With the axles removed what will hold the hub into the bearing? The bearing could collapse and the wheel will go flying. I wouldn't tow it without the axles. Be safe and take care buddy
Oh man...I didn't think about that. I guess I can remove the spline from the axle and slide it back in with the axle nut. That should hold it together. Good catch! Thank you! =) That good have been bad.
@@CTmoog I've been a subscriber for a long time wouldn't want to see any accidents. You have progressed so much with your skills you should be proud 👍👍
Without the axles (and the axle nut) there is no preload on the bearing. If you tow a car with no preload on the bearings, the bearings are destroyed in minutes.
IIRC the elephant symbol means they are oversized bearings. So that motor probably has been align-bored at some point in the past. The "splash guard" is called a windage tray.
Remembering the flood of muck/water/oil running down the drive from a few videos ago i can understand why you'd wait to pressure wash until you got it out to the farm :) love your gumption and your can-do attitude! Ive been hunting for a 914 that was doable and so right now I'm still living vicariously through you!
HI CT, well done with the obduction of the engine case, She looks bad but is doable. However, a long-term restoration expression of the rotor isn´t what I would call it it`s named the brake disc. good luck with the further restoration.Greetings Hubertus
Man that motor looks pretty clean inside for having water! That looks like is going to be a long and fun project! Nicely done on that tear down! A lot easier than other tear downs you’ve done! Great job! Looking forward to seeing more updates on this one!👌😎👍
On the symbols I know the first 2. The first is KS for Kolben Schmidt bearings. And the 2. is the old style VW symbol from 60’s/70’s if I Romberg it correctly. All this takes me back 35 years when I used to drive and worked on air cooled VW’s. Thanks for making this series. Robert
I was hoping you were going to try tightening up lug nuts on the rotor to release the pressure on the little screw, and see if that trick actually works. glad you finally prevailed.
Crank is stock oiling journals are all like that I believe even VW Bug Bus etc... , you want to put a forged crank, rods in there, and take that engine to 2.3L lol ....
Just separated my 1965 40hp engine and looks stock inside and in good shape which is surprising for that old. Will clean it up and inspect it better. Definitely will need to be line bored. The thrust bearing doesn't move at all. The worst thing I have found is a hole through the #1 piston. I think that was cause by a ring breaking. What's weird is didn't see damage to the cylinder?
Actually the velocity joints have roll pins at the attach flanges. when you remove the bolts and rotate the axles to a certain position, you can just lever them out and there is no need to remove the hub. I used to remove these as routine maintenance at high speed when I was a Porsche Mechanic because you only got paid per flat rate. The Allen bolts need to be torqued by hand during installation. Since this car is old and rusty I recommend removing the entire trailing arm so you can inspect all of it and rebush the trailing arm. You need an impact driver for the rotor hat screws or a real torch, not that wimpy gas bottle.
Hello mate from England again. Ohhh CT I love you man, you make me smile. You're one of a dying breed of men, whom, I think, still enjoy attacking jobs like this for fun, with less knowledge than enthusiasm (I mean that with great respect!) It's great for us to watch. Only fellas like you and me would say, when trying to unscrew something, "I think we need a bigger chisel". 😂😂 Stick at it mate, we're right there with you. And hey!! How's the bug??????
The cam is shot for sure.. looks like heat had a role to play.. the crank may be able to be reground.. the cross-drill oiling are std for Porsche 1.7 and up.
loving this CT! your block is fine, a good cleanup and it will be fine. i've seen and had worse which has come up great, the scoring on the front main worries me a bit but an undersize grind might be in order there. a good way to check mains and big ends it to run your fingernail across the journal and if you feel indents you know that undersize will be the go (it will have to be ground down to get rid of the scoring basically). your cam is dead thats a throwaway. the cam gear looked very dry - dont know if thats coz you have been cleaning i would have expected? also when you check bearings you really want to look at the surface where the bearing faces the piston big end or the main ; thats your primary wear point. the outside of them is not really a wear indicator per se. ie: if you looked at your cam bearings they were almost reusable - looked like no wear at all.
Good video, but i always wonder why mechanics never pressure wash the engine before disassembly. Now you have deal with all the dirt and grease while the inner parts are exposed. Takes only a 10 min hot wash, saves lots of cleaning afterward!
VW porshe audi skoda all use the same parts that's why you have found a vw symbol in there. Keep these videos coming. What's going on with the beetle? 😊😊
Thanks Tim! Yes, Darrin can fix anything! I'll jump back on the bug soon. Not much left to do really considering it's a patina ride. The 914 will be tits!
Ct you should number all your vlogs in order you recorded them if you jump about we’ll jump with you we don’t mind You do a fascinating blog please continue
I have family in boca rotan. There is a place in west palm beach it used to be owned by Darel Adam's amazing place took up a compleat city block. There dealer lot was wow! I was looking to get a vw411. This was in 1990 or so.
I haven't watched the video yet, I'm commenting before watching because I know that creators don't get notifications on their older videos a lot and I just wanted to let you know what's been going on with me, since you showed some concern for me. I lost my job in Dec. and haven't been able to find another one which has undone all the work I'd done over the last several years to pull out of depression, put me right back to square one emotionally/mentally and I just gave up on a lot of things, gained back all the weight I'd lost, stopped taking care of myself. I am not sure what I'm going to do, but I will work on getting myself in a better emotional/mental state. I'm going to be catching up on your videos over the next several days or so then start commenting again.
4:30: "Mahle" is right. This is a chief supplier of special cold - forged lightweight pistons, the kind favoured by tuners, as these pistons are reduced in weight, by construction and also thanks to a special aluminium / zinc / magnesium alloy. Thus reduced weight means less mass to be moved and more horsepowers!
Thats not a "Silver Coating" on the cam, its where it's still clean bare metal from normal wear, that "Copper Coating" you refer to is just burnt-on Oil additives from high mileage, but it's not broken thru to some under layer, it's only on the spots where theres LESS wear and pressure, along the base circle of the cam and on the closing ramp side of where the valves were let closed - from deceleration and valve float On those oil ports, they were "Relieved" to open up the groove around them to better spread oil, looks like someone's very bad attempt with a hand die grinder, very sloppy, I'd replace the crank - looks like a spot for cracks to develop to me? In the earlier part of the video, you loosened the Large Regular-screw headed bolt that has the spring and plunger from the oil pump pressure relief valve, I wouldnt whack that like that to the side on an angle when you already OWN a normal manual Impact driver, just make or buy the big, wide regular socket bit for it, I have one I made for removing Sludge-trap plugs on Old Ducati Single Cyl cranks - Much safer!
If you set the car down without the axle in the bearing, the bearings are junk. I made that mistake on the front axles of my Rabbit. I didn’t even roll the car, just put it on the ground without axles in the bearings. Tried to use them and regretted the whole saga. I hope you didn’t put the wheels on & set it down.
I would have thought that the engine would look much worse after having so much water in it. I think the cam and bearings were already worn out before.
Yes, considering it was full of water for about a year it looks pretty good. Yes, the engine was worn out a long time ago. I think of you every-time I reach for the 10 & 15mm =) Thanks again my friend!
What would have been so hard about pressure washing the engine after you got all the shrouds off? Unless you like working in filth. Clean engines are much easier to work on and see damage. Just saying.
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With the axles removed what will hold the hub into the bearing?
The bearing could collapse and the wheel will go flying.
I wouldn't tow it without the axles.
Be safe and take care buddy
Oh man...I didn't think about that. I guess I can remove the spline from the axle and slide it back in with the axle nut. That should hold it together. Good catch! Thank you! =) That good have been bad.
@@CTmoog I've been a subscriber for a long time wouldn't want to see any accidents.
You have progressed so much with your skills you should be proud 👍👍
Without the axles (and the axle nut) there is no preload on the bearing. If you tow a car with no preload on the bearings, the bearings are destroyed in minutes.
Yeah that happened to me. In the driveway. Get some big nuts and bolts to hold it under compression. Then it can be towed, no problem.
IIRC the elephant symbol means they are oversized bearings. So that motor probably has been align-bored at some point in the past. The "splash guard" is called a windage tray.
Good info man! Thank you! =)
Remembering the flood of muck/water/oil running down the drive from a few videos ago i can understand why you'd wait to pressure wash until you got it out to the farm :) love your gumption and your can-do attitude! Ive been hunting for a 914 that was doable and so right now I'm still living vicariously through you!
Yes, I'm trying not to piss off the wife and the neighbors too bad...=) They are still out there. Stay tuned it's about to get serious!
Keep at it CT, we’re with you.
Thanks Stephen! =)
Fine job CT !
The little engine rotisserie is great .
You showed the piston inside. "Mahle" is a german quality brand.
Thanks buddy! =)
use left hand drill bits // use big C clamp on rotor to the floor the hold rotor from spinning .
Good idea! =)
HI CT, well done with the obduction of the engine case, She looks bad but is doable. However, a long-term restoration expression of the rotor isn´t what I would call it it`s named the brake disc. good luck with the further restoration.Greetings Hubertus
Thanks Hubertus! have new brake disc ready to install. 😎😎😎
There is a threaded fitting to put a metric bolt in to jack the rotor off the hub once the screws are off. Original screws should be Phillips head
Man that motor looks pretty clean inside for having water! That looks like is going to be a long and fun project! Nicely done on that tear down! A lot easier than other tear downs you’ve done! Great job! Looking forward to seeing more updates on this one!👌😎👍
Where is the '65??
It's at the farm shop. I'll be working on it next week. Stay tuned!
Just curious 2hen are you getting back to the VW restoration?
soon my friend! stay tuned! =)
Man.,.. That cam is SHOT! Glad to see the rear end didn't win the fight against you. I'm looking forward to seeing the metalwork get underway.
Yes, this one is worn out! Hopefully starting the metal work this week. Thanks Greg!
Very cool CT!
Thanks Phil!
Enjoyed the video. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! 😎😎😎
what happened to the V W bug you were rebuilding
It's still here. We are working it. Stay tuned! =)
On the symbols I know the first 2. The first is KS for Kolben Schmidt bearings. And the 2. is the old style VW symbol from 60’s/70’s if I Romberg it correctly. All this takes me back 35 years when I used to drive and worked on air cooled VW’s. Thanks for making this series.
Robert
Thanks for the info Robert! =)
Oil Pressure Relief Valve (that large screw)
You are correct! =)
The crankshaft bearings are Kolbenschmidt OEM VW. The elephant is on all of them that I have seen; some say it signifies metal-backed bearings.
oh very interesting. Thanks man! =)
I was hoping you were going to try tightening up lug nuts on the rotor to release the pressure on the little screw, and see if that trick actually works. glad you finally prevailed.
Excellent video CT :) also you have lots projects vechiles to work each time and hopefully seeing more soon got planned to !
Crank is stock oiling journals are all like that I believe even VW Bug Bus etc... , you want to put a forged crank, rods in there, and take that engine to 2.3L lol ....
yes, that would be cool! =)
Just separated my 1965 40hp engine and looks stock inside and in good shape which is surprising for that old. Will clean it up and inspect it better. Definitely will need to be line bored. The thrust bearing doesn't move at all. The worst thing I have found is a hole through the #1 piston. I think that was cause by a ring breaking. What's weird is didn't see damage to the cylinder?
Actually you should have pressure washed it before starting the tear down😢
Yes, that would be nice but I don't want that nasty oil all over my driveway.
Saludos de Mexico CT
Thank you my friend! =)
Good video!
Thanks Richard!
Actually the velocity joints have roll pins at the attach flanges. when you remove the bolts and rotate the axles to a certain position, you can just lever them out and there is no need to remove the hub. I used to remove these as routine maintenance at high speed when I was a Porsche Mechanic because you only got paid per flat rate. The Allen bolts need to be torqued by hand during installation. Since this car is old and rusty I recommend removing the entire trailing arm so you can inspect all of it and rebush the trailing arm. You need an impact driver for the rotor hat screws or a real torch, not that wimpy gas bottle.
Hello mate from England again. Ohhh CT I love you man, you make me smile. You're one of a dying breed of men, whom, I think, still enjoy attacking jobs like this for fun, with less knowledge than enthusiasm (I mean that with great respect!) It's great for us to watch. Only fellas like you and me would say, when trying to unscrew something, "I think we need a bigger chisel". 😂😂
Stick at it mate, we're right there with you.
And hey!! How's the bug??????
Great to see yeah CT 👍
Thanks Atom!
do you sill have 1974 ford f250
Hey Roger, yes, I still have the swamp dragon. I need to put it back together.
ok
@@CTmoog
The cam is shot for sure.. looks like heat had a role to play.. the crank may be able to be reground.. the cross-drill oiling are std for Porsche 1.7 and up.
thanks man....that is good info.
2 for 1 💪
Thank you! 😎
loving this CT! your block is fine, a good cleanup and it will be fine. i've seen and had worse which has come up great, the scoring on the front main worries me a bit but an undersize grind might be in order there. a good way to check mains and big ends it to run your fingernail across the journal and if you feel indents you know that undersize will be the go (it will have to be ground down to get rid of the scoring basically). your cam is dead thats a throwaway. the cam gear looked very dry - dont know if thats coz you have been cleaning i would have expected? also when you check bearings you really want to look at the surface where the bearing faces the piston big end or the main ; thats your primary wear point. the outside of them is not really a wear indicator per se. ie: if you looked at your cam bearings they were almost reusable - looked like no wear at all.
Thank you! That is good information.
What headstud extractor do you use ?
MAC tools - SD1039
Good.job. cool car 😄😍
Thanks buddy! =)
Pressure wash the case before you split it.
If I was at the farm the would be ok but it's a bit of a mess in the driveway.
Do you still have rusty?
No, I sold him to Dennis. You can follow him on IG
Can we plz see another vid of the bug plzzzzz
Yes, I will be working on the bug next week. Stay tuned.
Good work man!😎
Thanks buddy! =)
Good video, but i always wonder why mechanics never pressure wash the engine before disassembly. Now you have deal with all the dirt and grease while the inner parts are exposed. Takes only a 10 min hot wash, saves lots of cleaning afterward!
Ct drill screw out
good idea! Thank you! 😎
Parabéns pelo seu conhecimento
Thank you! =)
Why not pressure was before disassembly?
What’s happening with the bug?
Hey buddy, I have some 65 beetle updates coming soon. Stay tuned! =)
@@CTmoog good to hear
💪🏼
Thanks buddy! =)
VW porshe audi skoda all use the same parts that's why you have found a vw symbol in there.
Keep these videos coming. What's going on with the beetle? 😊😊
Thanks buddy! I hope to get back on the 65 next week. Stay tuned!
Awesome CT, darrin will fix that one right up. Do you plan on finishing the bug after you do the metal work on the 914?
Thanks Tim! Yes, Darrin can fix anything! I'll jump back on the bug soon. Not much left to do really considering it's a patina ride. The 914 will be tits!
Mahle makes very good German performance pistons 👍. I am surprised to see them here. May be they do normal parts too.
I think they had a deal with Porsche on these engines.
Mahle were an OEM to VW for pistons and cylinder, bearings, etc too,
Ct you should number all your vlogs in order you recorded them if you jump about we’ll jump with you we don’t mind
You do a fascinating blog please continue
Enjoy your videos! Always hear the aircraft What airport do live by?
Thanks buddy! =) Orlando
Hi do you use your videos to help put it back together? Thumbs Up
yes! =) Thanks buddy! =)
Where is that junkyard @ with the Fastback 1969 Beige you went to. Please
Orlando, Florida
I have family in boca rotan. There is a place in west palm beach it used to be owned by Darel Adam's amazing place took up a compleat city block. There dealer lot was wow! I was looking to get a vw411. This was in 1990 or so.
The screws on the rotors are a pain in the butt, like a fight to the finish!
I’ve dealt with some stubborn motors. But I like to pressure wash.
Yes, that screw was in pretty tight. I like to pressure was as well but didn't want the grease all over my driveway. Thanks Slade! 😎
Ist es nicht besser den Motor vor der Zerlegung mit dem Dampfstrahler zu reinigen ?
I guess if you would like the spray grease all over the yard....=)
DDR put the stub axels in before you tow it ! You will loose a hub and wheel and tire !
What about the Bug?
Little screws will get you all of the time😁
oh man...that one hurt! =) Thanks Atom!
did you name this rust nugget yet? At least it's a 2.0 and not two 914s welded together like the last one :)
It's a rusty nugget for sure! I think I'd rather have the welded together car at this point. This one is going to be a challenge. Thank you! 😎😎😎
I haven't watched the video yet, I'm commenting before watching because I know that creators don't get notifications on their older videos a lot and I just wanted to let you know what's been going on with me, since you showed some concern for me. I lost my job in Dec. and haven't been able to find another one which has undone all the work I'd done over the last several years to pull out of depression, put me right back to square one emotionally/mentally and I just gave up on a lot of things, gained back all the weight I'd lost, stopped taking care of myself. I am not sure what I'm going to do, but I will work on getting myself in a better emotional/mental state. I'm going to be catching up on your videos over the next several days or so then start commenting again.
I'd wash everything down put new bearings in it, polish the crank and keep going.....
it needs, new pistons, cylinders, cam, lifters, cam gear, oil cooler, gasket set, main bearings, cam bearing, seals, etc....and dual carbs.
What high school did you go to CT?
I got kicked out of high school! =)
@@CTmoog I was just wondering because we're the same age and I lived not to far away from you.
Круто!!!
Thank you! 😎😎😎
4:30: "Mahle" is right. This is a chief supplier of special cold - forged lightweight pistons, the kind favoured by tuners, as these pistons are reduced in weight, by construction and also thanks to a special aluminium / zinc / magnesium alloy. Thus reduced weight means less mass to be moved and more horsepowers!
Thanks man! Good to know! =)
Thats not a "Silver Coating" on the cam, its where it's still clean bare metal from normal wear, that "Copper Coating" you refer to is just burnt-on Oil additives from high mileage, but it's not broken thru to some under layer, it's only on the spots where theres LESS wear and pressure, along the base circle of the cam and on the closing ramp side of where the valves were let closed - from deceleration and valve float
On those oil ports, they were "Relieved" to open up the groove around them to better spread oil, looks like someone's very bad attempt with a hand die grinder, very sloppy, I'd replace the crank - looks like a spot for cracks to develop to me?
In the earlier part of the video, you loosened the Large Regular-screw headed bolt that has the spring and plunger from the oil pump pressure relief valve, I wouldnt whack that like that to the side on an angle when you already OWN a normal manual Impact driver, just make or buy the big, wide regular socket bit for it, I have one I made for removing Sludge-trap plugs on Old Ducati Single Cyl cranks - Much safer!
some good tips. Thanks man!
Hey!!! You said you have two 2.0, build one for the 914 and the other throw it in a bug!!!
yes, I thought about doing that! =)
Did your bro kick you out of the workshop?😅
I hope not..lol =) Been busy around the house and beating the summer heat. I'm planning on going out there this week.
If you set the car down without the axle in the bearing, the bearings are junk. I made that mistake on the front axles of my Rabbit. I didn’t even roll the car, just put it on the ground without axles in the bearings. Tried to use them and regretted the whole saga.
I hope you didn’t put the wheels on & set it down.
That is good to know. Thank you. I will be replacing all the bearings on this car. I'm pretty sure they are worn out.
the elephant might mean it's a part from India?
not sure...maybe...?
Dude the dipstick tube is unobtaniam
WHEN you have your first jack fail you will use those jack stands
maybe thats just rust on those cam lobes
no....it's the metal under the coating....they are worn out.
ya should have just pulled the axels and left the stubs in
I am a mechanic like you, I work on all cars. Can I contact you for assistance in traveling for work?
Mahle-männät
Thank you! =)
I'm looking for shop about this cars
Drill the screw out
good idea!
I would have thought that the engine would look much worse after having so much water in it. I think the cam and bearings were already worn out before.
Yes, considering it was full of water for about a year it looks pretty good. Yes, the engine was worn out a long time ago. I think of you every-time I reach for the 10 & 15mm =) Thanks again my friend!
What would have been so hard about pressure washing the engine after you got all the shrouds off? Unless you like working in filth. Clean engines are much easier to work on and see damage. Just saying.
Yes, I kind of do like getting dirty! =)
How can you justify spending all this money and never finish anything