Lifespan about 2 years until the Genos 3 comes out, then Genos 4, 5, then a new name again. This has been going on for a few decades, and will carry on for a few more.
The fact that you actually have the FM engine inside instead of sampled sounds is already a reason to buy this hehe. Great machine. Yamaha, my favorite music brand.
A great demonstration guys and it certainly is an upgrade on the Genos 1. However, quite a few of the styles that Paul was demonstrating are actually on the Genos (1). Perhaps a demo of a few more of the new styles would help to convince us Genos diehards to upgrade.🤔
for me,if you have the Genos 1, that's look not necessary to buy the 2. My friend , he play with the Genos 1 and just connect his macbook pro to play with virtual instruments like Keyscape and Trillian...to notch accPiano/Rhodes and Bass sound, and that's it.
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 yes,it’s true,the power of yam are the styles. You know, in real party time, you just need 10 styles, yaaa, like djay,that’s the comon ask for party time, undeed.
The sounds alone are fantastic. As soon as the styles are added into the mix, it’s lunch hour at the nursing home, which ruins it for me. I dunno, maybe less in the mix is better?
Still using the plastic matt finish top panel , after a while it changes texture with constant finger movements and looks tatty. Even the SX 900 has a matt black brushed top which does not mark.
I'm amazed at how many people commenting can slag Genos 2 off especially hearing how the pianos are a vast improvement over the previous Tyros and Genos pianos even though there is no way I could afford Genos 2. I admit I thought I was going to be underwhealmed at Genos 2 but if it means I might get a used Tyros 5 for a more reasonable price I'm not complaining.
Sound switching ?? Yes or no, these styles are very similar to what in the original. Also why was the screen blurred out when Paul was playing f certain styles and sounds. What are they hiding ??
I am blind and I’m wondering if there’s any possible way for me to use this. It looks very interesting but I’m worried that I would not be able to use it. Do you know if there’s anyway to use a screen reader or something like that so I could access all of the features?
Quick online check for the cost of upgrading a Genos (1) to the new one approx £3000. A Montage M6 is about £3200, or a Modx 6+ can be had for under a grand. In both cases you would still have your original Genos and a shed load of new sounds, including the DX7s if that's important to you. That's the direction I think I'm going in now.
When we made the video, Paul didn't want to share some of his settings before he had had a chance to fine tune his registrations, what a great keyboard though! 😀
Why is there still only one sound layer on the left hand. By now there should be at least two layers as per the old Casio CTX-3000 and 5000 at a far cheaper price point.
Beautiful performance. While 80s and 90s sounds are great, but what about the current 2023 and beyond sounds ??? And how about classic and emerging Indian (Bollywood) sounds? Thank you
Sounds fantastic. Does it have an adjustable swing parameter and various random settings for each track in the styles? Until designers put these things in to bring tracks to life, these arrangers will sound “too perfect” and mechanical.
Exactly the need for this keyboard, like the drummer in logic pro x, you have an axis X/Y like a joystick and you can play with the complexity of the drummer in realtime....top.
@@dont3222 it’s new algo for giga méga trilia compressing files 🤪. Crazy,the more comon ssd are 512/1 terra and the price is low. They use the politic of Apple i think😂
I play The Great American Songbook, so using a FM synthesis engine is not really something *I* would be using, but I have a question. Are we going to see 1980s era FM drum machines, if there were even any? Just looking at some of the older RX series drum machines, they even seemed to be 12-bit sampled. I'm sure that even if you went back to earlier sampling, there would be some people who would be looking for those sounds, if you're going to include a FM synthesizer. One of the other things that he was talking about was 3,200 One Touch Settings, but I was watching a video of another user who makes a LOT of Genos videos (Gen 1) and is totally enamoured with G2. He was commenting on the order of some of the OTS settings. I wondered why you just couldn't change them to what you wanted. I have an very old (relatively speaking) Korg PA series keyboard, and it literally a snap to redo the Single Touch Settings to what I want them to be, from sounds to effects to whatever, and save them along with the style. But, it would appear in Genos that I can't do that. Yes, I can save changes to the OTS, but it would appear that I can't overwrite the original, I have to save it somewhere else. I mean, if for some reason, I wanted to make changes to one or two OTS settings in every style, I would need to create an additional 800-1,600 User Styles. At least if I'm reading the manual correctly. Is this correct? Style Dynamics is another question I have. We know that most of the sounds are velocity sensitive, so this Style Dynamic, does it increase or decrease the velocity so we get a softer or louder sound (with different samples for some sounds), or is it something different? One of the other things is, obviously, there are certain styles that are made for specific songs. I'm sure they can be used for other songs as well, and the differences in the Intros (and probably Endings) would allow it to be used elsewhere. How many of the styles are 'song specific?' Again, for me, I don't play a lot of 80s and newer music, they seem kind of 'worthless', FOR ME. How many of the styles are designed like this? Of course, on the other hand, the person who plays out will love those styles, and for them, it's great.
Please tell me where the best quality comes from? Is it Recoding internally and transferring it to the USB stick or to an external Digital interface. Please tell me David? I am using the Genos2.
Tyros 5 is still a fantastic keyboard, as a matter of fact I almost bought one last year and wouldn't have regretted it. I might reconsider getting one in 2025 is I still want one and can get one for a reasonable price. I think we can expect Tyros 5's to come further down in price in the next few years.
More styles that sounds exactly like a very particular popular song… these styles Leaves nothing to creativity… the style that can basically be used with that certain song… I don’t think it’s worth upgrading
They missed a trick. I don't want a keyboard but I would like a top notch organ at a reasonable price. How difficult would it yave been for Yamaha to produce a keyboard that could easily and seemlesly attach to a second keyboard. Easy, but no.
@@samuelcharrier8164 I want more than a Hammond Clone. The Genos could be the basis of a relatively cheap home style organ. Thats what I meant about attaching a second keyboard in a seemless way but Yamaha don't want to do it for some reason. So we have the abortion that is the TRX system.
Infact I was using my genos and trying it with multipile youtube genos 2 videos im seeing no difference apart new styles and Fm synthesis , I will be skipping this one for sure
Chord Looper buttons - ok - but still NO EDITING facility for the recorded progressions. And would have been nice if the 8 progression loops could have default styles attached and saved in the file.
Br Yamaha I do have Yamaha PSR series but sadly they killed the beauty without tilt screen it should be tilt mode touch screen to feel the music journey ,inthat part KORG knew about it 😠,🇨🇦
Bonitos sonidos y todo... Pero el diseño, es FEISSSSSSIMOOOO! Parece de juguete... Es la razón principal para descartarlo! Prefiero KORG o incluso KETRON que por lo menos tienen la apariencia de teclados de verdad...
Wow utterly sensational, black white keys and a host of knobs including the two introducing it. Be still my beating heart! For Gods sake the world is teetering on global destruction and this is electronic crap supposed to enrapture us!
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Lifespan about 2 years until the Genos 3 comes out, then Genos 4, 5, then a new name again. This has been going on for a few decades, and will carry on for a few more.
The fact that you actually have the FM engine inside instead of sampled sounds is already a reason to buy this hehe. Great machine. Yamaha, my favorite music brand.
It not just the keyboard But the best is the entusiasm from this man
Including the FM sound engine looks like a great move…the old AWM e. pianos never ever had the true magic of the DX7 .
A great demonstration guys and it certainly is an upgrade on the Genos 1. However, quite a few of the styles that Paul was demonstrating are actually on the Genos (1). Perhaps a demo of a few more of the new styles would help to convince us Genos diehards to upgrade.🤔
We are pleased that you enjoyed the demonstration! Lots more videos to come...! 😀
Thankyou Paul and David, this is so much better than the teaser videos. Lots of detail in this one. I just need to get over and try it for myself. 😁
We are pleased you have enjoyed the video Mick! Yes absolutely, come on over! We look forward to seeing you.
At £5000 no way is this any better in sound than the Genos 1.a few more styles. That's it..
for me,if you have the Genos 1, that's look not necessary to buy the 2. My friend , he play with the Genos 1 and just connect his macbook pro to play with virtual instruments like Keyscape and Trillian...to notch accPiano/Rhodes and Bass sound, and that's it.
Youi ar a'ving a laugh !!
@@samuelcharrier8164
250 more styles over 550 of G-1 (40% more), making it 800 styles is just a few more for you!
@@mrityunjaytripathi5588 yes,it’s true,the power of yam are the styles. You know, in real party time, you just need 10 styles, yaaa, like djay,that’s the comon ask for party time, undeed.
It's not £5000 !!!
The sounds alone are fantastic. As soon as the styles are added into the mix, it’s lunch hour at the nursing home, which ruins it for me. I dunno, maybe less in the mix is better?
i can remember 6yrs ago we said this about Genos which i think is still great i can,t wait to get my Genos 2 which iz AMAZING GO TEAM YAMAHA
What a wonderful sound!!! So fresh and new! But for my grandma)
Still using the plastic matt finish top panel , after a while it changes texture with constant finger movements and looks tatty. Even the SX 900 has a matt black brushed top which does not mark.
I'm amazed at how many people commenting can slag Genos 2 off especially hearing how the pianos are a vast improvement
over the previous Tyros and Genos pianos even though there is no way I could afford Genos 2. I admit I thought I was going to
be underwhealmed at Genos 2 but if it means I might get a used Tyros 5 for a more reasonable price I'm not complaining.
Sound switching ?? Yes or no, these styles are very similar to what in the original. Also why was the screen blurred out when Paul was playing f certain styles and sounds. What are they hiding ??
I am blind and I’m wondering if there’s any possible way for me to use this. It looks very interesting but I’m worried that I would not be able to use it. Do you know if there’s anyway to use a screen reader or something like that so I could access all of the features?
would like to see a video compering Genos 1 to a Genos 2 side by side not sure its worth the £3000 it will cost to trade in and upgrade
You won’t find it here for sure
Nope you sure won't!
I swear you two are in love with each other£££££
awesome! very much looking forward to it!
can't believe that it has two sound engines in it and that you can use them at the same time!
We are so glad that you are as excited as we are!
Bof bof
A really interesting and informative demonstration. Thank you Paul and David. Just waiting to hear back from Epianos re part ex deal on Genos.
What I’d love to see from Yamaha is a synthesiser/arranger. The power of montage M mixed with this. Now that would be cool.
Quick online check for the cost of upgrading a Genos (1) to the new one approx £3000. A Montage M6 is about £3200, or a Modx 6+ can be had for under a grand. In both cases you would still have your original Genos and a shed load of new sounds, including the DX7s if that's important to you. That's the direction I think I'm going in now.
Great video but why is the screen blurred out
When we made the video, Paul didn't want to share some of his settings before he had had a chance to fine tune his registrations, what a great keyboard though! 😀
Korg pax5 is better , is a joke that genos 2 don't have smooth sound transition ,korg have that feature and is amazing .
This is my only Question -- seamless switching
Why you blured the Keyboard screen ??
Why is there still only one sound layer on the left hand. By now there should be at least two layers as per the old Casio CTX-3000 and 5000 at a far cheaper price point.
Hi Alan, you're ok, there are 4 layers now
Beautiful performance. While 80s and 90s sounds are great, but what about the current 2023 and beyond sounds ??? And how about classic and emerging Indian (Bollywood) sounds? Thank you
I cant get over how awful that extra bit of asymmetrical plastic around the screens looks. Yamaha had 7 years and thats their solution? Shocking.
Sounds fantastic. Does it have an adjustable swing parameter and various random settings for each track in the styles? Until designers put these things in to bring tracks to life, these arrangers will sound “too perfect” and mechanical.
Exactly the need for this keyboard, like the drummer in logic pro x, you have an axis X/Y like a joystick and you can play with the complexity of the drummer in realtime....top.
the biggest mistake in the history of Yamaha, I am very disappointed about Genos 2!
FUN and not a little bit expensive , especially when sold and bought in other countries
Great demo thank you very much.
Q: is the USB Audio output is just stereo or multichannel?
14:15 The new guitar sounds like the ones from Korg PA5X.
According to official Yamaha specs … internal memory (AWM sounds?) dropped from 58GB (Genos1) to 15GB (Genos2). That’s horrible, if true. Why?
They tried to make it lighter.
@@dont3222 it’s new algo for giga méga trilia compressing files 🤪. Crazy,the more comon ssd are 512/1 terra and the price is low.
They use the politic of Apple i think😂
So. Are the older models going still be expensive as the new models?
How are the music samples you start, interact with the notes you play yourself? For example they end when you do too
I play The Great American Songbook, so using a FM synthesis engine is not really something *I* would be using, but I have a question. Are we going to see 1980s era FM drum machines, if there were even any? Just looking at some of the older RX series drum machines, they even seemed to be 12-bit sampled. I'm sure that even if you went back to earlier sampling, there would be some people who would be looking for those sounds, if you're going to include a FM synthesizer.
One of the other things that he was talking about was 3,200 One Touch Settings, but I was watching a video of another user who makes a LOT of Genos videos (Gen 1) and is totally enamoured with G2. He was commenting on the order of some of the OTS settings. I wondered why you just couldn't change them to what you wanted. I have an very old (relatively speaking) Korg PA series keyboard, and it literally a snap to redo the Single Touch Settings to what I want them to be, from sounds to effects to whatever, and save them along with the style. But, it would appear in Genos that I can't do that. Yes, I can save changes to the OTS, but it would appear that I can't overwrite the original, I have to save it somewhere else. I mean, if for some reason, I wanted to make changes to one or two OTS settings in every style, I would need to create an additional 800-1,600 User Styles. At least if I'm reading the manual correctly. Is this correct?
Style Dynamics is another question I have. We know that most of the sounds are velocity sensitive, so this Style Dynamic, does it increase or decrease the velocity so we get a softer or louder sound (with different samples for some sounds), or is it something different?
One of the other things is, obviously, there are certain styles that are made for specific songs. I'm sure they can be used for other songs as well, and the differences in the Intros (and probably Endings) would allow it to be used elsewhere. How many of the styles are 'song specific?' Again, for me, I don't play a lot of 80s and newer music, they seem kind of 'worthless', FOR ME. How many of the styles are designed like this? Of course, on the other hand, the person who plays out will love those styles, and for them, it's great.
Please tell me where the best quality comes from? Is it Recoding internally and transferring it to the USB stick or to an external Digital interface. Please tell me David? I am using the Genos2.
It is really the love for music
Is it easy to stack the Genos 1 and Genos 2 and have two keyboards ?
That thing plays allmost alone, its cool but where is the musicion in the future?
This is so incredibly awesome. 😎 and I can hear new Brass as well love it.
Not interested till they bring the tilting screen back..no way can I do without that!! So it's still Tyros 5 for me...
Tyros 5 is still a fantastic keyboard, as a matter of fact I almost bought one last year and wouldn't have regretted it.
I might reconsider getting one in 2025 is I still want one and can get one for a reasonable price. I think we can expect
Tyros 5's to come further down in price in the next few years.
What can you say about music. it is that little one thing that Curly says in City Slickers
More styles that sounds exactly like a very particular popular song… these styles Leaves nothing to creativity… the style that can basically be used with that certain song… I don’t think it’s worth upgrading
I wonder which speakers you are using.
Hi Mick! The speakers are the GNS-MS01 speakers.
Yamaha what happened to grand piano of e473?
The addition of Bluetooth is its greatest advantage.
Great job but how about wooly bully watch it now 😮
Excellent demonstration……thanks!
They missed a trick. I don't want a keyboard but I would like a top notch organ at a reasonable price. How difficult would it yave been for Yamaha to produce a keyboard that could easily and seemlesly attach to a second keyboard. Easy, but no.
There want only make a bunch of money, thats it, sadly
Buy an YC61, i got one, top notch hammond clone and more
@@samuelcharrier8164 I want more than a Hammond Clone. The Genos could be the basis of a relatively cheap home style organ. Thats what I meant about attaching a second keyboard in a seemless way but Yamaha don't want to do it for some reason. So we have the abortion that is the TRX system.
Brilliant Video. Would like to come in sometime to play on the Genos 2 if that’s alright.
You can make the exact same sounds on the older Genos. I don’t see any difference
Infact I was using my genos and trying it with multipile youtube genos 2 videos im seeing no difference apart new styles and Fm synthesis , I will be skipping this one for sure
Is there seamless switching?
Yep.. korg kronos!
Fantástico 👋👋👋👍👍👍
Chord Looper buttons - ok - but still NO EDITING facility for the recorded progressions. And would have been nice if the 8 progression loops could have default styles attached and saved in the file.
Br Yamaha I do have Yamaha PSR series but sadly they killed the beauty without tilt screen it should be tilt mode touch screen to feel the music journey ,inthat part KORG knew about it 😠,🇨🇦
PAX5 has been made redundant
Not really. PA5X its an amazing machine
$7000? No!
Only Joking!!
i been waching many differant demonstrations and was turned off but you guys are the best not boring very intertaining thank you your the best
I want the Genos 2
Sorry, the accents from both commentators were so thick, I couldn’t understand a thing they were saying…
Hi Dave The Genos is King
My god it’s great to see Yamaha king of the cheese still at it, I suppose it’s only folk of a certain age have the king of money to spend in these.
This is the best demonstration of new Genos 2 for today.
I have audya 5 that is 13 y.o and sound like real band way far from genos 2
You either see it or you do not
in reality is Very disappointing!!
very very cheap
😮
Bonitos sonidos y todo... Pero el diseño, es FEISSSSSSIMOOOO!
Parece de juguete... Es la razón principal para descartarlo!
Prefiero KORG o incluso KETRON que por lo menos tienen la apariencia de teclados de verdad...
Too much explanation but the same shit.
😂😂 👎👎👎🤮🤮🤮
Yes, some make profit out of it. Who cares!!
👎👎👎👎👎👎😂😂😂😂
Wow utterly sensational, black white keys and a host of knobs including the two introducing it. Be still my beating heart! For Gods sake the world is teetering on global destruction and this is electronic crap supposed to enrapture us!