱
what an amazing boat
***I Know nothing must about boats,,,, but know this is beautiful
Nigel Irens is realy a great yacht designer !
Yeah, he's a GENT and a _SCHOLAR!_
Wish I was there did the same thing on a 48 cat across the tasman.
ridiculuous numbers high pressure 6 12 metres wind.
Yiu brought back the memories.
while sailing down to the canaries i wondered if it would be possible to design a boat to run at the same speed as the waves so you could catch a big one and ride it all the way across the atlantic... would be fun...
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Amazing vid! Thanks for sharing.
Is this a boat essentially a lengthened version of the Gunboat 78? (with the added length at the transoms) - and dual outboard helm stations? Where was she built? Same builder as the Gb78 "My Cat"?
Same architect - Nigel Irens, she was launched while Gunboat were still trying to get their act together. Green Marine in England built her and she was 78 originally, they had issues with the rig - mast loss offshore and then extended the transoms.
It’s to front heavy or designed like it looks to front heavy.
_WRONG!_
Eloquent guy
my god!
What is v and G? We’re not all ocean racers!!!
VMG is velocity made good. Basically the speed towards your destination (in contrast to boat speed when you are not going directly towards your destination)
Not a "race boat". It's a heavy luxury yacht that races.
I am certainly no expert but I would have been a lot more comfortable with more flotation in the bows of the hulls. In slightly heavier seas it looks as though the bows could bury themselves in the forward wave, resulting in a sudden stop with the stern being lifted by a following wave plus the wind in the sails, resulting in, at worst, a forward flip, or less catastrophically, broken standing rigging, and/or mast, snapped running rigging and perhaps structural damage to the boat. Maybe not, but with a little more wind and a little bigger seas, I would have reduced sail and donned a seatbelt or a parachute. Didn't look safe to me.
Oh, and just for clarification, I am much more a cruise than a racer. So that is just my, "Don't risk my wife and children.", frame of mind. Offshore racers, probably have different priorities.
I am new to sailing , just took a recent interest in it. This has been one of the things that has been puzzling me too. It defies logic? Like my mind tells me , i want the boat to rise above the sea , not go into it. I am shocked , in this video , i can see the boat literally "digging" itself into the ocean. Surely this is not something I want to do. but how is it that sailors can accept this , when not going under is the single most important thing in sailing?
It doesn't look like it weighs 32 tons.
Nice Boat! but sometimes looks like it can make a Nosedive ... Like 600
be careful, letting that lee bow go under water. At 20+ kts the boat will cartwheel.
Sure looks low on the bow. I would be afraid she would pitchpole.
Too much pressure on the bow. Trim the foresails!
This boats designed to be pushed hard with its bow down. Ever sailed a lengthy performance cat offshore? Its a wet ride. Your always cresting waves and the bow is almost always stuck in the back of the next wave.
_Allegra is SEVENTY ~ EIGHT feet!_
Thank you for your interest in the RORC Transatlantic Race. The original boat was 78' . Allegra was extended to 84'
@@RORCRacing I (obviously) had no idea - Remember her launch and the subsequent rig failure etc. _Thanks!_
Props to the drone pilot, by the way.
Not enough buoyancy in its bows. Sea state is probably under 5 ft and water is hitting the windshield. She is a sled though.
I agree.
wave piercing!
I disagree, that is an oversimplification of how buoyancy forward impacts sailing performance. You think longer or fuller bow sections would make this boat faster, or both?. Watching the motion through the water I would say he nailed it.
I hear what your saying about buoyancy in the bows but it’s a fine balance between having enough buoyancy but not having too much surface area that pulls the bow down when it does go under.
Those fine bows allow them to break back up through the surface as quickly as possible. A more flared bow would indeed give more resistance to driving under but equally more resistance to shedding water and breaking back up through. To me that kind of squished cigar shape is perfect for getting the best out of both buoyancy and water shedding.
@@garviere Not only that, she's hard pressed due to the amount of canvas carrying the centre of effort way high and forward because they are _RACING!_
Surprised there isn't the usual mono-rail crowd crowing about the whole "imminent capsize" risk!
This is 78 feet not 84!!
Thank you for your interest in the RORC Transatlantic Race. The original boat was 78' . Allegra was extended to 84'
@@RORCRacing That explains the disparity between different videos etc! Thanks for clearing that up. So where was the 6’ added?
@@garviere Also explains why some idiots on the interweb couldn't simply ask about the added length rather than directly accusing the boat owners and crew... that they don't even know the length of their own yacht... WTF?
@@Artiz... I hear you but I don’t think people are criticising the crew and owner but thinking that a third party may have been responsible for putting the video up as is often the case on YT and as the boat was well known as a 78’ it seemed like someone hijacked the video and got the length wrong. I did look for other videos myself and the ones I found sited it as 78’ (obviously pre extension) so I can understand the assumptions that have been made.
funny how's there never any black people sailing these.
_Funny how - like a CLOWN?_ Why black? What about Eskimo, Nepalese or Tibetans?
Whatsapp if she capsizes ?. .. no keel, and very big sail surface....
That's right, as designed to do, I presume.
Yeah, WhatsApp? 😂
Then they’ll call for help and wait.🤷🏻♂️ Stay with the vessel as long as possible.