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The Crimewatch Years Special Edition: 10 Unsolved Murders 1984 / 1985

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  • The Crimewatch Years
    10 Unsolved Murders from 1984 / 1985
    Gary Collins
    Janice Weston
    Stephen Sylvester and Hardeep Sangha (The Minicab Murders)
    Shelley Morgan
    Lloyd Simpson
    Yvonne Coley
    Jackie Waines
    Beverley Trendall
    Violet Milsom
    Thank you to Redcard74 for uploading the original content

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  • @th8257
    @th8257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Some updates on a few of the cases:
    Yvonne Coley is now regarded by police as a possible victim of serial killer Alun Kyte. In 1996, police started "project enigma" looking at over 200 unsolved murders of women, many of them sex workers. They reopened over 70 of the cases. They identified 21 potential clusters of murders and felt that several serial killers may have been at work. Kyte, a lorry driver, was known to have attacked sex workers in the Birmingham area, and in other parts of the country where his work took him. Kyte was also recently convicted for the violent sexual abuse of a young boy many years ago. It's sobering to think that he would have only been 19-20 years old when Yvonne died.
    There has been some speculation that serial killer Christopher Haliwell was responsible for the Jackie Waines case. But police have said there was no evidence to link him to the case.
    There's been all kinds of speculation about the Janice Weston case ranging from there possibly being drugs in the spare wheel that was taken from her car, to her husband allegedly being involved. He inherited a large amount of money from her on her death and police questioned him very closely. However, he had been abroad when the murder happened.

    • @colinmcewen9530
      @colinmcewen9530 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      very intresting thankyou

  • @treasurehunteruk9718
    @treasurehunteruk9718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Loved these reconstructions. It is a shame they stopped this programme.

    • @McIntyreBible
      @McIntyreBible ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I agree with your statement. What made this show so interesting was the reconstructions!

    • @th8257
      @th8257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's been back on for years and years, in the mornings. It originally was stopped because nobody was watching it.

    • @str0kedj
      @str0kedj 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@th8257 as per Peter kay "said it isn't as good nowadays" 😅😅

    • @32446
      @32446 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@th8257people were watching but it clashed with other shows. They were still getting 4-5 million viewers. The new format is not as good.

  • @foxybrown656
    @foxybrown656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    10/10 for sticking this up for us to have a look at, takes me back to when I was a KID about this size 🤏🏼 😂 sitting up on the couch next to my Uncle Alan. Good Times!
    ❤💛💚

  • @margaretbanks8969
    @margaretbanks8969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    There was no need to kill dog

  • @th8257
    @th8257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There was a further mysterious development in the Shelley Morgan case in 2019. Police released pictures of two postcards which depicted areas where Shelly was heading on the day she died. The postcards had been torn from a calendar sold by a Bristol hospice charity in the 1980s or 1990s. The police asked for people who had bought the calendar or kept the postcards "possibly for some time" to come forward. They would not say why, when or how the postcards had come to their attention but did say that Shelly's interest in art and the locations she was visiting “hold the key to her killer’s identity”. It's hard to decipher what exactly it all means, but it's possible that the postcards showed up somewhere in a charity jumble sale somewhere or an antiques shop, and possibly had something written on them that related to Shelley which was noticed by someone who knew about the case and taken to the police. So it seems from what the police said that her killer had some connection to the area where she was found, and may possibly have had some shared interest in art (?)

    • @user-xs1yx9tc9m
      @user-xs1yx9tc9m หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they had stamps on them that were licked, they would be able to get a DNA sample from them. There might not be a match to any records though. There maybe a chance with these family tree DNA sites, but not everyone is covered. With the DNA i don't know how 'far removed' (distant relatives) it can be to be useful ? The killer may not have had any children and all close relatives may have died by now.

  • @margaretbanks8969
    @margaretbanks8969 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Whatever the man was the dog was innocent

    • @clioflano421
      @clioflano421 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Woof justice 😢

    • @amycorbett4664
      @amycorbett4664 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Innit, they could’ve just let the dog go as it’s not like it could say anything anyway they could’ve just set her free :(.

    • @EagerForestTrees-ib7fm
      @EagerForestTrees-ib7fm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@amycorbett4664milf

  • @JoeRogansForehead
    @JoeRogansForehead 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    48:20 a nice friendly dog
    “If you keep him away from other dogs”
    Clown world . Look how much more normal that pit looks like compared to the huge ones today

  • @BossySwan
    @BossySwan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Nice video. CCTV would have definitely helped with these cases had it been a few years later!

    • @th8257
      @th8257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's so frustrating isn't it. So many of these crimes would have either been much more difficult to commit now, or much more easily solved if they had happened.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The most unbelievable thing on here is seeing a postman at 8.30am.... 35.53.....?

  • @fraser_mr2009
    @fraser_mr2009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    7:38
    I reckon this is where he kept the stash of drugs. he was stalked and killed for the drugs. somebody knew his routine.
    you don't keep that amount of drugs at your home. i don't do drugs but if i did i would never keep hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of drugs at my home... incase of a police raid.
    i reckon the victim visited the area every so often to collect a small amount to sell, and that the killer knew his routine. yes he probably knew his killer.

    • @sienna5186
      @sienna5186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      actually think you could be spot on, it would make a lot of sense. i know in the drug industry people who you’re close with can end up as enemies. if what you’re saying could be true i reckon it was someone who knew him very well and was close to him. i think it was a huge set up to steal and murder the victim out of jealousy.
      shame they didn’t have the technology and forensics like we do now, most of these cases would be solved…

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah maybe... still no need to kill the dog.

    • @mazfitnessjounery2023
      @mazfitnessjounery2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Defo the person who killed him was someone close to him

    • @amycorbett4664
      @amycorbett4664 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah he will have had a grow of weed in there or maybe shrooms or something like that.

  • @mariacunningham8376
    @mariacunningham8376 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for sharing. Great job.

  • @daevanpatel4207
    @daevanpatel4207 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    59.21. Eighties T.V. was excellent 👌👌👌

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lloyd Simpson felt sorry for his dad .. rip to both .

  • @user-br3bw7wr2l
    @user-br3bw7wr2l 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The actor in the grey coat at 1:08:48 is Jeremy Northam of Gosford Park and “The Tudors” fame. Was fantastic in Enigma (2001) too.

  • @clause4x
    @clause4x 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The actor playing Lloyd Simpson in the reconstruction played Mickey Pearce in Only Fools and Horses

    • @drubber007
      @drubber007 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I never would have noticed that. Thanks for pointing it out Paul.

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Patrick Murray

    • @victorianchristmaslady9481
      @victorianchristmaslady9481 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I thought that !

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yet there was no actual photo of Lloyd Simpson himself shown on crimewatch uk at the time of his case....

  • @th8257
    @th8257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Britain back then was a much grimmer, greyer place, and that's captured in these reconstructions. We were going through deindustrialisation and so many places were full of derelict old buildings or overgrown wasteland. The accompanying mass unemployment is blamed by many for being one of the causes of the huge surge of violent crime in the 80s.

  • @68halima
    @68halima 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I must say they choose actors for the reconstructions who very closely resemble the real people. Unlike American shows where they seem to choose actors who are much better looking 😉
    The other thing that strikes me is how often Victoria station figures in these crimes - must be something in that, but I'm not sure what.
    And, on a completely irrelevant note, the duvet cover in the Janice Weston reinactment flat is the same one that I had in the 80's 😁
    This is just how sad I am - just googled and found that the duvet set was called Fleur de Champs from Habitat and sold in 1985 for about 15 quid. Wow. I feel ancient now. 😎

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the American shows are dire

    • @traceypace6543
      @traceypace6543 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      WOW WHEN I GET KILLED I HOPE IT'S M7CHELLE PHIFFER OR# GOOD LOOKER

    • @noellegunning3301
      @noellegunning3301 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Janice Weston died in September 1983?

    • @kevphillips02
      @kevphillips02 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We don't give 2 hoots about your cheap duvet.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Victoria station was especially busy - it also had a very busy coach station joined on, so it was a good place to blend into the crowd. There were also a lot of lost souls hanging round there, particularly young people. Victoria was notorious for attracting paedophile gangs, rent boys and other prostitutes. Young kids running away from home would get off the train or coach and straight into the waiting arms of predatory people.

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 หลายเดือนก่อน

    RIP Beverley Trendall So sad her mum is also dead now ...

  • @lyndaburn6428
    @lyndaburn6428 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shelley Morgan murder so very sad :(

  • @porkbeans4792
    @porkbeans4792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hear a shotgun don't get involved.

  • @CARLIN4737
    @CARLIN4737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    46 mins, Patrick Murray.

  • @leval1000
    @leval1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That Janice case seems more like a stranger death than an associate killing. Where would they go after killing her? Walk off down the highway. Seems like someone pulled over to help her and killed her then took the items. The person who wanted the licence plate number was probably the killer who wanted something for keepsakes, just like when he took the wheel.

    • @nataliekerrane
      @nataliekerrane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      but then who took her car back to camden leaving her body on the A1? it’s all a bit weird

    • @IanP1963
      @IanP1963 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@nataliekerrane Very !!!

    • @treasurehunteruk9718
      @treasurehunteruk9718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why did she leave her handbag on the bed when she left London? They said she planned to be at home that night, so it sounds like the trip was a spur of the moment thing. She left home with a half finished loaf and bottle of wine, so if she planed to go out, why open them at all? Wonder if someone called when she got home, about the house renovation, as they said that was where she was headed. Whoever killed her could not have known the car would break at that point and would need a new tyre, so it could have been a random attack.

    • @michealhand1001
      @michealhand1001 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe there was 2 people in the car that stopped to change the wheel and 1 of them drove her car?.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's had a lot of theories over the years. Some people said her husband was involved or had arranged it, but he was abroad when it happened. Others said there were drugs hidden in one of the wheels of the car.

  • @avagrace8893
    @avagrace8893 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Any new uploads 90s preferable thanks

  • @trentcruise6717
    @trentcruise6717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i wonder if they ever looked into the Doggys background, maybe he was the intended Target?

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Have you and your 4 pals got mental health problems.

  • @kass794
    @kass794 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scamming drug dealers 🥴🤦‍♀️🤡

  • @laurastuart3814
    @laurastuart3814 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why did they stop Crimewatch ?

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว

      Rav Wilding demanded his own daytime version so the much loved evening version was benched?

    • @th8257
      @th8257 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's been back on for many years in the mornings. They originally took it off because nobody was watching it any more. The viewing figures went through the floor. The modern version of it is very different to what it was like in the 80s, because society has changed and so has crime. So many of the crimes featured in Crimewatch in the 80s either don't happen these days (such as securicor van raids) or would be solved very quickly these days with no need to make a Crimewatch appeal for witnesses. The modern show focuses on things like online fraud, or old unsolved cases.

    • @grottybt5006
      @grottybt5006 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      They'll have trouble portraying people correctly in reenactments now for ideological reasons. If it does come back in modern Britain it won't be successful and people will constantly complain about what community is being portrayed and how

  • @vivienneandersson6019
    @vivienneandersson6019 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the girl who played the young blonde sex-worker went on to play a similar part in the 1986 film Mona Lisa with Bob Hoskins and Robbie Coltrane.

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว

      All dead now so.....

    • @owainmeurig
      @owainmeurig 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought I recognised her.

  • @christinematthews330
    @christinematthews330 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Did any of these murders get solved?

    • @treasurehunteruk9718
      @treasurehunteruk9718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      If you Google the names, you can find if there is any updated news.

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      10 unsolved murders?

    • @treasurehunteruk9718
      @treasurehunteruk9718 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CARLIN4737 The further away it gets, it must get harder. A lot of the perpetrators must be dead by now. This is almost forty years.

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      All dog related murders are unsolved?

  • @ThePrivateDick
    @ThePrivateDick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    57:12 😂😂😂

    • @clownnworldorder
      @clownnworldorder 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @johnrollins8346
    @johnrollins8346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    59:21 lol ha ha

  • @pauliether.c.guy.3349
    @pauliether.c.guy.3349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first guy they talk about the one who was murdered on the woods sold a little weed on the side nothing to get all excited about. Crime watch calls him a drug dealer lol if that’s what England called drug dealer back then I would of hated to see what they called someone who sold harder stuff such as speed crank, heroin, uppers downers, extacy, lcd.

    • @th8257
      @th8257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      ?? These clips are from 1984 /85. Drugs like Ecstacy didn't even start to circulate until 1988, and even then, only in very small amounts to a tiny number or people. These videos are literally from years before a lot of the stuff you're talking about.

    • @Tom-uv7ry
      @Tom-uv7ry 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Divvy you're talking bolloxs

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weed was the main drug in the UK at that time 84/85. Crack and even Cocaine didnt really hit the streets for the masses till the late 80s and Heroin was still looked down on and most dealers wouldnt touch it. Weed was the majority drug of choice in the early 80s in England anyway.

    • @clioflano421
      @clioflano421 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      *LSD

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Tom-uv7ry I agree. In London. South London where im from Ecstacy was available by the boat load aswell as Heroin and as much coke as you could afford?