Another clutch job pt2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.พ. 2020
- Separating the 5303, disassembling the clutch. This video is all done off the phone. Both Camtasia and cyberlink power director editing software will not upload to TH-cam. Both say that I have no internet connection when the connection is just fine. IDK?
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Best mechanic channel on u tube! All repairs ,no shilling crap.
True. Tired of dudes selling ICON tools for Horrible Freight.
@@prevost8686 ...Or Snap On and every other piece of crap free gadget they get
We appreciate all you do for us on TH-cam.
Thank you Warren. Its so refreshing to see someone care about their work, and looking after customers.
Thanks again for letting us watch your day to day struggles. It is really appreciated!
I do many clutches on these tractors. They really do not last under hard work, constantly adjusting the PTO. I maintain a fleet of 20 series for orchard farming. I can almost do a clutch on a 5520 in my sleep!
Awesome videos keep em coming!
Thanks Warren for your You tube cannel. It is always interesting to se you work with all kind of tractor. Best channel on You Tube. Have a good day i the workshop!
Right on 👍🤝
As always Warren I enjoy watching your videos. The first clutch that is against the flywheel is the PTO clutch. Looks to me that they don’t use the PTO. The clutch you found deeper inside the pressure plate is in fact the traction clutch. I work for a John Deere dealership and have split many of these same tractors for a clutch job. Our standard practice is to replace the rear main seal regardless. I hope this helps. Thanks for all your hard work and sharing these videos. Your knowledge has helped me out as well.
I was about to make the comment but you got there first. I dont do tractors but some trucks run twin plate PTO clutchs also. One for driving, one for the PTO.
Same setup as a small Massey (35/135/240), outer clutch is for the hydraulics & PTO, inner is the one that make the wheels spin.
One of my favorite parts is when you talk to the equipment. Hold on Mr. Flywheel...I talk to myself all day long. People think I am strange when they sneak up on me and hear me cussing something. I say I am talking to the bolt...:):)
Love it. The problem is when you get an answer back. Hahah
I am glad I am not the only one
I talk to myself all the time when repairing things, and occasionally I get caught and asked, are you talking to yourself, and i say yes i am.
You think you have problems, I occasionally talk to my dead pets. That's 'cause I miss them.
@@jonka1 I hear you. Same for me . Just like family. I think that is the joy in having them
Thanks, Warren. Every time I watch, I learn something! Never miss one ---- DON'T FORGET TO LIKE!
You know there’s a guy out there in la la land saying he wouldn’t change out that rear main seal and be waiting for a future service call. That’s how an honest and preventive mechanic as yourself keeps his conscience and reputation in great standings. Sleep well my friend, appreciate all you teach!
I enjoy watching you repair stuff and listening to you talking away about what you are doing. Great camera work as well.
Great video, Warren! As always!!! Love watching you work !! You make it look so easy, and you never seem to get in a rush. Slow and study and just stay the course. Thanks for sharing....
Bring back memories of working at a John Deere dealership we worked on a lot of these 5000 tractor and smaller split a couple to do clutches we never had slitting stands and always did them with a floor jack. Keep up the good work and making great videos
LOVE YOUR STUFF. I THINK THAT SECOND DISC IS THE PTO CLUTCH
always thinking ahead ! ounce of prevention... and yet last year , you were dead slow at Christmas to April , then the roll started and been going ever since. Good year!
Audio quality was awesome on this video. Man, I have seen quite a few clutches in My day, but never one quite like that , very interesting. Always enjoy Your video's.
Reminds me of a JD 5200 we've split. Great work as usual
lol I was really looking forward to watching you split that tractor with one hand.. the show must go on! quotably quoted
Weld it in low range to save new clutch...
So many knuckle head s dig in to high a gear alot .
Small disc engages PTO before main drive grabs to move tractor.
Excellent work Thanks
One thing I am noticing is you are smart!! Smart from experience. Like putting the jack under the front to keep from tipping. You work careful to avoid getting hurt and damaging equipment. I bet when you were younger the school of hard knocks taught you a lot of this.
Warren you said it all - "Do it right the first time!" That attitude will never bite you in the butt down the road like a quick fix and not spending a few bucks to replace all the associated parts that still looked good but you know they're going to fail after just a few hours of use.
Nice job Warren!
Thanks Warren
Always good to see ya
The 5103 I did last year had kind of the same failure plus the rear main seal was leaking oil into the clutch housing
Front floor jack is a good idea. I learned the hard way.
Fun to watch👍👍👍👍👍👍
Great video. I love the country voices, they remind me of Carl in the movie Sling blade.
The first disk against a single flywheel is for the pto the disk further back is the traction clutch
The first Disc it is for the PTO the second It’s for the transmission.viny
might be like a New Holland i repaired, syncro gearbox compared to shuttle which has one clutch plate, it was a dual clutch, the inner one is the PTO clutch which was a normal fiber one, the drive plate outer one was ceramic, the ceramic clutches cannot be ridden its either in or out, the dealers replaced the clutch around 1500 hours but it was too tight so thus half engaged, it only went another 1500 hours, the owner told them it was grinding and he couldn't push the clutch pedal in as it was cable operated, it wore out the fingers as the bearing almost went through them, after machining, new fingers, bearings, bolts, ceramic clutch and the bellevue spring which is what you have the big round thing in the middle of the clutch unit, i found out the workshop manual was clearly wrong, i put the engine back in and took it back out when i realized the thrust bearings were not in the correct position on the shaft so i adjusted it as per what i suspected, put the tractor back together and the clutch worked perfectly, drove it all over the place used the FEL no problems I heard both sides of the story from the dealers mechanics and the farmer, my conclusion was the dealers mechanics just didn't know how to adjust a dual clutch and their story was complete bs, the farmers story of grinding was due to clutch being too tight from the day he bought the tractor from new.
STORY OF OUR LIVES.....HURRY UP AND GET IT TORN DOWN AND THEN WAIT ON PARTS.....
Im the other way. Get the parts, waste 4 days then decide to tear it down praying i have all the parts. 50/50 going rate.
another fun packed vid lol
I had a jd 2040 ( 1980 ) model with over 7000 hours still with the original to stage clutch
Best tractor I ever had
i did a clutch job on a john deere same clutch system and they say 1200 is usually the life of that style clutch
You make doing that stuff look so easy.....................................
I have a 5075E with 1200 hrs with no problens so far. I don't have a loader on mine. Thanks now I know what the clutch looks like.........
Great video and you do a great job showing and explaining , new to your channel
Thank you
Warren does good work enjoy the video's you will see many different types of equipment fixed on this channel.
You will enjoy watching Warren he is great at his job and he has some really good stories he is awesome
One disc is for the pto and the other for the drivetrain of the tractor, the new clutch assembly should come preassembled as a ready to go unit I believe
The disc inside the pressure plate assembly is the drive clutch and the one against the flywheel is the PTO clutch.
That camera phone certainly has earned its keep over the years hasn’t it Warren! Hahah hope you’re well mate.
Around 11:40 notice there are two different sets of clutch release fingers ( 3 per set). When the clutch pedal is pushed part way down, the first set releases the transmission clutch. When the pedal is depressed further, the PTO clutch is disengaged. I enjoyed the video, been there myself.
Interesting finding
Great video! Knowing how hard it is to get to the clutch, why would the engineers have only 4 “blades” of clutch material vs a full disc of material?
Thank you Warren
Ya I'd change it to unless I was trying to save 40 bucks for no reason but you will be thankful you did if you're luck is like mine lol love watching you work buddy wish I had you in Indiana
We never got to hear the end of that cat story. : (
agree Battery must of died lol it was a cliff hanger story!!!
Lol damn. Was hoping he'd continue it.
That’s what I came for. Did he get the part, did the customer get the part, or was it a case of repair and go?
If the inside clutch up against the flywheel is the pto clutch when the pto is not in use the pilot bearing is going and when the pto is in use the throw out bearing is going. I think its a bit of design to fail on those tractors
You saved yourself some headaches/$$$$$$$$ if that falls and breaks/damages something
That flywheel is fine on the pto side clutch...replace the back half an the second set of bolts are the adjustable drive clutch points...kabota 345dt has the same set up...rear main. Leave it...less you think the dusty clutch mess would of compromised it..ahh..ok..cheers
It nice to know I'm not the only 1 who talks to parts as I'm working on something...lol
Set up your phone camera perfect there Warren, could be a new opportunity in the film industry for you LOL
Maybe out of adjustment??? Fords double disk each disk is adjusted.
I BRAG ON JOHN DEERE'S ENGINEERS, I HAVE A MOWER FROM THEM, THE CUP HOLDER IS LIKE 18 INCHES FROM MY CUP HOLDER, GENIUS WORK THEY DO, LOL
Watching Lonesome Dover movie , when do you have time to do that, you look o busy. Great videos
I don't know whether you had Fordson Major tractors back in the early 60's. They had clutches very similar to these. One run the PTO the other is for traction..
Might want to grease the pinion gear for the starter motor while your there. My Ford 3000 got a new clutch and that was not done , nothing but problems now. When the injector pump was changed out there was another missed opportunity. To get to the starter bolt in the back the injector pump has got to come out, dang. Ford 1967 3000 diesel. If anyone has any suggestions please sing out. The starter pinion gear only engages every 8th time you try to turn it over, misses the big gear and the starter motor winds up. Could be the solenoid not kicking the pinion gear forward enough maybe but I have no idea what the hell I am doing.
Yeah better get that real seal while you're in there. Agree on that. Double clutch might be for the PTO?
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Awesome sir, do you have a video of you starting the disability? I see that this is pt2. I have not been able to find pt1
Just a thought Warren, have you tried head lamps? I work on aircrafts and at night, they work great. Thank you for sharing.
I'll second that, I am electrician and keep one tyrapped to my hard hat because you never know when you'll need a little extra light that you don't have to hold onto
The only problem with using those for YT videos is when the star rolls the camera around for the all important selfie, the screen goes white. But with Warren in charge, those constant selfies are few and far between. He doesn't start the day with "my hair" or any other "I'm a rock star" notions that pervade the ranks of far too many YT content providers. I don't have any videos and some say then I have no room to talk. Nonsense, I like what I like so I'll watch what I want to and everybody else can take a long walk on a short pier for all I care. Not that I'm antagonistic about it in any way either, suggestions posted would work out fine for this channel. Still of the opinion that the hat cam gives us the best of Warren's audio comments (some real gems there) and we can see what he sees and what he is pointing to as well. Hand held phone shows us a casting number when he's talking about exactly where to insert screws to pull a seal instead, but I already know that info - no big loss for me.
Wow, that's one wonky looking clutch setup. But I agree with your assessment though, the first clutch plate was doing all the work and the second one was just slacking around (like some kids we went to school with). That was an awful lot of clutch dust in there to be of any use, other than keeping the second disk from being useful. Sure would like to have seen you tear it all down though, curious how they assembled it.. Keep Safe Warren, thanks for the share!
As some of the viewers have said one disc is for the drive and one for the PTO. They must never use the PTO.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 Funny that I only saw you remove one shaft from that clutch (no shaft inside a shaft). OK well now I am really curious how that's meant to work...lol That's a pretty up town PTO if you ask me, gee getting a clutch plate all of it's own is kinda special...lol
What do you have for AntiVirus and or firewall on your computer? I'm betting there is something blocking the video software from "seeing" the internet.
some days i reckon my phone has a better camera than the go pro
If he burnt the clutch in 1500 hours, then yeah, rear main seal will probably go soon too.
Im glad someone knows what the hells goin on...
Single dry clutches are from the 60s, so it must be a dual clutch setup right? I bet the first one is the pto cutch, looks too weak to be the drive clutch to me.
Dang warren I've want to kick some engineers ass'es for a long long time, even back in the sixties lol
can you get 5xl t-shert made 2 for me love your videos keep up the good work.
That’s the most dust shite I have ever seen Warren, maybe send those engineers a request to put a inspection plate so it can be blown out. You won’t get a response but it might be worth a try lol. Tom UK
Hi Warren could you post pictures of the support jack you are using in the front section of the tractor I'm going to change the clutch on my JD tractor and would like to build one
Warren, I’m looking for a wiring diagram for a 6420. Deere wants $800 for 1 book and can’t guarantee that it has all of the schematics. How do you get the tech manuals for these tractors?
Hey warren, try editing the video then saving/exporting it as a .mp4 file. Then go to youtube at the top right corner there's camera looking icon with a plus symbol in it, click that then click upload video then either drag and drop the .mp4 video file or click the blue "select file" button. This just skips the middle man "the software" give it a go and you shouldn't have to pay a yearly subscription to any program that uploads the videos for you. Cheers
I will try that thank you.
I just did what you said to do on the Detroit video, so far it's uploading. Thanks for teaching this computer dummy a new trick.
@@westerntruckandtractorrepa1353 No problem warren, thanks for the entertaining/informative videos... Cheers from Australia
Am asking if you have a video for John Deere 5615 in clutch and pressure plate ?
For all wondering there are 2 disk. One is for the pto and the other is for the transmission.
Not on a john deere
@@danielmckay3458 yes on a john deere. I dont wanna brag but I've done enough 5 series clutches that yes they are dual stage.
@@RdNk2509 They have two stage clutch I thought they hydraulic put I did see the adjustment bolt for the second stage it's not on the pedal like a Massey's or what ?
Had a client that refused to let me change out a leaking front main, despite my sound reasoning they insisted it go back to work, lasted a shift. I ended up changing out the engine. Advice is given for free?
What model jd is this?
Those small cheap Mexican Deeres all have that mickey mouse dry disc transmission/pto clutch setup. Did one in a 6403 last year that was killed by round baler duty. Pricy SOB too :(
Chris Farabaugh 6403 was Mexican, this little guy is Indian
@@connorvelthuis2221 Eh, not much of a step up regardless lol
I think the 5000 series are made in Georgia, USA
Camera tripod??
One disc drives the wheels and the other disc drives the pto
Was going to go to sleep... not for another 23 minutes now.
Let's build this clutch so that only a engineer will understand it , but yet it will take 8 hours just to figure out how to get it apart , , never mind how long it will take to replace it and stick it back together , .
What impact are you using?
Milwaukee
I put in a clutch 5000 series and it only work for 50 hrs. It was a rebuild from jd... rework🤔🤔🤔
diagram of the 5303 clutch.. i.imgur.com/VyVXclF.jpg
Green is PTO, Brown is traction.
Thanks for this! Makes it easy to understand now...
The way I do shit is a bit different. I just stare at the fking thing like 3 or 4 days ... It comes apart eventually.
I'm thinking that range was made in India warren?
Not JD's finest hour.
First 5000 series I have ever worked on. Not to impressed.
5x03 is India made, but things like the 5x25 were made in Georgia. Not very happy with these things.
There goes the camera my ass hit it! Lol
There's two discs I can see it
One is pto one is transmission
one is a pto clutch
it just goes to show that all tractors are not the same
Hey Warren, Do you ever sleep?
that's a two stage clutch
ermano una preguntita
Nothins gonna work right when its packed full of shit, the front disk did all the work the secondary disk just slipped being partially engaged.
ever thought about getting a real camera w a tripod
You know why they don't fix it where all the clutch dust will come out or where it can be serviced, they wouldn't get to sell someone a new clutch plus labor of putting it in. As far as your computer problems, blame the Russians.
IT WAS BUILT ON MONDAY . … I work on a farm that bought a new 1486 in 1980 . we went to the field and the tractor made it 100 feet before the chuck went up in smoke , the dealer came and adj.it. it did not move . It was loaded on truck took to shop and new chuck put in , we brought the tractor back to the field , putting it on same equip. in made it 300 feet before the chuck went up in smoke the 2 th time .3 chuckes in 1 week .. THE FLY WHEEL HAD NEVER BEEN TURNED FROM THE FACTORY , the dealer ship did not check or replace it, IT LOOK LIKE THE PRECER PLATS HAD NOT BEEN TURNED FROM FRACTORY. IT WAS TRACE TO THE FRACTORY AND IT WAS MADE ON MONDAY..
Que tractor es ese que serie
Some bonehead. We know who you are and see what your doing.. hahhahaha
Hey Warren get your ass out of the way and stop knocking the camera off what the heck lol
"Maybe it's better i point my ass in a different direction", that's what she said. LOL
Good job sir from India
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