Is It A Sin For Women To Wear Pants?
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- There are a lot of Christian groups who believe its a sin for women to wear pants and they believe that only men can wear pants. Is this biblical? Does the bible specifically prohibit women from wearing pants? Well, in this video I look at a bunch of arguments that people use to support their beliefs and I give my thoughts on this issue and tackle some of the verses that people use to support the view that its a sin for women to wear pants.
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Its uncomfortable when i go to the house of God and sitting infront of me a woman showing all her stuff
Well that’s obviously wrong for her to do. I don’t even bother returning to churches that allow that stuff.
I get excited and full of lust.
I used to be part of a christian organization that focused on men in pants & women in skirts.
Firstly, I always loved wearing dresses and skirts prior to becoming a born again believer, so following the church rule was not stressful for me.
But I will never forget the day my eyes were opened. I was reading the well known passage in Deuteronomy and it hit me like a thenderbolt. Hey wait a minute, I thought to myself, when this was written thousands of years ago.....both the man and the woman wore robes.
The clothing looked essentially the same, but with some slight differences, just like with modern clothing some 20 plus years ago. Buttons and zippers are on different sides. Womens blouses and pants are made to complement a womans shape.
Modesty should be about keeping the jiggly bits covered.
Before I start my comment, I will first disclose that I am an ordained Baptist pastor and evangelist. My beliefs are very conservative, probably much more so than the average, run of the mill IFBB. But like Christ, I tend to focus on the heart, rather than the rules of Pharisees, whether they be First or Twenty-first Century. I have pastored KJV (which I still preach from exclusively) Independent Baptist Churches, and done revivals in many others. I am now ostracized by those same churches as a "compromiser", as I preach the Gospel in any group or denomination that is willing to hear the Truth of God's Word. As far as the subject at hand, my wife is the most Godly woman I have ever met. She is the very epitome of a Proverbs 31 woman, and a great soul winner. Most of the time she wears dresses and skirts as a matter of choice, but will occasionally wear dress slacks. My wife loves the Lord, but was devastated at a "Women's Retreat" where there were above 500 women. Yes, my wife wore slacks, and was only one out of two women who wore slacks that day. Guess what the message was? Yup, pretty much you are a Harlotrous Jezebel if you are a woman who wears slacks. My beautiful, soul-winning, Jesus loving wife was made to feel like a whore by a bunch of women who haven't done 1/100 of 1 percent of the ministry for Christ's Kingdom as she has. Just as an observation, most of the women there were FAT, and not just a little. Never heard a sermon on that sin at a IFBB event. Guess it is easier to point fingers at pants then the rampant gluttony of most Baptists.
@bootsie280 No, she is a mature Christian who is well aware of the attacks of Satan. Just last night, after working all day at a high stress job, we took a bus load of kids to the park and told them about Jesus. Most of these kids wouldn't be welcome at IFBB churches either, as some are mixed race, and none are wearing black suits and cullotes. I learned sound doctrine as an ordained IFBB, but their rigidness (they call it standards, sheesh) and hateful attitudes toward everyone and everything drove us far away from that cult-like setting.
I think you are conservative but not legalistic tho. What I found a good thing. My church lets women teach men and pastor. Do you think I am legalistic for leaving the church ?
Thank you in advance
Do you recommend a youtube channel I can follow ?
@lenajanssens7859 No, you are not a legalistic for leaving a "church" that allows women to preach to and teach men. It is clearly unbiblical, as the Lord has created us for equal, yet different roles in the church.
Some ministries I highly recommend are as follows, in no particular order:
Adrian Rogers-Love Worth Finding. Gone to be with the Lord nearly 20 years ago, but still as relevant as ever.
Dr. John Barnett- DTBM
Jack Hibbs- Real Life
I also like Charles Stanley (but stay FAR away from his son Andy!), David Jeremiah, the Christian Worship Hour, and others. However, there are a lot of false teachers out there, and I would line everything up with Scripture. Just recently, a man I admired and listened to for decades promoted the false doctrine of Universalism, that everyone is saved, whether they have heard of Jesus or not. Of course, if you are really desperate, you can listen to my TH-cam channel, Messages From the Bible. I preach the same Gospel as those other fellas I mentioned, however, I am just not nearly as well spoken or charismatic. I pastor a small, but evangelistic church, that brings in a bunch of kids, and we see folks come to saving faith in Christ frequently. None of these men are perfect, but the ones I mentioned are solid and will not lead you astray. Just for info, I did not grow up in a conservative, Bible preaching church, but in a denomination that had many false doctrines, including that of women pastors. When I threw aside denominational beliefs, and instead trusted the Scripture, I got saved (Nov. 26th, 1994) and have been proclaiming Jesus the best I can since.
@@PastorBrian1969 Thank you very much ! I am in hunger for a solid teacher. No matter how elquont tge preacher or how big the church. So thank you very much. And yes you still need to verify even a pastor you trust cause you never know ! Thank you and I will follow you too !!
I've been preaching modesty for years. The way women dressed in Jesús time was clear. They never caused anyone to lust. Only the prostitutes dressed differently. Even the prostitutes didn't show as much as your typical woman of today
Agreed
@@iThinkBiblically I AGREE TOO
"They never caused anyone to lust".....then how was it possible for a man to "look upon a woman with lust" as Christ said?
I agree with dressing modestly, but how far are we going to take it? Are we going to have them cover their ankles and wrists as the Islamists demand....so as not to cause their reprobate male followers to lust?
Things have changed
@@susanmudau9000 God is the same forever. Clothing may have changed but the goal should be to cover up. We shouldn't show much of our body
I keep telling people the Bible speaks of modesty for women and men of God. We are NOT to stumble people in church and outside of church and excite them to lust and sin. We are supposed to consider one another and our neighbor in all things including dress. However it is NOT a sin if a woman wears pants that’s NOT what the scripture is saying. Don’t forget your clothing will NOT be judged but OUR hearts will be judged for God doesn’t look at outer appearance but God looks at the ❤heart.. Amen👏👏👏💯😊🙌
By the way as a woman of God I wear modest pants happily with no conviction of The Holy Spirit. I have seen women wearing long dresses sweeping the floor hair long like Rapunzel and their attitudes are horrible but they have long dresses on…lol. What a contradiction and hypocrisy..smh
I am a woman in her 70s and haven't worn a dress in years. I wear pants for comfort and modesty, as I am able to move freely and know I am covered. My entire type of dress is feminine, and even when engaged in rough, dirty activities such as gardening or hiking, no one would mistake me for a man. When I lived in a tropical country, I wore skirts because the air flow was cooling. Men there came home from work, shed the trousers, showered, and put on a wrapped "skirt" for comfort.
I was told a long time ago, that if you think everything is a sin, then it's a sin your mind. God is loving, forgiving and merciful. Maybe these holy then thou people forgot that.
I was taught that I could not wear pants, but thankfully I left that nonsense behind.
Good for you. Pentecostals are full of extra biblical stuff I found and they look down on others who don’t
Modesty is not nonese . Modesty is biblical.
@@CalledUntoHoliness Modesty isn’t not wearing pants. It’s about not flaunting your wealth. I get looked down on for wearing a 2 dollar thrift shop short sleeve dress shirt yet the others wear expensive fitted suits. Don’t be a whore yes but pants isn’t automatic whore or cross dresseing woman.
@@CalledUntoHoliness there are skirts that are more erotic and exposing and immoral than pants
@@dooior4092 skirts in general are more modest
Context is very very important when reading the scriptures. So so many people distort God's word and misinterpret it. Some DRILL it into their congregations as if they are disobedient if they don't wear dresses and some forbid make up as well!
I believe you're right that the "breeches" (britches) were basically an undergarment. I think they likely covered the entire loin and thigh area and were not some type of trousers. I was an Independent Baptist. Although some might accuse them of going too far most simply tried to obey the Bible the best it was understood and to follow the leadership that has been around for many years. Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you." I personally think that a woman can be just as provocative in a dress as in women's slacks or even more provocative. Then again, the same can be said of way too tight slacks, low-cut blouses, too sheer of material, etc. Modesty and setting out to please the Lord with the way you dress is the crucial thing.
Yes. So true. No 🚫 cross- dressing
I would like to throw an "argument " into this conversation (and i am a HUGE fan of Calebs channel so i am not challenging or anything like that!) My mom was always VERY strict on my sister and i when we were growing up in how we dressed, as well as being involved in church programs and AWANA being strict on the length of shorts, etc. we did not have yo wear only skirts or dresses (and my sister and i kinda steered away from them cause of our local baptist church, everyone knew who was a part of that church just by how the girls looked, think Duggars! Lol 😂) we always looked like lovely and Godly ladies. This included our hair and jewelry, etc. As a 40 year old with two girls of my own, the way I and now my girls dress is the same! But, heres my argument. Its mostly againt the whole "we must'en let men stumble by our dress". Sinve ive been of legal age, so not a child or teenager, the amount of men who would be considered my elders in church and out of, that say nasty inappropriate and unacceptable things to me, even tho I have nothing showing nor given a "reason" to cause them to stumble, it still happens. And its disgusting! So the argument about being proper to keep men from stumbling, I believe is foul and giving men who are perverted an excuse to blame their issues on someone besides themselves.
I think both the tempter and the one who falls into sin as a result of that temptation are in the wrong. When Satan tempts us we have a choice but that doesn't mean that Satan didn't do anything wrong when he tempted us. I think its good your family dresses modestly. Praise God. But yes, even then people will still sin.
I lean towards baptist fundamentalism so this video was very informative for me. I agree with you, and you answered all the questions I had about this subject. Thanks for using the KJV as well, it helped a lot.
That is for this comment. Glad you appreciated me using the Kjv
Good video. Thank you. ... I tried not to, but I basically argued with a Christian brother over this last year. I was just turned off by how legalistic he was. I have never thought that women wearing pants made them like men, and I don't view them as being provocative for wearing them either. I have always understood that modesty is the main point.
Some very good points made on this video. We also need to remember that we are living in NT times, under the New covenant, not under the OT law, which was given to Israel. Verses like 1 Timothy 2:8 - "...that women adorn themselves in modest apparel..."(KJV), is relevant to us. Modesty is the key, I believe, according to the Bible standard. So whether dresses, skirts and tops, or pants and tops, they should be modest, having proper coverage, and not to put a 'stumbling block' in any man's way. Even in how we dress, every part of a Christian's life should be to honour the Lord. Blessings.
I think that modern women decided to wear whatever they wanted as a way to advance feminism. We have to be careful about how we digest the word of God. If you feel confused by any biblical subject, please pray, fast, God is faithful to instruct you. Please do not just argue, pray to the LORD, he will guide you through righteousness. Thank you.
A you please do a video on hair colour and make up? Thanks
Don't stop making this great content! ❤️
Modesty for self preservation is important, but practicality is also something that women have to deal with, a dress is really unpractical for day to day tasks.
It wouldn't have been not that long ago but today that's true.
I recently addressed our sisters to talk to one of the young girls in our youth about her dress code
Greetings! I liked the distinctions made and biblical breakdown of the topic. I also appreciated the acknowledged nuances involved in this particular situation. Western civilization accepts pants as masculine apparel to the degree, as you mentioned, those in the middle east regions that wear tunics and robes seem feminine to us because of the distinctions made. I hold to the notion that a woman's femininity is on full display when she is clothed in a dress or long skirt. This is, to me, for the public. At home, my wife and daughters wear loose fitting pants and I have no issue with that. This is, as you've mentioned, something that must be concluded for each believer and if there is any definitive stance to be held, the Holy Spirit will make it clear to all that seeks clarity. It must be noted that women that choose to dress in long flowing apparel are not harassed or sexualized by men quite as much as those that choose to wear close fitting apparel, this is in regards to pants, dresses, skirts, and blouses.
There are scriptures that speak to modesty and avoiding the appearance of evil in the NT. Thank you for sharing this video.
THANK YOU FOR THIS BIBLICAL TEACHING!!!
I attend a Southern Baptist Church & sometimes attend an Independent Baptist Church with male neighbors. They accept me wearing pants. This clarifies this stance on wearing dresses for females that they preach & teach.
You should do a video on whether women need to cover their hair from a Biblical perspective
Very educational. Thank you.
Thank you for clearing this up. Too bad that some ladies do not heed to be modest in their dressing. They should think of the brothers that could stumble.
How far to take it so "the brothers" don't have to stumble because of their OWN lack of self control? Maybe the Burka...making sure the wrists and ankles are covered...."so the brothers don't stumble"
The video commentator made some good points. However, the Scriptures are NOT going to forbid pants in a literal sense. Why? Because pants were not worn in the Middle East, which was Israel’s locale and still is until the time of the medo-Persian empire, which was centuries AFTER Moses’ time when he gave the levitical-priesthood laws. The Scripture read in Deuteronomy did state-Pertaineth. Therefore, if pants for men were worn by women in Moses’ time, then it would have been a FORBIDDEN practice. Garments pertaining to the male and female genders are in alignment with society’s socio-political structure, which obviously changes throughout the centuries. In essence, the Scriptures are NOT going to detail socio-political trends of society for obvious reasons. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that it’s a cardinal sin for women to wear pants, but I will say that it is a cardinal sin for a CHRISTIAN woman to wear pants if she’s wearing them two to three sizes SMALLER, if so, then it’s obvious there’s an ulterior motive in her heart, and that’s what God will judge. One has to look at the historical continuity of pants before assessing it with the Scriptures. However, I do agree with the video commentator’s implication that one should do what your human-moral conscious states because, technically, there’s still nothing wrong with women wearing dresses or skirts (but NOT the revealing ones), yes, that I do certainly agree with. Lord bless!!!
..... I used to be in a church that forbid women from church ministry, even teaching Sunday school, if wearing pants. I was completely shocked when I realized when Deuteronomy was written, both men and women looked very similarly dressed in ROBES. There were subtle differences but still long robes.
Great discernment Caleb. My mother wears women's pants, and so I grew up witnessing that and never thought it immoral for her or any other woman for that matter. Still a challenge getting them to accept and practice the head-covering custom however.
Good points. Modesty is key imo. I'm older and have been in various circles over the decades. One observation my wife ad I noted re "women/dresses-only" crowd is seeing some women wears jeans etc at home during a supper invite, or sometimes an evening church service. That kind of reminded me of my late Father's observation re very charismatic Christians and signs/gifts : he said he noticed they do no such thing meeting the same people in the street or when grocery shopping.
Maybe not pants like jeans, but what about thin yoga pants where they show a little bit much 😮
It is a sin for a woman to wear men's attire. Just as it is a sin for a man to wear women's attire. It does not mention pants. But the principle is don't masquerade as the opposite gender. The sin is in the intent to deceive. There is a parallel to that. it appears in 1 Corinthians 1whereas what we are talking about appears in 1 Corinthians 11. In 1 Paul handles the inception of denominationalism. 'is Christ divided'? 'Was Paul Crucified for you'? Today we have denominations that masquerade as the church. Both topics are about deception.
Good point....well thought out.
Exactly it’s the intention of the person
Great show and I agree! And i'm glad your using the true translation, the KJV
If we are going to enforce verse 5, should we not also enforce the other statements in the chapter? We all like to pick and choose. It is less about scripture and more about culture. We have exported that culture overseas. We lived and ministered in Nigeria for several years and remember a church compound having a sign at the gate that said "women with trousers not allowed." That was just one of the things we added to the gospel.
That's what I'm wondering. Is this like circumcision?
Tight pants that accentuates a woman's body is immodest and same goes for men.
How we dress shows what's on the inside.
Now, those who wear such nonsense, should not wear it when we gather to worship God.
DO NOT CAUSE A BREATHREN TO STUMBLE FOR THIS IS A SIN!
AWESOME MESSAGE 😮
Good video brother
Thoughts on this, please...added scripture ever better... If a church requires you to wear a dress to work or worship there, should we consider it a false church regardless if their teaching of the gospel is clear?
I can't help noticing that the church people with strict dress codes are often the same church people who are racially prejudiced (although some of them deny it). That's not true in all cases, but it is in some. People need to focus less on what they (and others) wear and more on how they view and treat others!
Pants are fine as long as they’re not tight and are worn with tops long enough to cover the behind and hips.
From the picture the Egyptians wore skimpy clothing with possible pagan emblem and possible with no under covering.
Zephaniah 1:8 And it shall come to pass in the day of the Lord's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.
Sir can you say something about women covering there hair?
Good stuff!
I have never in one of my Independent Fundamentalist Churches heard a sermon on women’s clothing, and we try to love and make feel welcome everyone who attends our church no matter their dress. What one wears in an individual decision between them and God. The Pastor should preach the Bible, the way one responds is their responsibility.
When I saw this tittle i actually laughed i cant believe its even an issue. Though having said that i think some pants are to revealing & all clothing that arouses sensuality should be kept in your bedroom not worn in public. One should dress with your fellow Christian brother or sister in mind we dont want to put temptation infront of them. I've been in church sat behind young ladies who are wearing pants so tight its hard not to look as a man & a ladies shaply bum, lets face it men, is very attractive to us & can arouse us which is not good ( same rule for men by the way not just ladies regarding dress ).
Yeah, it’s actually a big deal in some circles.
God looks on the heart ❤️
Hebrews chapter 4 and verse 12.
From the Old Street Preacher ✝️
I wonder how much of this is considered to be like circumcision? Is this like the beard cutting ect is it just more like following the law? Not the ten commandments but all the other laws that we dont follow today? Im sure somone will use that argument. Where he says no other burden will we lay on them.
No, pants that are loose fitting, not skin tight, are fine for every day, casual wear, cold weather, certain activities. Dresses or skirts are better for church, going out. They’re more feminine. They do not need to be ankle length! No shorter than knee length. Miniskirts are not modest. Pants/skirts are Western culture. In other countries, both wear skirts/robes, or both wear loose fitting pants and a tunic on top.
Tell a woman she can't wear slacks ( designed for o=women) and won't waste my time in that church. My rule is use good sense. they can fit a bit snug, but don't spray paint them on. The ones who would argue this; from such turn away
Another proof scripture that has been used for men only wearing pants is Job 38;3 when God told him “gird up your loins like a man”. They say a woman would not gird up her loins. A man would often times while working fold his tunic up into a waistband, thus making two pant legs. A woman would not do this. Of course the context of the verse in Job is really saying “answer me like a man”. It is also interesting that skirts are mentioned in the Bible, but being worn by a man.
That's a stretch. Girding one's loins is about being manly it's not about outfit.
* “gird up your loins like a man”. * We have a modern equivalent to that phrase... 'Stop being a wuss'.
Some guys try to prove that it is a sin for women to be preaches the word of God (1 Timothy 2:12). Not so sure if this is correct.
Are woman required to cover their heads when they pray?
How many country songs have to be made about women in blue jeans before people get it? Seek modesty women
Mel McDaniel says,
Down on the corner by the traffic light
Everybody's lookin' as she goes by
They turn their heads, and they watch her 'til she's gone
Lord have mercy, baby's got her blue jeans on.
Who doesn't love a fine pair of blue jeans on the right woman? Pleased to hear it's
not a sin!
Hi. Can you do a video about hair cutting?
Leviticus 19:27 KJV [27] Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the corners of thy beard.
Leviticus 19:27 NIV [27] “ ‘Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard.
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All who rely on works of the law are under a curse. For it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law" ---Galatians 3
@TheRealRenn So are you saying I can commit murder? Matthew 5:17-20 KJV [17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. [18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. [19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
@@taiwoaaademiluyi I did not say anything...period. I quoted the Apostle Paul from Galatians chapter 3. Perhaps it best, since you appear to be good at throwing out multiple verses after asking a question, to go read Galatians again.
@@TheRealRenn I wish you a good day.
Just look at public bathrooms doors one has dress one has pants do the women go in the one with pants 👖
It's better for women to wear blue jeans, dress pants, and slacks than to wear yoga pants - respectively.
No jeans or sinful pants. Dresses below the knees are allowed
Great Vid by the way. Always amuses me when I hear "woman wears dresses - men wear pants" carry on. Never seem to see those who advocate this to say that to the guys wearing dress like apparel (lava lavas) at the local Tongan or Samoan Churches ...LOL ! I had no problems wearing a Great Kilt to Kirk.
"What wear trou?..away with ye ye sassenach !"
I think it is normal for women to wear dresses. And wear pants, if they want to. Dresses as in normal dresses, not slutty dresses.
No sinful pants for women
Love a video of Sabbath
Could you see a woman farmer, factory worker, police officer, construction worker, EMT, fireman, etc., trying to wear a skirt or dress in those lines of work? Not only would it be inconvenient for their job, it could be hazardous.
Women shouldn't even be in half of those jobs.
I think God wants us to take clothing distinctions seriously. Hence why he calls crossdressers an abomination. God created men and women separate. So, any person ought to think of what message their clothing sends. 🤔 Hopefully, it's, "I am fearfully and wonderfully made a man/woman by Almighty God, and I'm proud He made me what I am." 🤗 I could be wrong, but in my country, Feminism might have been behind the pants switch for women, so it's prudent that we give thought to the agendas the world has for us, and that we stay on God's agenda. Ultimately, it's matter of thought and heart-posture.
I agree with you, but in the time when the OT was written all men wore something we would call dresses.
@@MultiSky7 I know. The OT verse says nothing about pants. That's misguided. I'm talking based on our cultural standards. 👍
As ladies we wear women's pants, not men's. With so many people blabbing you need to dress like us. I was in one of these cult's and I'm never going back. It's spiritual abuse for complete control over you. They take everything out of context and only focus on the outside appearance. No more institutionalized church.
As a man I certainly don't have anything against females wearing pants as long as they are able to still look feminine and different from the kind that males wear. Furthermore I certainly also don't have anything against females doing the traditional thing of wearing dresses, either, because they still are the most representative attire of femininity. The dresses just need to be totally modest for the occasion. Dresses for females are great as long as they still appear respectable and are adequately modest for the wearer. Has anyone ever noticed how many girls and women have been wearing miniskirts and short dresses to church let along to any other occasion? In the name of causing others to stumble, not only do a number of females end up flashing a lot of skin but they also end up unintentionally flashing others when they sit (and also if they crouch down) as well as a result of this. The only bigger problem than this is there are a number of males who love this, and look for opportunities of voyeurism of this as well. So with all of this in mind we need to keep encourage the wearing of dresses on females only and keep encouraging them to appreciate their femininity and the close that make it, but females do need to be encouraged to be totally modest with the kind of length and fullness and fabric of dresses that they choose to wear so that they do not encourage others to lust after them and stumble. Even when males are at fault for some of the ways they allow their lusts to dominate and they take advantage of females like in situations like these, still the buck has to stops with the females by they way any of them choose to dress.
These are the type of things that cause weird church doctrine and distort and distract from the true gospel.
When I hear arguments about pants or beards or using horse drawn carriages, it’s such a small minded group of people that reduce the gospel to this .
The principle of having a difference between the attires of men and women is Biblical. There is no sin in wearing long dresses for women and pants for men. What is the issue? It fulfills the principle of scripture. In the old testament also, the priest wore breeches as under garments.
Every Legalist Loves to Add their “Teaching” to Scripture “Their” Regulation,Rules,Terms, Etc…I can go on forever.
Well Its Seems The Scriptures is not Good enough for them.
AS my wife just said, it appears their ultimate goal is not to separate themselves from the world, but rather to separate themselves from other Christ followers...to appear superior...more godly
Good grief. I used to go to a Christian college where women could never wear pants. After four years I was so sick of the rules I refused to go to grad school there.
All is lawful and permissible all is never good and for my soul none shall enslave me
Galatians 3. Galatians 5:4.
Could you please do a teaching on slavery in the bible 🙏
Pants that cover for sure ..
But not pants that reveal ..
I grew up in the Greek orthodox church and we weren't allowed to wear pants. They can't tell you why though
From the New Testament:
1 Timothy 2:9 KJB
“In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;”
What is shamefacedness?
Excess of modesty.
You cannot have excess of modesty in jeans as a woman. Nor leggings. They provoke lust. I know because I wore them for 17 years before the Lord saved me. After, he gave me a desire for true modest apparel. Long answer short, yes it is. Because a woman who fears the Lord will not want to leave any space for the possibility of provoking lust. That’s not legalism, it’s wisdom. The scripture is clear. :)
It is legalism, because it doesn't say "pants". So you made it up. THAT is legalism.
@@global1007 Hi, do you know what legalism means? Or are you just saying it because you’ve heard other people use that term? Legalism pertains to the law. I don’t keep the law, because Jesus came to fulfill it. If I were saying that Christians are to offer animal sacrifices and keep the sabbath, you’d have a right to call me legalistic. Modesty is a Bible doctrine. A New Testament doctrine. The Bible says “study to shew thyself approved, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” the Lord saved me and taught me to study what modesty means, what it consists of and what it doesn’t. Pants for women are not modest. Along with many other things, makeup etc.. just like there are certain things that men shouldn’t wear because it’s not modest. Any God fearing woman or man will be careful to dress in a way that’s pleasing to God.
”For behold this selfsame thing, that ye sorrowed after a godly sort, what carefulness it wrought in you, yea, what clearing of yourselves, yea, what indignation, yea, what fear, yea, what vehement desire, yea, what zeal, yea, what revenge! In all things ye have approved yourselves to be clear in this matter.“
2 Corinthians 7:11 KJV
I could give you much more scripture regarding the new birth and how that should also show on the outside and the outward adorning. I haven’t seen you give me one verse of scripture to back up what you’re saying
@@Jesussaves532 I agree on modesty. I know that it is biblical. But may I be clear, legalism is also building your own law. It is not only in reference to Moses's law. You can set up a new rule, and it is legalism. Check the definition of the term.
I know that modesty is important. But it does not say "pants" in any way or the other. That is your own law.
@@global1007 It doesn’t say “shorts” either or “plunging v-necks”, or “high heels” but are those modest? No. Come on. Just because a certain word isn’t in the Bible means God is fine with it? Trying to modernize God is dangerous. I recommend you don’t do that. The true God of the Bible, Jesus Christ (not the false god of modern new age Christianity) wants women to be shamefaced. To have excess of modesty. Period. Amish and Mennonites are good examples of legalistic religious groups, sure they keep themselves covered with long modest dresses which is good, but then they say things like you have to wear a head covering and not let your hair down (when the Bible says a woman’s hair is given to her for a covering) they don’t follow the Bible in the fear of the Lord, they don’t do those things with understanding, they’re just following rules of men, they’re religious. So in cases like that, I would agree that modesty can be taken too far, not because it’s excess, but because they’re adding to the scriptures.
@@global1007 I know what legalism means. Have you studied what modesty means? Where do you get your standard of modesty? Preference maybe? Other women? I get mine from the word of God.
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STRANGE, adjective [Latin]
1. Foreign; belonging to another country.
I do not contemn the knowledge of strange and divers tongues. [This sense is nearly obsolete.]
2. Not domestic; belonging to others.
So she impatient her own faults to see, turns from herself, and in strange things delights. [Nearly obsolete.]
3. New; not before known, heard or seen. The former custom was familiar; the latter was new and strange to them. Hence,
4. Wonderful; causing surprise; exciting curiosity. It is strange that men will not receive improvement, when it is shown to be improvement.
Sated at length, ere long I might perceive strange alteration in me.
5. Odd; unusual; irregular; not according to the common way.
He's strange and peevish.
6. Remote. [Little Used.]
7. Uncommon; unusual.
This made David to admire the law of God at that strange rate.
8. Unacquainted.
They were now at a gage, looking strange at one another.
9. Strange is sometimes uttered by way of exclamation.
STRANGE! What extremes should thus preserve the snow, high on the Alps, or in deep caves below.
This is an elliptical expression for it is strange.
STRANGE, verb transitive To alienate; to estrange. [Not in use.]
STRANGE, verb intransitive
1. To wonder; to be astonished. [Not in use.]
2. To be estranged or alienated. [Not in use.]
Dresses these days are soooo tight and um modest that leaves us women that want to be modest only choice to wear pants 😊
God looks at our heart not at if we wear pants .
If someone squatted down they would have to lift their tunic out of the way...
I train horses and i wear pants so thanks 😊
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People need to remember clothing appearal was different in biblical times. Everyone wore robes. Also Roman men soldiers wore skirts, you see them in Jesus movies. Also in Egypt the men wore skirts.The scriptures teaches against men or women fashioning themselves to attract the same sex by wearing things a women would or a man would, this includes fashioning your hair like a women, or like a man. Religious folks try to say all men with long hair is a sin, and thats not true because Life long Nazarites were instructed to not shave their hair while living holy, so Nazirites had long hair. The bible is warning both men & women about is the character/ behavioral with fashioning to be as a man, or a woman, if you were not born as it. The behavior warning also goes for women wearing jewelry and trusting in their beauty like Ezekiel 16:9-15. Although you see God fashioning the women with the jewelry, if her character is not of God she trust in her own beauty and becomes whorish. This does not mean every women will or wont. Nor does it mean its a sin to have jewelry. But religion says it is. Read the bible people.🤔
I was around back in the day when this issue came to the forefront of christian culture. With a little research and application of logic, I came to the understanding and conclusion that pants and skirts were society's standard, not God's. And more than a little bit geared to the fleshly pleasures of men. I reject this. At nearly 66, I wear jeans, suspenders and flannel shirts unashamedly. I still look like a girl and I don't have to worry about "unwanted attention" from men I'm not married to and my little micro farm can have my attention without me tripping over a long skirt.
( loose lewd and no shame )
1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array
MOD'EST, adjective [Latin modestus, from modus, a limit.]
1. Properly, restrained by a sense of propriety; hence, not forward or bold; not presumptuous or arrogant; not boastful; as a modest youth; a modest man.
2. Not bold or forward; as a modest maid. The word may be thus used without reference to chastity.
The blushing beauties of a modest maid.
3. Not loose; not lewd.
Mrs. Ford, the honest woman, the modest wife.
4. Moderate; not excessive or extreme; not extravagant; as a modest request; modest joy; a modest computation.
Shamefacedness
SHA'MEFACEDNESS, noun Bashfulness; excess of modesty.
Gluttony is sinful .
I think the scripture you quoted from Deuteronomy carries much if the same impression that we find in the NT, in 1 Corinthians 11: 1-14,especially verse 14. The lesson is this: GOD WANTS THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN to be READILY, and EASILY,and VISIBLY known! This is especially important now, when tge world openly challenges everything taught in the Scriptures.! .... because men in particular,are tempted by what they see,its very important for women to dress modestly! A former pastor of mine put it like this: a woman should nit wear clothing that REVEALS ir ACCENTUATES the female form".
You meant woman shouldn't wear pants in church right?
No It's not sinful for women to wear Pants.
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Deuteronomy 22:5 has literally nothing to do with any believer, anywhere, any time ever. It was actually referring to military dress, not every day dress. Adam Clarke explains it well, "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man - כלי גבר keli geber, the instruments or arms of a man. As the word גבר geber is here used, which properly signifies a strong man or man of war, it is very probable that armor is here intended ..." It is obscene, dishonest, coercive and disrespectful to God and His Word to use Deuteronomy 22:5 as a way to control what a woman should or should not wear today.
The verse says a man shall not wear what belongs to women nor should a woman wear what belongs to a man now think about this pants were originally created for men therefore if you are wearing pants as a woman you are wearing what belongs to a man it’s a reason there a zipper in the front of pants can women actually use that zipper for what it was created for their a reason GOD don’t want you to wear each other clothes because it’s spiritual if a man puts on a dress he will feel feminine a woman wearing pants puts her In her masculine energy look at these women today there all masculine
Pants are for men , and dresses are for women. There is quite a difference in modesty when a dress is worn. This type of dress aligns with not usurping a nans place, also the example of the grace of humility .
A woman in a dress is teaching humility. And it says so in the bible. Suffer not woman to wear mens garb.
As homo sapiens God gave us hair on skins for wear that’s all we need should anyone need more is a personal choice
Let's not forget the Scots and their kilts.
Why is this still a topic for discussion in 2024, be happy people cover their privates at all
I thought pants was for woman back in China ? I was in a Pentecostal church who didn’t allow pants to be warn or cut my hair or shave your legs earrings etc etc it’s all about control I was out of there
If you are going to use the argument asking where does the bible say pants are for men and skirts are for woman. Then one can ask you where does the bible say skirts are for women only? That is a bad argument.
I agree we shouldnt be adding extra rules we shouldnt be like the jews with the Talmud.
That's just disgusting, and if not for the CCTV I'm sure men would be blamed for leaving the turd there. 😂. Great video btw.
I’m of the opinion that it shouldn’t even be an issue if a woman wears pants or wears a dress or a skirt with a nice top. It’s these legalistic rules that these so-called “pastors” in the IFB and Apostolic Pentecostal churches impose on their church members that’s the problem. If a woman feels comfortable in pants or slacks then she should be entitled to wear them. PERIOD.
Depends what you mean by slacks. I don't think women should wear tight fitting clothes like leggings in public.
@@iThinkBiblically What I mean by pants is something like a pantsuit, like they would wear to the office or church. In public, however, yes, I agree with you , keep the leggings reserved for the gym or at home for lounging around.
I'm not arguing here but I think this whole thing about women wearing pants, whether in church or in daily life, are fine on a woman, they don't need to get dolled up and put on a nice fancy dress just to do grocery shopping, it's their choice if they want to, who am I to judge? What matters is what SHE wants, not what some, sorry to say this, jackass standing behind a pulpit wants.
What I'm getting sick and tired of if the legalism in the church, preferably the IFB, taking Scripture verses COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT and making a rule that "must be followed or else" It's ridiculous and downright abusive for a "pastor" to tell his church members how to dress and act.
I also just heard that the JWs are going to allow women to wear pants in the Kingdom Halls and out in field service, and Men don't have to wear a tie AND can grow beards now. How's that for a newsflash?
@@iThinkBiblicallywhat about skinny jeans? Normally, I looked at skinny jeans as an tire that covers legs. Point blank. By default some pants were made up close to the skin but of course not tight. "Tight" would be getting a size that's actually not your size. Most of the time if I wear skinny jeans I don't have the intentions to show off my curves nor look feminine. I just want to wear clothing that cover my legs. I hope to be convicted if my style becomes ungodly
Well if someone feels it is wrong for women to wear trouser then unto him it is a sin,if the culture forbids u to wear pant bcos there fill it a woman clothing then u will be rebellious to were it
Deuteronomy 22-5 ALL the GLORY to GOD in the MIGHTY and POWERFUL name of z
JESUS is LORD and MASTER of ALL pb720+
Actually it’s probably sinful for women to be masculine