I’m honestly looking forward to seeing how Hwa performs now. I haven’t used her at all since the change so maybe this will change that. I might finally build my Celine as well.
I understand how initially it looks like a lot of bad, but I think overall we got a good list of once-meta characters all getting a little push to give them a chance to come back. We can say Aux Lots is bad, maybe. The rest we have to wait and see.
I actually like Hwayoung's changes. It may seem like a nerf at a glance but I think it's more changing her use case and targeting supports and defense scalers. If she can 1 shot things like Destina or Abyssal Yufine then I think I can find a use for her. This all of course comes down to the numbers and we'll have to wait and see what things actually look like.
Same I wished they mentioned how much the damage is reduced and how much attack diff you need for full penetration...I also think she had her time to shine! There are a lot of bad units that need buffs
How is anyone even calling these Hwa changes bad, she was literally terrible. At least these changes mean you don't have to minmax her HP/atk statlines
@@ApexGale she barely kills with 100% def pen, 30% atk from passive AND atk buff. Now she loses 30% atk and her s3 damage reduced. You can make conclusion yourself.
At least when you went through the balance preview, you did it with a wait and see approach and not a scorch earth approach that I see many people doing.
Hey man can you make a video for newer players on who to pick with the recall RGB selector? Maybe even add a tier list? Lots of 6 month-1 year old account players lost in the sauce right now haha
Funniest thing in the patch: They still kept the ST requirement for hit-chance on Manica. So they'll be able to buff it again in 4 years to remove that too LUL
Why? I feel the only nerf is second skill cool down but other than that it seems pretty op to me. Soul burn and push a unit, then s3 to aoe strip and silence lol that sounds really good imo. Maybe there's something I didn't see.
@@reinaldodiaz5760 whenever you use a unit for PvE auto, and they mess with CDs, suddenly your teams don't work like you want them to. To me, A.Lots is a PvE unit, the only buffs I want for him are ones that don't fundamentally change the way he works. Furthermore, the changes they made to him don't improve my (already low) usage of him in PvE in any way. So I'm probably going to swap him out. Which is ironic since I'm guessing they make changes for people to use the units more.
Ngl, I'm very butthurt about the change on Aux Lots' s2. I had him on Spirit's Breath so he could constantly push my Ram in the Ice Expo :(.. I was so proud of myself for thinking of it, and now it's going away.. Also, I was hoping they were gonna make Momo's s1 unable to cause a dual atk like most other units with a sleep s1 have.. but still a solid buff; I'll always be happy about more consistent effect chances. Other than those, I'm looking forward to how this patch turns out.
No hate for SG, but I'm curious on what were they thinking when deciding whose gunna get buffed. I reckon those 3 MLs got buffed couple of times. The least that they can do is to try to listen to their consumer base or try to change something on those untouched units such as Arby and BM.Haste.
They are trying to push sales, ML celine, ML spez and judge kise are all on the mystic summon banner. I think they might time their buffs to the schedule of the banners.
I am happy you can build hp on Hwa now. It might make things a bit easier for her, not so happy about needing to rework her build for that. She kinda just got turned into a typical cleave type now, which is boring.
E7 really likes this effectiveness thing they're doing. ALots seemed fine. No ML Landy nerf or ml haste buff of course. I detect the ML Landy nerf coming after the arena season ends.
To be fair ml Landy doesn't need a nerf as there are so many units that shut her down now. But I do agree on the ml haste buff as he is one of the most useless ml5 this game has at the current state.
I appreciate the hwayoung buff, don't get me wrong, but I'm still upset. I personally crafted specific gear for a triple torrent no health set.. and for what. nothing now.. I used both gear sets that I got to choose the rolls on to make that gear...
Lately what SG does best it reaching for our money releasing two limited units back to back and after that some other that looks like must pull. With this patch I though it's their trick to pull for more cash if they make on banner units a must pulls but they decided to surprise us with what they do second best, disappointment 😥 I don't know which direction this game is going but it doesn't look bright.
Hwa seems okay, just need to see actual dmg at s3 and s1 after buff. At least now she not unit that just exist for 1 round and can be built bulky, fast and can deal with most def scaling meta unit right now. Hope her max penetration effect not need too much attack different so she can deal with more unit with her s3.
Spez is going to be broken, mark my words. That evasion buff allows me to build him with 16k HP/ 180 speed/4.2k att/ 342critdmg/ 100 crit. On pen set and shepherd as the artifact. This allows Spez to do 19.5K without stun. With attack buff that goes up to 29K without stun MLDB may be best in slot tho. You won’t even want to attack him so he doesn’t get a free attack buff
Evasion definitely is better than the weird counter attack shit, it’s just weird that they gave him evasion when briar is one of the most picked units.
interesting. Will have to see, but I think Spez and (especially) A.Lots need a recall option. I'd be more okay with Spez's change if they'd have given him evasion with "when he successfully evades, counter attack", similar to violet.
I hate the judge “buff”. They don’t understand that she has to 1 outspeed 2 has to land the hit then 3 she has to have the amount of eff to strip then 4th she has to land the reset. The reason why I loved her so much was because she had the 3 individual chances to reset. It’s not like she has a soul burn to force the reset like lua and nakkual and even if, it’s a damaging skill so on its face she’s already weaker on paper. To me this is an overall loss. I’m really disappointed with her “buff.”
I dont play E7 anymore but a lot of these changes seem fairly boring, kind of knee jerk changes imo. Judge Kise having that double chance to increase cd was her identity, now shes just apart of whats "strong". Spez even dated has been adapted to a niche enjoyed unit now hes apart of whats "strong". I just feel character identity is important and being niche isnt a bad thing, the meta will shift however it will want but as long as we keep characters the way we remember them then its all good but sheesh I hope everyone adapts to who are still playing.
Its poor for that they delayed.... JKise is then only buff, whats easy, because she was really bad. ALots is nerf, SPec feels too, the rest is mix up, not needed, or feels like nothing. That balance team should be fired.... or greatly buffed.
Spez and ALots are the only obvious L’s imo Juggs is much better. Seline is good. More damage is always good. They just flipped where she gets her lifesteal. I genuinely think Hwa is a wait and see. Elena is a simple but needed buff. Achates, meh. Artifacts, technically a buff but meh. Laika, good. Need some more sleep in the game to justify ML Sharun’s existence lol. This patch wasn’t amazing but I see a lot of overreacting which is a little understandable because it stems from the built up frustrations from these past couple of months of incompetence from SG
Spez change is an absolute W. Stick him on Decrescent now for an even higher counter chance and he's basically Light Violet now with resets on S3 kills. 70% Evasion with a 30% chance to counter on maxed Decrescent, chance to stun and CR push on Counters. He actually went from only usable in Arena offenses to potentially very draftable in RTA
The Hwa buffs seem awesome. People calling it a nerf are tripping. They just moved the attack passive to the attack buff is all. And want us to build into damage instead of health which is a good idea. Jkise buffs are amazing!!! Everything else im okay with.
The problem is that she does less damage if someone on your team can buff atk ( something that 90% of the players that still use Hwa today do) . Her major problem is that after her S3, she does absolutely nothing.
Can you kill something with hwa without atk buff? Because you cant buff atk on top of her passive now. And her s3 dmg reduced. Definitely awesome buff!
I mean her attack buff now has a pretty rough condition of needing to not be debuffed to even activate. There are so many debuffs flying around in the meta. ML Yuffine just needs to breathe on her from a counter before she gets immunity and she is debuffed. There is also buff strip, unbuffable. It's an interesting change for sure but it's really up in the air how well she'll work now.
You looks like clown dude. Now we have 30% stats buff and can get atk or greater atk buff, which add 50-75% to stats. NOW - not only we lose 30% of her stats, but also get s3 dmg decreased, not to say she need to be out of debuffs to get stats up. Are you sure that this can be called as *buff*?
Honestly u cant nerf what's already bad. And this is the laziest patch i've seen and honestly i thought they were lazy before... But now... It's a new low
@@z3p.hyr_ I don't really have much issue with her tbh...but I have ml Elena which negates counterattacks. Now J.Kise will have disable counterattack debuff. Sucks that only ML5* can easily counter her atm tho.
@@shawnfee9107 yea but that's the problem; it's ridiculously hard to get ML5s without being p2w, and even if you do get one the chance that it's the one that you want will be low (except if it is from mystic pity). Not everyone has access to ML elena nor Jkise (me included); also, apparently units can still counter off of ML elena's S3, so if that 20% procs (greater if ML Landy has both counter set and Elbris), there is a chance that ML elena might die and then all will be for naught. Anyways sorry for the long reply lol, have a fantastic day.
@@z3p.hyr_ all good lol. Yea I know not everyone is lucky enough to have certain ml units. I'm ftp and I have 29 out of the existing 47 ml5* units, and I have enough galaxy coins to pick one of the units I don't have. That said, I've also been playing since launch...but I know ppl that have been playing as long as me that only have a hand full of ml5*. RNG be crazy lol. Have a good one!
Hwa is better now, idk what people are smoking. Currently she was in a state of "blow up one character and then die." With these changes you don't have to dodge HP subs and she still has built in crit resistance, so you build her bulky and she's still killing def scalers/soulweavers around 15-16k, most likely. And then if they decide to give her EE, all she needs is her S1 push back and she becomes a cycling god again.
She only gets the atk buff with no Debuffs and is losing her shield every turn.. what’s the point of s3 cleansing if she needed it at the start of the turn for her to get the atk buff. Unless s1 does huge damage to make up for it, which I doubt. I’ll be surprised if she can kill units with over 18k health
@@Er059 the point of s3 cleansing is to get rid of any atk downs or non hard CC spells so she can gain immunity and barrier on her first cycle. with 30% crit resistance still a part of her kit and now able to build bulk, the point of her kit now seems to be "s3 for self util on turn 1, cycle s1s for 3 turns, threaten lethal on turn 4 when s3 is back up" since s1 is getting buffed and is now her new 10 soul burn, you probably want to move her back onto Uberius and build her with ER She doesn't need to kill units with over 18k hp. The most lethal characters right now hover at 15k. NCLandy, AYufine. Hell, the fact that she doesn't crit means she'll be great to deal with MAKen. With this kit, now she can get an EE that makes her really good.
explain. how? by giving her def pen on s1? strip all buffs, can't counter, def break, and extra turn soul burn on s2? at the cost of the 65% def break on s1, hit chance decrease on s2, and 2nd instance of cooldown increase on s3?
Honestly it feels like my spez only counters against Lionheart, so I don’t mind the change
freaking facts
I’m honestly looking forward to seeing how Hwa performs now. I haven’t used her at all since the change so maybe this will change that. I might finally build my Celine as well.
Same. After Hwa was nerfed, I stripped her of her gear and put her in the waiting room. KEKW
Rip auto green expo with Alots
Thanks for always giving sm the benefit of the doubt because some of these players be butt hurt as soon as they see something they don't like.
First balance patch video of 2024! I'm reserving judgment on the patch itself, but hurray for the first patch video of the year!
I understand how initially it looks like a lot of bad, but I think overall we got a good list of once-meta characters all getting a little push to give them a chance to come back. We can say Aux Lots is bad, maybe. The rest we have to wait and see.
I actually like Hwayoung's changes. It may seem like a nerf at a glance but I think it's more changing her use case and targeting supports and defense scalers. If she can 1 shot things like Destina or Abyssal Yufine then I think I can find a use for her. This all of course comes down to the numbers and we'll have to wait and see what things actually look like.
Well, if she will be able to delete those mid range HP units like soulweavers she might get some game play
Same I wished they mentioned how much the damage is reduced and how much attack diff you need for full penetration...I also think she had her time to shine! There are a lot of bad units that need buffs
They actually did it again, please save Hwayoung
They had us waiting like this patch was going to be busted.....they added 1 line and a few %'s to majority of these units.
They delayed patch by 5 days just to give Hwa and Spez a proper burial. And let us not forget Alots,RIP.
FACTS
How is anyone even calling these Hwa changes bad, she was literally terrible. At least these changes mean you don't have to minmax her HP/atk statlines
You're a clown if you think Hwayoung changes are bad.
@@Aramintha then I'm clown,but clown who is right,sue me lil boy.
@@ApexGale she barely kills with 100% def pen, 30% atk from passive AND atk buff. Now she loses 30% atk and her s3 damage reduced. You can make conclusion yourself.
At least when you went through the balance preview, you did it with a wait and see approach and not a scorch earth approach that I see many people doing.
When I was doing a run with dumb units and I was using Laika I wanted exactly those changes!
Hey man can you make a video for newer players on who to pick with the recall RGB selector? Maybe even add a tier list? Lots of 6 month-1 year old account players lost in the sauce right now haha
Funniest thing in the patch: They still kept the ST requirement for hit-chance on Manica. So they'll be able to buff it again in 4 years to remove that too LUL
Imagine if they changed spez's s2 to a passive like adin so he procs with the evade chance they gave him...
I hate the A.Lots changes
Why? I feel the only nerf is second skill cool down but other than that it seems pretty op to me. Soul burn and push a unit, then s3 to aoe strip and silence lol that sounds really good imo. Maybe there's something I didn't see.
@@reinaldodiaz5760 whenever you use a unit for PvE auto, and they mess with CDs, suddenly your teams don't work like you want them to. To me, A.Lots is a PvE unit, the only buffs I want for him are ones that don't fundamentally change the way he works.
Furthermore, the changes they made to him don't improve my (already low) usage of him in PvE in any way. So I'm probably going to swap him out. Which is ironic since I'm guessing they make changes for people to use the units more.
Oh I see, I mostly think about PVP in general so that's why to me it sounds good but still we will have to see. Thanks man.@@luisfiliperosa7511
Just more proof that SG hates Husbandos. The spez buff (nerf) is a joke and what they did to lots was just uncalled for. trash patch 2/10
Ngl, I'm very butthurt about the change on Aux Lots' s2. I had him on Spirit's Breath so he could constantly push my Ram in the Ice Expo :(.. I was so proud of myself for thinking of it, and now it's going away..
Also, I was hoping they were gonna make Momo's s1 unable to cause a dual atk like most other units with a sleep s1 have.. but still a solid buff; I'll always be happy about more consistent effect chances.
Other than those, I'm looking forward to how this patch turns out.
No hate for SG, but I'm curious on what were they thinking when deciding whose gunna get buffed. I reckon those 3 MLs got buffed couple of times. The least that they can do is to try to listen to their consumer base or try to change something on those untouched units such as Arby and BM.Haste.
They are trying to push sales, ML celine, ML spez and judge kise are all on the mystic summon banner. I think they might time their buffs to the schedule of the banners.
@@revandaharjono9524 it's nice of them to include the ML5s that are being buffed in the current rotation
why do u mention that Seline Possession can be stripped lol
I am happy you can build hp on Hwa now. It might make things a bit easier for her, not so happy about needing to rework her build for that. She kinda just got turned into a typical cleave type now, which is boring.
E7 really likes this effectiveness thing they're doing. ALots seemed fine. No ML Landy nerf or ml haste buff of course. I detect the ML Landy nerf coming after the arena season ends.
To be fair ml Landy doesn't need a nerf as there are so many units that shut her down now. But I do agree on the ml haste buff as he is one of the most useless ml5 this game has at the current state.
Very exciting. Can’t wait.
I appreciate the hwayoung buff, don't get me wrong, but I'm still upset. I personally crafted specific gear for a triple torrent no health set.. and for what. nothing now.. I used both gear sets that I got to choose the rolls on to make that gear...
Lately what SG does best it reaching for our money releasing two limited units back to back and after that some other that looks like must pull.
With this patch I though it's their trick to pull for more cash if they make on banner units a must pulls but they decided to surprise us with what they do second best, disappointment 😥
I don't know which direction this game is going but it doesn't look bright.
Why they do Alots like that though 💀
Me: Car what do you think of the patch?
Car: Booba!! J/K
Great video. 😝
Hwa seems okay, just need to see actual dmg at s3 and s1 after buff. At least now she not unit that just exist for 1 round and can be built bulky, fast and can deal with most def scaling meta unit right now. Hope her max penetration effect not need too much attack different so she can deal with more unit with her s3.
Spez is going to be broken, mark my words. That evasion buff allows me to build him with 16k HP/ 180 speed/4.2k att/ 342critdmg/ 100 crit. On pen set and shepherd as the artifact.
This allows Spez to do 19.5K without stun. With attack buff that goes up to 29K without stun
MLDB may be best in slot tho. You won’t even want to attack him so he doesn’t get a free attack buff
Evasion definitely is better than the weird counter attack shit, it’s just weird that they gave him evasion when briar is one of the most picked units.
@@MarkMay1 for real! It way better. I feel like he is better than Riolet now
With those stats he'll still get easily destroyed by LPK, Zahak, Briar etc. Especially with such low speed he'll never get a turn to do anything.
interesting. Will have to see, but I think Spez and (especially) A.Lots need a recall option.
I'd be more okay with Spez's change if they'd have given him evasion with "when he successfully evades, counter attack", similar to violet.
You again?? Are u hired by smilegate or something to hype up the changes? U literally copy posted this on another e7 channel.
I hate the judge “buff”. They don’t understand that she has to 1 outspeed 2 has to land the hit then 3 she has to have the amount of eff to strip then 4th she has to land the reset. The reason why I loved her so much was because she had the 3 individual chances to reset. It’s not like she has a soul burn to force the reset like lua and nakkual and even if, it’s a damaging skill so on its face she’s already weaker on paper. To me this is an overall loss. I’m really disappointed with her “buff.”
Spez and arowel gonna thing now i guess
Big nerf to alots. The rest of the changes seem ok.
I dont play E7 anymore but a lot of these changes seem fairly boring, kind of knee jerk changes imo. Judge Kise having that double chance to increase cd was her identity, now shes just apart of whats "strong". Spez even dated has been adapted to a niche enjoyed unit now hes apart of whats "strong".
I just feel character identity is important and being niche isnt a bad thing, the meta will shift however it will want but as long as we keep characters the way we remember them then its all good but sheesh I hope everyone adapts to who are still playing.
demn.they "killed" Alot. put more "rng" they said. effectiveness buff? nah 15% all de way.
Sacred Tree Branch + Blingo meta incoming? 😂😂😂
Cleaners dusting off their judge kise
Hwa is absolutely buffed
Absolutely not buffed
2023 was already mid af and now they're starting off 2024 with an overall L. They need to get their shit together.
Easily the most tone deaf balance patch they have ever released.
Spirit eye celine S1 had its damage decreased. Dont know if its a typo or they still like to pass nerfs as green text
Yes but that defense pen makes up for it plus the 25% attack. It's balanced now with some trade offs. I approve
@@Shindy117We don't know the multipliers yet, and if it's done in a way that keeps the damage equal, you can't really call it a buff.
@axethor fair. But that 25% and the utility changes makes it so in my mind. My opinion
They did fucking same to Bellona s3. with cut dmg to buffed target, but *increase* atk - as result she deal less dmg
I’m happy about what they did to Seline and especially Judge Kise but yeah, it’s gonna be hard to gear Jk cause her base SPD is so low
Its poor for that they delayed.... JKise is then only buff, whats easy, because she was really bad. ALots is nerf, SPec feels too, the rest is mix up, not needed, or feels like nothing. That balance team should be fired.... or greatly buffed.
Spez and ALots are the only obvious L’s imo
Juggs is much better. Seline is good. More damage is always good. They just flipped where she gets her lifesteal. I genuinely think Hwa is a wait and see. Elena is a simple but needed buff. Achates, meh. Artifacts, technically a buff but meh. Laika, good. Need some more sleep in the game to justify ML Sharun’s existence lol.
This patch wasn’t amazing but I see a lot of overreacting which is a little understandable because it stems from the built up frustrations from these past couple of months of incompetence from SG
Souline got more pen but decreased dmg thats not increase car read it wrong. So depending on numbers she could still do the exact same dmg as before
we need to test hwa dmg, if it turns out the dmg is enough to kill chars at the 15-16k hp range then she's valid. if it's not, then it's an issue.
Spez change is an absolute W. Stick him on Decrescent now for an even higher counter chance and he's basically Light Violet now with resets on S3 kills. 70% Evasion with a 30% chance to counter on maxed Decrescent, chance to stun and CR push on Counters. He actually went from only usable in Arena offenses to potentially very draftable in RTA
A.Lots getting nerfed feels bad 😭 I don't use Spez so it's whatever. Hwa getting gutted aside from having her legs broken
Feels meh, no nerfs either
The damage on Spirit Eye Celine is reduced, not increased… 😢
Give back Alot. I totally dont need this buff
*Alright Boys! Send the Trucks!*
The Hwa buffs seem awesome. People calling it a nerf are tripping. They just moved the attack passive to the attack buff is all. And want us to build into damage instead of health which is a good idea. Jkise buffs are amazing!!! Everything else im okay with.
The problem is that she does less damage if someone on your team can buff atk ( something that 90% of the players that still use Hwa today do) . Her major problem is that after her S3, she does absolutely nothing.
@Kondola so if I buff someone on my team Hwa suffers. Okay then 👌
Can you kill something with hwa without atk buff? Because you cant buff atk on top of her passive now. And her s3 dmg reduced. Definitely awesome buff!
I mean her attack buff now has a pretty rough condition of needing to not be debuffed to even activate. There are so many debuffs flying around in the meta. ML Yuffine just needs to breathe on her from a counter before she gets immunity and she is debuffed. There is also buff strip, unbuffable. It's an interesting change for sure but it's really up in the air how well she'll work now.
You looks like clown dude. Now we have 30% stats buff and can get atk or greater atk buff, which add 50-75% to stats. NOW - not only we lose 30% of her stats, but also get s3 dmg decreased, not to say she need to be out of debuffs to get stats up. Are you sure that this can be called as *buff*?
Honestly u cant nerf what's already bad. And this is the laziest patch i've seen and honestly i thought they were lazy before... But now... It's a new low
Aahh so this is why everyone hates smilegate balance patches. The devs dont know what they're doing. They dont know the meaning of buffs and nerfs.
Real they really need to take care of ml landy imo: she’s waaay too broken
Yes.
@@z3p.hyr_ I don't really have much issue with her tbh...but I have ml Elena which negates counterattacks. Now J.Kise will have disable counterattack debuff. Sucks that only ML5* can easily counter her atm tho.
@@shawnfee9107 yea but that's the problem; it's ridiculously hard to get ML5s without being p2w, and even if you do get one the chance that it's the one that you want will be low (except if it is from mystic pity). Not everyone has access to ML elena nor Jkise (me included); also, apparently units can still counter off of ML elena's S3, so if that 20% procs (greater if ML Landy has both counter set and Elbris), there is a chance that ML elena might die and then all will be for naught. Anyways sorry for the long reply lol, have a fantastic day.
@@z3p.hyr_ all good lol. Yea I know not everyone is lucky enough to have certain ml units. I'm ftp and I have 29 out of the existing 47 ml5* units, and I have enough galaxy coins to pick one of the units I don't have. That said, I've also been playing since launch...but I know ppl that have been playing as long as me that only have a hand full of ml5*. RNG be crazy lol. Have a good one!
Hwa is better now, idk what people are smoking. Currently she was in a state of "blow up one character and then die." With these changes you don't have to dodge HP subs and she still has built in crit resistance, so you build her bulky and she's still killing def scalers/soulweavers around 15-16k, most likely. And then if they decide to give her EE, all she needs is her S1 push back and she becomes a cycling god again.
She only gets the atk buff with no Debuffs and is losing her shield every turn.. what’s the point of s3 cleansing if she needed it at the start of the turn for her to get the atk buff. Unless s1 does huge damage to make up for it, which I doubt. I’ll be surprised if she can kill units with over 18k health
@@Er059 the point of s3 cleansing is to get rid of any atk downs or non hard CC spells so she can gain immunity and barrier on her first cycle. with 30% crit resistance still a part of her kit and now able to build bulk, the point of her kit now seems to be "s3 for self util on turn 1, cycle s1s for 3 turns, threaten lethal on turn 4 when s3 is back up" since s1 is getting buffed and is now her new 10 soul burn, you probably want to move her back onto Uberius and build her with ER
She doesn't need to kill units with over 18k hp. The most lethal characters right now hover at 15k. NCLandy, AYufine. Hell, the fact that she doesn't crit means she'll be great to deal with MAKen. With this kit, now she can get an EE that makes her really good.
Trash ass patch smh. They literally do not care. Second of all where is ML Haste?!
They made J.Kise worse
No they didn't. Explain
Another clown just saying nonsense
explain. how? by giving her def pen on s1? strip all buffs, can't counter, def break, and extra turn soul burn on s2? at the cost of the 65% def break on s1, hit chance decrease on s2, and 2nd instance of cooldown increase on s3?