The $350 Starter Gaming PC - AMD 3000G Budget Build!
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- The $350 Starter Gaming PC - AMD 3000G Budget Build!
⇨ Sponsor: Enermax ETS-T50 Axe CPU Cooler - amzn.to/2LPoewh
► PARTS LIST + LINKS
($50) AMD Athlon 3000G 3.5 GHz Dual-Core Processor - geni.us/fK3JMXt
($75) Gigabyte B450 AORUS M Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard - geni.us/dawwV
($65) G.Skill Ripjaws V 16GB (2x8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory - geni.us/nfrxd
($28) ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive - geni.us/cpk9Gf
($55) Thermaltake Versa H18 MicroATX Mini Tower Case - geni.us/ytLfrI
($65) Corsair CX Series 550W 80+ Bronze ATX Power Supply - geni.us/jBW2t
If you can't find the Athlon 3000G, consider the Ryzen 3 2200G, which is a 4-core 4-thread CPU with better integrated graphics -- it usually sells for $78.
Ryzen 3 2200G 4 core/4 thread CPU + Vega Graphics - geni.us/3vKoj
►Beginner's Guide to PC Building Playlist - • How To Build a Gaming ...
►How To Set Up a New PC - • How To Set Up a New PC!
Please note that links above may be affiliate links -- clicking them earns me a small commission if you make a purchase and helps support my TH-cam channel. Thank you!
▷ MY STORE - shirts, mugs, pint glasses & hoodies
paulshardware.net
▷ SOCIAL
Twitter: @paulhardware
/ paulhardware
Facebook:
/ 195425877329550
Instagram:
/ paulhardware
:::Send Me Stuff:::
Paul's Hardware
P.O. Box 4325
Diamond Bar, CA 91765
► Edited by Joe Aguilar - ShaostylePostProductions
/ joe_editing
Audio file(s) provided by Epidemic Sound
www.epidemicsou...
“Looking forward to twenty twenty”...
Hindsight is twenty twenty.
If only you knew..............
🤦🏻♂️😂😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to 2030...🤔 😂 😂
It’s 2021
You should do an upgrade path down the line
It's a b450. You can literally throw most ryzen CPUs in there. Just need to update the bios.
iAmPj literally?!,!,!
Agreed. Would love to see this one revisited. I've seen videos this chip OC'd with real world benefits.
That's a good video idea over time.
Any better AM4 cpu and a GPU. Done.
Thanks for making it micro atx. People don't ever do that anymore! Dx
Just bought a i5 4690, 8gb 1866mhz ram, rx 580 4gb a corsair 500w psu and a deepcool gammaxx 400 cooler and a asus b85m-e mobo for 275 i bought a rosewill spectra c100 that came with an original rosewill blue led 120mm fan a 120mm red corsair fan($15 new) a 120mm fractal design fan(no color) and 3 off brand white led 120mm fans for only 30 locally so for a total of a little over 300 i am basically peak 1080p 120hz and im so excited
My old pc build that i had to sell in 2017 was a i5 4460 16gb ddr3 1600mhz, evga 750 supernova, r9 fury sapphire nitro, i miss that pc so much but im glad ive learned and been building computers for years now to know whats good
Paul is the only one that remembers us, budget gamers. Gr8 video paul!
I'd love to see what the performance is with virtualization on this build. Thanks for the video, great content as usual!
One other benefit of building a rig, as opposed to a pre-built, is the manufacturer's warranty on each part. Pre-built manufacturers charge extra to cover the cost of the hardware manufacturer's warranty.
They still make dual-core CPUs in 2019?
esp. for "ultra"books.
Yes, and unlocked.
A used 2200G would be around the same price as the Athlon 3000 but much better performance. Might even be able to get a 2400G. Athon series are a joke only meant for office computers.
@@thomasp4902 *LowSpecGamer has entered the chat*
If you look into entry level laptops and ultrabooks that's pretty much all you're gonna get. I guess 2019 isn't as advanced as you thought. At least these newer chips handle 2 threads per core.
Woop
woop indeed
*W O O P*
W O O P Y
*W 0 0 0 P*
@@air_ w(h)oop(s)
A powersupply with "ketchup and mustard" cables have the advantage that seeing what voltage is in the cables is very easy... red = 5v, yellow = 12v... in the olden days all PSUs had those colored cables
This is about to get crazy good with the new fidelity fx
When can we expect the "upgrade" video Paul? I'm going to wait for that to decide which path to follow next
same
@@kiaraamarabelmar7403 GPU
@@StaticVapour590 yea wich one
@@kiaraamarabelmar7403 Get something used
@@StaticVapour590 lol
For $46 more you can get Paul's original 500 dollar AMD build of 2019 because it is only $396 rn. You get a quad core AMD Ryzen 2200G 16GB RAM the MSI B450 Tomahawk and the cooler master master box lite 5 with 3 RGB fans. Im surprised how the price dropped from February to now. I built the PC as my first build and i love it! Definitely worth the $46 more. Oh also a 480GB Team SSD.
Edit: when i built it around the holidays it was $396 its actually $410 dollars as of December 29th 2019. I still think worth it if you have a little extra cash to spend.
One day I want to build my kid a PC like this for Christmas so they can upgrade it year after year.
I agree with this on the basis of new parts. On the hand of used parts, you could get 3x to 4x the gaming and workstation performance with a much larger amount of storage with a 6c12th or 8c16th cpu with 3.3ghz all core boost with going x79/x99 (depending on if you want ddr3 or ddr4)
You helped me so much I can finally get a pc after years of saving
Thnx and well done! These products are actually available at these prices and it does add up to a decent entry-level pc.
For a low budget gaming PC, take a look at the i3 9100F. Just 4C4T but single and quadcore performance beats a 2700x. In most games you'll get higher fps than with the 2700x and also it's just 75€ atm. The CPU cooler isn't that good but when using headphones it isn't that bad either. With this CPU you'll need dedicated graphics and here it comes to your choice. I suggest the 1650S it's just 160€ and handles most if not all games 60fps in fHD with high or max settings. If prefering AMD you can get the 5500xt but the 570 and 580 are also good options. When using a dedicated GPU you don't need 16gb of RAM. You can go with 2x4gb and upgrade later to 4x4gb.
All in all you'll spend under 500€ but get steady 60fps in all games.
CPU: Intel I3 9100F - 75€
GPU: Inno3d 1650S - 160€
PSU: Corsair VS 450 - 37€
SSD: Patriot P200 512gb - 54€
MB: Gigabyte B365m - 73€
Ram: Corsair Vengeance 3000mhz 2x4gb - 39€
Case: BitFenix Nova - 35€
~ 480€
Note that these are prices in Germany and may be higher or even lower where you live
I like your style! I always see other people make budget builds that perform better than this one, by use cheap parts. I’m one to use higher quality parts for budget builds, so the fact you’re using at least 80+ bronze and a Samsung drive rather than 80+ white and an Adata drive makes it better for me!
I got an i7 2400k, 16g ram 1t hard drive, 1660 asus graphics card, got a dell 19" with gaming keyboard and mouse, almost future proof, to an extent and all for £400 off ebay, there is plenty to pick from. Still save your self a packet.
I think that mechanical hard drives are still a functional way for OS's. However, you will get better loading times with a SSD of any kind. The benefit is more space at lower costs with a mechanical drive. You will not get more FPS from a SSD, just better loading times. If you use a separate HDD for storing just games, load times are very much different from sata SSD's in many cases. SSD's do better multitask loads in general, which is why a SSD is good for a OS but a mechanical drive is not a option I would opt out of if you need that space though.
When you're making a video and didn't realize you were putting your PSU in the wrong way. Lol. Thank God for Premiere Pro Paul 21:31. Thanks for making these videos it made my build pretty easy for my first build. Thanks again.
I think most people (especially during the holiday season) could see this as the best entry into PC gaming. Fortnite, Apex, Overwatch,ECT. Curious if it will push those popular AAA titles. If not what it will need in addition to achieve this?!?!
I’d love to see an upgrade path video for this build. I built a replacement for my super old laptop with this guide and would just like to know where best to go next with it as funds become available.
1600 af or 3300x both would be very strong gaming chips just depends how much cash you have left for a graphics card.If money is super super tight short term get the discrete graphics card and upgrade the cpu later.
R K going gpu first was the plan, but not sure where to go. It’s been 15 years since I was really keeping up with pc specs that I’m kind of lost.
I think there is one additional component that most people will want even more than a discrete GPU and that is a Wifi card. Personally, I would insist on a card that also handled Bluetooth. I can see that there are serious gamers with high end systems that will run cables just to reduce latency and get a more reliable connection. But I think a person building a budget gaming PC is probably going to be fine with the limitations of Wifi and therefore be more likely to want a wireless card so they can position their system where it is most comfortable and convenient. The last time I ran an ethernet cable to a desktop was probably 2008.
I have the same a Thermaltake case. It’s a beautiful case for my set up. I just went on Amazon to see if they had any left and there are only other buyer options and the cheapest one is around $85.
In your follow up please do a test of using this system as a small plex server. I'm very interested in seeing how this robust CPU handles a few 1080p streams, or possibly a 4k stream to a different computer. Thanks!
When it comes to configuring RAM allocation for the APU's iGPU, set it as low as you can. If the iGPU runs out of dedicated memory it will flood over to the rest of the RAM, which it is already using anyways. So you get the most RAM for your system that you can for normal use. I don't remember where I read/heard this, I think it may have been hardware unboxed of gamers nexus, when the 2200G came out.
I really enjoy watching your videos! My only problem is that, most of the time, youtube does not notify me that your videos are up. love the vids!
Really enjoyed your video! I liked the how you explained your way through the build. Keep up the good work!
Ive been saving £10 a week to the point I have £500 now. I'm honestly lost when it comes to the best upgradable system but this has been really helpful.
Terrific Verge level parody of how to not to explain a basic build process
For gaming needs.. You at least need a terabyte.. I fill up 500gbs in no time.. There's nothing wrong with buying a faster hdd.. The only thing that will be slower is game loading by a very small margin, and boot up time.
When your mobo is more expensive then your cpu.
I miss the old parts guides where you talk about the parts and why you chose them for that price point, you built one and gave us the benchmarks, and that was it. I dont need a monthly build guide, and ended up skipping most of the video because of It.
YOU ARE LOOKING FORWARD FOR 2020!!
I used this case and I love it so much
I'd probably go with the Ryzen 5 APU with Raideon graphics for about $148. More cores/threads. I'd also probably add a DVD optical drive as I still have use for them, and the cost is low. I like the fact that this motherboard's graphic hw can drive two displays.
Perfect emulation machine
I've built a pc for a person for 200$,
i5 2300 + intel dh mobo + 4x2GB 50$
gtx 950 2gb 50$
transcend 500g used ssd 25$
xigmatek case 25$
aerocool 500w psu 30$
20$ for myself for finding most of them used, the build can run fortnite at 80fps 1080p medium details
Would prefer to see more realistic budgets, between 1k and 2.5k. These super cheap builds have less computing capacity than my cell phone. Also more air cooled builds would be nice as well. Cheers
Good luck getting that R9 to work on a B450M
I would like to see a low budget video card added then tested.
Im bout to buy a used pre built gaming PC with an i5/i7 and a 1050 Ti for $400, fuck it dude
Imagine a sniper CPU. It has 1 core 2 threads and has 7 GHz core clock speed and can boost to 8 GHz. Crappy multicore performance, but amazing single-core performance.
I’d rather go with a 2200g than a 3000g. Yes it’s older, but 4 cores is 4 cores.
I appreciate the info you give us on build of the months but as i look in my wallet i realize a budget($1500) for me would be an "all-in" build that includes pc plus monitor, keyboard, mouse, and possibly headset. Can you do an all-in build please?
4th reason) i've building my own Pcs forever and changing is a little difficult.
Even before I got onto PC gaming I couldn't stand dual cores the amount of patience needed for them is not for me I cant imagine someone running this and having fun. There are better 50$ options even if you have to get it used like ryzen 1200-1600
Print a Samsung logo or custom sticker for the hard drive and make a silicon hood for the power.
if you are looking to buy this but have more of a budget, get a ryzen 5 3400g or 3200g, way more performance
A Ryzen 9 should not even be a consideration if you don't even have a dedicated GPU yet. In fact, you should probably get a graphics card first of all before even thinking about going to a Ryzen 5. The Athlon 3000G, despite being weak would still benefit greatly from a dedicated GPU, and a Ryzen 3 even more so.
What graphics card would work with this build?
I would like to see you playing Fortnite and maybe Modern warfare if possible. Luv your vids Paul!!
thanks Paul
You forgot to add in the os to the cost
Like 3 dollars
@@achelois3245 🤣🤣🤣
I'm building a PC for CAD/CAM software. What suggestions do u have?
0:00 "We're looking forward to 2020". Mmm maybe...
I thought the same thing xD
@@firestrikebs Same XD
That aged well...
stay in 2019 2020 is trying to kill everyone
I was just about to say the same thing lol
20 dollar build next plz I'm on a tight budget
have you considered stealing ? lol
😂
thats to high..you mean 10?
@@moedalgarny ok well thats called arduino. to surf net only. its do able. the mega board is like 5$. they rest is cheap also. enjoy.
Find a computer someones giving away and add a Sata ssd to boot from?
Are you that dude who stole those talking chipmunks ?
hes the guy that stole woody in toy story 2
😂😂😂
He looks like the guy who stole Woody
And the chipmunks
XDDDDDDDDDD
i thought I was the only one
He has some toys in his background
I'm a big fan of these inexpensive Thermaltake cases. Built a PC for a friend's teen in the Versa H18 a couple weeks ago. Also - I've been using this B450 Aorus M for a year or so now and it's been really solid for me. Great build Paul!
Excellent case choice, best budget airflow case I can find these days.
Thanks Robert, and thanks for the hands-on feedback on the parts you've tried out! 🙏
@@paulshardware a suggestion for the "upgrade path" ... the most logical path for me would be to 1st upgrade the GPU to something like a RX 5500 XT or GTX 1650 Super and then later upgrade the CPU to something like the Ryzen 5 3600.
@Dead Account I just upgraded from a 2600 to 3600 and gave my 2600 to my other-half. I'm hoping within a year or so to upgrade again to something like a 3900X or perhaps similar Zen 3 part.
Paul you are one of the good ones!
I'd spend $30 more in Ryzen 2200G, 4 full cores and much stronger iGPU are worth it.
@pee is stored in the balls
And another $150 for GPU becuase 1600 doesn't have one built in.
@@sic22l the AF version retails at 75$-85$ and is 6 core 12 thread 3.4ghz and even has some OC potential
@AvOiD Haze
Nice. Still no iGPU.
sic22l yeah but the benchmarks won’t be anything impressive with a 4 core igpu processor I understand this is a budget video but if you’re lookin to get into gaming I would not rely on igpu if it’s just a work station or something to browse web on then what ur saying would be enough.
@AvOiD Haze
We're talking about an extremely budget $350 rig with Athlon 3000G and no dGPU. Ryzen 1600 would mean that you have to spend at least $100 (used) or $150 for a dedicated GPU and raise the total by almost 40% to $485. It's a different category.
"We're looking forward into 2020"
Oh, Paul.
"Were looking forward to 2020"
Nononononononononono
No. We're just looking forward to November 4th.
I'm always disappointed by the lack of benchmarks at the end of these videos...
At the end of the video he says that benchmarks are coming soon. Relax
should just be part of the video not stretched to make more content! :P i am just impatient
Me too. I was thinking the same thing when I clicked this video. Joey Delgado dose a really good job at testing his pc's after building
@@gamerscore88
Well watch his stuff. Either that or have a little patience.
that's cause benchmarks would show that the chosen cpu is not even adequate for a "starter gaming pc" lol
So basically the idea is spend alot on ur ssd or M.2, mother board. And psu so u dont have to do it down the line when u start upgrading.
Kinda. Those things are pretty fucking important and you wouldn't want to cheap out on any of them if you think about it. But usually people go with a good PSU and trash everything else and put the big bank money on CPU/GPU.
I wouldn't argue that standpoint, good solid storage and power is very important and annoying to upgrade imo. Would definitely second also spending a little more on a mobo also as that's a very important, generally long standing part of a build.
If I'm being honest, I prefer to budget in favor of everything but the cpu, gpu, and cpu cooler. Not for everything else to be overkill, but it would make upgrading super easy; just slot in a new cpu or gpu and watch as the frames increase! I'd put most of the budget into the psu, then mobo, then storage, then ram. After that the case, and everything else necessary for the pc _except_ the cpu and gpu (those are what I prefer to be the most entry level of the build). This allows for a quick and easy upgrade, like I mentioned before. Any thoughts on this build idea? (This probably only goes for a system below $1000ish, after that a more balanced build is much more effective than the above strategy)
Expensive psus are a myth. With power usage going down with every generation and SLI being essentially dead u don't need those 750+ watts monstrosities. Go on pcpartpicker, filter for full modular, get the cheapest stuff at the moment, you will be fine. Especially if it's seasonic. No need to keep sponsoring Corsair.
@@mrxanthios7045 The great value RX 580 uses quite a lot of power. The NVIDIA RTX line uses more power than the previous GTX models. Having said that, few people need 750+ W power supplies. But spending a bit more money on a good quality PSU is still a good idea. High-quality components, fully modular, and a silent fan are worth the extra money, at least for me.
He looks like the kind of guy to sign a record deal with my pet chipmunks
Merry Christmas Paul! to you and your family!
Merry Christmas to you too Ryan!
@@paulshardware Thanks Merry Christmas
@@canadianryan3875 this is getting out of hand, now theres 2 of them
Thank you for the budget build. I can build this for a friend for Christmas he can start PC gaming with me!!
You're a good friend!
Are you kidding! I hope you are.
@@kramlol6514 bro, this video one is better, if i want i can put a fucking 16/32 cores processor in this motherboard, and is just put a gpu like 2080ti later. With this optiplex, you only can play for now, but after you will need to change the parts again
You're great
@@Created-by-Guilherme not true. at all.
I cheaped out on my fans and now my computer sounds like a jet engine
You say this like it is a bad thing, mr joe.
@@_Gnome. not really gonna upgrade then to noctua fans after I get my 2nd m.2 ssd
I cheaped out on my psu EVGA BT450 (12$ on Black Friday) Was the only thing in my PC that made a peep till it went out 2 years later. Replaced with a 850w Gold Phanteks. The fan doesn't even spin up until under heavy load and even then its inaudible
@@keencolios591 I have those every time I turn my pc on it sounds like a jet taking off
@@dumbjackass123 then you have them at full rpm all the time then... Go into BIOS and change that.
16:11
Linus: is that CLOSED CELL FOAM on a 50 dollar case?!??
Nah linus would be going thats not a budget build two thousand dollars is a budget pc
I recently built my first PC. I used that exact case. Total came out to under 300 with 2200g 16gb ram and a 256 gb ssd. Works great.
I just built one myself I already had the case and psu for my retro computer but I put the new parts in the new case with the 3200g and 16gb ram and 250 gig ssd for under 300
What games could you play
@@gamerboy13stupid89 on my retro computer i was playing battlefield 1942 and battlefield 2 and vietnam redux. On my new pc i'm playing battlefield 3 and 4
@@gamerboy13stupid89 I could play Cities:Skylines at 1080p max. I mostly play CPU intensive games, but I recently added an RX 590.
@@bretthibbs6083 can you tell me the specs of your PC.
the sky isnt the limit, your money is your limit
Case - skin
MoBo - skeleton
PSU - heart
CPU - brain/neurons
RAM - short term memory
SSD/HDD - long term memory
Fans/AIO - lungs
KB/Mouse - hands
Very fucking cool 😎
GPU - eyes
@@filetsteak5677 I was thinking that, but the GPU is more the reverse of the optical nerves.
Our optical nerves take info in.
The GPU outputs it.
This analogy explains why you should not skimp massively on any one (or more) part, but some parts especially! (like, don't get a super sketchy heart. That's a bad plan)
@@I_am_Allan Yeah you could instead say that CPU is the frontal lobe of the brain and the GPU is the visual system (it's spread over a couple of lobes, not a clean separation. Limits of the analogy lol) I guess
I just built a similar system for general office use, some heavy spreadsheet work, & minimal old games (nothing too demanding). Very happy with its performance. Ryzen 3400G CPU, 2x 8gig 3200MHz RAM, 512gig Adata SX8200 Pro m.2 NVMe for boot drive, basic MSI B450 motherboard, Thermaltake Versa H15 case. Very pleased with it.
Best benchmark performance run (not stock speed). www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/23062386
4.4GHz holy smoke Batman.
@@adallen1241 no smoke, Robin. Just for the test I put the rig next to an aircon vent. Idle temp was around 4 degrees Celsius (39F). Cooling makes a significant benefit to performance. Cooled so much it was stable overclocked to 4.4GHz. Although this test was just for fun. I'll run at stock for everyday use.
?! minimal old games? are you from the future?
@@jasonvoss1984 doesn't the moisture from aircon possibly damage your system?
Yes please show the upgrade path with the different integrated graphics options and the best dedicated gpu right now for a build like this!
After he does some fps and speed tests. WoW Classic should be a good use case for this machine.
the highest i would go with this would be a gtx 1660/ gtx 1060/ rx 580/ rx 5500
@@huskybiscuit2702 next year GTX 1060
RX 580 became potato
@@claritoresdiano1021 lol using rx 580 rn it works fine at 1080p what you talking about? With an i5 runs games good.
@@xmetalfreakx2550 RDR2 indicated new game in next year.
“We”re looking up for 2020” that aged like milk
Great video, although in my opinion any gaming PC beginner or otherwise needs a dedicated GPU. RX 570's are dirt cheap and play most games, 1080p, High, 60+ FPS.
Couldn’t you just put an rx 570 in this setup or nah? (I’m totally clueless on pc atm, so sorry If it’s a dumb question)
@@BobBob-qg4lo yes.
@@BobBob-qg4lo if not for the cpu being an apu and having integrated graphics you would HAVE to have a graphics card in it to even get a show display on screen , but having a apu instead of dedicated cpu / gpu combo doesn't stop you from going that route, can actually be nice somtimes to have a apu and a gpu, if you have a gpu die you can still use your pc because your cpu doubles as a low end gpu!
@@BobBob-qg4lo yes u can but the CPU is just crap. No one should by a dual core today if u want to update down the line
TheDeevil thanks
The ultimate test of a PC, can it run Crysis, lmao.
What made me sad is that there's a lot of people around who are too young to understand that reference, lol.
I’m so happy that I understand this reference 😂
@Ooga Booga imagine going out of your way to be a hater damn.
See what gpu you can add without bottlenecking it
Yea, that can become a problem. This happen to me a few times. Yet we know the outcome will come after building a system.
I’m guessing - rx570 or so would be a good combo? What do you think
Anything above 1050Ti/1650super/Rx570 is a bottleneck
Symon Flores do you mean 1650 super?
Officer L3MON Yeah lmao
Great video!
For $350 I like to go with used parts instead of new. I have built many computers with a Ryzen 3 1200, RX 570 and 8GB of RAM for €350.
What are common prices have you bought the 1200's for?
TIK I went with a ryzen 5 2600 and 16gb 3000mhz ram that even has rgb on them I usually like to go new only but sometimes ill make an exception if the used parts are cheap enough.
@@marcopasta6274 in Australia if you can find a R3 1200 used people are asking 80-100% of new 2200G prices, nearly all our used Ryzen are like this & we can't get them new any more,
it is why AliExpress is cheaper including shipping here
Not a great upgrade path tho but good for only 350
Its easier to buy new budget sometimes for the new builder.
A cheap new computer build can give experience and learn the new standards
good games to test:
Older games people like to replay (GTA 5, Doom, COD, WoW, etc) with medium settings or something.
Brand new games. to show budget people what they are missing without a graphics card.
GTA V, DOOM, Witcher 3, COD Warzone, SOTTR, RDR2, AC ODYSSEY, CSGO, Overwatch
Him: This is a budget build
Also Him: Buys a Samsung 850 EVO SSD
They are cheap wdym?
I like how you went over everything here, would definitely recommend this video to anyone looking to break into PC gaming
How does this run Farming Simulator 2019???
Good
I really hope you are kidding
UB DATNOOB why?
UB DATNOOB I know nothing about PC’s
Because your build a pc for FARM SIMULATOR
I love this case, have built in it before, really exciting to see it on the channel. Haven't even finished watching, but always great content Paul!
Paul i think you should have also recommended this build with the 2200g for 70 bucks with far better igpu and 4 cores
He did recommend it at 9:15. Yeah he snuck it in the middle of the vid :)
11:08 “it time to get it put together” - Paul
i would install the OS on the NVMe .
Would a ryzen 5 3600 work on a b450 mboard? Hears something about a BIOS update being required
Most B450 boards do need a BIOS update for Ryzen 3XXX. With that said, all MSI B450 boards that have MAX at the end have the updated BIOS already, no worries there.
When you buy the board the trick is to ask them to update to the bios version you need. Most places do this.
I bought a b350 for a ryzen 2600 and it has a sticker that says ryzen 3000 ready does that mean i can run it wo any problems?
Yes B350 should be able to do up to 3800x
My ASUS ROG Strix B450-F was Zen 2 ready.
2700x is $150 on Amazon and if you have their CC you get it for $135
@Hiro Nito Got a 2600x for €125 inc tax. on black friday. An 8(16) core will be fantastic but the 6(12) is fine for me.
Bought the 2700x on black Friday at Microcenter for $129, building my computer on christmas and using the rx580 with it
wccftech.com/first-gen-amd-ryzen-cpus-are-appearing-with-12nm-zen-architecture/
My favorite part of the new builds videos is when Paul always forgets to turn the power supply on xD
Integrated Graphics and gaming used in the same sentence , times are a changin.
John Smith remember sound cards?
Actually if you force integrated gpu with card, crossfire does activate.
I'm going to buy exactly everything in the build and will come back on this video for the step by step tutorial, I bought a pre built pc that was 2.5X the price of this pc and yet it has the qualities of a 2015 office pc. Wish me luck!
Good luck!
God no don’t buy the parts on this pc
It’s absolutely a shitty ass build I can build a pc that will run circles around this build for less to the same amount of money
Before you build this, I want to suggest a better combo but you may have to go for used parts.
This setup:
Ryzen 3 1200 ($60)
Gigabye AORUS M ($90)
EVGA 500W Bronze ($50)
[some random case] ($40)
8gb ram, ddr4 3000 [whichever brand is cheap and on the qvl] ($30-40)
Radeon RX 550, 560, 290, etc. ($60-$100)
Kingston A400 or WD blue 1TB: ($30-40)
This adds to about 380-440 dollars, but it is miles better than the PC in this video. As I mentioned before, if you go for used, you will definitely be able to get this down to $350. Hell, if you have a micro center you can even get it to $350.
Some of these are higher prices then they say
And some are shipped by different people
When i typed this in to calculator it said $465
It's around 500€ for me. Is it still worth ?
I know how to do all this but I still watched the whole video. Paul's videos are like pc asmr. It's just relaxing.
Exaaaactly !
Yeah went and had a lie down soooo relaexed!
Paul ist straight to the point guy who does a good job of explaining how things go and work....
Can't believe you can build so much cheaper in US/Canada ._.
This exact same build would cost me +/- €379 (=$420 USD) in The Netherlands, that's 20% more
Rick 'RlCK' that’s because of the Value Added Tax
as far as i know that's the same with everything you buy online. prices on us online shops are displayed without tax, because taxes are different from state to state and you pay the tax of the state you live in. In the eu when you buy online VAT is displayed, because you pay the tax of the country you buy from (which is about 20% everywhere)
Sticker prices in Canada are higher than USA, a $100 item in USA will cost about $145 in Canada and has a higher sales tax rate on top of the prices.
@@yurimow Oh, really? I never knew this. That makes so much sense. So in reality the difference is minimum? VAT here is 21%, in USA it's 10% according to Google search?
@@Rick020 Yeah, it will still be more expensive, but not such an outrageously large amount after the adjustment
(I feel similarly. Computer parts are also more expensive here in New Zealand)
AMD Ryzen 3 2200G will be a better choose for starter build in my opinion, I saw it for $70-$77 on Amazon with discounts.
Or even a 3200g for like 20 more dollars I don't know why he chose the 3000g and other tech TH-camrs are doing the same
So it's a starter PC build, not a starter "gaming" PC build because without a dedicated gpu you will get unplayable frames on any new games.
Why assume that all gamers want to play new games? Remember that new games cost a lot, too. The kind of people going for a budget PC would also go for discounted (older) games. Or e-sports games, which are fine on iGPUs.
Loved the video Paul. This is one reason I have been recommending AMD to my friends that have to start out with a low end system but will upgrade slowly. I agree I would like to see the performance analysis of the base system and the with an upgrade path similar to what a person would upgrade. I.E. graphics card then new cpu, and continue on up from there to the highest end AMD system that can be built at this time. Thanks again and keep up the awesome work. Happy holidays!!!
BENCHMARKS?????????????????????????????????????
Probably shouldn’t be titled Starter Gaming Pc then..
FreeZz yea you can play games with that pc, one of my friends bought all the parts for this and made it, says works perfectly for gaming
@FreeZz then it isn't better than Vega 3. Vega 3 lowest settings 720p gets 120-150 fps in csgo.
@FreeZz th-cam.com/video/GPSNS75gEtQ/w-d-xo.html
@FreeZz this particular tester gets 150-180 fps due in part to his impressive 4.1GHz overclock. It's likely the average userbenchmark tester has trash ram.