That's why their system is crap if you defend yourself in chat you get banned for using profanity because they will report you yet the person who started it gets off scott free they are more worried about sexual assault cases instead of the game
@@MarkForChrist187 Nah the new team is better than the old team lol. The old team is responsible for every meta that lasted too long. release brig, goats lasting too long, double shield lasting too long, abandoning the game for years, no communication, 5v5 ow2 etc were made by old dev team. Atleast the new team is trying to fix things way faster and revert stuff that doesnt work.
Crazy that “support” hero was ever released. You could’ve swapped illari’s turret for a different ability like some kind of area denial and you would never think that she was supposed to be a support hero
@@mickeyboy90 Her ult is better, her movement is better and if you swapped her heal turret with a more dps style ability like a dmg turret, area denial or utility she would be better than Cass. Yes her dps is less but she makes up for it with raw utility and flexibility. Saying illari is worse than Cass is like saying ashe is worse than Cass. Maybe the statement is technically correct but they have different roles and jobs anyway. Illari is legitimately just a dps hero stuck in the support role
@@Nortiothat may be true but I actually like illari quite abit, she’s stronger now rn but even before I liked how she played. The emergency of shit button that is her right click is fun to use lol
Im a support and mostly Bap main, my games normally consist of me pocketing the tank with sparce dps. Ive played long enough to know that if i take my eyes off of the tank, they melt. Sometimes i can leave the tank to the other support and help the DPSs but usually its both us supports up the tank's backside as they plow straight into the fray
They.. do.. not.. know.. what.. they're doing. They just say whatever sounds the best at the moment. To the point its even contradictory. They are completely lost.
Tbf Mercy has some of the best mobility in the game, but that's also not how you make a support hero. They've actually made one hero that I consider a fantastic support hero bit somehow don't see it. Mei is an excellent example of a support hero. She has cc for days, the ability to shield her team from damage, cut off enemy pathing, and an invulnerability that can also provide cover. Mei is the best example of a support hero in the game, but Blizzard has no idea what to do with support, so they slapped her in dps and gave her more dmg. She'd also make a great tank if her character model wasn't too small. That said, having a dedicated healer role isn't a bad thing. It's a proven formula in games, and players who like that playstyle usually prefer a dedicated role. That's why Mercy is such a common pick. It's not because she's considered simple. It's because she's focused on performing the role those players want to play.
I can see why you would say that, but which of her 4000000000 iterations would it be? 😂 In all seriousness, she's a cool example of Blizzard actually trying to innovate, but I don't think it ever really worked. I think she fit into ow1 a lot better , too. Blizz giving up on making Sym a support seems to me like an indication that they moved away from that idea but kept telling us, "it's called support." Honestly, we have a healer role now, we have for years, and that's not a bad thing. The tank/dps/heal trio works well, ow and it's playerbase just need to accept that so they can start balancing the game around reality rather than the image they're pushing.
I wonder if what this means (if we read between the lines) is that each support hero from here on out will have either damage or mobility. Not both. With the possibility of the team going back to tune heroes like Bap and Kiriko a little bit more.
Yap yap yap yap It looks like he answers a lots but when you look close he doesn't answer anything other than yaps The ability to do that for more than 1 hour is amazing to me
The whole interview is interesting, though unfortunately nothing big was asked or answered (aside from comments on how the hero design team is approaching tanks and some teases for the next hero). If you at all care about hearing from the hero design team and have the attention span for it, I’d recommend watching the highlights/analysis or the full VOD from Spilo.
I've notice one hard counter become less of a counter and thats cass against tracer. With cassidy's grenade it would follow tracers blink and hinder making tracer an easier kill but with the flashbang, it can still counter but it just counters less making it easier for tracers to fight cassidys
Give sombra all the hard counters and let her feel the pain tanks feel. In fact, make sombras hard counters completely brain dead. I want a button that insta kills sombra specifically if you just hold the button down in her general area. I want another button that reveals sombra for 5 minutes and makes her footsteps incredibly loud.
@@dylancrosby2451 you want some sombra hardcounters ? Moira, kiriko, mccass, tracer and reinhardt. That's just a few examples, but usually, against a sombra, you either want to play rush and ignore her, or play ultra hitscan poke with bap illari. And yes a healing moira hardcounters since she has great peel, easy to aim damage (hack cancel) and a self cleanse for virus
I've found out that Venture actually is a counter to Hammond's ult, and is in fact better in Sombra for that one specific thing since you have to wait for an ability, not an ult.
"Less Hard Counters" Ana just running around with an infinite use tank killer if the other team isnt running Kiriko: "Those words cant stop me cause I cant read!"
When they introduced 5v5 they needed supports to be able to support themselves because they didn’t have the security of an off tank to peel for them and keep them safe. The problem is half of the supports like Ana or mercy can’t do that so they giga buffed them and that sucked so they needed them and that sucked is were going in a giant loop until most of the support roster are new overwatch 2 “dps” supports like illaire and kiriko and lifeweaver or overwatch 1 supports like Lucio or zen than can help themselves.
What we really want is more balanced in the community it used to be you could climb through the ranks if you were good enough solo and now you have to suffer extra (just because your teammates are bad/don’t know when to switch) it’s annoying to play with people that don’t understand how to play the game the way you crafted it which wasn’t always the case and now they realizing the game used to be a lot more fun before the changes they made. And look in whatever scenario you find yourself in there’s always gonna be that one person on the other team that’s the deciding factor for the win. that’s just how battles are won so Changing your game so that more people can easily emulate that energy with minimal effort is not good.
Why not talk to someone like flats about balance? Someone who directly feels the result of the changes and understands how the games works where it counts better than most the devs likely do
There's really weird them changing their ideas so often. Maybe they really don't know how to work on tanks and try different things and ideas to see what would stick best with the community...
I hate playing genji man. He's the character that got me into the game in the first place. And whenever I play him, always get countered. One Moira or a brig is fine. But the last time I played, 4 of them all switched to counters. Thankfully the tank didn't switch. I just wanna play my favorite character,I don't care about winning too much, but I wanna be able to at least play the game when I do lose yanno
@@TonicalPhanto support in every role-based game has always been about maximizing non-healing value. It's hilarious to me that people complain about too much healing and nothing dying but also don't like when supports do damage and want them to only heal.
Thing is though, if you nerf the horse too much then Hog and the Samoan dominate the game. If you nerf Zarya then the horse legit has no counter and the match turns into Try Not to Get Stomped (Impossible).
This is why you contextualise this interview with the actual dev blog post which specifically states that they're gonna stop doing role reworks in favour of individual hero tuning. @Elderskorp Zarya doesn't counter the horse anymore, she hasn't since Orisa got her infinite range buff (she can counter her hard counter.) It's far more situational.
I swear, if they try claiming that "OW2 was always a team game" and want to make the game "less solo focused", Im going to lose it. Not because I dont want it (because I do) But because this would be the final nail in OW2's coffin. People are already saying "what makes OW2 a sequel to OW", and that would just be the last straw
Only kinda related, but I've never understood why Junker Queen's damage over time and lifesteal are so miniscule when her kit is generally a worse version of Roadhog who has a risk-free, self-healing-with-40%-damage-reduction button. She has the weaker shotgun, a weaker "hook", an ult that's way less geared towards taking/controlling space, and all to account for what? The fact that her weaker shotgun is hitscan and her weaker ult applies antiheal? And that she has a slow axe for burst damage that's harder to land and way more risky than anything Hog has to do? Like why does the more fun hero get the weaker toys across the board? She doesn't have some great movement ability to make up for it, just her ult, which is situational as far as movement needs are concerned
@@HontoNeet its probably due to her sped, like a few seasons back jq was pretty unkillable because of a small percentage and when she got micro nerfed it affected her a lot more than it should
When are we gonna just accept no matter what they say publicly they're just so terribly dog shit at balancing that they end up going completely in the wrong/opposite direction. And then gotta be like no wait that's actually what we wanted and then everyone boos them and then they gotta damage control again and say no wait it was the first thing. These devs sound like that one loser kid that keeps changing the rules so he doesn't lose in a game he made up in the first place but they're so stupid and bad at everything that they always end up losing no matter what they change because they're terrible. Skill issue NGL.
Damn I like hard counterpicking Game is more diverse that way Without it, why does ov even need a "switch while im game" option? Make it like in moba or paladins, you lock in before the game and deal with it.
When upper management okay'd the change. Don't worry they'll still gouge the playerbase but as long the youtubers and influences continue supporting it then you'll get the old bad metas again
Damage over time effects ruined this game. I'm so tired of Mauga existing, being able to fire both guns at the same time. I'm tired of Blizzard's idea of balance being adding more and more passives. I'm sick of entire gamemodes being ignored when all it would take it fix is some very simple tweaks... tweaks that already exist as a custom game preset.
@@maxchess6734 the other problem is that they jsut want the ez to take care of junk when u dont need to do it literally jsut playing diffrently is a soft counter dva eh big hitbox so yeah and DM is slightly annyoing but at least she cant attack while using DMG besides for MM
@@noahedenborg4221 well yeah, but then that means you're never flanking and always needing your team to heal you, meanwhile the dva prevents you from getting any damage by eating half of your grenade. Well, we probably have different junkrat experiences and playstyles.
The tank changes did nothing. Qp is full of sweats. Being forced to swap off of the hero i wanna play because otherwise i can't play. I'm relatively new to the game but already thinking about uninstalling again. Why not make it 6v6, atleast as an arcade mode or something. I desperately need a tank teammate
Avg players skill has decreased so much since launch of ow 1. They dont even realize the game is about countering or being good enough to work around counterswaps smh
It's because the dev team is incompetent They are back paddling on the back paddling So I guess forward pedaling idk Dev team copying hi Rez is sol Funny
Counter picking shouldnt be a part of overwatch. Its annoying. I wanna play the characters I like, but in its current state my only avenue to JUST play the character I like is quickplay, and even that gets annoying cus people will bitch and moan at you for not changing your character to counter pick their counter pick. I wanna play OVERWATCH not fucking yugioh
Wtf is going on at Overwatch? I'm just waiting to see how bad they'll fuck up the transformers collab to decide whether I stay or go cause atm. They've removed Archives AND the campaign so Overwatch 2 has given me 0 reasons to keep playing lately
Biggest L design take. If you do 100 healing and 151 damage, you can't damage anymore? They're basically the same. What if you're a low-healing support like Zenyatta? Good luck catching up and just sitting doing nothing while you wait to be allowed to contribute to the fight again. What if your team is just steamrolling and killing everyone before you can heal them? What if they die before you can heal them and you are left 1v5 against the enemy team without the ability to do anything? Guess you'll just roll over and die. I understand that supports can do a lot of things, but they are not and should not just be healbots. Nobody wants that, and it's not good design.
@@untapped8776 from your comments I can only assume you don’t play tank. I don’t mind supports that do a bit of shooting but if they want to dps they should queue dps, not queue Lucio and go on side missions that leave the team to die
@@surturz just heal thru the 1 shot, just heal thru mauga melting the tank, just heal thru bastion turret. Blud, healing can only do so much. "Just heal" doesnt magically work, especialy when your team is being dumb and break the sight lines. Fucking zenyatta ult can be outdamaged thanks to the dps passive. Healing aint gonna do all that much
@Kyle_Evers dude zarya is in at least 75% of my games because in gold even if she's low hp they will not break her bubble and kill her. They'll shoot it just enough to give her charge and then completely leave her alone. I kinda sound like I'm whining and saying bad teammates but I'm a master kiri main so being aggressive is engraved in my brain but even if it's a 5v3 golds will continue to poke and not try to stagger their team and I'll die because I didn't look back to see my entire team emoting on the point
I reckon the reason they keep on changing design philosophy is that Blizzard keeps on laying off half the team every 6 months lol
I want the og devs from ow 1 back
I literally thought this. how can the game be consistent when none of people who try to set up a foundation are going to be there
That's why their system is crap if you defend yourself in chat you get banned for using profanity because they will report you yet the person who started it gets off scott free they are more worried about sexual assault cases instead of the game
The reason is just the void of a vision for the game . They constantly shift the goal post when there old thing doesnt work
@@MarkForChrist187 Nah the new team is better than the old team lol. The old team is responsible for every meta that lasted too long. release brig, goats lasting too long, double shield lasting too long, abandoning the game for years, no communication, 5v5 ow2 etc were made by old dev team. Atleast the new team is trying to fix things way faster and revert stuff that doesnt work.
"We've since, scrapped the scrappy goal." Was that after Illari was released? Because Illari is pretty much just a DPS with an auto healing turret.
Crazy that “support” hero was ever released. You could’ve swapped illari’s turret for a different ability like some kind of area denial and you would never think that she was supposed to be a support hero
Illiari would be a horrid dps without turret, she’s almost worse than cass in every way.
@@mickeyboy90
Her ult is better, her movement is better and if you swapped her heal turret with a more dps style ability like a dmg turret, area denial or utility she would be better than Cass. Yes her dps is less but she makes up for it with raw utility and flexibility.
Saying illari is worse than Cass is like saying ashe is worse than Cass. Maybe the statement is technically correct but they have different roles and jobs anyway.
Illari is legitimately just a dps hero stuck in the support role
@@Nortiothat may be true but I actually like illari quite abit, she’s stronger now rn but even before I liked how she played. The emergency of shit button that is her right click is fun to use lol
What if Soldier but his healing pylon was permanent
The problem with the current dev thoughts and such is it sounds too good to be true. This is Overwatch and itwouldn’t be the first time. . . . .
Im a support and mostly Bap main, my games normally consist of me pocketing the tank with sparce dps. Ive played long enough to know that if i take my eyes off of the tank, they melt.
Sometimes i can leave the tank to the other support and help the DPSs but usually its both us supports up the tank's backside as they plow straight into the fray
Thank you for your service
It’s the push and pull without a set path to evolve that gets me.
They.. do.. not.. know.. what.. they're doing. They just say whatever sounds the best at the moment. To the point its even contradictory. They are completely lost.
I want another tank. I want to add my 6th friend again
Oh ok Mr "I have 5 friends", you must feel real special huh???
(I'm jk lmao)
Overwatch players don’t have 5 friends.. just 5 drug addicts relapsing on the same shit game.🎉
@@A_Jetsfan lmao
@@A_Jetsfan lol but the game is like an ex, even if you leave it, your always gonna come back to it…
He’s a jets fan. He knows about drug addicts fr 😂
Blizz never sticking to a plan as usual 😂
They also have no idea how to make a support character. They've almost always just slapped healing on a dps.
Because the other roles hate dedicated healers/utlity. Look at mercy. Literally only thing she's got is healing or utility.
Tbf Mercy has some of the best mobility in the game, but that's also not how you make a support hero.
They've actually made one hero that I consider a fantastic support hero bit somehow don't see it.
Mei is an excellent example of a support hero. She has cc for days, the ability to shield her team from damage, cut off enemy pathing, and an invulnerability that can also provide cover.
Mei is the best example of a support hero in the game, but Blizzard has no idea what to do with support, so they slapped her in dps and gave her more dmg.
She'd also make a great tank if her character model wasn't too small.
That said, having a dedicated healer role isn't a bad thing. It's a proven formula in games, and players who like that playstyle usually prefer a dedicated role. That's why Mercy is such a common pick. It's not because she's considered simple. It's because she's focused on performing the role those players want to play.
@@jotarokujo3603sym should also be a support.
I can see why you would say that, but which of her 4000000000 iterations would it be? 😂
In all seriousness, she's a cool example of Blizzard actually trying to innovate, but I don't think it ever really worked. I think she fit into ow1 a lot better , too.
Blizz giving up on making Sym a support seems to me like an indication that they moved away from that idea but kept telling us, "it's called support."
Honestly, we have a healer role now, we have for years, and that's not a bad thing. The tank/dps/heal trio works well, ow and it's playerbase just need to accept that so they can start balancing the game around reality rather than the image they're pushing.
I wonder if what this means (if we read between the lines) is that each support hero from here on out will have either damage or mobility. Not both. With the possibility of the team going back to tune heroes like Bap and Kiriko a little bit more.
Yap yap yap yap
It looks like he answers a lots but when you look close he doesn't answer anything other than yaps
The ability to do that for more than 1 hour is amazing to me
corporate speak, very common for statements towards the public. Nothing concrete, just yappin to make people stand down
The whole interview is interesting, though unfortunately nothing big was asked or answered (aside from comments on how the hero design team is approaching tanks and some teases for the next hero). If you at all care about hearing from the hero design team and have the attention span for it, I’d recommend watching the highlights/analysis or the full VOD from Spilo.
I don't think so. He answered well...
"Right answer, wrong formula"
I think why 5v5 sucks is that nobody has friends anymore
No one that wants to play this unbalanced game that's for sure.
I've notice one hard counter become less of a counter and thats cass against tracer. With cassidy's grenade it would follow tracers blink and hinder making tracer an easier kill but with the flashbang, it can still counter but it just counters less making it easier for tracers to fight cassidys
Give sombra all the hard counters and let her feel the pain tanks feel.
In fact, make sombras hard counters completely brain dead. I want a button that insta kills sombra specifically if you just hold the button down in her general area. I want another button that reveals sombra for 5 minutes and makes her footsteps incredibly loud.
so moira then XD
@@josh6689 moira?????? Moira???? A hard counter?????? What are you smoking?
My guy, stop bitching and learn. This game isn't a shooter, it's a moba in a shooter skin suit.
Based. Fuck Sombra
@@dylancrosby2451 you want some sombra hardcounters ?
Moira, kiriko, mccass, tracer and reinhardt.
That's just a few examples, but usually, against a sombra, you either want to play rush and ignore her, or play ultra hitscan poke with bap illari.
And yes a healing moira hardcounters since she has great peel, easy to aim damage (hack cancel) and a self cleanse for virus
They have no idea what the fuck is going on don't let them fool you lmao
I've found out that Venture actually is a counter to Hammond's ult, and is in fact better in Sombra for that one specific thing since you have to wait for an ability, not an ult.
I wouldnt get too excited. Last time i was hopeful for something in Overwatch 2, they cancelled PVE
Pushing for synergies OVER counters and focusing on that is such a better philosophy.
OH, there's a game coming out like that!
This dev team really loves to flip flop if it's convenient for them huh?
I think the next major change will be in the "store" not in store. Cash shop game go.
😂😂
"Less Hard Counters"
Ana just running around with an infinite use tank killer if the other team isnt running Kiriko: "Those words cant stop me cause I cant read!"
When they introduced 5v5 they needed supports to be able to support themselves because they didn’t have the security of an off tank to peel for them and keep them safe. The problem is half of the supports like Ana or mercy can’t do that so they giga buffed them and that sucked so they needed them and that sucked is were going in a giant loop until most of the support roster are new overwatch 2 “dps” supports like illaire and kiriko and lifeweaver or overwatch 1 supports like Lucio or zen than can help themselves.
Make Lifeweaver's platform heal a teammate that stands on it.
How do you achieve no counter swapping in 5v5? U could giga buff the “fun likeable tanks” but then why even have mauga hog orisa in the game?
What we really want is more balanced in the community it used to be you could climb through the ranks if you were good enough solo and now you have to suffer extra (just because your teammates are bad/don’t know when to switch) it’s annoying to play with people that don’t understand how to play the game the way you crafted it which wasn’t always the case and now they realizing the game used to be a lot more fun before the changes they made. And look in whatever scenario you find yourself in there’s always gonna be that one person on the other team that’s the deciding factor for the win. that’s just how battles are won so Changing your game so that more people can easily emulate that energy with minimal effort is not good.
... imagine if the devs communicated better
Oh boy I can't wait for the 4th redefinition of Overwatch!
idk who is playing junkrat but them shots are crispy asf
Why not talk to someone like flats about balance? Someone who directly feels the result of the changes and understands how the games works where it counts better than most the devs likely do
No idea whats going on in community crafted OW but I’m having a lot more fun playing it
It’s okay, you’ll just hype up the next patch and season for a couple of days and say that Overwatch is in a bad spot rn
There's really weird them changing their ideas so often. Maybe they really don't know how to work on tanks and try different things and ideas to see what would stick best with the community...
I hate playing genji man. He's the character that got me into the game in the first place. And whenever I play him, always get countered. One Moira or a brig is fine. But the last time I played, 4 of them all switched to counters. Thankfully the tank didn't switch. I just wanna play my favorite character,I don't care about winning too much, but I wanna be able to at least play the game when I do lose yanno
Try playing ball, its a full team of counters pretty much every single game.
Yeah it’s sucks. This is basically what it’s like to play tank right now, especially if you pick a fun tank like Doom or Ball or Winton
@@dylancrosby2451 try junkrat, even more fun against busted dva
@@maxchess6734 i have and he's fun, but I'm a ball main, or at least I used to be. I have uninstalled until 6v6 comes back, tank isn't fun anymore.
@@dylancrosby2451 yeah dw, I feel you
Support should be able to do damage. Nobody wants to play a pure healing role.
Nobody wants to play a bullet sponge and cc sponge and do no damage where I feel like a ana with heal drone is more tanky than a doom
Tell that to the Mercy/LW players😂
Agree, be able to do damage but also heal, an equal balance
@@TonicalPhanto support in every role-based game has always been about maximizing non-healing value. It's hilarious to me that people complain about too much healing and nothing dying but also don't like when supports do damage and want them to only heal.
Not doing dmg on support is skill issue tbh rather add more utility other than healing
Some characters need more some need less, Doom and ball are countered by 90% of roster Yet someone like Orisa and zarya have very little counters
Thing is though, if you nerf the horse too much then Hog and the Samoan dominate the game. If you nerf Zarya then the horse legit has no counter and the match turns into Try Not to Get Stomped (Impossible).
Id rather orisa meta than hog mauga meta
This is why you contextualise this interview with the actual dev blog post which specifically states that they're gonna stop doing role reworks in favour of individual hero tuning.
@Elderskorp Zarya doesn't counter the horse anymore, she hasn't since Orisa got her infinite range buff (she can counter her hard counter.) It's far more situational.
@@MaverickX2TC Hell nah, Mauga and hog u just have to play anna
@@azseal2669 Nah on most maps zarya still counters
I don’t think they want less counters, they want less players. At least that’s what the avg. player count is hinting at
I swear, if they try claiming that "OW2 was always a team game" and want to make the game "less solo focused", Im going to lose it.
Not because I dont want it (because I do) But because this would be the final nail in OW2's coffin. People are already saying "what makes OW2 a sequel to OW", and that would just be the last straw
Now’s who’s moving the goal post Mr freedo? (I love freedo but GAWD DAMN)
Give Mauga a boot from the hero pool and punish counter swapping maybe. Then I might play this game again.
Since the viral video of everyone swapping
Supports had to become scrappy because they removed the offtank who would normally be peeling and bodyguarding, so???
what are all these bots cuh 😅
Its almost if the people who actually had a vision for the game (Jeff Kaplan) left a long time ago 😂😂
If tanks had lifesteal, that would lower the need for a hard pocket
Only kinda related, but I've never understood why Junker Queen's damage over time and lifesteal are so miniscule when her kit is generally a worse version of Roadhog who has a risk-free, self-healing-with-40%-damage-reduction button. She has the weaker shotgun, a weaker "hook", an ult that's way less geared towards taking/controlling space, and all to account for what? The fact that her weaker shotgun is hitscan and her weaker ult applies antiheal? And that she has a slow axe for burst damage that's harder to land and way more risky than anything Hog has to do? Like why does the more fun hero get the weaker toys across the board? She doesn't have some great movement ability to make up for it, just her ult, which is situational as far as movement needs are concerned
@@HontoNeetIt was really good for like 2 weeks ages ago and then they nerfed it
Then tanks become practically unkillable with a pocket.
Solution is 6v6
@@HontoNeet its probably due to her sped, like a few seasons back jq was pretty unkillable because of a small percentage and when she got micro nerfed it affected her a lot more than it should
Their team feels like idiots who happened to have programming degrees
What about an analog hero that sombra cant hack? Sombra is so bad for the health of the game😂
that should in theory be soldier but nope. like he cant run if he's hacked? it makes no sense.
When are we gonna just accept no matter what they say publicly they're just so terribly dog shit at balancing that they end up going completely in the wrong/opposite direction. And then gotta be like no wait that's actually what we wanted and then everyone boos them and then they gotta damage control again and say no wait it was the first thing. These devs sound like that one loser kid that keeps changing the rules so he doesn't lose in a game he made up in the first place but they're so stupid and bad at everything that they always end up losing no matter what they change because they're terrible. Skill issue NGL.
Damn
I like hard counterpicking
Game is more diverse that way
Without it, why does ov even need a "switch while im game" option?
Make it like in moba or paladins, you lock in before the game and deal with it.
You would make otps happy
The only thing to kill Overwatch was Overwatch……. Well time to wait for Marvel Rivals
When upper management okay'd the change. Don't worry they'll still gouge the playerbase but as long the youtubers and influences continue supporting it then you'll get the old bad metas again
Damage over time effects ruined this game. I'm so tired of Mauga existing, being able to fire both guns at the same time. I'm tired of Blizzard's idea of balance being adding more and more passives. I'm sick of entire gamemodes being ignored when all it would take it fix is some very simple tweaks... tweaks that already exist as a custom game preset.
They just want to make supports pure heal bot without removing their ability to do damage
need a second tank or the game just doesn't work
Just go back to 6v6 and make some adjustments for the format & boom we back to Ow1 glory days
Mate, you know very well that isn't going to happen. I don't even fully know if I can disagree, but please stop bitching about it.
Less hard counters but balls counters are the most brain dead possible characters in the entire game 😂😂😂😂😂
This dev seems delusional
me as a junk when pharah is swapped to
Madge
seriusly everytime
im jsut chillin and then boom pharah
Pharah isn't too much of a problem tbh. I mainly hate dva
@@maxchess6734 the other problem is that they jsut want the ez to take care of junk when u dont need to do it
literally jsut playing diffrently is a soft counter
dva eh big hitbox so yeah and DM is slightly annyoing but at least she cant attack while using DMG besides for MM
@@noahedenborg4221 dva kills a 250hp junkrat in 1 sec from mid range :{
@@maxchess6734 is the junk moving around
u know
using his bombs to dodge
@@noahedenborg4221 well yeah, but then that means you're never flanking and always needing your team to heal you, meanwhile the dva prevents you from getting any damage by eating half of your grenade.
Well, we probably have different junkrat experiences and playstyles.
Oh hey blizzard going back on themselves! Need a live counter how many days since the last time they did this
Can we just revert back to a 2018 patch at this point? At least open a server for us
It's progressing badly because you can't balance 5v5. If only there was a solution...hmmmm...
It's shocking how long its taking people to realize that 5v5 is a fundamentally flawed format.
Just bring back loot boxes
Since when is Justin Trudeau an over watch dev
The tank changes did nothing. Qp is full of sweats. Being forced to swap off of the hero i wanna play because otherwise i can't play. I'm relatively new to the game but already thinking about uninstalling again. Why not make it 6v6, atleast as an arcade mode or something. I desperately need a tank teammate
Watched for junk rat tip 😂 I’m watching the gameplay to see how to play better.
*fewer
Make doomfist dps again.
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Avg players skill has decreased so much since launch of ow 1. They dont even realize the game is about countering or being good enough to work around counterswaps smh
Whats funny is Jeff knew all of this when working on OW1 but new devs have to learn everything through trail and error
It's because the dev team is incompetent
They are back paddling on the back paddling
So I guess forward pedaling idk
Dev team copying hi Rez is sol Funny
Dont heal your tank to win. Tanks keep dying even though youre winning. No one wants to play tank because theyre kept dying!!!!
TF2's janitor would be a better developer than this team.
Counter picking shouldnt be a part of overwatch. Its annoying. I wanna play the characters I like, but in its current state my only avenue to JUST play the character I like is quickplay, and even that gets annoying cus people will bitch and moan at you for not changing your character to counter pick their counter pick. I wanna play OVERWATCH not fucking yugioh
Wtf is going on at Overwatch? I'm just waiting to see how bad they'll fuck up the transformers collab to decide whether I stay or go cause atm. They've removed Archives AND the campaign so Overwatch 2 has given me 0 reasons to keep playing lately
If a support’s damage exceeds their healing by more than 50%, their attack powers should locked off until they heal more
Biggest L design take.
If you do 100 healing and 151 damage, you can't damage anymore? They're basically the same.
What if you're a low-healing support like Zenyatta? Good luck catching up and just sitting doing nothing while you wait to be allowed to contribute to the fight again.
What if your team is just steamrolling and killing everyone before you can heal them? What if they die before you can heal them and you are left 1v5 against the enemy team without the ability to do anything? Guess you'll just roll over and die.
I understand that supports can do a lot of things, but they are not and should not just be healbots. Nobody wants that, and it's not good design.
@@untapped8776 from your comments I can only assume you don’t play tank. I don’t mind supports that do a bit of shooting but if they want to dps they should queue dps, not queue Lucio and go on side missions that leave the team to die
@@untapped8776 and pro tip: if you’re playing support and it’s you 1v5 you should have healed instead of whatever you were doing
@@surturz just heal thru the 1 shot, just heal thru mauga melting the tank, just heal thru bastion turret. Blud, healing can only do so much. "Just heal" doesnt magically work, especialy when your team is being dumb and break the sight lines. Fucking zenyatta ult can be outdamaged thanks to the dps passive. Healing aint gonna do all that much
@@dollscentedhunter2514 spoken like a true dps Moira main
I want fucking more counters
6v6
Dude, it's a lost cause. Just stop, it's not going back.
Skill issues learn to play against counter
Overwatch will never be fun or balanced everything they try and everything I could think of means game breaking changes. Dosen’t seem possible
Im a genji main and the enemy team switches to zarya, sym, sombra/mei and moira almost every time
Really? Instead of countering the tank? I wish I could get into your games.
@Kyle_Evers dude zarya is in at least 75% of my games because in gold even if she's low hp they will not break her bubble and kill her. They'll shoot it just enough to give her charge and then completely leave her alone. I kinda sound like I'm whining and saying bad teammates but I'm a master kiri main so being aggressive is engraved in my brain but even if it's a 5v3 golds will continue to poke and not try to stagger their team and I'll die because I didn't look back to see my entire team emoting on the point
6v6
You and I know both know it isn't going to happen. This doesn't add anything to the conversation, so stop.