Great video, thanks! I'm getting one this Friday at the Vespa dealer in Vancouver, can't believe how amazing this vehicle is, hard to find any glitch on the bike. I'm probably going to ride it from March to November, I have a car as well. I'm getting the top of the line on 60 V 35 amps, might as well, NQi Gt, black with red strips. Oh, is there anywhere to store the charger IN the scooter if I'm going on a trip and maybe want to charge it somewhere else? Thanks again..
Congrats on getting the new scooter! And sorry for the delay - your comment got held up in a filter for some reason. No place to hold a charger unless you get the added storage box on the back of the scooter which is a good idea considering the lack of storage options. Have fun up there! And check out The Shameful Tiki Room!
I went to a NIU dealer a few months ago and I remember that the salesperson told me something about they knowing if the battery is not properly taken care of and that the warranty could be voided by NIU since they had ways (internet) to monitor the use.
Hello, Vespa of Portland! Love my new Niu MQI+ Sport and it's getting LOTS of attention from neighbors and co-workers here in Central Oregon! To clarify: As I won't be riding my scooter during the colder months, I plan to bring the battery inside. But what about the scooter itself? Is it OK to leave it out in the garage (sans battery) when the temps drop to below 32 F? And would you recommend a cover? Thank you!
I live in Toronto where it gets really cold in the winter. I don't have a garage or storage so I can bring the batteries inside my home to keep them at a regular temperature. How can I keep the ECU battery charged? Is there a way to plug the charger in the bike to maintain the ECU? any suggestions that you have would be appreciated. I do use the bike in the winter but I noticed that the ECU drains really fast.
Yes you can bring them inside. There’s no direct way to charge the ECU that I know of outside of plugging the charger into the bike. I don’t know whether the batteries need to be in while charging this way to affect the ECU charging. You could email technical@niu.com to ask them directly. Good luck!
Hi there. Lots of good info here about batteries, but my question is should I have a top value to charge to as well? I.e not charge them to 100% for longevity, like I'm told to not do with my car Li-ion battery? (recommended 80% to limit dendrite formation). Thanks!
20-80% is generally the ideal charge for lithium ion batteries but we have never been instructed to tell people not to take them to 100%. You should be fine and can expect about 1200 charge cycles or the rough equivalent of 5 years before the battery is at 80% of charge.
Can you comment on the cheap metal used on chinese brand? Many review say that after 2-3 years in four season countries the scooter rusts out pretty quickly. also can you comment on the sturdiness of the front lift?
Can’t comment from personal experience on the metal over time since we’ve only had NIU in out market for about 3 years now. In places with higher humidity or salt content in the air, metal is going to rust quicker. Many scooters, regardless of country origin, aren’t well painted or sealed and can see rust in these environments. Front shock seems standard for a scooter. Thanks for watching!
do you know if there are any table showing the error codes present in battery when it blinks in error? I saw my battery blinking in a patern frequency, but I cannot find anything in service manual...
Best bet is to email technical@NIU.com with your VIN and a description of what you’re seeing. They’ll be able to check out your scooter remotely. And then take it in to your local dealer/service center for repair if needed. Sometimes they just run over the air updates and it fixes an issue. Good luck!
What´s happening if the ECU battery is completly drained out if I unplug the main battery? Can I just plug in the main battery and go for a ride instantly? Or do I have to wait for the ECU to charge up for a bit?
May have to wait a bit for it to charge up. Ideally you’re plugged directly into the bike when charging if that ECU battery is dead. Passes the charge on to it instead of just the larger batteries.
Isn't the battery excess-discharge issue something the BMS should take care of? It looks like NIU is already pretty sophisticated in terms of software and so on.
Good question. The BMS does not seem to stop the battery from charging (hence why they say to remove it from the charger by 12hrs) and the draw for over the air updates will continue without the BMS stopping it to conserve battery - from what we’ve seen at least. A software update could probably fix both of this scenarios but it has yet to be seen. Thanks for watching.
Charging up to 100% once in a while is good practice to balance out cells, but not all the time. If possible, try to stay between 20-80% under normal use If you know you need the extra range, sure charge up to the brim
Yeah, dont deep discharge these batteries. My UQI pro was depleted down to 8% because i had one delivery more than expected. Aside from me having to go 20km/h on the road, it took forever to recharge to 50%. Im talkin 3hrs.
@@VespaPortland Any rough estimate of the price? My Local dealer here cannot help to get me 35ah, Mostly available locally is just 26ah Eve Cells which is really poor in quality, Even 35ah source out directly from CN. Unlike Panasonic cells on 35ah. I hope you can help.
Unseen battery isage is a bad design. There should be a light diode showing it is on in some way. It should be obvious how to turn that off. Not only written in the manual.
Don’t let the batteries go completely flat as you then can’t get them to charge. A complete pain in the arse. Had to pay £200. Get them. Restarted The bike was only 300 miles on the clock when I let it go flat. Now it’s done 600 miles and it’s gone completely flat again and the batteries won’t charge again. Absolutely rubbish By the way I bought 2. New had the same problems with both. Complete crap
That can happen. The owner either needs to ride the scooter regularly or follow the storage procedures. Same kind of thing happens with a carbureted gas powered scooter. Good luck.
It’s not like they did it to punish you. That’s the architecture of the electronics at this point. Eventually batteries just don’t come back. Same with traditional lead acid.
A very helpful & practical advice video from an experienced professional. Thanks Andrew
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
Great video, thanks
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Great video, thanks.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
great knowledge you have.going to see if they are sold in uk.fuel sky high.great second scoot.thanks
Thanks for watching and good luck!
Great video, thanks! I'm getting one this Friday at the Vespa dealer in Vancouver, can't believe how amazing this vehicle is, hard to find any glitch on the bike. I'm probably going to ride it from March to November, I have a car as well. I'm getting the top of the line on 60 V 35 amps, might as well, NQi Gt, black with red strips. Oh, is there anywhere to store the charger IN the scooter if I'm going on a trip and maybe want to charge it somewhere else? Thanks again..
Congrats on getting the new scooter! And sorry for the delay - your comment got held up in a filter for some reason. No place to hold a charger unless you get the added storage box on the back of the scooter which is a good idea considering the lack of storage options. Have fun up there! And check out The Shameful Tiki Room!
thank you
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
I went to a NIU dealer a few months ago and I remember that the salesperson told me something about they knowing if the battery is not properly taken care of and that the warranty could be voided by NIU since they had ways (internet) to monitor the use.
Yeah that scooter is quite connected so the battery treatment is definitely on display on their side. Thanks for watching!
Hello, Vespa of Portland! Love my new Niu MQI+ Sport and it's getting LOTS of attention from neighbors and co-workers here in Central Oregon! To clarify: As I won't be riding my scooter during the colder months, I plan to bring the battery inside. But what about the scooter itself? Is it OK to leave it out in the garage (sans battery) when the temps drop to below 32 F? And would you recommend a cover? Thank you!
The scooter itself should be fine in the garage. Cover optional but can’t hurt! Take care and thanks for watching/getting one from us!
I live in Toronto where it gets really cold in the winter. I don't have a garage or storage so I can bring the batteries inside my home to keep them at a regular temperature. How can I keep the ECU battery charged? Is there a way to plug the charger in the bike to maintain the ECU? any suggestions that you have would be appreciated.
I do use the bike in the winter but I noticed that the ECU drains really fast.
Yes you can bring them inside. There’s no direct way to charge the ECU that I know of outside of plugging the charger into the bike. I don’t know whether the batteries need to be in while charging this way to affect the ECU charging. You could email technical@niu.com to ask them directly.
Good luck!
Thanks for sharing all those smarts about electrons!
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Interesting video! Can you use two different capacity (say a 35ah and a 26ah) packs in the duel battery models or will this cause an error?
Haven’t tried it. The non-standardized battery charger connection may be different on those two different batteries.
Hi there. Lots of good info here about batteries, but my question is should I have a top value to charge to as well? I.e not charge them to 100% for longevity, like I'm told to not do with my car Li-ion battery? (recommended 80% to limit dendrite formation). Thanks!
20-80% is generally the ideal charge for lithium ion batteries but we have never been instructed to tell people not to take them to 100%. You should be fine and can expect about 1200 charge cycles or the rough equivalent of 5 years before the battery is at 80% of charge.
Can you comment on the cheap metal used on chinese brand? Many review say that after 2-3 years in four season countries the scooter rusts out pretty quickly.
also can you comment on the sturdiness of the front lift?
Can’t comment from personal experience on the metal over time since we’ve only had NIU in out market for about 3 years now. In places with higher humidity or salt content in the air, metal is going to rust quicker. Many scooters, regardless of country origin, aren’t well painted or sealed and can see rust in these environments.
Front shock seems standard for a scooter.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching.
do you know if there are any table showing the error codes present in battery when it blinks in error? I saw my battery blinking in a patern frequency, but I cannot find anything in service manual...
Best bet is to email technical@NIU.com with your VIN and a description of what you’re seeing. They’ll be able to check out your scooter remotely. And then take it in to your local dealer/service center for repair if needed. Sometimes they just run over the air updates and it fixes an issue. Good luck!
What´s happening if the ECU battery is completly drained out if I unplug the main battery? Can I just plug in the main battery and go for a ride instantly? Or do I have to wait for the ECU to charge up for a bit?
May have to wait a bit for it to charge up. Ideally you’re plugged directly into the bike when charging if that ECU battery is dead. Passes the charge on to it instead of just the larger batteries.
Aaron Draplin would approve that logo.
We think so too! Thanks for watching.
The GTS Pro will use about 5% battery per day when left "off"
Good info. Thank you!
What is code 33 on the Kqi2 pro?
Sorry, don’t know. We don’t carry the kick scooters.
Isn't the battery excess-discharge issue something the BMS should take care of? It looks like NIU is already pretty sophisticated in terms of software and so on.
Good question. The BMS does not seem to stop the battery from charging (hence why they say to remove it from the charger by 12hrs) and the draw for over the air updates will continue without the BMS stopping it to conserve battery - from what we’ve seen at least. A software update could probably fix both of this scenarios but it has yet to be seen. Thanks for watching.
Will having your moped custom painted void warranties?
Definitely not.
How important is keeping tabs on the maximum charge? Should I always charge from 20% to 100%?
Ideally you’re keeping your battery somewhere between 100% and 20%. Thanks for watching.
@@VespaPortland True, especially overnight be hard to not go to 100%, you're sleeping, just unplug it when you get up, fairly simple..
For optimal longevity try to keep them between 80 and 20%
Charging up to 100% once in a while is good practice to balance out cells, but not all the time. If possible, try to stay between 20-80% under normal use
If you know you need the extra range, sure charge up to the brim
can i charge the battery after using the bike? or do i have to let the battery cool down before charging? thanks
Go ahead and charge when you’re done riding. No need to wait.
@@VespaPortland thanks
That's a really nice scooter
Definitely! Thanks for watching!
Can you get heated grips for this scooter?
Not that we know of from the factory but there might be an aftermarket option. At the expense of battery life of course.
Just put heated packs in your winter gloves? Maybe?
Yeah, dont deep discharge these batteries. My UQI pro was depleted down to 8% because i had one delivery more than expected. Aside from me having to go 20km/h on the road, it took forever to recharge to 50%. Im talkin 3hrs.
Sorry you had to deal with that! Thanks for watching and writing your experience.
Hi Vespa Portland, Is it possible to buy Panasonic 35ah Battery to you and shipout to Philippines?
Too expensive to try with us. Check your local NIU dealer.
@@VespaPortland Any rough estimate of the price? My Local dealer here cannot help to get me 35ah, Mostly available locally is just 26ah Eve Cells which is really poor in quality, Even 35ah source out directly from CN. Unlike Panasonic cells on 35ah.
I hope you can help.
I think the Panasonic batteries are nearly $1500 USD and not sure which Ah that price is. Good luck!
@@VespaPortland Thank you!
I have no idea what fahrenheit is, the rest of the world use celsius.
😆 🤷♂️ Guess someone in the rest of the world will need to make a video about this too then.
The rest of the world also uses Google to convert to whatever they use.
I just use Google to deamericanise things when I need to
Nothing new but nice review
Thanks for watching.
Unseen battery isage is a bad design. There should be a light diode showing it is on in some way.
It should be obvious how to turn that off. Not only written in the manual.
Email technical@niu.com to complain
the KEYLESS ignition is a joke
Keyless to start but key required to open the seat. So you still have to carry a key. A little weird, I agree.
but why they make it so uglyyy😭 one light reallyyy😭😭🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Thanks for watching.
Don’t let the batteries go completely flat as you then can’t get them to charge. A complete pain in the arse. Had to pay £200. Get them. Restarted The bike was only 300 miles on the clock when I let it go flat. Now it’s done 600 miles and it’s gone completely flat again and the batteries won’t charge again. Absolutely rubbish
By the way I bought 2. New had the same problems with both.
Complete crap
That can happen. The owner either needs to ride the scooter regularly or follow the storage procedures. Same kind of thing happens with a carbureted gas powered scooter. Good luck.
How crap that the battery locks you out. Beyond rubbish. Don’t buy this crap. Everyone will let it die at sometime.
It’s not like they did it to punish you. That’s the architecture of the electronics at this point. Eventually batteries just don’t come back. Same with traditional lead acid.