Why Newt Scamander Was on the Marauder's Map (Easter Egg) - Harry Potter Theory
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Welcome to another installment of Harry Potter Theory. In this video, we’re going to be discussing the Prisoner of Azkaban, The Marauders and Newt Scamander. Now, we know Newt Scamander as the loveable main character of the new Fantastic Beasts films. Newt is a famed magizoologist and the AUTHOR of Fantastic Beasts and Where to find them- a book outlining the study of magical creatures.
Newt himself once described his profession as follows:
"I have visited lairs, burrows and nests across five continents, observed the curious habits of magical beasts in a hundred countries, witnessed their powers, gained their trust and, on occasion, beaten them off with my travelling kettle."
We get to know Newt quite well in the new Fantastic Beasts films, and there are many films still on the way. However, one thing that I always found interesting was that Newt Scamander appeared on the marauders map in the Prisoner of Azkaban - and this was WAY before we saw him on screen in Fantastic Beasts. So, what was Newt doing on the map? After all, Newt was expelled from Hogwarts LONG before Harry was even born- he attended the school from 1908 to 1913!
The Marauder’s Map is described as follows:
"The magic used in the map's creation is advanced and impressive; it includes the Homonculous Charm, enabling the possessor of the map to track the movements of every person in the castle, and it was also enchanted to forever repel (as insultingly as possible) the curiosity of their nemesis, Severus Snape."
With all of that in mind I want to explore a couple of popular fan theories for why it is that Newt was actually on the map. And I’ll give you my thoughts on both of them after I’ve briefly introduced them.
Theory #1 is that Newt was visiting Dumbledore. Newt and Dumbledore were very close friends later in life, and Dumbledore even once taught Newt. At the time that Newt was expelled from Hogwarts, Dumbledore was Newt’s professor, and tried vehemently to stop him from being expelled. They had quite a deep friendship, so it makes sense that Newt would go to visit an old friend. His book was even part of the Hogwarts curriculum.
Theory #2 is that Newt was on the Hogwarts grounds to help save Buckbeak. One of the key events of the Prisoner of Azkaban was the execution of Buckbeak the hippogriff. It’s completely reasonable to expect that Newt would take a special interest in Buckbeak. Newt is a lover of all animals, and Buckbeak's unfair sentence to death would draw his attention. Additionally, Newt’s mother was a breeder of Hippogriff’s, so it would make perfect sense that he would be interested in this situation. Newt devoted his life to magical creatures, so it only makes sense that he would show up to try and stop the execution if possible.
My own third theory was that Newt was at Hogwarts to visit his grandson, Rolf Scamander. Rolf was just a year younger than Harry, and attended Hogwarts at the same time as the trio. In adulthood, Rolf would actually go on to MARRY Luna Lovegood.
But, the main problem with all of these theories is that they assume that Newt was still alive. Some sources state that Newt only lived until the year 1991 or 1992. And hough he lived a Hearty and full life- this would mean that he was already dead by the time that Harry got his hands on the marauders map.
IF Newt was in fact dead, then my only explanation for him showing up on the map was that he turned in to a ghost. In the films, there are several instances in which ghosts show up on the MAP, so it would make perfect sense. Those who decide to return to the mortal world as a ghost, do so because they have ‘unfinished business’- this prevents them from moving on to the next dimension. In newt’s case, if he became a ghost upon death, I would expect that it was because he had unfinished business of some sort- perhaps still searching for more creatures, or in the middle of researching a particular creature. He was so devoted to his work, that I can really see him lingering around to see it through.
If that isn’t the case, then it must have really just been a little easter egg that gave us a sense of what was to come in the Fantastic Beasts films.
And that’s it for this video What are your theories for WHY Newt Scamander showed up on the Marauders map in the prisoner of azkaban? Let us know down in the comment section below.
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I love this theory
But I am pretty sure I am still alive
But you were close
Why was Newt expelled? @HarryPotterTheory
I feel since wizards have longer lifespans 'dumbledore' some more than others. I can see newt living during Harry's time, a perfect example is in deathly hallows when harry talks to dumbledore's old friend. even Grindelwald, stuck in his own prison was still alive until Voldemort visited him about the elder wand and these people are far older then newt. plus his knowledge of magical creatures might have yielded something to prolong himself in the short term.
I believe he's canonically alive to see Luna Scamander's children
White Fang oh yess
I agree with you
I saw this thing on google when I searched up if newt was dead or not and it said that he was 97 would’ve actually lived in the same time period as Harry
Thenicly wizards live max 200 years...if he atended school from 1908 this means he was 11 then and he was born in 1897 wich makes him at the time of Harry still able to be alive
Can we just take a moment to appreciate this man's video quality
No
Maybe
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@@damianshaw764 Good thing you didn't make the mistake of editing the comment lmaoo
He probably came to:
A. Help Hagrid with his new CoMC job
B. Talk to Dumbledore about Buckbeak attack
C. Research Dementors
yes
@Paola Ramirez Newt is a legend :D
E. He is the brave in the world
How bout' all of them?
I would even say all of this plus a cup of milk
Another reason why Newt could have been is visiting the Chamber of Secrets studying the dead basilisk. Maybe he was there more than once. I think Dumbledore would have allowed him to do that, as studying a living basilisk in the wild would be next to impossible given how super dangerous the creature is. Even for someone like Newt. Although maybe Newt might even know some tricks to handle a basilisk.
Newt couldn't have opened the chamber though, or spoken parseltongue, and wouldn't have wanted to kill it.
@@fisty539 Someone would have had to close the chamber after The events of the second book. Most likely this would’ve been Dumbledore, it would be safe to guess at that point Dumbledore would have the capability to open the chamber at that point. He could’ve opened it so Newt could go down to the basilisk.
No one said Newt would want to or did kill the basilisk. Zeno clearly said he was studying the one that was already dead (killed by Harry).
So I’m not sure what point you were trying to make because your response is that of someone who didn’t even read what they were replying to.
@@Matt-mj1xh Yeah they would've had to close the chamber like in the past. I assume that Dumbledore/and/or a group of aurors probably just sealed it like after Tom Riddle opened it. Dumbledore was the transfiguration prof at that time so it seems unlikely to be him, especially when you consider the fact that the chamber was left open for any parselmouth to open.
I don't know why you think he would be able to get past safeguards to open/change the chamber Salazar Slytherin had kept going for thousands of years. If Dumbledore could open it, why did he not go investigate and/or kill the basilisk when Myrtle died?
Here's one option; The only way of getting ancient magic passed from one to another without crossing the interdict of merlin is by concealing a bunch of ancient magic info inside a being that can talk to you. Dumbledore may have known this would be Harry. I'm not sure.
I am also unsure of the point you are making, Dumbledore could not open the chamber as he was not a parselmouth, I was considering all possible angles and pointing out some well known facts, he could not open it (none could except a parselmouth) and he wouldn't want to kill it (I 'was talking about before Harry killed it).
If Dumbledore could open the chamber (likely not), could have persuaded Newt to figure some stuff out about it, left it to possibly kill/manipulate his students then....that changes my perspective of him being a careful adult figure.
tldr;
1: Dumbledore can't open the chamber but aurors and/or him can seal it, never open.
Ancient magic can be passed down without invoking the interdict of merlin, DD might have thought of that while allowing the thousand year old giant snake to live where children do.
2: Your response is not of someone replying to someone who kinda knows what their talking about, recognises it and poses ideas for a debate/conversation.
3: Your logic is downright flawed, but you don't want to know that. You have no ideas of your own to contribute that can't be refuted by a single sentence. No original thinking. You offer no ideas/concepts that cant be passed by in less then 10 milliseconds of actual thought.
@@fisty539 For starters Dumbledore did not know where the entrance was if he did the second book wouldn’t have happened. The first time the chamber opened they did not catch the person who opened it. Tom would’ve resealed hence why it was still accessible when Harry is in school.
Knowing where the entrance is and being able to get all the way to the chamber likely would give Dumbledore the knowledge he needs to alter any magic previously done on the chamber. A big thing your don’t seem to understand is previously there were people who knew where the entrance was. So to answer your question he didn’t investigate when Myrtle died because he didn’t know where to investigate.
After the second book if (and it is a big if ,but honestly who else would do it) Dumbledore sealed the chamber I’m sure he could undo whatever he did to seal it. I don’t think it’s far fetched to think Dumbledore could alter the magic of the chamber once it was finally found. He was able to undo some of the security charms on Hogwarts grounds in the 6th book when him and Harry fly back to the astronomy tower.
I find it funny you consider yourself someone who knows what they are talking about when most of you reply ignores the fact that no one knew where the chamber was until the second book. But maybe next time instead of trying to flex your big Brian and act superior and all knowing you’ll try to take more than 10 milliseconds to comprehend what you are reading (doubtful).
I think this is where it ends. You’re insufferable and I have no desire to continue any form of conversation with you. Hopefully you take this as a lesson to humble yourself and conduct yourself better but I doubt it you’ll probably do the same thing again when you inevitably reply.
@@Matt-mj1xh @matt Agreed this is probably where it ends. But how do you know Dumbledore did not know where the chamber was? He couldn't get in anyway and a literal 5 min chat with myrtle revealed it to 3x 2nd years.He likely knew it was Tom due to crazy amount of work he did into the relations memories and his past. Also a great way of confirming that Harry is a parseltounge, seeing Harry through the cloak at Hagrid's then telling him how to defeat the basilisk. Maybe that was a coincidence or maybe it was dumbledore steering Harry through his fate, the phoenix can teleport even in and out of azkaban, why not take dumbledore along with if not to continually test harry.
You have an interesting counter-theory though but it might also make less sense. It's a shame to shutdown the debate due to emotions, as I meant you no real harm. I will still take this as a lesson from another person though and I may have been well out of order, so yeah sorry about that. I guess I'm just trying to figure out the whole picture and why people think what they think/believe what they believe. Your theory holds water as they probably couldn't get basilisk fangs without the chamber being behind the new wards, although no-one tried to get in inbetween so there's no real data there (still makes it more probable).
I didn't really say what I was saying was gospel, just some questions where I saw no answers. I'll make it a point to be slightly kinder in my approach. Goodbye and good day/night etc
JK Rowling confirmed he was still alive “currently”
Phew, thanku.
Gigi Joshy yes, tho if he was still alive today he would be 123 years old
@@dakotatube2272 I think most Wizards live to their 120s. It would make them almost 2x older than the average human who live into their 70s.
That's what I thought. He and Tina live comfortably in retirement with a few beloved pets. What happened to the huge menagerie, I don't know. But keep in mind that wizards live a lot longer than Muggles, the exception being people like Nicholas Flamel. Besides, the most recent edition of Newt's classic book on Fantastic Beasts has a wonderful new Introduction where he reveals that our charming friend, Rita Skeeter (obviously younger than Newt at the time of writing) wrote one of her many nasty tabloid books on how Newt "ways a 'love rat' who broke Seraphina Piquery's heart" in 1926 before fleeing back to London. It doesn't say when she published it, but New t wasn't very pleased about it. As he wrote it in our own time, though, because Newt himself was asked not to reveal the things that happened over the following years, as this information is still classified. A clever way not to give away the plotlines of the next three movies until after they've been made. So Newt isn't a ghost and he and Tina are still alive. We don't know how many children they had, but we do know they had a grandson who married Luna Lovegood, and they had two children of their own. The Scamanders, by the way, are purebloods, like the Weasleys - until, of course, Ron married Hermione.
DakotaTube 2 Dumbledore died at around the age of 115 and he’s older than newt who would be around 97
Newt could still be alive because his Chocolate Frog in the video games says 1897 - Present.
Was going to say that until I saw this comment! Nice to see another person who played the games on this video!
Also he "wrote" the preface in the 2017 edition of his Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them book. He was still alive in 2017.
@@GabbyIsFine 100 years. I suppose Wizards do shake off most muggle illnesses rather easily.
@@autobotskyflame6287 120* and it is a decent age considering Dumbledore was about 15-25 years older than him and still alive by the time the twins gave Harry the map.
Well he is... Just very old.. living somewhere...
Bruh imagine attending a school where your grandfather watches you like an actual ghost....
Wot
What? Whose grandfather?
@@chandrayeedey7462 Rolf's.
😮..yo maybe that's why Luna dated his grandson. She would think that would be cool.
that would be scary
Clear he is younger than Dumbledore so could be alive still.
True but Dumbledore is also a few hundred years old
DJ A.M. he only lived to 150 i believe
Zach Boebel nope, he was 116
@@heavengld in one of the films ron says about him being 150 but does the books say that?
@@heavengld according to JK rowling he was 150
Director: "Let's put newt on the map for a fun little easter egg"
Everyone else: "WHY IS NEWT ON THE MAP WHAT DOES IT MEAN?"
Ikr
hagrid has been able to get his hands on several odd creatures, maybe he found some creature being trafficked took it from his capturers, and called on newt to get it back home or looked after.
The Strokes album cover. Nice👌.
Bruh he was like hanging around there for no reason i guess
@@GavbinTitle best debut album in history!
Or, like Barty Crouch, Newt had a child--or a relative named someone after him. Same name, same on map, but different people.
Wonder if Theseus Scamander had a grandson named Newt?
Luna did marry newt scammander jr
@@uncleiroh6979 no, she married Rolf Scammander, Newt and Tina's grandson, and Newt is confirmed to have lived at least until 2015, and he met harry at the wedding
@@angelemanuelgomez4326 which wedding? What did i miss 🤔
@@pankhuribhatnagar2360 Luna Lovegood's wedding
Pottermore says that the average age for a wizard is 137.75 years by the mid 90s. Even Dumbledore technically died young. I’d doubt that Newt had died by then. I really like the theory that he was there to try and save Buckbeak. It fits his character just too damn well.
dumbledore was killed by snape
@@itsmunkeyboi Hagrid killed him
@@Beetless :D
@kurozke no Dumbledore was 115 years old when Snape killed him. I searched it in google
It just dumbledore having a long long beard give us the impression that he’s old
I think that if he became a ghost, his mission would be to prevent Buckbeak from being killed.
Wait then that means he literally didn't do shit, lol.
Unless...
@@althealligator1467 Imagine a film with all three time periods ?
Original time
Harry+harmonie
Newt helping
All interchanging
Actually he was still alive... J. K confirm this.
But he doesn’t need to worry, since Harry and Hermione did it.
Or may be he was after the Basilisk in chamber of secrets...
Who is the author of Fantastic beasts and where to find them?
a) J. K. Rowling
b) Newt scamander
B
That's tough
A. in real life
That is a very difficult question
@kawaN ! man your weird
Another Easter egg: when making the unbreakable vow with narcissa Malfoy,snape says that he has deceived one of the greatest wizards of all time. While narcissa and bellatrix though he was talking about dumbledore, he was truly talking about Voldemort
T
But that's not really an Easter egg? And Dumbledore is the greatest wizard of all time anyway?
thats not an easter egg, its an inference everyone made themselves
Actually in the special edition audio book Quidditch Through The Ages, Rita Skeeta mentions that Newt attended Rolf and Luna’s wedding.
I mean he is Rolf’s grandfather so yeah
@@kurikoxsaiki9250 means he is not a ghost during the prisoner of Azkaban
I just opened TH-cam thinking about why did Newt Scamander not fight in the battle of Hogwarts since we did see him on the Marauders' map and the video on my home page was this lol
Legilimency
@@HarryPotterTheory Haha! Btw, Newt is my favourite character from the Fantastic Beasts, so well played by Eddie Redmayne.
there are possible reasons beyond this for him not taking part in this battle, asuming he is alife: 1. he is a pacifist and old (and seems to be rather reluctantly draged into the plots around grindelwald)
2. Dumbledore might have entrusted him to get some sort of magical creatures away from following voldemort and he simply could not leave for hogwarts in time
3. Age and not exactly beeing an auror may have made him feel he would be more in the way than of any help and also most of the parents of the students dont fight, if I am not mistaken...
You can always just assume that he *was* there, but Harry never ran into him. Iirc, Slughorn came back with 'parents and relatives' of the children. Newt had a grandson there and (presumably) fighting.
@@MasterTMO true...because why should je be mentioned in the battle if at this point all we new about him was that he was the autor of fantastic beasts...that would also be possible
If he really was at Hogwarts as a ghost, I'd be astounded if he didn't bump into Harry at least once. If Harry bumped into other house ghosts and even Peeves, I'm sure Newt would have taken interest in meeting the boy who lived at least once. Not to mention, he would have been around Hagrid a heck of a lot! I'm certain he and Hagrid were great buddies (both expelled, both in love with creatures) and it would be a miracle if Hagrid didn't at least once introduce the trio to Newt.
I think if newt were in harry potter and met trio or luna, it would be great chapter
Maybe he has but it just was never talked about or shown
Absolutely
A bunch of ghosts met Harry because he was a celebrity to the point where Harry lost interest in all the Hogwarts ghost. Also Harry is a kid...he can't remember everybody.
Correct deduction! He's not in the series at all and we hope JK doesn't bring up some bogus connection to bring his story.
And as per fantastic beast series, if he was so loved by Dumbledore why hasn't he been mentioned even once by Dumbledore to Harry? No references by people, no excerpts just few adhoc tit bits about him about his love for creatures and fantastic beasts. It's surely not a good idea for JK to bring up elements from past and connect to Present when you've already done PhD in a series and fans have devoured its soul itself.
Yes.. If she only wrote at final point in Deathly hallows book that Harry placed the Elder wand not in Dumbledore's grave but Newt's. Well that would've made fans yearn to know about him more than we know. But it was not. He's a fragment being dragged into HP universe by... Missus JK Rowling, the Seer
I support the idea that newt was still alive and he was either visiting Dumbledore or trying to save Buckbeak or see his grandkid
They could be great friends, Hagrid and Newt. They both love creatures.
I really appreciate you having closed captions on this video, I'm hard of hearing and it helps me understand you better :)
I really like the idea that he was trying to save the hippogriff
Also keep in mind that Newt was not an only child. He had an older brother, whose life we know little of after the Global Wizarding War. The Newt Scamander we see on the map may be Theseus Scamander's grandson.
Was going to say this. There's no reason why it has to be THE Newt Scamander.
If he was a ghost, I can only imagine what he’s would’ve doing on the sidelines throughout the series.
-Flipping his crap as Ginny killed the roosters while possessed
-Secretly helping Harry and Hermione lead Buckbeak to safety
-Absolutely adoring Norbert
-Chilling in Dumbledors office
-Watching as The Marauders go on their adventures as animagi
Here’s another theory, newt is indeed alive and visits dumbledore frequently like he does in the fantastic beast films. In the fantastic beast films newt mentions having a great granddaughter called Luna lovegood. But in the movie prisoner of Azkaban hermione has a time turner, what’s to say newt doesn’t have one too???
He probably lived to be very old like dumbledore
I don't care what JK Rowling's opinions in life are. Harry Potter world is a masterpiece, ALWAYS.
@@WaddIes Well she doesn't drug and rape people so your comment is irrelevant.
@@WaddIes Also, Bill Cosby was an actor. Unlike Rowling, I don't think he created any fictional worlds or any other works of art (someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).
@@elephant35e Marion Zimmer Bradley then. Mists of Avalon series, Darkover series, Colin MacLaren series, etc.
@@scottie55 ideologies are more insidious so NOT irrelevant.
Good example is a victimizer is bad but the victim blamer is ten times worse.
Oh, goodness...all authors have personals opinions and peculiarities. I don't intend to worry about all that.
I'm not certain of the timing of when his name showed up in the films, but perhaps he was there to consult about Lupin's potion, or to learn the recipe for it. I can see that would be something he'd be interested in.
That would make so much sense because its in POA, the year lupin was there! tho tbh, he might have already known quite a lot about the potion cause it was probably already well known enough and i am also not sure how interested newt would have been in the recipe - maybe more the effects on werewolf lupin... Newt never really struck me as someone much interested in the theory side (the actual potion) more the practical side (how it works for lupin) so i guess i just agreed with you, contradicted you and then contradicted my contradiction
But the book already explains everything about the wolfsbane potion. I highly doubt the mention of Newt would escape the book given how heavily Snape and Lupin are mentioned surrounding them making the wolfsbane potion together. Having Newt there at points but never bringing him up wouldn't make much sense considering how interesting he would be if put in the story, even if only for a small portion.
I can’t wait for Fantastic beasts 3 I am curious what will be Like
It only goes up to 1945 so
Possibly as boring as the previous ones.
@@vladmarcu3536 don't think it was boring to everyone. personally I like those previous ones
@@ostrakrewetka7604 Well, the first one was pretty interesting and refreshing in some way, but damn the second one was the most boring movie i have ever watched.
@@vladmarcu3536 I don't agree but I understand why people can feel like that about this movie :D
I think that newt was the one who suggested Dumbledore to tell Harry and Hermione to go back in time to save buck beak and Sirius.
It makes sense as he himself doesn't appear.
I believe that he probably told him about a time turner's use, but as Sirius is not caught yet, and he nor dumbledore would know he was innocent yet, then he probably just suggested it to save buckbeak (would make more sense) but dumbledore seems to have an idea of sudden inspiraiton when he says maybe more than one life can be saved.
In Harry Potter and the sorcerers stone book, Fantastic Beasts and Where To Find Them is on Harry Potter’s 1st year book list
And?
He got it for school.... not sure what you’re asking
honestly thats why im here i tried to see if it got mentioned in the movies
Video suggestion: What if Dumbledore gave Tom job in Hogwarts, as a DADA Professor??
@Konu not necessarily, he only wanted the job to look for the cup, the sword and the diadem to turn them into horcroxes. Even if he wouldve gotten the job, he would still end up doing the same
@@Espeque But then he wouldn't have put the curse on the DADA job
@@twentyeight602 good point, but after he succeeds in turning all those objects in horcroxes, he could still do that.
He also would most likely use his position to recruit students to his side, I think that was something Dumbledore feared (not knowing at the time he would become voldemort, but knowing that Tom had a strong viewpoint about power and pureblood wizards and would try to bring in followers ; kind of how Dumbledore and Grindelwald attempted to retrieve all three deathly hallows, and later, Grindelwald obtaining followers into believing only pureblood wizards should have power and should not be shunned and hidden away from muggles. I think Dumbledore saw something like this in Tom; and out of fear of what Grindelwald had become, he refused the position to Tom. But who knows? 😂
@@Espeque Yeah that's true
Either way, what a fun Easter egg! Especially when you described all the ways he would be connected to the original series at the moment in time.
i like the theory that he was there to talk to Dumbledore to try to save Buckbeak. would be very fitting that he would be on call to the school to assist with anything relating to care of magical creatures, Hagrid no doubt would know his book inside and out and may have asked Dumbledore to ask for his help.
I think I read somewhere he's still alive, he probably just secretly had meetings with Dumbledore from time to time about his work
So my theory is:
Newt didn't stay at Hogwarts, otherwise there had to be a very high probability of atleast a glimpse of him being mentioned in the books.
He didn't fought in the war since he liked peace ,he was a Hufflepuff right? And maybe he was caring rather than killing
Might be he came to Hogwarts in the third year for some work related to the post of the teacher of COMC ,which was a bit "unstable "at that time.
And I also think , he was the one who gave Dumbledore the idea of how to save Buckbeak.
Saying that, and remembering ,had pittsgrew been caught that night, Sirius would have been alive.
2 minutes of silence for him🙏😭
Believe me, that last part makes the prisoner of azkaban the most depressing.. because it lead to the future tangle of events
I wonder if Newt was also a friend of Hagrid's or if he was a person who examined O.W.L. and N.E.W.T. students?
Harry Potter Theory and Super Calin Bros, im so happy these two channels are keeping the Harry Potter universe alive and putting a new perspective on every little detail. I love it 🤗
The marauders map is still one of my favorite details in the harry potter world. Lucas builds stuff actually made a real life one. I wish i was a wizard honestly.
A ghost is only answer I would think of. Luna married his grandson right? Has to be something to that.
Luke Pilsbury That man, Nikolas Flamel, was in possession of the philosopher stone tho granting him unlimited “life”...
Luna didn't marry Neville?
Octo Pi no, she married rolf scamander. they had two sons, lorcan and lysander. neville married hannah abbott
@@aurora-yb6to Oh I never knew that...How do we know?
@@DanielR-lk1vg Rowling said that? Besides, there was no romance between them in the book.
In the book The fantastic beast and where to find them (edition made during Harrys' studies) there is Newt is still living in Dorset with his wife Porpetina.
Yay!! He and Tina got married!! I like Tina...wonder what she did during the 1st Wizarding War and the 2nd Wizarding War.
@@RenaldyCalixte Maybe the Wizengamot but maybe had retired by the second war to spend time with grandchildren, or not, who knows.
wait he doesnt marry Tina from the fantastic beasts movies!!!???
oh wait nevermind
Tina is short for Porpentina right?
I always believe that Newt learned to become an animagus and was actually Fawkes. The bond between Dumbledore and Newt was clearly there, and would make sense as to why he’s in the castle, it’s possible he retook human form often but was only seen by chance on the map.
Fawkes was actually shown as a baby in the second fantastic beasts at the end
Never clicked so fast
Lol same
Congratulations on the heart!
@@weecountygamer0956 Thanks
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One thing that always bothered me was from the POA when Ron and Hermione were talking about going to the shrieking shack and he was scared because they said it was "haunted" but they see ghost all the time and aren't bothered. Why are those ghost different?
Newt is still alive and every now and then he visits Hogwarts. This is canon. He is still alive at the time Harry's children go to Hogwart. Even, he is still alive at this time, currently in the story.
This is actually one of your best theories, in my opinion. It talks about something that no other person has talked about and everything about it makes perfect sense.
Following Occam's Razor, it makes the most sense that he was visiting Hogwarts either on a personal visit to Dumbledore, on a visit for Buckbeak, or a combination of both.
What about he's just having tea with Dumbledore
With a little milk. Hide the tea spoons.
According to the Ministry of Divine Health, wizard life expectancy in Britain was reported to be about 137¾ years in the mid-1990s. In Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone, it was revealed that one of the oldest wizards to date was around 755 years old, but we also know that Nicolas Flamel was a close follow-up.
You're forgetting that Newt had an older brother. The Newt we see could have been a Nephew, or more likely, a great nephew. I could see his brother's son naming his child after Newt as a remembrance. If he was a first year in anothee house, we'd never see him.
Maybe Rowling gave a note about the map "Newt visits the castle at one point but the trio are too preoccupied to really run into him". She has talked before of cases upon cases of pages of information and goings on that never found their way into the books.
I agree
I had a suggestion for a theory or maybe more a question. I knew Fred and George found the map from Filtch, but I wanna know how they learnt how to use it. How did they figure it out.
When Fred and George handed the map to Harry they explain why they grabbed the parchment. I have the thought that the communication charms used as gatekeepers of it helpped them realize what they found and how to unlock it's charms. For instance, they insulted Snape... I'm thinking that they had a different conversation with the map, in which the 4 recognized their mischievous atetude.
@@DanielMartinez-uv6hy but how did they know to say 'I solemnly swear I am up to no good' - it's not likely to be something you say by accident, is it?
@@rcaldwell7255 In the books it is said that the marauders gave the map to Filch for safe keeping or something. I think they left some instructions with it and when Fred and George stole the map from filch's office in their first year they could have taken the instructions too.
@@redpanda6155 in the book it is said by lupin that filch seized the map not that they given it for safe keeping. To filch OMG.
@@shivamparashar6334 Sorry my bad it has been a long time since i read the books. All I remembered was that after the marauders left school Filch had it.
Lool I didn't even know about this easter egg, how cool
Can we just look at the fact that this happened only in the movies so it is probably not canon as there is no mention of newt showing up on the map in the books.
In the books we see only the things that are relevant to the characters. There's no reason that he might not show up on the map and not be noticed by the main characters.
@@Drecon84 Depends if you believe in fact or theory. He COULD have should up but most probably he didnt.
There are tons of things that happens in the movie but not in book and anyway it's a good Easter egg maybe we would get to know more about it in 3rd movie
@@EarlofChucklechester But there are more things that happened in the books nand not in the movies.
@@namansharma332 agree to disagree we can enjoy both
Dumbledore likely called Newt under the pretense of helping Buckbeak, however as a ghost he could remain unseen to spy on Harry, Padfoot, Wormtail, or Moony. Being a magical zoologist he likely knew the difference between animagist and an actual animal.
"In 2017, Scamander denied the rumours that he was sent to New York by his former teacher Professor Dumbledore to spy on the government there and find out any new information about Grindelwald's whereabouts. Scamander said he thought it was absurd he would pose as a magizoologist to achieve that, but admitted it was a bad idea to take a suitcase of creatures to New York."
From his wiki page, so I think he was likely alive during the time of Harry Potter
2:46 anyone else lean in closer expecting to see a previously unnoticed Newt hiding in the background??
How did dumbledore know to distract Fudge and the executioner in PoA when Harry and Hermione were taking buckbeak? At that point he wasn’t planning on sending them back in time because he still thought Sirius was guilty...
That is a movie thing. Dumbledore doesn't really distract anyone in the books. The executioners take a look at Buckbeak, then go into Hagrids hut to chat, and the Harry and Hermione grab Buckbeak then. Then when Fudge and the executioners come out to see Buckbeak gone, Dumbledore makes light of the situation and says he must have gotten lose and flew away and then offers every and the rest tea or something up at the castle.
Nick Baynes it’s definitely strongly implied in the books that dumbledore is intentionally stalling the executioners
Lighinz isn’t it implied at some point that Dumbledore knows how to detect invisibility cloaks?
If you consider that the "fantastic beasts and where to find them" book to be canon (I'm talking about the textbook that is included in the Hogwarts library set, not the movie screenplay), then he was definitely still alive in 1993, because he signed the foreword of the book and mentions that he was aware his book was released for Muggles to read, but only as "pure fiction and all good fun" in 2001. So I believe one of the 1st two explanations to be more plausible.
Also, I don't believe Newt would have stayed on as a ghost. As Sir Nicholas de Mimsy Porpington explains, in the Potterverse, ghosts are wizards who decided not to go on to the other side, they're not just prevented to do so because they have unfinished business. If it were the case, Sirius would have come back as a ghost, because protecting his godson from impending death certainly qualifies as unfinished business. I believe that Newt, having such a connection with beasts and the natural world, would have accepted death as the next step of his existence and simply moved on.
My own hypothesis is that Dumbledore informed him that Harry had killed a basilisk that was hiding in the school for centuries, and Newt decided to show up and check it out for himself, eager to understand how he could have missed a giant snake living in the school he attended for several years, and probably try to help with Bucky in the process. It wouldn't be out of character for him, nor for Dumbledore who is very protective of Hagrid
Slight issue with the idea of Sirius choosing not to go on: his death was caused by Bellatrix's curse (killing curse in the film, unknown in the books) pushing him into the Veil. With what little is known of the Veil, it likely wouldn't have given him a choice to stay around as a ghost.
Imagine newt was one of the wizards that took norbert with Charlie from hagrid.
that might be
Well Dumblodore died at the age of 116, considering that Newt was a student when Dumblodore was a teacher of defence against the dark arts at that time, i suspect that Newt when he appeared on the map was between his 70s-90s.
1 more reason is that we never seen Buck after the 3rd movie so the only logical explanation is that Buck end up in Newt's lugguage.
Based on the 2nd Fantastic beasts movie where Newt meets Nicholas Flamel, it is possible they formed a friendship and a certain business agreement... whereby Newt would humanely retrieve beast related alchemical ingredients for Flamel in exchange for the occasional draught of elixir from the philosophers stone...
Regarding his expulsion, I think rescinding that decision would've been one of the first acts of Dumbledore as head master.
Not even solely because he was his teacher and friend, but because they really wouldn't want another school poaching Newt's genius.
Theory: there would have been a hearing to decide Buckbeak's fate - I think Dumbledore or Hagrid mentioned once. Newt might have been employed by either Dumbledore or the Ministry as Buckbeak's defence which would also provide him with an excellent opportunity to catch up in Hogwarts with his old mate Dumbledore and possibl his own grandson.
TLDR: por ques no los dos?
Best theory!
isn't it weird how all of the books, films, theory videos, theme parks, video games etc that bring us so much happiness were all made possible because of ONE person. I still wonder how JK came up with everything and how different our lives would be without it.
anyway great video as always :)
Hi, as I reckon, after the prophecy Dumledore had assigned Newt to keep an eye on Neville Longbottom. Since, newt is an animagus, he stayed with longbottem in the form of his frog.
i am 100% sure that Newt saved Buckbeak, and also helped Harry as a request by dumbledore during the tri wizard tournaments about the Dragons. Newt was deffinately helping out during all these times, and i am pretty sure that Newt was the one who asked Hagrid to take care of the young dragon before in the 2nd movie as well! hell, he probably helped Hagrid with the huge spider as well. wouldnt surprise me in the least tbh.
There is also a theory which says that Newt is an Animagus who could transform into a toad and in the HP series, he was actually Trevor(Neville's toad). Dumbledore hired him to keep a watch on Neville as he knew that Voldemort would return and Neville(being the other candidate of the prophecy) would be on Voldemort's hit list
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Here's my opinion.
It is most likely it was just there as a Easter Egg hinting towards the Fantastic Beasts franchise, but if it was their for a real reason and he was still alive, I think it would be for the Triwizard cup.
As Newt made significant changes to the Department of the Regulation and Control on Magical Creatures, and he was on the map within days before 1994, he could have been there to help with the importing of dragons and sphinx. He wrote the most comprehensible book on them, and would be able to help with them, he could easily have been there for that too. The Triwizard tournament takes a lot of preparation.
However, I find it unlikely he was on the map as a ghost. If he had died (not taking into account wizarding lifespans), he would have gone on. He was so close to Dumbledore that he too, would have chosen to go to the next journey. He wouldn't be scared of death either, unlike Nearly Headless Nick and going on would be the "next great adventure".
He also wouldn't have wanted to come back as a ghost to help Harry fight Voldemort because that would as be fighting another person's battle and after Grindelwald, he would have gone to a "quiet life". He'd definitely want to help if it did come to war, living or ghost, but he wouldn't have become a ghost just to help Harry fight. I doubt he would come back to research a creature, because I think Newt would have been satisfied with his life work and would want just a simple, non-fighting life with Tina and his friends Jacob and Tina after the Global Wizarding World.
If we dont see the death of Newt in The secrets of Dumbledore than my theory is that he has become an animagus. how else better to study the magical creatures? becoming one and living beside them/as one. knowimg now that him and dumbledore were friends. he wouldnt be banned from Hogwarts.
I remember that I read somewhere that Newt came to Hogwarts, around Harry's 2nd or 3rd year, to discuss with Dumbledore the printing of a new edition of Fantastic Beast and Where to Find Them. . .
Because he heard that an innocent Hippogrift is about to be executed so he charged into Dumbledore's office to try and safe the poor beast.
Edit: Oh boy I was kinda right
I did not notice much detail on the map when I watched the movie, but your screen capture at 1:45 clearly shows it, so I accept it. Since the animated scroll bearing his name appears larger than other such labels on the map for people, I wonder if perhaps this is actually a landmark label pointing out a statue or portrait of Newt that is on display in the school. To be sure, I tend to like the "he was alive and visiting" theory better, as I find it more believable. But if Scamander is indeed deceased by the time this movie takes place, this feels like a possibly plausible alternative that I have not seen elsewhere in the comments yet.
In the 2017 edition of his book, he made some editions to said book about the rumor that Dumbledore told him to be a spy. In fact, in this edition, he adds what he's doing in his later life: at age 116, him and Tina were living in Dorset.
Can we just appreciate how Dead Inside this man sounds?
Newt is Fawks think about it it would be the perfect thing for him to become a magical creature himself.
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Fawkes made a cameo in crimes of Grindelwald
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In the actual book "fantastic beasts and where to find them" it says that he is still alive, living his years after retirement fully and with his wife Tina...
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The potential of the Harry Potter universe is endless. I would love to see a story developed that involves other countries, like Romania, Bulgaria, the Balkans in general, since the author involved those places on numerous occasions, meaning that area of the world, in that universe, is a melting pot for the magical society.
No one needs to see anything from Romania or Bulgaria.. who wants to see a gypsy Harry Potter lol
i think he was alive and was the care of magical creatures teacher when Hagrid was gone
New Headcannon confirmed - Newt was Prof. Grubblyplank and pretended to be a little bit off and mean so the students didnt like him too much which allowed Hagrid to return as everyones favourite 😂
Also pretended to be a woman but to each thine own
What if Newt is still alive, but living in his magical briefcase and the case could be hidden in the castle? And leaving soon after Prisoner of Azkaban, as that when things start to get to dangerous for him and his creatures at the school.
newt is still alive asper j.k rowling
Given that Hagrid became Care of Magical Creatures teacher that year, and given the trouble with Buckbeak, it's possible that Newt was sent by the Ministry to "assess" Hagrid's competency, possibly on Dumbledore's suggestion.
I like this idea
How did you manage to notice that ? Newt scamander came out in 2016 nd the map was introduced way before that you must have an amazing vision or be the biggest wizarding world fan ever well done
Can’t see the video, but i am excited for it
Exited.. So you left? 😉
Wait no that's not right. YOU specifically are exited, but that means.. someone left you! 😮
Lmao that’s a big mood, I can relate 😂
Did you enjoy eating the c? Isn't that too salty?
It is likely that he is on the map because he was meeting a teacher or Dumbledore at Hogwarts at that time. Also, he might be at Hogwarts to defend Buckbeak under Dumbledore or Hagrid's request.
It’s said that when Hagrid was in Azkaban and the other professor Plank was gone, Newt stepped in to be the teacher since he is the one that wrote the book that all the students use for class.
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My personal theory is a combination of 1 and 2. He came at Dumbledore's request to save Buckbeak. Visiting an old friend while saving a magical creature.
"At some point before 1992, Scamander authored A Children's Anthology of Monsters, for younger readers.[35]
In 2017, Scamander denied the rumours that he was sent to New York by his former teacher Professor Dumbledore to spy on the government there and find out any new information about Grindelwald's whereabouts. Scamander said he thought it was absurd he would pose as a magizoologist to achieve that, but admitted it was a bad idea to take a suitcase of creatures to New York.[36]" Harry Potter Wiki Good video though. I love to watch your videos.
I rather like the idea that Newt was so scarred by being expelled that he returned to Hogwarts, forever to "haunt" its halls...
I think he's more relieved being expelled bc he can spend time studying about creatures especially his book has achieved recognition by hogwarts itself..
Newt knows soo many amazing properties of many magical animals. More than likely magical properties that could even be desired and put such creatures in danger, many of which he pry didn't make public to avoid said creatures being hunted to extinction. Perhaps one such found property was a property to extend life and simply didn't disclose it in his book to protect it from poachers. That's my theory anyway.
Or hell maybe he's chugging unicorn semen, since the blood can sustain life maybe other substances from the creature can be just as helpful if not more so while not hurting the creature during extraction, idk, :o
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He was younger than Dumbledore. Unless it's confirmed he died in 1992, it's highly likely he was still alive.
I really like the idea that he was there to help save Buckbeak if Harry and Hermione couldn't. You explained the reasons why perfectly.
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If he's a ghost I can see his unfinished business being with naginii..
Newt was Dumbledore's spy. How else does he know everything that goes on in the castle.
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Newt could have been after the SNAKE that was a part of Voldemort (NAGINI) who he met in Fantastic Beasts.
Or he could be helping teach Hagrid before his lessons start and work on what creatures to show and tell.
Possible reasons 1: He came to defend buckbeak for hagrid. 2: He was "taking care" of the dementors.. 3: They had just found a giant basilisk in the castle the previous year and he was researching it. (which i think is likely) at dumbledores request. 4: They had just been a confirmed warewolf sighting on the grounds so he was there to make sure "it" was okay. 5: the whomping willow maybe technically counted as an animal so he was looking after that after it had tried to bash the gang 6: in the previous year fawkes had a "Burning day" so would still be a baby chick and he was helping dumbledore look after him.