Priesthood Is Not What You Think
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Todd McLauchlin is back for a deep-dive conversation on the priesthood!
- What is the Priesthood?
- The Ordinances of the Priesthood
- Being Invited Into The Order
- The Priesthood In The Temple
- Temple Marriages Are Part Of The Order and Doctrine Of Christ
- Women And The Priesthood
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The other day, in the temple, a beautiful lady pointed out to me; that when one participates in the prayer circle, we literally turn our backs to the ways of the world as a group.
My favorite part of temple worship❤
What does that mean
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And you turn and face the men representing the Holy Ghost, which represents the Lord, with One Heart and One Mind. This is what makes the prayer extremely powerful.
I loved this episode! I am going to rewatch. So much in it! Thank you so much.😊
When I worked for the church full time, I directed and filmed a "mormon message", now called "inspirational messages". The video is called Wrong Roads. In that video I filmed Elder Holland in his office and he said "I have certain knowledge.......perfect knowledge...... that God loves us." I remember filming that and it was powerful. In my head I remember saying "oh, that has to make it into the final cut of the video". I love how he paused and then clarified that he has perfect knowledge that God loves us.
Since then I've been seeking this perfect knowledge.
I used that video on my mission often
Oh cool! Fun fact: the truck we used in the video was the actual truck Elder Holland and his son used on there adventure that day.
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Thank you so much! I am serving as a primary President at the moment. Being the mother of two boys has really made me see how society treats boys and become more aware that our boys need more structure and support today. I have a daughter and feel comfortable that there is great support for her but see a lack of that support with my boys.
I have been listening to different discussions on the priesthood and men. Our senior primary is mostly boys and I feel strongly we need to shift how we talk with them and how to connect with them to help them understand how to feel the spirit to gain a testimony. I have felt the guidance of the spirit a lot on this. We have all men teachers (not completely planned, just worked out that way)
I am writing too much.
To shorten this, I just feel a great deal of inspiration on how I need to move forward in my calling to reach out to the boys we have.
It sounds like you are being inspired by the Spirit on this. Boys definitely need a lot of support that is generally lacking in society at large.
Check out Elder Renlund's book Melchizedek Priesthood, it's a different perspective than most of us grew up with.
Our former choister in primary was our now bishop. He was so good and fun. Like a fun, dad! I'm glad he's our bishop but I agree men need to be appreciated and revered.
I think it is difficult for boys because there is a lot of confusing things going on in the world. Also if you are divorced that makes it difficult as well. It's not their fault, but some in the church treat them badly because of that. We can find ways to be supportive of them if we ask for God's help. I think it's tough for all our youth, male of female to find support. It's getting to the end. I ❤would not want to grow up in these times! God bless them 24/7! ❤❤❤
Thank you so much for your comment!!
That broken heart analogy made me think of soil. You break ground on soil. Which means you loosen it to prepare it for another purpose, either a new building or to farm. It is a preparatory heart
As an ordinance worker, I have the priesthood and use it to facilitate the ordinances in the temple. I have learned through my experience that it assists me to serve... and as I have had the experiences of leadership in the temple it is sweet because I served both the patrons and the other workers and because of my service I have learned of the mysteries of God as I have sought him and seeked understanding in his holy house.
The Melchizedek priesthood is such a blessing. The power to bless the sick and afflicted have brought miracles that our family has seen.
46:03 I had never thought of that idea of every knee bowing because they become aware of the Savior’s sacrifice. That was so powerful.
And its better to bow willingly, rather than being humbled to bow from stress and pressure of not living the gospel.
I felt the same. Such a powerful anr insightful way to think about it. ❤
Thank you for highlighting that
Hopefully our children will be strengthened seeing sacrifice of their parents holding fast
This is helpfully deep for me..will need ti watch it again. Thx both of you teachers
We would LOVE slides to follow up on and expand our understanding of these teachings! Please get this brother back again to do that! 😊
What a treat this was for me today guys. Two of my favorite men sharing vital truths with everyone. I especially loved the contrast between the "dominance " and the "condescension" hierarchies. The only way for any of us saints to built Zion within ourselves and hence the place Zion that we are hopefully striving for, is to understand, internalize and practice the sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit. May the Lord continue to prosper both of you in your individual ministries as builders of Zion!
this may be the 5th time i've watched this discussion. it's so beautiful to see someone like Todd express the kind of love for other people that we believe God has for us.
Greg, I like how you equated endowment with gaining new knowledge.
When the prayer circle opens the windows of heaven, those spiritually prepared can be clothed upon from the light garment lost in the Garden. They receive a many-layered gift.
A study of these gifts shows they are the same substance due to their identical frequency and vibration. That light garment is; being clothed upon with charity, the exact frequency as knowledge, truth, and PRIESTHOOD. They are the same.
According to physics, when two things with the same frequency become atuned, a door/veil opens that we can pass through. We are protected by that light garment so we qualify to return to the presence of the Father symbolized by the Celestial Room.
Our priesthood light garment is drawn to it's like (frequency), the veil, where we go for further light and knowledge. We orbit (ordained) around the Celestial Room. Jointly, our light garments unite into a wedding canopy that covers all who enter into the Celestial Room, the united Bride prepared to be of one heart with the Bridegroom.
I love this explanation! ❤
Tremendously illuminating thx
I have understood that as an endowed woman and a creator of children, I have the priesthood already. What greater power can you have than to create children in your own body? I look forward to being with my soul mate someday and we will reign together.
Thank you for the wonderful discussion! This was powerful!
I loved your discussion of a broken/soft heart vs a hardened heart. You tied murmuring and hardness of heart together, and this is key. Another way to think of a hardened heart is like clay that is hardened and no longer moldable and shapable. God desires to reshape our hearts such that our understandings, inclinations, and desires are patterned after His. A hardened heart can't be molded; instead we seek to shape God in our image rather than being shaped and molded into His image in our countenance.
A hardened heart leads to murmuring. The common means of murmuring we see in our church family today is not limited to disobedience, but includes the desire to: 1. rewrite history according to our liking 2. reinterpret scripture to fit our modern narrative which has been shaped by the philosophies of men (and women), and 3. restructure the ordinances and hierarchies to align with that new narrative. The push to ordain women to priesthood offices is just one such example of this, but virtually all of the present difficulties you outline in your wonderful podcast fit within this framework.
Thank you again for another awesome podcast!
The great thing about the gospel and repentance is that is hardened heart can be softened and changed. Maybe then it can be like a steel sword which has the ability to cause great damage, even death yet can be melted, added to and reshaped.
The historic Manti Utah temple just opened to be viewed before rededication. I like how in this pioneer temple, as you are participating in the endownment ceremony, you actually get up and walk up stairs and progress upward towards God. It helps doing this and realizing the actual progression we are to be making. They kept the progression in this temple which is absolutely amazing!! I think most the time when we just watch the film and don’t move, people are missing that bit of information.
I wish they would teach this in church, or at least in Priesthood meeting. Todd knows things. This is all in the scriptures, but it takes revelation to be able to understand all of this and comprehend it into one complete whole. It was members like Todd who taught me much of this as a student at BYU. It set me on a lifelong quest to really know and understand the Gospel, seek personal revelation, and set out on the path that Todd is describing.
The washings and anointings are different for the brethren and the sisters, as Todd described. He is right on. If this is not "delicious" to you, pray about it and receive your own revelation. I part-way agree with Todd that the oath and covenant of the Priesthood is the covenants of the temple Endowment. I believe the oath and covenant happens between you and the Lord. Maybe this is what he means by the "actual endowment".
I can tell by what he says and how he says it that he is in communion with the Lord as he speaks. Pay attention, people, he is a servant of the Lord and he is doing what servants do. The thing that would make him the happiest and make the Lord happiest is for you to come to the Lord, yourself, with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, and ask the Lord to help you understand and live these things. "Blessed are they who hunger and seek after righteousness, for they shall be filled with the Holy Ghost".
They say that Jesus actually died of a broken heart, thus the blood in the fluids that spilled out when he was pierced by the sword. What better way to show Him our sincerity than to come to Him also with a broken heart because we have traveled the same path of sacrifice for others.
I've often wondered, and wonder if you know, what the difference of one person receiving a washing and an anointing verses washings and anointings.
Deeper and deeper..
MORE OF THIS. This is deep yet based on doctrine. I love that we are trying to learn about the Preisthood power. I think it is one of the most misunderstood principles in the church by both men and women.
Powerful! I'm going to listen again and take notes next time! This is the best kind of content!
Glad you enjoyed it!
It was great, but I prefer the more political episodes.
I remember when I was 8 years old the power of the Holy Ghost entering my heart when my father said “Receive the Holy Ghost”. I knew the power of God and it was real. Receiving it at your confirmation is possible.
I remember a similar experience. I had the desire for it. I wanted to belong to God. That's enough to receive. I can see how this still applies to what Todd is saying about that ordinance.
I think the point is that it’s not necessarily a given that they happen at the same time. But that’s cool that you remember feeling it happen! I remember sitting in my confirmation and that my brother was the voice and my dad was part of the circle, but not much else about my confirmation. I’ve heard you can pray to have memories and experiences restored. Perhaps I shall do that!
This is true, but it is just the beginning.
I agree with your assessment. Receiving the Holy Ghost at confirmation is possible. What you do beforehand can play a big part in that. As for myself I received knowledge of the truthfulness and validity of the ordinances in the temple before and during the receiving of those ordinances. Previous to my mission I had to repent before I could go and was blessed for doing so.
What if I had not repented and lied to the stake president and bishop and just went on my mission anyways? I will answer that I would not have received the revelation in the temple that I did nor come to the knowledge that I came to. I would have gone through the temple, but it would not have gone through me. I would of received things which I had not prepared to received. I might of thought of the temple as evil or strange because I wouldn't have had my eyes open by the light of understanding.
Repentance acts as a catalyst to further light and knowledge. Joseph Smith prayed for forgiveness and he was forgiven. He beheld the face of the Father and the Son.
@@MegaJohn144 sure. But it’s also impossible to be perfect in this life. In order to know we have a pure heart it must be tested. And only when it is tested, and we are willing to lay down our life for righteousness sake is it purified.
This was delicious to me. I have been mulling over a phrase for a few weeks now that this has helped me to gain more understanding about.
Stewardship over ownership.
We don't have any ownership when it comes to the priesthood or any of our temporal blessings, we are merely stewards, and can have our stewardship revoked if we and unworthy of the trust.
"These four words-'Receive the Holy Ghost'-are not a passive pronouncement; rather, they constitute a priesthood injunction-an authoritative admonition to act and not simply to be acted upon." David A. Bednar
The first principle of the gospel is faith in Jesus Christ, it is a principle of action and power. It would be silly to believe every member is experiencing the intended fruits of the gospel "just because" of an ordinance / membership.
I so appreciated Todd’s perspective and insightful points…and especially the humble spirit with which he shared them. WOW, so much truth is now flooding the earth! Thanks to both of you!
I love Todd's tender hearted, powerful testimony. I love the depth of his testimony that poured out, and his eagerness to share what he understands. Todd, thank you !!!
I absolutely loved this. I've listened to it twice, constantly backing it up many many times trying to make sure i heard and understood what was being taught. As a female, i have wondered many times why i did not understand the priesthood. I actually feel most of us don't really understand the priesthood, however, it seems there are those that seems to understand more and are helping people like me to figure it out. Thank you so much. I have always wanted to understand the mysteries of God.
I agree with Todd 100%. Too many people in the church are too focused on getting ordinaces instead of trying harder to live in line with Christ and seeking to understand what they are taught. The baptism by fire is one of the most misunderstood things in the church. Read from the last chapter of Luke through the end of Acts 2. The baptism by fire comes AFTER recieving the gift of the Holy Ghost. It comes through like a rushing wind and results in the manifestation of the power of God in an undeniable way. The baptism by fire is not an ordinance but an internal and external alignment with the will of God.
"Too many people in the church are too focused on getting ordinaces"
Too many? Is there a right and proper number? Too focused? Perhaps dial it back to a 7.
@@thomasmaughan4798 Not sure what you're saying. My point: does participating in ordinances you don't understand do anything for you?
@@prezp00nage24 "does participating in ordinances you don't understand do anything for you?"
It might. I suspect that no one fully understands the ordinances at the time; only later develop an understanding. Baptism is a good example. How many young people (or for more conventional Christians, babies) understand it is a metaphor for Christ being buried and resurrected?
It is certainly preferred that people have a reasonably good sense of the ordinances BEFORE participating in an ordinance. But as with any contract, if a party to the contract does not, and perhaps cannot, understand the terms; then at law such contract is not usually binding.
But even then, a "ticket is punched" and that's probably good for something. Among Utanians the big ticket is "RM", returned missionary. Whether it did anything for you (or anyone else) almost does not matter; what matters is the ticket is punched but that is a social thing, has nothing to do with God so far as I know.
Truly one of the most amazing videos I’ve ever watched. So many thoughts and feelings yet I’m at a loss for words.
Todd has many presentations and discussions with various channels on YT. Also, his own channel is called Shattering Triangles. There's more where this came from my brother
What a beautiful video about the priesthood and sacrifice. Every priesthood holder should hear these concepts. Great conversation as always. Thanks for making these videos Greg. They mean a lot to members like myself who live in the "mission field" where the church is small and you don't always get these kind of insights at a local and ward level. Nevermind the language barrier in Spain 😅🙏
I like Brother McLauchlin thoughts about the Priesthood as an order. Wonderful!!!
I live in a more liberal city in the USA. A woman in our congregation got up and bore a testimony that she hopes the women will be, 'given the priesthood' before she dies'. Not to get into semantics but she should have said or what I believe she meant was, 'ordained to the priesthood to receive priesthood keys to be able to administer in the priesthood'. She is someone who I believe does not actually understand what our religion believes but rather tries to bring the world social justice into our religion. That said, since her testimony, I have been trying to think of how to teach priesthood to our congregation in a loving way in which both sexes can feel the love and assurance that currently our roles are equal. I appreciated this conversation you posted.
I have been thinking a lot about creation and how God used the priesthood to create. (I think a lot more needs to be revealed in this area) Sisters are the only ones who have the ability to create in a procreative manner with God. Is not that also priesthood? Power of God delegated to women? To quote M Russell Ballard a woman cannot procreate without a man and a man cannot administer the priesthood with out a woman.' It is a symbiotic relationship. I believe both creation and administration are powers within the priesthood realm. For men to Administer in the priesthood it is very constrained process and it is an oath and covenant that men must take. Many are called but few are chosen, why? Because 121: 34-40. Men are different and by these scriptures less reliable to fulfill God's purpose's. Woman abilities are not as constrained to operate in their priesthood powers of creation. (True some women may have difficulties getting pregnant and etc. but I do not think that is from God but rather ailments from life and genetics) It has been given freely to them from God if they are members of religion or not. Also, God trusts them fully to fulfill that duty whether they are righteous or not. And I think both sexes should take seriously the commandments to multiply and replenish and also to avoid all lasciviousness, fornication etc etc. to avoid condemnation for mistreating that priesthood power. Just like men and their wives should avoid mistreating the administration of priesthood power.
Also, another note about using these types of priesthood powers. Women when sorrowing through the burden of pregnancy have a greater love for the child than I would say a Father does. A direct blessing women inherit by bring forth more children into this world is being able to love their neighbor. For a man to also have the blessing of loving their posterity and their neighbor is by exercising their priesthood to sorrow with their hands (provide), serve others and administer to their wife and children. If women had the priesthood of creation and the ordination to administer to their children what need would a man have to do anything? Why would he care to even marry if he is not able to be 'called to the task' of fatherhood and being an administer in the priesthood?
Yes I also think it noteworthy that woman are given the priesthood in the temple and administer blessings in the temple.
Excellent comment
In my opinion, women that lust after priesthood see it as power, authority and dominion; but of course, any man that sees it the same way, "amen to the priesthood of that man".
As temple ordinance workers we women are given the power to administer priesthood ordinances in the temple is how I interpret it specifically. Right Todd?
Yes some strident female voices do demand so-called "equal rights" in that respect for the wrong reasons, although personally I am very relieved to not have anything more on our plates. I am worried that our brethren do feel slighted in different respects. Hence their value in attaining, holding and administering priesthood blessings and ordinances to benefit all around is inestimable. I recall walking into the stadium of the Provo MTC as a new Rome Italy missionary and convert of 18 months to be bowled over by the power surge I felt from so many worthy priesthood and an apostle present, as never felt since. I'm now 65.5 years young!
This was like a wonderful slow dance with truth!! That part in regards to broken heart, contrite spirit, hard heart, and the KNOWLEDGE of God, resonated deeply. Thank you!
You are welcome
Todd, I read your ‘priesthood is an order’ essays years ago. I printed them out so I could study them and read several out loud to my husband. So glad to see Greg have you on to explain it to more people.
Your explaining of where to find the actual oath and covenant of the priesthood, as anyone who really studies D&C 84 will know it’s not actually in there, is so helpful! Thank you for the insight. I was wondering where to find it and I’m a woman who searches for these things because I know it is not fully obtained except through the marriage covenant to my husband. So grateful for everything I hear and read from you.
Todd , prayers for you brother . Sounds like might be going through some hard times . We’ve all been there . This verse gives me comfort
“ Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:”
Rom 5:1
I love these type of discussions! So powerful! I wish we'd talk about these type of things in Elder's Quorum more often. Big fan of you both!
I totally agree…however most people aren’t familiar enough with scripture or prepared enough for class to have discussions like this in elders quorum.
As an EQ president one thing I was thinking is finding an interest in the quorum to start a “Bible study” small group of elders to talk doctrine.
Talk with your bishop or EQ president and see if that’s something you or our president can start.
@@yippiecalle421I believe in general conference when explaining the Come Follow Me program the brethren taught that we need no permission to meet as groups to do this. Just do it.
Look at Elder D. Todd Christofferson's talk in last conference "The Sealing Power" and how Elijah's sealing power fits into what you are discussing. It's all about validation of the ordinances performed
It's amazing that you can find this level of knowledge and content on TH-cam! Loved the video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you. Loved the discussion. I have been learning these things and love to hear it presented in different ways. It’s been line upon line. It’s good to get a fuller understanding of the Priesthood to build on your foundational understanding of Jesus Christ. Our path to ascension is clear when the Savior himself teaches us ‘The Way’. I appreciate your discussion as a further exploration and clarification of beautiful doctrines of the Holy Priesthood. Again, thank you both for your faith and sacrifice to share with us your testimony.
Such great stuff! When do we get the "longer conversations "?😊 Such a treat to listen to the two of you❤
Great discussion. The temple, in its rich symbolism, is a consistent set of symbols that represent and drive us to Christ and away from the great and spacious building. Well done.
I absolutely loved this episode. I feel the spirit strongly confirming to me certain points of truth. Thank you!
~ 54:00 one thing missing here that is interesting to understand it's that the lesser priesthood can be had by right, while the greater is obtained by blessing, and the fullness by divine manifestation.
Wonderful synopsis thx
What an outstanding discussion! Thank you for inviting this good brother and brother Butler. My favorite videos you have done!
Great interview, I would like to see another video with him for sure
Thank you so much for this discussion. It was exactly what I needed to listen❤️. Yes, we truly need to come to Christ. We can strengthen each other. Thanks Greg for all you do. You may not know but you bless many lives. Again, thank you so much! ❤️
This was such a great discussion, so thought provoking, I wish you guys could have gone on for hours more.
Thank you so much for this conversation. It has added depth to the phrase found in Obadiah: “Saviors on Mount Zion”.
Thank you for this discussion! For the honesty and emotion that you shared. My heart is full as I think of our opportunities and responsibilities in these days. We have so much to accomplish and we need each other and especially people like you who are learning and sharing the truths of the Gospel.
This was such a great discussion! I’ve already listened to it twice and I’m sure I will again. So much to unpack!! I love love love it!!
By far one of your best shows!! Love Todd and all his knowledge of things spiritual.
Love Todd! He's taught me so much
Thank you both for a wonderful conversation. So many insights and encouragement to always be striving to gain greater understanding.
Thank you for all these Wonderful Precepts. The whole purpose of all these Blessings - the Restoration, the Priesthood, Gospel etc is to Help us Love the Lord thy God with All Thine Heart Soul Mind and Might.
When you Love Heavenly, the World is Totally Different Place. Nothing Matters. Then you realize there Us No Life, There Is Only God …
I don't think women need to receive the priesthood by the laying on of hands.
3 days before varsity football practice started my freshman year in high school I got a hip point. I could barely walk. I stopped by my 2nd grade teacher's house to say hi.
I had attended Trinity Lutheran School.
During the visit I mentioned the injury. She laid her hands on me in the name of Jesus Christ.
The injury disappeared and I was a starter the whole season.
Months later she asked me how the blessing went. I had forgotten all about it.
I turn 73 tomorrow. So far so good.
You are right! we live below what we could be doing. There are signs that follow the believers: Casting out devils, healing the sick, speaking in tongues, poison won't harm, snakes not a problem.
It reminds me of the time the apostles came to Jesus reporting a man not affiliated with them was casting out devil's in Jesus' name. He taught them, they who are not against me are for me. Something along those lines. I think more people can access the power of God and perform miracles through faith on the Lord Jesus Christ than we know or are willing to believe.@@teinelaume
Amen!
Bednar gives a great talk about the topic of being chosen called "put on thy strength o zion"
First time ive heard the preisthood as an irder. This us what my Dad always said, taught us. So im loving this because ive nit heard this since a kud from my dad and im almost 70 yrs old ! This podcast is very special to me!
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So many great thoughts to learn from and ponder in this interview.
Great Spirit.
I could listen to you and Todd for days.
More of this Please and Thank You 🎉
All ordnances in the are based on our faithfulness. The below are meant to be followed so we can become faithful.
Law of Obedience, which includes striving to keep God’s commandments.
Law of Sacrifice, which means doing all we can to support the Lord’s work and repenting with a broken heart and contrite spirit.
Law of the Gospel, which is the higher law that He taught while He was on the earth.
Law of Chastity, which means that we have sexual relations only with the person to whom we are legally and lawfully wedded according to God’s law. "I had a stake president say that this means no sexual relations with yourself."
Law of Consecration, which means dedicating our time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed us to building up Jesus Christ’s Church on the earth.
Wow. Amazing content. Eye opening and very insightful. Thank you so much for sharing this discussion. God bless you both.
Wonderful and inspiring discussion. Thank you!
I remember asking my dad as a young woman why women didn't have the priesthood after hearing that some complained about it. He said that for one thing it is a learning tool to help men learn service and sacrifice as these things come natural to women as they bare and nurture children. When going through the temple the first time you do get the experience of women using their priesthood. Women have the priesthood it is that they do not need to use it unless it is truly necessary. ❤
When we serve in the Temple we witness the sisters using Priesthood to administer the ordinances. However, this is very limited to Temple settings only. The sisters who are set apart are "authorized " to use Priesthood but they are not ordained. Any calling in the church performed by a sister is using Priesthood without being ordained. We need to understand that there is a difference between being "authorized to use Priesthood " vs being ordained. Sisters do not hold Priesthood, they access it through service (both in the Temple and in callings), but my understanding is you do not hold Priesthood unless you are ordained, which is not currently what we do in the church.
Amen and amen. Thank you so much for this topic. I could not put enough words to convey the Spirit I felt about this discussion. Love all my beloved brothers in Christ. And thank you.
Always enjoy your presentations, Greg. Thank you! And thank you, Todd, for your insights!
Glad you like them!
Very insightful and thought-provoking. Thank you!
Excellent! I need more of this conversation!
Beautiful and interesting conversation. Thanks for sharing
I came back again to learn more~ thanks for the awesome knowledge.
Great show Brothers !
Thank you!
Beautiful. Thank you for following light to additional light and sharing it with us on our path to Christ.
Just listening to this a second time and have gotten even more out of it. I think I will have to revisit this discussion many more times to see even more. Wow. thanks again so much for this discussion.
Thank you. This is the single most profound package of knowledge and enlightenment I have heard short of a personal revelation.
Conversations are dogwood and very helpful as we all seek better understanding. Depending on our level of righteousness and level of knowledge we grow in our understanding.
A portion of this was beyond my understanding and a bit complicated.
I always believe that we are counseled to “keep it simple”. ❤
Wonderful discussion, thanks!
Many are called but few are chosen can be simply explained that the power is in us as agents that can choose a "will", whether it be Gods will or our own. Anyone can be called. Ive witnessed the ugliness of pride and ego drip like sweat from many called to leadership. But they weren't chosen. To become chosen is the developmental process of learning to let ones will (of the natural man) be swallowed up in the will of the Savior (and consequently the father) so that one has repeatedly sought to develop aspects of godliness. You know if you are chosen because the Spirit will be with you because you go with and seek after the Spirit. Revelation over oneself and ones stewardship occurs. Suddenly a leader will recognize and follow promptings. The things they are prompted to say will actually help people spiritually rather than speaking from ones will (devoid of the Spirit) thus potentially damning and harming the recipient of false counsel. Being chosen defines whether one is acting as a shepherd with great christlike care over the sheep or whether one acts as a hireling whose not in tune with the Lord's will which translates into not caring how ones actions or words can harm the recipient lay member. To serve in leadership as a chosen servant of the lord requires seeking his will. We cannot do what he would do without revelation. I've witnessed incredible spiritual harm done by high counselors, bishopric members, and even stake presidencies. Ive also seen power and revelation, miracles and blessings poor forth from high counselors, bishoprics and stake presidencies who sought to be chosen as the Spirit of God worked through them. Thanks for this video. Well spoken. You and i both know that volumes could be written about this topic with myriads of examples.
Very good show. Thanks guys ❤
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It is through sacrifice, a broken heart and contrite spirit… that we magnify and fulfil our callings, offices, and covenants…. And in the same manner how we lead others to do the same… this is what’s resonating in my mind right now… great episode!
What beautiful and powerful insights into the priesthood . Thank you Todd McLauchlin for sharing them with us.
11:19 really think about what he said that is profound! Thank you brother.
I would posit that women have their own pristesshood. It is manifest in the sacrifices that women innately make to their husbands, children and communities better. It is manifest in the nurturing they provide as they comfort, teach and provide without commandment, exhortation or ordination because they already know that it is their calling within whatever role they occupy.
As sisters in Zion….”the errand of (ministering) angels is given to women”
Just had Elder Bednar here in California….such a forward thinking Apostle. SO amazing, ❤ him.
Thanks for spreading Truth.
Watching you from Congo B.
I love how in the Vision of the Tree of Life how it differentiates between those who partook of the Fruit and fell away being ashamed and those who partook and never fell away. Those who continually held fast to the Iron Rod, FELL DOWN and partook of the Fruit. Theirs was a journey of service, tribulation, sacrifice, endurance, meekness, etc along the covenant path, which brought them to a state of Worship and Love for the Lord for His Atonement as they partook of His Fruit.
52:30 yes! Thank you ! Love what your quest said about DC 84, i have felt this way for a long time. Also the comments about the differences of the endowment for men and women
A broken heart means what you describe, but it also means what you denied: a heart broken by betrayal. In fact, it is often by experiencing betrayal that we either harden it or soften it.
For me, a big piece of knowing God is to know how he sees others. I dont see how we can truly know Him until we can develop patients and a proper love for others. This may not be possible without the aid of His spirit. As far as i can tell, love towrds others is at the top of His hierarchy and is my biggest challenge. Perhaps it was Nephi's as well.
I have felt this same thing since my mission. We believe that prayer is the act in how we align our will with God. I think that is how we invite the Spirit to change us to become more like Christ. Moroni, in Either 12, expresses it so beautifully when he prays for us. “And it came to pass that I prayed unto the Lord that he would give unto the Gentiles grace, that they might have charity.”
Our goal should pray for our fellow man, that they may have grace and that grace leads to charity, or the pure love of Christ
So, I found Todd's take about the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood not being in D&C 84, but that it is actually the endowment a very interesting take. I won't corroborate or reject the claim personally (not that I have much authority to do so anyway), but I will say that I noticed a strong correlation/connection between the two.
One small example was that I decided to brush up on the covenants I have made in my life earlier this year. One of the first ones I thought of at the time was the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood. Originally, I was considering it from the perspective of "What exactly is the Oath and Covenant of the Priesthood?". After reading that section, I came away feeling a need/urgency to prepare my family to "behold the face of God" (see v23).
I coincidentally went to the temple the next night, and had a really cool experience. I was hoping to see a best friend of mine that night (I knew he was working that shift), but I didn't see him and I felt a bit sad about it. However, there was a moment (Just out of caution, I'm choosing my words carefully, but anyone familiar with the endowment would know the moment), where I could hear the voice of someone I couldn't see, and in that moment I knew exactly who it was--it was my friend. We got to embrace and then chat afterwards, and it was a beautiful experience for me. D&C 84:63 came to mind at the time, "ye are my friends". I couldn't help imagining the experience of returning beyond the veil of this life, and beholding the face of God as someone we know personally, and deeply, and would immediately recognize as our "best friend".
The experience doesn't quite end there. Another day passed by, and I decided to reread D&C 84 and got stuck on that v23 again feeling this urge/need to prepare my family to "behold the face of God", but feeling perplexed as to how. I got down on my knees, started praying about it wondering how I could accomplish what I'd felt prompted to do. Almost immediately, the thought popped into my mind to "prepare them to go to the temple". I came to the conclusion that true worshipful preparation to go to the temple is equivalent to preparing to "behold the face of God".
To tie everything up - It seemed to me that my responsibility as a Priesthood holder is to prepare my family, and those within my stewardship, to go to the temple and eventually "behold the face of God"
Great job you two
I like how you've added AI art as your thumbnails lately. It makes your content more attractive. It made me click on this video specifically. Now I've subscribed.
I appreciated your guest's since Saturday. He is right. There is so much more that our Heavenly Father is offering us than we care to even accept or look at. Why do we pay so much attention to the distractions around us when the very antidote for what we need in this life is right there for the taking? Put the stupid phone down, and dive into your scriptures!
Todd McLauchlin and David John Butler would be a MUST see podcast for sure... These 2 podcasts have changed the way I think and can't even imagine what would happen if the three of you where all in the same broadcast... All in favor say... aye... I ... eye...
Everyone wonders at what point the Melchizedek Priesthood was introduced in the Book of Mormon.
If the Tree of Life dreams were representative of the Temple Endowment, then Lehi (who had spoken with God, face to face) was at some point ordained a High Priest after the Holy Order of the Son of God. That ordination most likely occurred under the hand of Moses, who was translated.
Given the organization inherent to the Melchizedek Priesthood, even if Lehi had only the Aaronic Priesthood at his interaction with God; ordination to the Higher Priesthood would be necessary for him to administer the ordinances of Endowment.
Joseph Smith held no Priesthood when he saw the First Vision. However, he gained all power and Priesthoods necessary to be a dispensational head.
Lehi was a dispensational head.
Great. Also I think that there is some connection (women n the priesthood)between a women and her monthly blood cycle which a man doesn't have to go through.. Also the blood of childbirth or cloeness to death of sacrifice of these two things that make a possible wording difference between men n women.
i finally nearly finished learning with you brothers. but.. its the thought pattern igniting my thought pattern that has me going slowly with each principle. from God.
Brother Todd you are ours Bishop here CWic ward 😍!!
Greg, can you tell me what the anachronism DBR stands for? I always enjoy your podcasts! I appreciate how much thought and study you are willing to share with us! Thanks for all you do! I feel better prepared for eternal growth with your help!
It's not an acronym. It is a Hebrew word root for the words, "Word, Speak, Order, Holy of Holies" and more. I have an episode on it here- th-cam.com/video/nBHGClSxWOQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you!! I've heard you use it several times and have tried to understand it from the context, I finally realized I could just ask!
This was your best interview yet! 30:43, 36:08, 44:14; 46:04, 49:28, 52:20, 55:14
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Glad you like it!
Well that was awesome!
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Bruce Porter has a couple great books as well that really expounds on priesthood and temple ordinances, and ancient temples etc
Thank you for this video. I loved this conversation about the priesthood. I've always had a hard time understanding why some women feel like they need the offices of the priesthood when they already have all the blessings, along with their own essential responsibilities. I have a question, though. You didn't introduce Todd, only saying he's been on before, and I haven't been able to find that video. I looked online to see if I could find out who he is , but I haven't found anything. I'm interested to learn something about who he is and which other video you had him on before.
The law of sacrifice with a broken heart and contrite spirit is something that I needed to remember. I also think about what the lords asks us to sacrifice through promptings of the Holy Ghost. Also of note in relation to sacrifice is the example of Able vs Cain. Able sacrificed to God what he asked for vs Cain who was instructed to sacrifice something the lord didn't ask for. The results speak for themselves. Satan knew what he was doing by instructing Cain to offer an unacceptable sacrifice to God.
16:29 “pray unto me that you may be able to give the gift.” Sounds like Christ in Gethsemane. Power in the priesthood through a broken heart and a contrite spirit. The sweating of blood. Seeing Christ as the great High Priest. You just expanded these ideas for me!
I am wary of using the word "ascension" because it is used in belief systems that exclude God; people think they can ascend to a higher level of being through their own efforts. I think it is also easy for us in our efforts to "ascend" to forget to acknowledge our dependence on God for any progress we make. We can't force ascension, nor can it be allowed to become a competition. I also think that in focusing on ascension we can forget the other side of that coin: the accompanying descent into knowing good *and* evil, in subjugating our will to the Father's, and in offering the sacrifice of a broken heart and a contrite spirit. How many examples do we have of prophets experiencing theophanies but in the process being exposed to Satan's power? It is important to balance expectations and be aware of the ramifications of what we are seeking, to remember the ironies or apparent contradictions of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Luke 14: 7 ¶ And he put forth a parable to those which were bidden, when he marked how they chose out the chief rooms; saying unto them, 8 When thou art bidden of any man to a wedding, sit not down in the highest room; lest a more honourable man than thou be bidden of him; 9 And he that bade thee and him come and say to thee, Give this man place; and thou begin with shame to take the lowest room. 10 But when thou art bidden, go and sit down in the lowest room; that when he that bade thee cometh, he may say unto thee, Friend, go up higher: then shalt thou have worship in the presence of them that sit at meat with thee. 11 For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
I agree. I prefer the term ‘progression’ but I give Todd a pass because I learn so much from him.
Todd absolutely believes in a path of descending too. I think he would say that we descend to ascend. He talks about descending all the time, despite not touching upon it on this video.
(I have actually not listened to this yet, but his wife is my best friend and I can verify that he believes this.)
You wouldn't enjoy the teachings of Joseph Smith then. He uses the word ascend. Go to BYU Citation and search it out to learn more.
We can only ascend because we hind ourselves through covenant to God. I like the word ascend because one day we will be literally lifted up because Christ first was lifted up in the cross :)
Whether Todd also believes in descending is not the issue. Words are important. I don’t hear the church leaders using that terminology. I find that those who use ascension language are of a group that tends to think the church leaders are not leading properly…not all of them, but many. They also adopt other thought leaders who are using such language. It’s just an observation but a possible sign of being off center.