Inside Knowledge of Ancient Egypt, The Temple, and The Book of Abraham
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Scholar Bruce H. Porter has a wealth of knowledge and first-hand experience. We discuss what he has experienced in the temples of Egypt, how our own temple experience is found there, plus some inside baseball on the mummies, the papyri, and the Book of Abraham.
How did the ancient Egyptians get the temple rites? What is the Egyptian "Ritual Embrace?" Where exactly did the mummies and papyri used for the Book of Abraham come from?
If you like gospel knowledge, watch this.
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Did I listen to this two times? Absolutely. Will I listen to it again? Absolutely. There is so much here that makes temple worship more meaningful.
Share it out, too... hahaha, this was really exciting to my soul. I'll more than likely watch it a few times myself. 😁😇🥰
Bruce Porter is great. He has an app called seer stone which is so worth it. His books are good too.
Absolutely!!! 😂❤
You worship the temple? Are you not supposed to worship Christ? Hmm.
@Luke Temple worship means worshipping God in a ver sacred place. Jesus went there all the time.
Thank you. I've ben a member for 53 years (I'm a former Baptist minister and 85 years of age). This conversation taught me a lot and the Holy Spirit confirmed to me that it is True.
Wow, I was just wondering today if any pastor or minister ever gave up the money they were making and converted to the church.
I would have a lot of respect for any pastor 6 up the way they made money and joined the church.
Wow Bruce has blown my mind like 25 times already and I’m only 20 minutes into this video. I need to hang out with these guys!!!
Some videos are good and they make you feel good. Others are better and they make you feel better. This type of Cwic video almost always leaves me feeling enlightened. This, was enlightening. Thank you Cwic!
Very glad to hear!
I agree, friend!
Good guest!!
Invite him again?
Love this stuff! I wish I had heard of Bruce Porter before my wife and I visited Egypt. It was at the temple of Karnak that I first noticed that Egyptian religion and especially their temples were heavily influenced by God's priesthood. We found an Egyptian woman who was in front of the temple asking tourists if they wanted a cheap guide explain some things in the temple for us. When she showed us the Holy of Holies, she talked about the symbols on the walls and what they meant. I was shocked at how familiar some of those things were to me. It makes me want to go back and see more of Egypt
Why are they found in Egypt? Weren't the Egyptians pagans and not Christians.
I'm honestly wondering, not just trying to stir the pot.
@@DaGolfViking You can explain the similarities by use of a religious diffusionism theory. That the truth began somewhere (Adam and Eve) and was passed down in different ways to different peoples. Eventually these truths evolved and oral traditions became a bit messy. Some truths are lost, some truths are embellished or outright changed. but you still have a lot of the main ideas that stay preserved. A good example of this is the flood myth that is found in the belief systems of nearly every ancient civilization. The same one we find in the bible with Noah. So it is not surprising that the Egyptian religion and christian/jewish religion would have quite a bit of overlap given the proximity of their early development in the middle east.
However, if you are LDS and have read the pearl of great price (specifically the book of Abraham), you can get quite specific on where exactly this knowledge came from and why.
Abraham 1:25-27
25 Now the first government of Egypt was established by Pharaoh, the eldest son of Egyptus, the daughter of Ham, and it was after the manner of the government of Ham, which was patriarchal.
26 Pharaoh, being a righteous man, established his kingdom and judged his people wisely and justly all his days, seeking earnestly to imitate that order established by the fathers in the first generations, in the days of the first patriarchal reign, even in the reign of Adam, and also of Noah, his father, who blessed him with the blessings of the earth, and with the blessings of wisdom, but cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood.
27 Now, Pharaoh being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood, notwithstanding the Pharaohs would fain claim it from Noah, through Ham, therefore my father was led away by their idolatry;
I saw some of these things in Egyptian temples. I had an Egyptian woman who was also muslim and who knew nothing about me or my beliefs describe the meanings on the walls in the holy of holies. It was so interesting to hear her say things that I have only heard in regard to LDS temple worship. This was before I knew about any of the work done by Hugh Nibley or Bruce Porter.
My wife and I did a Mediterranean cruise back in 2010 through LDS Travel. Bruce was on that cruise and spoke about Egypt while we were at sea. Egypt was fascinating and it was such a treat to have Bruce with us. The trip of a lifetime. Greg you're in for a treat.
I had taken an institute class at USU years ago on the Pearl of Great Price and we talked a lot about how Egypt taught about the temple. I loved it so much I took the class twice. It was before I received my endowment. I loved it and it really opens your eyes to the gospel in ancient history all around you.
Christianity, the church of Jesus Christ, true religion, on earth started with Adam and Eve. Christianity is the oldest religion on earth. We latter day saints know that the gospel of Christ started in the Council of Heaven. One can also see the temple, practices, teachings, and worship can be seen once Adam and Eve left the garden in Adam ondi Ahman, and then Mesopotamia, and then Egypt. Been listening to Bruce for years, great stuff. Would love to take one of his tours. Thanks. Was wondering if you would ever have Bruce on.
I really appreciate this talk. I have always felt the gospel was in all religions in some form and Bruce explains it in such a clear manner! Thank you!
Thank you so much for this excellent presentation! Also thanks to Bruce Porter and his scholarly knowledge and his research and his sharing and how it connects and testifies so beautifully of our temples. Hope you can have him as your guest again. 😊
what books can I read to now more about this matriarch patriarch formula?
My brain is in awe. Hearing the rich detail and origins of our covenants is wonderful.
Joseph sure was a good guesser
I have watched this a couple of times today! And shared it with several people. This was fascinating! Thank you!! I can only imagine that this pod cast just scratched the surface. What an incredible and enlightening experience it would be to go on Mr. Porter's tour of the Nile/Egypt!!!
Thank you for having Bruce on your show. This was fascinating!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you, Greg, for having Bruce on. It was so uplifting and faith promoting. How incredible is our temple Endowmentr. This was so faith promoting for me. I have been struggling lately and was the medicine I needed. Thank you again. I have no words to tell you how grateful I am for this presentation. God Bless!!
I'm 68 and have been a church member my entire life. I started having a fascination with Egypt back in the mid 1990's. I could never get enough and I found myself always looking for the connections between church doctrine and what had been discovered in Egypt. I always found it humorous for the expert Egyptologists in their documentaries to try and explain all the religious symbology found at these sites, especially the pyramids. If you look at it with the eye of church doctrine and temple worship its obvious what all of this was for. And what the Egyptians wanted to accomplish.
Man, how fun I'm jelly. What a religion we have that Joseph literally pulled out of his hat. I love it with all my heart.
NOT OUT OF A HAT.
I love listening to Brother Porter! Thanks Greg ♥️
Bruce is great. I have the great privilege to tap into his mind from time to time.
Where else can I hear him?
@@tiffanyseavy565 www.youtube.com/@bruceporter6457/playlists
I could listen to hours of this stuff
Me too!
Me too and I drive a lot so I get to 😂! I love this stuff.
Same!
Mind blown!!!! I've listened three times and getting ready for a fourth!!! So fascinating!!! Thank you Greg!!! And Bruce!!! ❤❤❤
More Bruce Porter interviews!!!!
This is AWESOME!
It even explains ritual burials and the use of headstones.
Wow. I’m going to have to listen to this a second (and maybe third) time! What a wealth of knowledge!
We joined Bruce Porter on a church history tour 2 years ago. He is amazingly educated about the gospel. What a trip yours will be!
Awesome and mindblowing in the best way! By the way, hey Greg, you promised an episode about the British royal coronation, remember? Looking forward to that one now that it actually has taken place. Cheers from Sweden!
Coming!
I don't know what to say but just AWESOME!
Wonderful. Thank you. I was in Egypt almost 45 years ago. This was illuminating.
Listening to it for the third time. Shared with a ton of friends and family!
Thank you so very much for this episode, and to you both. Just finished listening for the third time. Fingers crossed you will do more on this subject.
For sure.
Wow. All I can say is "thank you". Heavenly Father knows. =)
These are the days of the restorations of all things. The last of Abraham's children born on this planet are the first to receive all thing. The first ones will be last to receive their temple ordinances. Searching out our dead is so meaningful.
One of my all-time favorite episodes! Thank you!
More on this topic this week with Bruce!
THIS. IS. AWESOME.
We have friends whose friends (non lds at the time) were married in India during which the ceremony was videotaped. They offered our friends to watch their wedding video .. which they did; and were amazed that the India wedding ceremony was exactly as our lds temple ceremony with one exception the their whole body was washed with oil .... hmm .. is that why some people from India often bathe in oil? Fantastic episode !!!
Great show! Very inspiring, and I felt a connection with Adam and Eve!
Super interesting title. Had to click right away.
Thanks for the excellent faith promoting content, Greg!
This is amazing stuff. I'll be listening again. Great episode.
I love Bruce Porter. He is a scholar a good man.
Love info like this! Great guest, great episode.
This was great! So interesting! I learned so much and I think I’ll have to listen to this again.
Amazing. This could be a wonderful documentary with video and photos. Can't wait for the tour!
THANK YOU for this Wonderful podcast ! Love to hear more !!!
Dang this is really cool info! Thanks for having Bruce Porter on to discuss this.
Great episode! Need to watch this again and again. There’s a lot mentioned in here.
Loved it! Thanks. Also thanks for introducing Bruce so I can find more of his teaching.
Bruce is great!
I love these videos! It’s great to hear an expounding of knowledge 😁
My goodness!! I've read Hugh Nibley's writings, then learned his work has been supplanted , now I understand how that could be. Many thanks to both Brother Porter and for Brother Madsen for bringing this treasure to light for the public. Can't thank you enough. Thank you.
Wonderful! Thank you Bruce & Greg
You’re welcome.
Your discussion on Egypt and temples has been helpful.
A deep dive into the progression of Jacob into Israel is a personal study project. Strangely, perhaps not, is similarity between Leah and the goddess Hathor. Leah’s name related to wild cow (auroch) with Hathor linked to cows. Certain aspects of Hathor if you consider Leah I with that lens make sense to her role and why Laban arranges that marriage first.
The cow as a clean animal. A ruminant, to ruminate.
Hathor’s connection to the Pleiades stars. Etc.
Much to chew the cud on.
Our family toured temple ruins in the Yucatan peninsula At Ek' Balam on the highest level of the temple were carvings of temple signs and tokens.
Thank you Brother for all you do can't wait to dive into this ✌️
Fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing ❤
Fascinating information! I'm going to have to watch this a couple more times and take notes.
I've watched this I think 2x. I've listened to the podcast I think 4x. This was awesome, and I mean AWESOME.
This is all just truly fascinating! Thank you Greg. I'm going to have to rewind to get the book names and authors. How exciting all of this is! 😇🥰
Loved it! Thank you.
This was amazing. Thank you.
What a wonderful video, thank you! So much powerful information.
Absolutely love this!
Bruce Porter was my seminary teacher years ago. I wish I could get a hold of him. I love his videos.
This reminds me of Herald camping interpreting everything to support his ideas
I started this video when it first came out, but wasn't ready for it until I first read the Ricks and Baker book "Who Shall Ascend Into the Hill of the Lord". Coming back to it now and I wish it was longer! Learning more about the temple, Priesthood, and its ancient history has me continually in awe at what the Lord has given us in these latter days.
I see the Rick and Baker book as an important, connecting work to the temple. I wish more people would read it.
Finally we meet him!!! As it's said, the woman chooses the Pharoah. Just makes one love The Lords scriptures so nicely
This knocks my socks off ❤❤❤
This stuff is absolutely fascinating!
Agreed!
Very informative ❤
This is what I have always thought, and when Egyptus found a land which was still underwater, the advanced buildings we now find in ancient Egypt, the amazing possibly laser cut stone, I have felt these were just covered by the flood, then the water receeded and she found a city possibly, the prediluvians were advanced.. Just a thought.
Was that spot today where the Sphinx is, the same "island" where the waters first receeded?
If taken with what Michael Rush has posited it seems very likely that that's what happened. I personally believe this as well. The pyramids post-flood were ruined as to their original purpose but repurposed as religious temples when Egyptus arrived after the waters receded.
Great information. Thank you!!!
Great interview
Bruce is awesome!
I like this so much I will watch it again. Thank you. Love the expertise
You're welcome
The little we have in the book of Abraham and Moses proves Joseph Smith was a true prophet instead of the contrary. Naysayers and scoffers haven't fully done their homework.
Right. They have seen the papyrus and found the book of Abraham to be complete nonsense.
@@mss3834 time is proving your statement to be absolutely incorrect. There is more truth in Moses and Abraham and More to come.
You do know the book of Abraham that Joseph Smith translated didn't have one single word correct dint you? Turns out it was a Egyptian funeral scroll. You can Google that.
@@Greg-McIver
Google it. But not one word was correctly translated. It was actual an Egyptian funeral scroll. It's a proven fact.
@@camille11ize did you realize the book of Abraham was over 29 feet of a scroll? It wasn't what you are being told. Joseph was a true prophet.
Please bring Bruce back
Sunday!
Fascinating episode Greg & Bruce. Got me thinking about lost ancient scripture to come forth in the last days. Why not lost or buried records of an original religion from the lands of Egypt or Mesopotamia?
Excellent.
Enjoyed the video thankyou
You’re welcome
I love that he explains that Joseph was given the meaning of the papyri not the translation
What a great video!
Thanks
Yes!! Let’s goooo
Wonderful!
Thank you so much Bruce for the excellent way in which you took the time to explain so much. As having been a student of Anthopology and Sociology I am so curious about who knew what in Ancient times. My curiosity of Abraham s religion and how he was in Egypt. Its excellent for you to share all you know . I really appreciate what I have learned from you today. Thank you Cwuc for including Bruce.
Greg - very fascinating. Thanks. 🙏
You’re welcome
Good stuff!
Fascinating
Thank you.
Fascinating 🧐 thanks
This was fascinating! So awesome. There is so much objective proof out there that the Gospel is true. The plan of salvation is true. Those who seek it, will find it. Those who seek for things against His Church and/or trying to prove God doesn’t exist will find it.
Cool stuff
Great stuff. Have any of you listened to The Ancient Tradition podcast? There are some great episodes on the temple and the coronation as well as a lot of other great insights.. Some pretty amazing insights. Totally recommend.
The skeptics often say Biblical stories come from traditions in previous civilizations. When really it's the other way around. The gospel concepts were taught from the beginning, and those civilizations got those ideas from the gospel.
It seems -- to know the covenant people of that time, you have to know all of their neighbors too.
The context adds meaning.
I love All this so much to glean just from this video thank you for posting it. It is fascinating that the Papyri were found near the Temple of Hatshepsut The Queen of Sheba!- according to Immanuel Velikovsky in his book Ages of Chaos vol 1 from Exodus to Akhanton.
I have 3 books o Velikoskvy (sp) .. tremendous insight
I have had some amazing revelation regarding Egyptian symbologies connection to divine truth so I love this.
The ancient cultures (including Egyptian temples) also elude to the watchers, nephilim and giants which are mentioned multiple times in the scriptures and are clearly depicted by all indigenous tribes worldwide. Would you address this subject matter?
Unbelievable, praise God for the Restoration
Makes me want to take the tour
Can we get those book references? This was an amazing podcast!!
This is excellent! I've heard similar things listening to Hugh Nibley.
I read Hugh Nibley's book Temple and Cosmos ... follows right along .. thx to you all!!
Bruce was Nibley's research assistant and also team taught with him. They go way back.
Please list the reference books on kingship and coronation that were mentioned by Bruce Poter. Thank you