Kegare is also in the Elden Ring dlc: The Putrescent Knight is literally a Knight made of putrefied flesh and bone from ancient stone ships that drifted to shore, and also underground, from the ocean. All of the Shadowlands is corrupted because it is where all manner of death drifts and of the deaths in Marika's purge. It was so bad that she had to seal that world away rather than try to cleanse it properly.
To be honest, this theme has been in From Soft stories since King's Field. The corruption grows worse the deeper you get in the Royal Cemetery, the deeper you dig closer to the Meteor that landed in the island, and the closer you get to the Royal Castle, and the closer to the bottom of the Ancient City you get. It's not quite the same or sophisticated as Miyazaki's era, but the company's games have always touched on this Kegare theme, and the rot lies at the bottom or epicenter of things.
yes! I did a series on King's field a few years ago and I loved discovering just how much of modern From can be seen as early as back then! th-cam.com/play/PL69F-0ER21JD59uAJn8KyJ2WXKTMBEdcy.html
@@AesirAesthetics Oh I've seen those, long time lurker viewer. It's mostly due to my own personal situation I have nether the money nor hardware to play their later entries so my first-person knowledge lays in having played their earliest titles, I just figured I'd chip in Miyazaki's era has just been building on a thematic to their games that's been present since basically Day 1, in some shape or form.
@@daspotato while I think there are some similarities, I don't think Kings Field specifically touched on Kegare. It's Abuss that became closer to the meteor, not corruption specifically. Later games only prove this. The monsters are more natural and "beautiful", down to earth. Kings Field 4 perfectly highlights this uniqueness of the series. It's more natural. Even the monsters that were corrupted by the abyss look good. Even the monsters in Dark Reality look more biologically formed, and the giant crystal golems look "perfect". So I think Kings Field is more than just that.
We also can't forget that Miyazaki was an avid Kings Field fan. Almost certainly it's a fundamental inspiration for the soulsborne narratives. Demon's Souls also wasn't just his brain child AFAIK. He was brought into the project. These themes and the ways they're visualized IS Fromsoft. I'm sure we could find them even in Evergrace and Armored Core. I haven't played much Enchanted Arms, but I have no doubt it's got a grim dark twist somewhere that smells like Kegare lol
"The king is preferable to the shadowy schemers because he is seen. When power flows into the shadows it grows wild. The longer the world persists without a formalized structure administered by someone, the more the world will breed horrors."
Wonderful video, so marvelously scripted and edited, clear and concise but also deeply informative and evocative. Definitely some of your best work IMO. Bravo! I eagerly await the next installment.
You taught me the prevalence of Kegare and it's made me appreciate the themes and games so much more, seriously thank you so much! You got the best quality content on Souls imo
Have not watched video yet, but find a much of Media depicting Kegare, the most insidious and dangerous Kegare is are more often created or amplified by a society based on obsession with maintaining with the venerire of “purity” without addressing the real underlying problem or labeling things as Kegare just because they don’t like the thing. Those most obsessed with avoiding filth are usually the characters most contaminated source of true Kegare.
I feel like (much like the game as a whole), Godwin is woefully absent from this video. Lives (for lack of a better term) at the bottom of various high places, can't fully die, can't voluntarily change due to his soul's death, spreads corruption in the form of Deathroot, Death Blight, and Those Who Live in Death, has an extremely corrupted form reminiscent of some sort of deep sea creature. Pure kegare.
Hello Aesir!! Thanks so much for sharing this with us - for the past month or more, I've been thinking "flow comes from heaven" and I blame you for that 🙇🏻♂️ bless and stay safe sir 🙏🏻
There was a theory that Marika herself was that blind swordsman in disguise, reason being the shamans seen in windmill village wear blue cloth and dance.
@@andrewbowen2837 Now that I think about it, if were talking about shamans from Marika's village then no, they're actually more associated to The Gloam Eyed Queen with their garbs and found worship towards the Godskin Apostle. Additionally their enemy name is Dancers. 🤷♂ I still wouldn't rule out such a possibility though, we know Marika had oppressive intentions with the surrounding divinities. I would have loved to see more of this Fairy Outer God tbh.
Yes man yes Fromsoftware should hire you to do voice acting for them cause your voice has a special tone and also you are a Scottish they like that cause most of voice actors they hired were either Scottish or from England
I love the idea that the old one in Demon's Souls is breaching the barrier between dreams and reality, because I feel so strongly in my heart that if we had the language given to us by bloodborne, the colorless fog of Demon's Souls would absolutely be a nightmare. It's funny because I'm an Undertaker and the reason why I took this job was because my philosophy class we were talking about the caste system in India and this also applies to Japan, where the people on the bottom rung of society who are untouchable have to do jobs stained with death and filth. In
What if all this deep philosophy on kegare is just a thinly veiled distraction, and it really is just that Miyazaki likes poison swamps that much? Irregardless of how intricately woven the themes of kegare are in Miyazaki's games. All just a massive cover-up for his desire to make all of us suffer through even more poison swamps! Joking aside, fantastic video as always, Aesir. Looking forward to the rest of the series and the Silent Hill 4 rectrospective.
Unironically true! Miyazaki has even said that he didn’t realize he was so committed to the poison swamp aesthetic, but it makes sense. When corruption is a physical facet of your game world, there has to be a place for it to go. American religion is so obsessed with interior spirituality, like corruption coming from within, that we’re more likely to show our hells as being ones of our own making. Silent Hill 2 is of course the most popular SH to American audiences because it departs from the SH theme of demonology and makes the entire game about James’s inner demons brought to life. We are all imagining our own poison swamps, you just need to learn where your poison swamp derives from. Is it a blight on the land, a stain on your soul? Or is it the cries of the dead underneath your very feet? Indian burial grounds are everywhere in the US, it can be argued that we are the first country to have been born in a post-apocalypse of a continent-wide plague. Perhaps the real poison swamp is the one you drive past every day!
@llab3903 I decided to look into this, and it is quite fascinating. Long story short, yes, "irregardless" is a real word. It is literally just a synonym of "regardless." But the history of the word is fascinating, having been in use for over 200 years in both written and spoken English. In the vast majority situations in which it was used, "irregardless" was used in the same manner, unlike its less successful cousin, "unregardless," which did not have a uniform usage. Plus, something that needs to be kept in mind is that language is highly malleable. It isn't like English already doesn't have many redundant words without "irregardless" existing. And all languages evolve over time. So, having another word that redundant isn't hurting anyone.
I've made a map of all areas in modern From Software games by combining the flows of water. With one and half stretch it all fits rather well. If you consider waters of rejuvination and heavenly temple in Sekiro as a starting point, then, for example, Catacombs are such vastly deluted waters that re-animate skeletons because of this delution.
Regarding the Rune of Death and the state of the Lands Between, unsealing the rune still results in two speaking ghosts appearing in ashen Leyndell. Based on what the spirit outside the Death-Touched Catacombs says, these ghosts are undead, yet they still manifest even with the rune unleashed. The Rune of Death thus might not be properly delivering on its purpose, and the rune killing souls even oddly seems to clash with both the Great Rune of the Unborn and whatever spirit world the Helphen is part of. Furthermore, during the Frenzied Flame ending, the Frenzied Flame appears to create a centipede sigil in the sky, as if to mock the world while destroying it. It also doesn't help that the Deathbirds' own equipment (namely the Sacrificial Axe) notes them as malevolent. Additionally, considering that Demon's Souls appears to establish that destroying the soul is the most severe sin, the Rune of Death seems like it wouldn't actually help Elden Ring's world. The Scarlet Rot might predate Marika's rise to power, since the Lake of Rot and the Uhl/Uld civilization the Scarlet Rot apparently destroyed are ancient. The Uhl/Uld ruins even look to long predate the Nox's underground cities they built upon their banishment. The nature of the Scarlet Rot affecting Malenia also suggests that the Scarlet Rot can work like an invasive fungus, attacking the living. IIRC, the Divine Dragon in Sekiro is named something like the "ningyo_dragon" in the game's files. A ningyo is akin to a mermaid, described as both soulless and cursed, and in some tales its flesh is said to provide extended life. This could also relate to Godwyn's mermaid-like body in Elden Ring, as his soul was destroyed yet his body survived (at least for a time). The undead in Elden Ring might relate to the false immortals in Sekiro thanks to this ningyo connection, along with the centipede imagery. For Bloodborne, the trophy for the Great One ending states that the Good Hunter will be able to lead humanity into a new era. However, this is only significant if From Software wrote the description rather than, say, Sony. Thanks for this video, AesirAesthetics!
22:41 Interesting, the mechanics of the games support this. The higher the player's resistance is to a status effect, the longer it takes for it to go away.
Listening to you talk about what cleans or prevents kegare, makes me wonder why it seems so similar to how ritual cleansing works in the religion of Islam. The things considered kegare/impure in shinto religion are actually also considered impure, in islam. And to clean it away, you would have to wash yourself in a cleansing ritual. There are even rules in Islam saying that one must not be impure, when participating in prayer. In my mind their similarities seem too many to be considered random. Anyways just food for thought :) I find the history and root of such concepts very fascinating
Equally hazardous environments, potentially? Islam was born in the desert where doing the wrong thing would get you killed. Japan is a secluded mountainous volcanic island where doing the wrong thing would get you killed in different ways. But even Judaism and Christianity have their own forms of Kegare and impurity and cleansing.
A large part of it is that a lot of religious practices are rooted in “What things do we do to keep us from dying” and making those religious tenants. In Islam prayer is something you do regularly every day, so if you keep yourself clean and pure when doing prayer, that means you keep yourself clean everyday. A lot of religious rules can be kind of traced back using this method. It’s very interesting and is part of the reason so many very different religions have a lot of similar rules. Like Kosher and Halal foods not including things that if cooked poorly can easily result in food poisoning and death.
23:29 Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the ashen ones of DS3 the failed lords of cinder, whereas the Lords of Cinder bosses (including Aldrich) are those who have successfully linked the fire before and been revived to do it once more?
Be productive with my day? My work day ended two hours ago, so no thank you. Instead, I'm going to continue my playthrough of elden ring while I listen to this
As Practioner ov Shinto and some other secret things. You do have a great deal ov knowledge on my brothers and sisters. Keep studying o child ov the dark.
The theme of pollution exists in all cultures around the world. It is not specific to Shintoism. The game basically uses an animism-based world setup. Gods are not in the sense of the great religions. Everything has a soul and every dead person can become a god.
I'm interested in the connection between a will to power, agency, and creation in the monarch or divine figures in these games. A comparison between Demon's Souls, DS2, DS3, and Elden Ring regarding how the ruler essentially creates the world, projects their own thought or being onto it
Really highlights the differences between Miyazaki's and non-Miyazaki's dark fantasy approaches in Fromsoftware. This is why Dark Souls 2 is much closer to the King's Field. And damn, I prefer King's field style dark fantasy. Especially in the Kf4 style. It's more abstract and natural. More "convincing".
the outer gods can simply be seen as natural aspects of the current world. I like to think the Golden Order didnt get much of a grasp or too early of a grasp of The Lands Between letting it fester and grow its own divinity. Deities of fire, death, rot, blood, and horns of gold.
Not sure i agree with the interpretation of Aldrichs answer to Aldias question. DS2 is a game that equated the concept of kegare most closely to the curse of the Undead, the main focus of the game. You wuite literally spread it though dying kver and over again, losing your memories, your conscious thought, what makes you a person. Aldia knows that both of the ages--either fire or dark--will still lead to stagnation. Even Vendrick tells us so, stating that he was told "with fire, a true king can harness the curse...a lie, but I knew no better." Aldias purpose.in the story, and the purpose of his ending, is to force the player to continue taking action. Its implied that you continue to struggle, to further your purpose of finding an answer to the curse of kegare in humanity. This is why Aldia says that there is no path. No one knows how to get rid of kegare permanently, or if its even possible. So the answer to Aldia isnt embracing kegare, but an endless quest to eradicate it.
You didn't talk about the high heights and deep lows of elden ring. The divine gate, eard tree raining light. How about that mount doom drake Bahyle dude, a corrupted height?
Kegare in Islam is basically the same. It is called Nijasa and Rijz. Almost exactly the same. Purification is also made through water while offering prayer and intention to bless the water. The heart is said to be the place Kegare will target and it will spread from there.
Remembering Spirited Away where we have a bathhouse for removing kegare and a kami of the river in Haku. Chihiro's parents turning in to pigs is basically the consequences of gluttony and greed. These sinful acts create kegare in the heart and in that spiritual place you can see the manifestation. But in reality we don't see this as it is the "unseen world" or "al-ghaib" in Islam. With Silent Hill and Fromsoft games we're in an "in-between" realm where we see these spiritual phenomena as physical manifestations that have form.
Wait, didn't Aldrich and the other Lords of Cinder actually link the fire in their ages? Like, they were brought back to do it again, but they all refused? Am I remembering that right?
Just some random ideas... Romina as a not optional boss, some bug guys of rot as gentle beings and Malenia might come back with her third blossom, as a true goddess of rot. Thoses things make me think that maybe Scarlet Rot might be a power that the world needs to truly reborn anew.... So maybe, maybe... From Software breaks its kegare in Elden ring 😅?
Interesting! Thank you for introducing me to this topic. I'm not 100% convinced it's only from this origin, though I am but a humble farmer. Really makes the noggin jog. Godspeed sir, and thanks once again: you are in the top 5 of my favourite creators on TH-cam. 🙇♂
I did a series on King's Field a few years ago and I talked about kegare quite a bit there th-cam.com/play/PL69F-0ER21JD59uAJn8KyJ2WXKTMBEdcy.html If I was going to name every example, this video would've been 5 hours long
You know, theres a quote from a certain anime that I feel is fairly relevant to the topic: "A sound soul resides within a sound mind, and a sound body"
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kegare fans eating today !!
Either a poor or an apt choice of words…🫤
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wow u did it u said the thing grats
finally some good food
THE LOATHESOME DUNG EATER
Finally Sophie can just point to you if someone wants to talk about Kagare. You have saved her.
:)
We straight disrupting the natural order with this one.
Kegare is also in the Elden Ring dlc: The Putrescent Knight is literally a Knight made of putrefied flesh and bone from ancient stone ships that drifted to shore, and also underground, from the ocean. All of the Shadowlands is corrupted because it is where all manner of death drifts and of the deaths in Marika's purge.
It was so bad that she had to seal that world away rather than try to cleanse it properly.
To be honest, this theme has been in From Soft stories since King's Field. The corruption grows worse the deeper you get in the Royal Cemetery, the deeper you dig closer to the Meteor that landed in the island, and the closer you get to the Royal Castle, and the closer to the bottom of the Ancient City you get.
It's not quite the same or sophisticated as Miyazaki's era, but the company's games have always touched on this Kegare theme, and the rot lies at the bottom or epicenter of things.
yes!
I did a series on King's field a few years ago and I loved discovering just how much of modern From can be seen as early as back then!
th-cam.com/play/PL69F-0ER21JD59uAJn8KyJ2WXKTMBEdcy.html
@@AesirAesthetics Oh I've seen those, long time lurker viewer. It's mostly due to my own personal situation I have nether the money nor hardware to play their later entries so my first-person knowledge lays in having played their earliest titles, I just figured I'd chip in Miyazaki's era has just been building on a thematic to their games that's been present since basically Day 1, in some shape or form.
@@daspotato while I think there are some similarities, I don't think Kings Field specifically touched on Kegare. It's Abuss that became closer to the meteor, not corruption specifically. Later games only prove this. The monsters are more natural and "beautiful", down to earth. Kings Field 4 perfectly highlights this uniqueness of the series. It's more natural. Even the monsters that were corrupted by the abyss look good. Even the monsters in Dark Reality look more biologically formed, and the giant crystal golems look "perfect". So I think Kings Field is more than just that.
We also can't forget that Miyazaki was an avid Kings Field fan. Almost certainly it's a fundamental inspiration for the soulsborne narratives. Demon's Souls also wasn't just his brain child AFAIK. He was brought into the project. These themes and the ways they're visualized IS Fromsoft. I'm sure we could find them even in Evergrace and Armored Core. I haven't played much Enchanted Arms, but I have no doubt it's got a grim dark twist somewhere that smells like Kegare lol
Aw yeah, I'm thinking it's kegare time
Kegare fried chicken 😍
"The king is preferable to the shadowy schemers because he is seen. When power flows into the shadows it grows wild. The longer the world persists without a formalized structure administered by someone, the more the world will breed horrors."
"The old world is dying, the new world struggles to be born, now is the time of monsters." seems a bit apt.
My favourite part is when Aesir mentions kegare
had to do it to em
AW YES Kegare squad rise up
Always a fan of dystopian things and Kegare endings feel dystopian.
Well presented video 👍
thank you :)
One of the best FromSoftware analyses I’ve ever seen. Great job man, I subscribed
thank you!
Another Banger! Can't wait for the rest of the series! #kegareboyz
1 down, 4 to go
Wonderful video, so marvelously scripted and edited, clear and concise but also deeply informative and evocative. Definitely some of your best work IMO. Bravo! I eagerly await the next installment.
Cult of Kegare rise up! The promised video is finally here!
You taught me the prevalence of Kegare and it's made me appreciate the themes and games so much more, seriously thank you so much! You got the best quality content on Souls imo
Impurities sink to the bottom, yet scum floats to the top. A curious conundrum, it makes my head shudder uncontrollably.
lol
Were getting out of the stagnant swamp with this one BOYS
But when you leave the swamp, you take a bit of the swamp with you
seems like a pretty roundabout way to say Miyazaki is a sadist who likes poison swamps
The auto subtitles change Marika by America 😂 " the stagnant life problem which America set in order " well, it cheks out.
oh no!
lol
No no, hes spitting right now
Definitely been waiting on this one, I always have great new insights to take back to each world, with me, after a new video
Have not watched video yet, but find a much of Media depicting Kegare, the most insidious and dangerous Kegare is are more often created or amplified by a society based on obsession with maintaining with the venerire of “purity” without addressing the real underlying problem or labeling things as Kegare just because they don’t like the thing.
Those most obsessed with avoiding filth are usually the characters most contaminated source of true Kegare.
I feel like (much like the game as a whole), Godwin is woefully absent from this video. Lives (for lack of a better term) at the bottom of various high places, can't fully die, can't voluntarily change due to his soul's death, spreads corruption in the form of Deathroot, Death Blight, and Those Who Live in Death, has an extremely corrupted form reminiscent of some sort of deep sea creature. Pure kegare.
One of the best video on Souls Lore
The final form of germ theory
Hello Aesir!! Thanks so much for sharing this with us - for the past month or more, I've been thinking "flow comes from heaven" and I blame you for that 🙇🏻♂️ bless and stay safe sir 🙏🏻
The Depp Sea Caryll Rune 🙏🏻😩😍🏴☠️
wtf I thought I fixed that?!?!???
Phenomenal as always Aesir, cant wait for the rest
Man you are incredible!
Absolutely spectacular video. Thanks again Aesir
thank you :)
Good stuff! Now when I see the poison swamps I will be filled with disgust
The Kegare King is back!
Stagnation...
Where the fountainhead waters pool deeply…
Awesome video
Kinda unrelated but anyone else already said you kinda sound like Gideon Emery? Because you really do, congrats on the narrating
I watched this whole video
Good video, you should do one on From's take on evolution; Chaos in DS, Crucible in ER , all of Bloodborne, & Coral in AC6.
really interesting video
Thank you :)
Another great video Aesir!
There was a theory that Marika herself was that blind swordsman in disguise, reason being the shamans seen in windmill village wear blue cloth and dance.
Are they shamans?
@@andrewbowen2837 Now that I think about it, if were talking about shamans from Marika's village then no, they're actually more associated to The Gloam Eyed Queen with their garbs and found worship towards the Godskin Apostle. Additionally their enemy name is Dancers. 🤷♂
I still wouldn't rule out such a possibility though, we know Marika had oppressive intentions with the surrounding divinities. I would have loved to see more of this Fairy Outer God tbh.
Honestly, I miss the Shadow Tower Abyss videos. I want more Ye Olde Fromsoft content.
in time
Yes man yes Fromsoftware should hire you to do voice acting for them cause your voice has a special tone and also you are a Scottish they like that cause most of voice actors they hired were either Scottish or from England
Lol he is Icelandic
@@irockmajorly that’s even better my G 🙂
I love the idea that the old one in Demon's Souls is breaching the barrier between dreams and reality, because I feel so strongly in my heart that if we had the language given to us by bloodborne, the colorless fog of Demon's Souls would absolutely be a nightmare.
It's funny because I'm an Undertaker and the reason why I took this job was because my philosophy class we were talking about the caste system in India and this also applies to Japan, where the people on the bottom rung of society who are untouchable have to do jobs stained with death and filth. In
Please do more of these "Recurring themes in From Soft games". I would like to see if I missed any on one of their games.
4 more planned :)
What if all this deep philosophy on kegare is just a thinly veiled distraction, and it really is just that Miyazaki likes poison swamps that much? Irregardless of how intricately woven the themes of kegare are in Miyazaki's games. All just a massive cover-up for his desire to make all of us suffer through even more poison swamps!
Joking aside, fantastic video as always, Aesir. Looking forward to the rest of the series and the Silent Hill 4 rectrospective.
Unironically true! Miyazaki has even said that he didn’t realize he was so committed to the poison swamp aesthetic, but it makes sense. When corruption is a physical facet of your game world, there has to be a place for it to go. American religion is so obsessed with interior spirituality, like corruption coming from within, that we’re more likely to show our hells as being ones of our own making. Silent Hill 2 is of course the most popular SH to American audiences because it departs from the SH theme of demonology and makes the entire game about James’s inner demons brought to life. We are all imagining our own poison swamps, you just need to learn where your poison swamp derives from. Is it a blight on the land, a stain on your soul? Or is it the cries of the dead underneath your very feet? Indian burial grounds are everywhere in the US, it can be argued that we are the first country to have been born in a post-apocalypse of a continent-wide plague. Perhaps the real poison swamp is the one you drive past every day!
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Irregardless isn’t a word. Just regardless
@@llab3903irregardless of the fact all words are just made up to mean something
@llab3903 I decided to look into this, and it is quite fascinating. Long story short, yes, "irregardless" is a real word. It is literally just a synonym of "regardless." But the history of the word is fascinating, having been in use for over 200 years in both written and spoken English. In the vast majority situations in which it was used, "irregardless" was used in the same manner, unlike its less successful cousin, "unregardless," which did not have a uniform usage.
Plus, something that needs to be kept in mind is that language is highly malleable. It isn't like English already doesn't have many redundant words without "irregardless" existing. And all languages evolve over time. So, having another word that redundant isn't hurting anyone.
I've made a map of all areas in modern From Software games by combining the flows of water. With one and half stretch it all fits rather well. If you consider waters of rejuvination and heavenly temple in Sekiro as a starting point, then, for example, Catacombs are such vastly deluted waters that re-animate skeletons because of this delution.
Always top quality content! Liked and two thumbs up!
Much appreciated :)
Yaaaaay kegare finally!
Regarding the Rune of Death and the state of the Lands Between, unsealing the rune still results in two speaking ghosts appearing in ashen Leyndell. Based on what the spirit outside the Death-Touched Catacombs says, these ghosts are undead, yet they still manifest even with the rune unleashed. The Rune of Death thus might not be properly delivering on its purpose, and the rune killing souls even oddly seems to clash with both the Great Rune of the Unborn and whatever spirit world the Helphen is part of.
Furthermore, during the Frenzied Flame ending, the Frenzied Flame appears to create a centipede sigil in the sky, as if to mock the world while destroying it. It also doesn't help that the Deathbirds' own equipment (namely the Sacrificial Axe) notes them as malevolent. Additionally, considering that Demon's Souls appears to establish that destroying the soul is the most severe sin, the Rune of Death seems like it wouldn't actually help Elden Ring's world.
The Scarlet Rot might predate Marika's rise to power, since the Lake of Rot and the Uhl/Uld civilization the Scarlet Rot apparently destroyed are ancient. The Uhl/Uld ruins even look to long predate the Nox's underground cities they built upon their banishment. The nature of the Scarlet Rot affecting Malenia also suggests that the Scarlet Rot can work like an invasive fungus, attacking the living.
IIRC, the Divine Dragon in Sekiro is named something like the "ningyo_dragon" in the game's files. A ningyo is akin to a mermaid, described as both soulless and cursed, and in some tales its flesh is said to provide extended life. This could also relate to Godwyn's mermaid-like body in Elden Ring, as his soul was destroyed yet his body survived (at least for a time). The undead in Elden Ring might relate to the false immortals in Sekiro thanks to this ningyo connection, along with the centipede imagery.
For Bloodborne, the trophy for the Great One ending states that the Good Hunter will be able to lead humanity into a new era. However, this is only significant if From Software wrote the description rather than, say, Sony.
Thanks for this video, AesirAesthetics!
22:41 Interesting, the mechanics of the games support this. The higher the player's resistance is to a status effect, the longer it takes for it to go away.
It’s here!
Great video 😊
Listening to you talk about what cleans or prevents kegare, makes me wonder why it seems so similar to how ritual cleansing works in the religion of Islam. The things considered kegare/impure in shinto religion are actually also considered impure, in islam. And to clean it away, you would have to wash yourself in a cleansing ritual. There are even rules in Islam saying that one must not be impure, when participating in prayer. In my mind their similarities seem too many to be considered random. Anyways just food for thought :) I find the history and root of such concepts very fascinating
Equally hazardous environments, potentially? Islam was born in the desert where doing the wrong thing would get you killed. Japan is a secluded mountainous volcanic island where doing the wrong thing would get you killed in different ways. But even Judaism and Christianity have their own forms of Kegare and impurity and cleansing.
A large part of it is that a lot of religious practices are rooted in “What things do we do to keep us from dying” and making those religious tenants.
In Islam prayer is something you do regularly every day, so if you keep yourself clean and pure when doing prayer, that means you keep yourself clean everyday. A lot of religious rules can be kind of traced back using this method.
It’s very interesting and is part of the reason so many very different religions have a lot of similar rules.
Like Kosher and Halal foods not including things that if cooked poorly can easily result in food poisoning and death.
For the algorithm, thanks
7:53 "Must...contain...poop"
(But seriously tho good video)
😏
thank you :)
23:29
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t the ashen ones of DS3 the failed lords of cinder, whereas the Lords of Cinder bosses (including Aldrich) are those who have successfully linked the fire before and been revived to do it once more?
Be productive with my day? My work day ended two hours ago, so no thank you. Instead, I'm going to continue my playthrough of elden ring while I listen to this
Amazing video
great video thanks!
Glad you liked it, I'd recommend the Enlightenment video next as it's the followup in the series
As Practioner ov Shinto and some other secret things. You do have a great deal ov knowledge on my brothers and sisters. Keep studying o child ov the dark.
Man, I can't wait for the next Miyazaki/From game
I believe I first came across kegare in JSF’s Dark Souls III video.
The theme of pollution exists in all cultures around the world. It is not specific to Shintoism. The game basically uses an animism-based world setup. Gods are not in the sense of the great religions. Everything has a soul and every dead person can become a god.
I'm interested in the connection between a will to power, agency, and creation in the monarch or divine figures in these games. A comparison between Demon's Souls, DS2, DS3, and Elden Ring regarding how the ruler essentially creates the world, projects their own thought or being onto it
Miyazaki loves this kegare theme so much he made elden ring as a representation of what it can do to a franchise
41:00 Wait I thought the Seedbed Curse made it impossible to be brought back through the Erdtree
Still waiting on the bloodborne buddhist hell video
Me too
the "themes of fromsoft" series will go into interesting places, you might see "the hells" video sooooon
@@RedWolfenstein me too
@AesirAesthetics BTW I love your videos and keep up the lord's work!
Really highlights the differences between Miyazaki's and non-Miyazaki's dark fantasy approaches in Fromsoftware. This is why Dark Souls 2 is much closer to the King's Field. And damn, I prefer King's field style dark fantasy. Especially in the Kf4 style. It's more abstract and natural. More "convincing".
Yeah, I think his artistic limitations are becoming a lot more obvious post-Elden Ring.
It gets repetitive. I was disappointed the story for Elden Ring didn't innovate, especially in the wake of Sekiro, which did
the outer gods can simply be seen as natural aspects of the current world. I like to think the Golden Order didnt get much of a grasp or too early of a grasp of The Lands Between letting it fester and grow its own divinity. Deities of fire, death, rot, blood, and horns of gold.
34:50 how have i never noticed the mushrooms wtf
they have the same shape as the lines on the Milkweed Rune btw
Kuon also explores this theme pretty in-depth, and it was long before Miyazaki. Have you ever played it, Aesir? I'd love for your thoughts on it.
Kagare! LFGooooooo!
So basically untouchability.
Hype!!!
Time to get in the Kegare ferrari. Vroom!
like the dark place the statue leads you to in In King's field The Ancient City
yes!
A dark force and deep waters
Not sure i agree with the interpretation of Aldrichs answer to Aldias question. DS2 is a game that equated the concept of kegare most closely to the curse of the Undead, the main focus of the game. You wuite literally spread it though dying kver and over again, losing your memories, your conscious thought, what makes you a person. Aldia knows that both of the ages--either fire or dark--will still lead to stagnation. Even Vendrick tells us so, stating that he was told "with fire, a true king can harness the curse...a lie, but I knew no better." Aldias purpose.in the story, and the purpose of his ending, is to force the player to continue taking action. Its implied that you continue to struggle, to further your purpose of finding an answer to the curse of kegare in humanity. This is why Aldia says that there is no path. No one knows how to get rid of kegare permanently, or if its even possible. So the answer to Aldia isnt embracing kegare, but an endless quest to eradicate it.
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Oh, and what about Armored Core 6? Miyazaki did that too~ 🌌
here's my video on it
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why isn't ash lake very kegare looking? it is much lower than blighttown after all?
You didn't talk about the high heights and deep lows of elden ring. The divine gate, eard tree raining light. How about that mount doom drake Bahyle dude, a corrupted height?
Heck yeah
Sophie get in here!!
Kegare in Islam is basically the same. It is called Nijasa and Rijz. Almost exactly the same. Purification is also made through water while offering prayer and intention to bless the water. The heart is said to be the place Kegare will target and it will spread from there.
I spelled it phonetically but if anyone was interested to look further use the spelling "najasat"
Remembering Spirited Away where we have a bathhouse for removing kegare and a kami of the river in Haku. Chihiro's parents turning in to pigs is basically the consequences of gluttony and greed. These sinful acts create kegare in the heart and in that spiritual place you can see the manifestation. But in reality we don't see this as it is the "unseen world" or "al-ghaib" in Islam. With Silent Hill and Fromsoft games we're in an "in-between" realm where we see these spiritual phenomena as physical manifestations that have form.
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also Princess Mononoke
Oh yeah? Been a while! I gotta rewatch! Thanks!
I don't fully understand what I just watched, but please give me more.
more is coming :)
Wait, didn't Aldrich and the other Lords of Cinder actually link the fire in their ages? Like, they were brought back to do it again, but they all refused? Am I remembering that right?
@@JJShurte that's right, I got that part weong
But what if the constant reuse of kegare themes is itself example of kegare stagnation?
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Just some random ideas... Romina as a not optional boss, some bug guys of rot as gentle beings and Malenia might come back with her third blossom, as a true goddess of rot. Thoses things make me think that maybe Scarlet Rot might be a power that the world needs to truly reborn anew.... So maybe, maybe... From Software breaks its kegare in Elden ring 😅?
The main Dark Souls 3 theme
Interesting! Thank you for introducing me to this topic. I'm not 100% convinced it's only from this origin, though I am but a humble farmer. Really makes the noggin jog. Godspeed sir, and thanks once again: you are in the top 5 of my favourite creators on TH-cam. 🙇♂
Does Armored Core's themes also count as Kegare?
STAGNATION
13:59 like in Berserk! :D
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40:40 reborn
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In italian you say 'Cagare' - 'To shit'
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I gave the 730 like on this video.
You forgot about kings field bro
I did a series on King's Field a few years ago and I talked about kegare quite a bit there
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If I was going to name every example, this video would've been 5 hours long
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You know, theres a quote from a certain anime that I feel is fairly relevant to the topic:
"A sound soul resides within a sound mind, and a sound body"
What anime?
@@NaturalSynthetic777 Soul Eater.
oh god not kegare again lol
Strangely enough japan is rotting away and none of them are trying to change. Same as the west to tho.
Certified Kegare Classic