The Crimewatch Years Special Edition Another 10 Unsolved Murders 1985 1987

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  • The Crimewatch Years
    Another 10 Unsolved Murders from 1985 to 1987
    Sandy McClelland
    Birmingham Doctor Mystery - Doctor Kay
    Georgina Davis
    Che Keng Fung
    Lorna Hayles
    Josh Gaspa
    Rachel Atherwaite
    Marina Monte
    Eddie Owusu
    Daniel Morgan
    Thank you to Redcard74 for uploading the original content
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  • @hlat9318
    @hlat9318 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love the 80s crime watches so gritty and dark with the soft lens of the camera love it

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you enjoy the reconstructions search the railway killers special it shows you a lot of footage of a mid 80s London its creepy and chilling.

    • @hlat9318
      @hlat9318 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BlytheWorld1972 ive seen it love the 80s ones and the 80s movies in general i was brought up in the best decade 👍👍👍

    • @sdeee3842
      @sdeee3842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don’t enjoy the pain for those left behind and whether the killers have been caught. Rest in peace and condolences to family and friends 🕊🕊

  • @mabeluk6272
    @mabeluk6272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    OMG. When I was 15 I stayed with my brother upstairs from her practice and cleaned the rooms for her. My brother told me years later that she was selling prescriptions. Just a thought but my brother would have known (if you know what I mean )he told me about her murder and have never forgotten. Shocked to see a programme about it.

    • @mabeluk6272
      @mabeluk6272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hope that helps can't tell you anything else other than she had a lot of very shady men waiting for her in my brothers flat but never saw anything. He did tell me she was beheaded?

    • @user-tb7qz7id6t
      @user-tb7qz7id6t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      who are you two on about?@@mabeluk6272

    • @JoeRogansForehead
      @JoeRogansForehead หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mabeluk6272your denying justice to her family by not saying anything . I hope you know that. Pathetic

    • @mabeluk6272
      @mabeluk6272 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JoeRogansForeheadI did report it

    • @ckcapone2269
      @ckcapone2269 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@mabeluk6272fair dues is fair dues my ol' mucka

  • @CoraJean19
    @CoraJean19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I live in the American Midwest. Watching this series I’ve found England has a distinct sound to it: the sound of hard-soled shoes scurrying along wet gravel.

    • @janeeden919
      @janeeden919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂

    • @gordoncampbell100
      @gordoncampbell100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We dont`t fuck our sisters thankfully in the UK ,

  • @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441
    @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I watch old school crime watch religiously I think it's a great show 😁

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its just CW.

    • @19thnervousbreakdown80
      @19thnervousbreakdown80 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well now! We can't all be super cool and extra smart can we?

    • @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441
      @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CARLIN4737 and its my opinion so your point is?

    • @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441
      @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@19thnervousbreakdown80 in regards to what exactly? Context babes 😘

    • @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441
      @bohdiiotzaranohealanijaiya7441 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@19thnervousbreakdown80 Do go ahead because your comment sounds less than smart but hey ho educate me If you assume you're oh so smart I'm all ears 👂 😉

  • @johnniethepom7545
    @johnniethepom7545 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    If Gaspa's key was stolen , they wouldn't need to have a copy cut ! More likely they had temporary access to the key and therefore knew him very well .

    • @user-tb7qz7id6t
      @user-tb7qz7id6t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      business partner or jealous husband/boyfriend of one of the women he was knocking off. greed or jealously seems to be the motive here.

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Apparently, he was murdered over gambling debts, according to a Google search...

  • @daviddrysdale2746
    @daviddrysdale2746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great work Retro 🙌🏾👌🏾

  • @lyndaburn6428
    @lyndaburn6428 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks so much.

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    its so sad people are killed and then no one is ever prosecuted sad ..

    • @IanP1963
      @IanP1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Awful left behind also !!!

    • @Maz-zb9uf
      @Maz-zb9uf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It scary to know murders walk among us

    • @IanP1963
      @IanP1963 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Maz-zb9uf murders or murderers ?

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว

      yawn

    • @ckcapone2269
      @ckcapone2269 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Some don't get caught because it's not a shame they were killed but people keep yapping don't they lad...

  • @Chloe-vi5mb
    @Chloe-vi5mb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Lorna hayles story was just so sad poor woman

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed, something very strange about this case, and I do believe it's got something to do with those last 2 couples who came to her party late, were they ever found and interviewed, it's believed she was sexually assaulted, and then stabbed in the neck, whoever did so, was obviously known to her....

  • @th8257
    @th8257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Daniel Morgan case is now the most investigated, unsolved case in British history. A recent panel investigation into the vase concluded that the Metropolitan Police were 'institutionally corrupt'. It's believed that Daniel may have been about the blow the whistle on police corruption and the possible link between some senior police officers, gangsters, and drugs importation. There were also links to the press, which Gordon Brown later described in parliament as 'the criminal media nexus'. Daniel Morgan's business partner, John Reese, was charged with Daniel's murder, but the case didn't reach court. He later ended up working for the News of the World and a number of other publications. The Guardian alleged that Reece was involved in unauthorised access to computer data and bank accounts, corruption of police officers and alleged commissioning of burglaries. Sid Fillery was a local senior policeman, close associate of Reece, and replaced Daniel Morgan as Reece's business partner after the murder. He had also been charged in relation to the murder. Fillery was later convicted for making indecent images of children. That's just a fraction of what was going on. Perhaps it could be summed up by an admission from a barrister representing the Met in court: he said that the murder inquiry had exposed an 'invidious web of corrupt police officers' in south London in the 1980s and 1990s. For anyone interested in further info, the podcast 'Untold: The Daniel Morgan Murders' covers it in depth, and the official panel report can be found on the UK government website.

  • @labazs1964
    @labazs1964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    two good examples of how life can be so sad and troublesome

    • @Stiffd1
      @Stiffd1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which Two? Plus best thing to do ..if you're lonely you can travel. If your numbers up then, well at least you were doing something you liked.

    • @labazs1964
      @labazs1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Stiffd1 Dr K and Lorna both were so desperate for love and friendship despite one being a professional person

  • @glamladwales7056
    @glamladwales7056 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The lorna case is so sad. To be found after all that time

    • @anthonymcken6050
      @anthonymcken6050 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's London for you back then and still the same today. You can live in London for years and never know your neighbour or speak with them. It's getting worse with the influx of migration from Eastern Europe and different groups of people desiring to live in their own enclaves.

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Lorna Hayles such a shame she just wanted friends :( and so lonely

    • @joshuaedwards8907
      @joshuaedwards8907 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yet not one of those people at the party, nor her friends ever came forwards to give any information, I find that rather strange and disturbing, seems she was just a harmless soul, who wanted to be happy, and someone denied her of that, it also doesn't mention much about her family either

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@joshuaedwards8907 so sad may she rest in peace

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@BlytheWorld1972 the police need to reopen this case, and look a lot deeper into the 4 friends who arrived late to her party, I believe the answer could lie with them....

    • @TheBlackcular
      @TheBlackcular 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't the police find any dna very strange? 🤔

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 ปีที่แล้ว

      You could have been pen pals?

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    it made me sad that Lorna had a party and no one showed up :(

    • @ClipperMaidOfTheSeas
      @ClipperMaidOfTheSeas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean it was a cleaning product party

    • @joannehowe7513
      @joannehowe7513 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      She looked a lovely woman.

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@joannehowe7513 yes so kind and really wanted friends i would have loved to have been friends with her such a shame .

    • @BlytheWorld1972
      @BlytheWorld1972 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ClipperMaidOfTheSeas i know but still she just wanted a life people over such a shame .. poor soul ..

    • @TheBlackcular
      @TheBlackcular 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@BlytheWorld1972 Definitely, it's a cruel world we live in that takes no prisoners!

  • @BlytheWorld1972
    @BlytheWorld1972 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Updated information on Lorna Found dead in her Clapham flat on 29 August 1986 after flies were seen at the window of the flat at Tasman Road where she lived alone.
    She had been lying there for nearly a month before being discovered by which time she had badly decomposed and infested with insects. She had died from stab wounds to the neck having been stabbed to death with a carving fork. The fork had been forcefully driven down into her neck and it was thought that there had been a sexual motive behind her murder.
    She had last been seen a month before she was found. It was thought that she died on 1 August 1987.
    The police broke her door in on 29 August 1987 after neighbours became worried after not seeing her for some time and noticing a swarm of blow flys at her window.
    She was found dead in her bedroom dressed only in her underclothes.
    She had two puncture wounds to the front of her neck 0.5 inches wide and 1 inch apart. She also had 2 long cuts in her right palm that were probably caused whilst she tried to defend herself.
    A mans was charged with her murder after his fingerprints were found in her flat but he was released when the case against him was dropped due to insufficient evidence.
    Lorna Hayles, from Jamaica had been a print worker and a bar main but was unemployed. She also had a 12 year old son.

  • @starchild3287
    @starchild3287 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I feel so sorry for Eddie’s wife

  • @JC-ss7xy
    @JC-ss7xy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Rachel Applethwaite was murdered by a Mexican Diplomat. He received diplomatic immunity and went back to Mexico.

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Go loco homes.

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wonder if he murdered that other prostitute that died 24 hours earlier, Marina Monte, who was featured in the same report as well?.....

    • @ckcapone2269
      @ckcapone2269 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@CARLIN4737ur shit stinks!

  • @McIntyreBible
    @McIntyreBible ปีที่แล้ว +4

    25:46, this is what always amuses me about English culture: the employer goes to check the employee if they're absent from work for one day. For one day they get concerned?!

    • @MUFC1933
      @MUFC1933 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Never ever ever happens I assure you! Unless it’s so out of the ordinary of course and don’t forget there were no mobiles or internet back then.

    • @user-tb7qz7id6t
      @user-tb7qz7id6t 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      nowadays you could be lying dead at your desk and they would only be concerned that you haven't logged off your PC because they want to do a system update..!

    • @McIntyreBible
      @McIntyreBible 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@user-tb7qz7id6t that's for sure!

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they have not called in to say where they are, then that's just normal isn't it. Clearly, something is wrong if they haven't been in touch.

  • @pietrorusso9996
    @pietrorusso9996 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did anyone else find the actress playing the murdered Polish doctor, creepy-looking?

  • @3littlemaids1
    @3littlemaids1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd never go visiting at 10.45 at night

  • @murkydepths181
    @murkydepths181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did they know the doctor had that axe in her kitchen??

    • @markdavidson9100
      @markdavidson9100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Good point if it’d been taken away...unless there were marks on her body

    • @mabeluk6272
      @mabeluk6272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Most definitely drug related crime that's what I heard

    • @JC-ss7xy
      @JC-ss7xy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mabeluk6272 it was rumoured she frequented and socialised with some right pondlife. I'd edge my bets and say it was one of them.

    • @tashachaney8617
      @tashachaney8617 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How'd they know it was Sainsburys champagne if the bottle was taken?

    • @privatelyprivate3285
      @privatelyprivate3285 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tashachaney8617they left the bottle’s foil and cork wire behind.

  • @msgrime1981
    @msgrime1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Small detail, but the guitar behind Lorna, when she's wearing the gold dress, is left handed. Could that be revealing? Left handers tend to be a significant minority musically

    • @katewolfspirit6722
      @katewolfspirit6722 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good catch!

    • @markczarny7088
      @markczarny7088 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Paul McCartney he ws taking drugs also

    • @katewolfspirit6722
      @katewolfspirit6722 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markczarny7088 Everybody and his dog were during in the 70s 😄

    • @markczarny7088
      @markczarny7088 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@katewolfspirit6722 I love Kate wolf often watch her on TH-cam she's unknown in the UK

    • @markczarny7088
      @markczarny7088 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@katewolfspirit6722 I told the police Tony Curtis was the Boston strangler also

  • @Nixter1974007
    @Nixter1974007 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor old Jean 😒

  • @kaideuerden8506
    @kaideuerden8506 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine being boyed off so someone could get their hair re-permed lol no one needs a perm in the first place

  • @hatednyc
    @hatednyc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Doctor said she lived with a friend until an unfortunate accident where she lost that friend to fire. Perhaps it’s related to her own demise as she was set on fire?

    • @joebroughton2334
      @joebroughton2334 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would have thought so too. Too much of a coincidence. However, they didn't seem to find a connection. I find it strange that they never explained properly whether the visitor due in the evening was likely to be the murderer arriving earlier (and if not, whether the friend still arrived later). It's all very strange. It looks like whoever did this managed to leave without being seen and covered their tracks.

  • @kevintraynor4508
    @kevintraynor4508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it just me or was there more food stocks in Asda back in the day . Now when you go Asda there is hardly much stock in

  • @fraser_mr2009
    @fraser_mr2009 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That Daniel Morgan fella was playing with fire. That case will never be solved.

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The case is massive now

    • @Maz-zb9uf
      @Maz-zb9uf 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes trusting and working with his work partner

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think they gave a very firm idea about what happened, who did it and why.

  • @mazfitnessjounery2023
    @mazfitnessjounery2023 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its funny how people say the good old days

    • @johnniethepom7545
      @johnniethepom7545 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The good old days , we had no technology , we weren't being watched 24/7 and we had freedom of speak and expression . Although most of had less in the way of material possessions , life was somehow simpler and less complicated . Violent crime was much rarer then than now .

    • @Maz-zb9uf
      @Maz-zb9uf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​​@@johnniethepom7545 the good days child abduction, young mothers force into homes and they children put into care homes where were they abused/ murdered , priest abusing young boys/ girls , pedophiles were rife with the entertainment industry, armed robbery, thousands of unsolved murders, racial attacks etc

    • @Maz-zb9uf
      @Maz-zb9uf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@johnniethepom7545 no technology but plenty of unsloved murders, robberies, rape child abuse, etc crime was higher back then than now because you commit a crime and get away with it . It's funny how all the entertainment back then is now being exposed to child abuse

    • @joshuaedwards4536
      @joshuaedwards4536 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@johnniethepom7545 very true in some aspects, but crime was much harder to solve back then, unlike today, with advanced DNA technology, and the use of CCTV, I don't particularly like being watched every minute of the day, but as long as I'm not breaking the law, I've nothing to worry about

  • @TProfileG
    @TProfileG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dr K smoked like a chimney.

    • @TProfileG
      @TProfileG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wrote that before I knew someone set her alight. I feel psychic

    • @mabeluk6272
      @mabeluk6272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not just tobacco

    • @katewolfspirit6722
      @katewolfspirit6722 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TProfileG Oh dear..that's awful. Poor lady. But I did chuckle at your comment. I feel guilty now....

  • @sdeee3842
    @sdeee3842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    34:40 so cruel!

  • @19thnervousbreakdown80
    @19thnervousbreakdown80 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is it any wonder crimes don't get solved in England any more? You need coppers like the ones in the first segment to have a chance. A few bad situations or outcomes and you decided you knew best and could be policed better by the force you have today. How'd that work out for you? I don't really care for police but I prefer them to criminals. I guess you can be confident today that nobody will say anything that hurts your feelings. I'd rather be confident my sons and daughters will be safe but you can't have it all. I suspect you ain't seen nothing yet. Give it a couple more decades.

  • @natgem1094
    @natgem1094 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Poor Chinese man 😢

  • @dominewimbury2039
    @dominewimbury2039 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That woman at the end of the video in the Daniel Morgan case looks slightly like Suzy Lamplugh to me. Can't be her though cos she was killed the year before

    • @th8257
      @th8257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      a popular look in 1986 / 87

  • @sdeee3842
    @sdeee3842 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    18:28 wonder how much it cost then

    • @CARLIN4737
      @CARLIN4737 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Half a three penny bit.

  • @gayham
    @gayham 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    10.44 'homosexual acitvitity and those that involve themselves in such activities' HA gotta love 1984.

    • @privatelyprivate3285
      @privatelyprivate3285 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pfft. Look at the comment still calling it “right pond scum” 40 years on 😖

  • @kevintraynor4508
    @kevintraynor4508 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Involved in some homosexuality. That detective has lived a sheltered life

  • @gordoncampbell100
    @gordoncampbell100 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everything about Leeds in the 1980`s looks fair game for Harry Enfield to rip the piss out of EVERYTHING .