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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 พ.ค. 2023
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So a lot of the feedback I got from my last Tiger video was how do I angle?
Angling is definitely more of an art than a science when it comes to doing it in real-world matches.
Terrain, cover, range, and player skill all play a huge part in deciding how much you can angle and if it will work or not.
This quick guide should give you the basics - but in the real world, practice is what will make you a king of angling and dominating in the Tiger ;)
Let me know what you think and if this was helpful!
Hope you enjoy.
Tankonaut. - เกม
Gaijin after seeing the vid: tiger is too strong lets put it on 6.7
lol XD
@@tankonaut ayo you cant denie it..
knowing gaijin and there treatment of german vehicles they would probably put it a 3.7 and move the jumbo up to 7.3
@@Feniks-the-fox Tiger ii 7.0 with IS-4M 7.7
@@mabast99sdkfz183 that’s arcade
Crew: Sir! He's angling, what should we do?
Commander: Track And Barrel torture him!
Haha. I totally agree that that is a good tactic, however in real battles soooo many people blindly shoot center of mass. Especially when a tiger comes charging around a corner ;)
The opposite of 🐓 and 🏀 torture🗿
@@tankonautMost USA players will be used to actually aiming after the hell that is 3.3 to 3.7. shermans are good, but they do not do anything for you, firepower is good, but you need to aim, armor is fine, but you cannot rely on it, speed is okay, but dont expect to flank and all that shbass. You canno turn your brain off when playing low tier and mid tier USA
@@jaegerpilot5238Fr bro I quit when I got to 4.7 because even with aiming it’s still hard to kill any same br tanks that the Soviet and Germans have
track and barrel torture my beloved🤤
Meanwhile Jumbo mains sniping your barrel from 497493927 kilometers:
Happens to us all ;)
Jumbo mains; eliminating cupolas since '44
Only real tank movie lovers knows that this song is from the T-34 movie
Haha. I could not agree more :)
not too much of a tank lover but i knew bc the t34 movie is just outmatched
I was looking for your comment😂. The scape scene when they take the T34 85?
@@yellowpig6513but also when they fight back after getting shot at the fight in nefedovo and even when Volchok destroyed the rosamunde Panther and T-34-85 cross in the wall 😂
Yeah...
I love this movie
That’s the part when the Germans tried to find them
All fun and games until an SPJ appears and lobs a 150mm HE shell at you
The Swedish meatball launcher emerging from behind a building to lob a subsonic 20-pound brick of trinitrotoluene at the Tiger:
M109G 💀
The Kid named 122mm BR-412D
LOL - he is the battlefield bully!
Gunner : Sir his armor is way too strong
Commander : have you tried his cuppola?
Gunner : Oh
haha, I think under the pressure of a tiger bearing down on them people often panic or instinctively shoot the upper front plate or mantlet. Definitely its the veteran players that go for barrels or cupola - so then it's just down to player skill levels.
Just try tiger E lol
@@Pandope616 Even worse
5.7 tank > 6.7 tank [ ATGM, APDS, HEATFS ]
@@callmeudin5341 ohh I thought the advantages of tiger H is only it's big ass cupola
It works both ways lol, jumbo weakspot is also it's cúpula. Just shoot pzgr. To the cúpula and a well placed shot overpressures the jumbo
You should do some guides on lower tier tanks like 3.3. Love your content!
Thank you sir! I’m glad you enjoy it :) I appreciate the suggestion, there are some really interesting tanks around that Br. Let me have a think
@@tankonaut thank you
T-34 (1940) is a beast, excellent armor and gun
@@tankonaut The only tanks you need to cover at 3.3 are the KV's and maybe a T-34.
Yes yes please 🙏 I am a new player and don’t really know the amour and how the mechanics work in this dreadful game
You know you reached peak performance when you reaction angle. Especially with Medium tanks its crazy effective to anticipate Hits and angle accordingly while he shoots. Very important for the Panther turret as its Mantled is a weak spot with enough armor to stop rounds if hit on an angle
100%
If you slap an 100mm+ shell between the hull and tracks you have an beautiful show of fireworks
I never shoot at a tiger’s mantlet because it’s extremely thick and will almost always stop an is-2’s shell for some reason. Also if you see a tiger angling, either hit the lower part of the hull side (right above the roadwheels and tracks), in the cupola or the barrel. You can also shoot through the sprocket (the wheel that is powered by the transmission to make the track move) as right behind it is where the armor will be angled the least, but like shooting the lower hull side it’s a high risk high reward shot
Tiger mantlet is judged to be a space armor, but can kill him shooting machine gun spot.
Funnily enough I can get through the Tigers Mantlet with 76MM M62 Shells
@@ManThatsMental Yeah there’s a small rectangle on the right side I believe (when facing it) that is less thick than the rest of the mantlet, but it’s really risky so I wouldn’t shoot there unless you’re like a T34 (heavy tank) in a downtier.
@@maplearrow1842 jumbo is a heavy tank that can take Tiger rounds, I’ve been in battles where such has happened, but I would retaliate by hitting that mantlet and killing their loader gunner and commander.
Dude I was a menace in the tiger I was always angled I would drive up a straight road diagonally so I was always angled no one could kill me
Nice - Tiger's are awesome ;)
@@tankonaut can u do a video on how to use the aircraft control for atgms for ps4 plz I’m having trouble with my su 39
KV 220: 😂
@@user-vw9xn2ig8x you gave me flashbacks don’t do that
The tiger about to be mad after I pull up
lol ok :)
@@tankonaut you a Chad
lol ok ;)
@@tankonaut 🍷🗿
You're one of the best war thunder guides on TH-cam
Thanks bud! I'm glad you liked it - I appreciate the feedback :)
* Shermen firefly screams*
lol
For the 76 jumbo users: shoot the commander hatch, but make sure that its the taller one, like the one in the video
Yep that's a good weakspot
It also works with 75 jumbo, the shell goes into the cupola at 800+ meters. @@tankonaut
Tiger H1 is so sad just because of the cupola sadly. Even if you move, its an easy target for the jumbo at close range.
I don't disagree that its a big weakspot, but I find people often panic fire at my mantlet or hull. Obviously I run into more experienced players who know exactly where to shoot, but that is just skill vs skill
@@tankonaut i agree!
First rule of Tiger club: Don’t be at close range
@@kimjanek646 you wont be able to cap points then.
@@ultravioletsusYoure not realy supposed to cap a contested cap with a tiger. Play it like a heavy Tank destroyer even tho it got a turret
*angles tiger*
The jumbo crew: nice commander copula you got there
lol - nice mg port ;)
When it comes to turret angling I found out the hard way that it is ESSENTIAL for the Tiger II because most tanks I encounter can pin the front turret armour.
Yes, it really helps! Angling is life ;)
The commander cupola:
Yep, a weakspot. That’s why you gotta keep moving and wiggling. Make that a harder target
Very underrated content.
Thanks bud! Appreciate your feedback.
@@tankonaut Subcribed btw. I don't really play warthunder because I only have a laptop, don't have enough space for it. Hope I can play it one day and follow these tips. Good day sir.
Be great to have you on board sir! Appreciate the sub :)
Yeah but when you angle against the 76 like this you most likely will get shot through this lower part between the hull and track on the side. Whenever i play the 76mm i shoot it there and it's way easier to do so since most shermans have stabilizers but yeah this might increase the chance on long range or smth
I don't disagree with this, but you could say that about a lot of tanks. However, I maybe die to these shots 1 out of 100 times. Most people instinctively shoot center of mass or turret.
the massive cupola with absolutely no armor:
at close range hitting the cupola isn't too hard IF the tiger is inexperienced. at longer ranges its not an easy shot
your entire tutorial after jumbo dumbell shoots the barrel: oh no our table it's broken
Yes shooting barrels and cupolas can disable the tiger - but these are generally close range tactics and are harder if the tiger is moving / wiggling between shots. It’s still always worth angling as a lot of people panic shoot the hull :)
This is why we shoot barrel first then tracks, and finish off the tiger with a flanking shot.
Always a good method
@@tankonaut it is. But for some reason, russian barrels never take damage.
I head that barrels have different armor values and that russian barrels have the most armor - I don't know if it's true or speculation
Ur gay
also helpful tip. dont carry a full tank of ammo. Like who even uses 81 rounds before dying. Having that much makes you a bigger stick of dynamite if you get ammo racked
Great tip!
I only take 20-30 shells with me. I am dead before they get used up anyways and like you said, less chance of ammo rack
One of the best things I ever did was only carrying 20/30 shells, before that I was always maxed out and would brew up with any kind of pen
The Soundtrack from T-34 fits great!
haha thanks :)
Cupola of the Tiger H1 aside, this basically makes Tiger Es a real threat
Yep I think the BR difference is what makes up for the cupola. Both are great tanks.
Where is the cupola?
@@aperson7266 It's literally on top of the turret. On the H1, it's basically the only thing you see on top of the turret and it sticks out quite a bit
As a jumbo player myself, I concur. The best way to play a tiger is just angle and wait for the opponent to reload.
Tiger vs jumbo battles are super fun IMHO :)
Commander: Did everybody forgot about me? Life is hard 😔
lol. Poor commander first to die too often ;)
Great content bro, keep it up.
A few extra tips I think a lot of tiger players will find useful:
1. Pzgr. Is better than Pzgr. 39, since it can overpressure it's much more useful. Difference in pen only starts to matter at >1k meters really.
2. Pretty obvious at this point but never take full ammo. 28 will do, 44 at most if you really need the extra ammo.
3. The Tiger E is much better than then H1. Faster, stronger mantlet, and no cupola weakspot. Plus you get rid of those grenade launcher things they put on your hull corners, makes the H1 unplayable for me. I've gotten at least 5 nukes with the E in full uptiers, mostly thanks to the Pzgr.
4. Always angle behind cover when facing russians, a good player will target your 60mm lower side armor with their pseudo-apfsds round. They're pretty harmless at range though, unless it's an IS-2 or 100mm.
Thank you boss!
Also, these are great tips! Really solid.
Every time a tiger does this to me I just aim for the lower hull, goes through every time
That's definitely a weakspot, yet I can't remember last time i was shot there?!
I dont get why people complain so much about the tiger. It's an unstoppable killing machine if you understand how to angle.
I think that its probably because it needs more micro-managing to be strong than other similar tanks - e.g. jumbo. I assume a lot of new players go for the Tiger, because I often see them sitting straight with no attempt at improving their armor angle, even when on reload. Just my experience.
They also forget about the one weak point sticking out the top of the turret.
The cupola is a big weakspot, so yes - you have to wiggle, move and do everything you can to stop enemies getting a clear shot on it
ST A1: you got no long life (showing HEATFS) 😎
That's a stronk tank! :)
no wonder i keep dying to 76 jumbos even if im angled
They are super dangerous so yes, movement, angling and going for that mg port, side skirt,, or barrel shot is the key.
No Angle: 2 kills
With Angle: 4-12 kills
haha, yes that feels about right ;)
Nah bro, same 2 kills, the first guy who u killed came in a plane
Tiger with the funny cupola never scared me. but the one without is the scary one 💀
Background Music from T34 is top👺💯
Haha, well spotted! Such a great sound track :)
Would not behoove you to aim down as well for some added mantlet angling?
tbh I had never really tried that, I mostly wiggle ;) But, yes I imagine it would work pretty well!
Any veteran will just blast that coupala of yours 😁
But that's the secret - most people aren't veterans ;)
Wait till people learn about the weak lower side armor
@@Parkourboy86 ssssshhhhhhh
Tiger E
@@Jpz-4-5 uptiers get ya against sabots xD
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
German mains when they realize that angling means no-dying:
Angling is life! ;)
The jumbo is OP until you put a 500Kg bomb on its roof and send it and its crew to Jerusalem
lol
Thanked for the tips!❤
Happy to help!
Commander hatch & barrel : am i a jokes to you?
5.3 sec reload : 🤤
CA Lorraine with the 100mm gun that has 273mm pen 😂
that's a scary machine!
When monsters face off each other
haha right?!
Me asf: Aim at the cupola
Me asf: adds bush
THANKS BRO I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS THANK YOU SO MUCHH
Glad I could help - this isn't a comprehensive guide - it just gives you a basic approach. When you can hide your sides with cover, you can over angle the front to tank even bigger rounds :)
Tiger H1 Cupola: please dont notice me, please dont notice me, please dont notice me!!!!
lol - bushes exist ;)
@@tankonaut true, but most tigers players that i see dont use bushes =w=
The hatch in question
I mean Tiger players can bush the turret if they wanted to ;)
As some random feller who's spent too long being a tanker in WT, don't angle your turret in the Tiger 1 or 2, you can get away with maybe 20° in a left or right but it's better just to keep gun on target. Try to wiggle the gun around to prevent your barrel from being destroyed.
Angling is also quite iffy, as the armor behind your tracks is considerably thinner it's likely that if you come across an experienced tanker they will be able to take you out that way, too.
Simple way to avoid even needing the skills, be very up close and personal on urban maps, snipe with a good 40° angle on your hull on non urban maps. Avoid IS-2's, 152 anythings, and if neither of those are an issue beware 17 pounders. They hurt.
You desereve a subscription for explaining things so good even in text
Thank you sir! Appreciate the sub!
Wait until volume metric kicks in
I mean the Tiger actually benefitted from volumetric right? That drivers hatch / mg port and the side skirts are like unbreakable! ;)
U have less complication with a panther, just wigle turret if u wiff a shot and be scared of the is2
I agree the Panther is easier to play in many ways. However, I find the Tiger to actually be more versatile - maybe its just me, I am a heavy tank lover :)
Lol until he turns your commander to paste
lol
Lower sides will kill at that angle
Yes you are right, but anything more or less and it can pen your upper hull. The lower side shot is more risky and takes more time to aim - and most people shoot upper hull / center of mass. also, in country terrain your lower hull is often covered.
When I get my hands on this tank I’m going to actually have fun
Hey there! Not to dampen your enthusiasm but I thought EXACTLY the same thing when I was grinding to the Tiger. The Tiger is my favorite tank but grinding really hard for it and hoping that is when you will "have fun" is gonna be a disappointment for you. Not that the tank is bad - its super fun, but the game doesnt really change that much as you go up in BRs - there are SO many fun vehicles before you get to the tiger and I would recommend playing as many of them as you can and enjoying the journey to the tiger :) Too many people rush ( thats what I did! ) and then burn out or aren't ready to play at a higher BR. Take your time and enjoy :)
When I use my tiger.. I sometimes angle in cover because angling too much can kill you.. Shermans that have 75 guns and t34 85s can kill you above the side of the hull tracks. That is why I wiggle or if there is a building near me.. I only show up my front when angling.
I totally agree. That is a great tip. Using cover to hide your sides can let you over-angle the front to tank some crazy rounds. Great comment! :)
@@tankonaut Thanks and you're welcome
that is why you do not shoot the front or sides you shoot just above the tracks under the sideskirts
Definitely a weakspot but it takes a little time to aim accurately for it. That’s why I like to play aggressively in the Tiger. Pressuring people into making bad shots can really transform the armor protection.
Lower side plate: Hello
Shoot lower side of hull on tiger, very effective counter to this angle
Yes that is a big weakspot.
Lower side hull can be penetrated when angling
If you have a tiger and can't kill a Sherman by just looking at it, you're bad at the game. These things one shot me every time
Yes sir - Jumbos need careful aim and play but regular shermans should be dog food ;)
Very nice Video 👍
Thank you 👍
I did this and got 8 kills in a single life with my Tiger H1. I wasn't really sure if I was doing it right because I always got penned while angling but now shells bounce off left and right
Nice work sir! Glad it helped :)
instructions unclear -
i angled my tiger (p) and i got ammoracked
Haha. You can absolutely angle the tiger (p) turret a little bit and it gives some protection - particularly against 90mm and down
Nice "fury" music
perfect song 👿
:)
Finally grat tutorial. I already touch 1 year play this game, but never understand how to angling properly when use german tank
Happy to help :)
This reminds me of when I killed a Tiger H1 in a T-34-76 (1942) because I shot through his cupola
Yep, cupola shot is a weakspot
This is what I do when my wife gets mad and starts taking shots at me. Just angle a little and let her comments bounce right off.
haha!
IS-2 never penetrates Tiger’s turret from the front.
Yes, the Tiger mantlet is pretty trolly and can bounce a lot of strong rounds :)
Gun port and capula is where I aim I love sniping gun ports it’s fun
Cupola is a better shot than the mg port IMHO - that can be a volumetric hell ;)
@@tankonaut yeah I agree I do that when I user bigger shells
Tiger plays going on to not do that and completely ignoring the video
haha
Now if that Jumbo actually had some experience, it would just fire at the cupola or at the turret and one shot the Tiger.
But what if the Tiger has experience? ;)
@tankonaut The jumbo will say "oh shit here we go again"
@@PaulBauer-de1ex lol
Lol commander finna get a 76mm shell from the top where he gets in lol
"IF" you shoot first! ;)
76mm aphe to the cupola:🗿
* adds bushes * ;)
@@tankonaut *american main Instinctively shoots at cupola because of German bias* 💀
Commander cupola:👋
That's why you wiggle and keep moving ;)
me when I slightly off angle the tiger: "well, I'm dead"
lol - we've all felt that :)
Dont forget about over angling the side skirts as they reveal the weaker lower side hull.
Yes, I agree - the Tiger gets put in a difficult situation - any less of an angle and the 76mm can pen your upper hull side/front. My best advice is to try and predict where you will be shot and angle for that shot. This allows you to over/under angle to maximize your survival chances.
the cupola looking quite nice rn
pov:he shoots the turet
we can also suggest you wiggle the rotating turrent left and right and wiggle the tank forward and backward to avoid having a barrel blown off
100% This
@@tankonaut I fix my grammar slightly
@@tankonaut wait why did I do this I'm typically playing the USA Or Israeli I just shot myself in the foot
@@tankonautand I'll reason why you should always be moving your tigers Hall and her is to stop here at cupola for being hit in the H model at least M3 Stuart can shoot through the tigers drivers viewport on models of the tiger in game looking for a while so codd 75s to. But the snail has a way of ruining the fun things if you shoot underneath the first side skirt and the corner of the tigers altogether chance of going through the armor right above running gear and the topside skiet
Yes I agree - i say in the video to always keep moving between shots. Movement can really make a difference and even allow some shots to impact on volumetric areas. A stationary / un-angled tiger is a dead tiger ;)
Black Prince: aww how cute, you think that'll save you *rips an apds thru half of ur crew*
The battle is generally over before the black prince gets to the front line ;)
Tiger: (encountering Jumbo) Panik
Tiger: (angles) calm
Jumbo: (Aims at Cupola)
Tiger: (crew knockout) panik
Lol
Meanwhile the KV watching you as you tunnelvision the Jumbo and fail to watch your flanks: LOOKS LIKE TIGER IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS
lol
Just angle the jumbo you chillin
:)
Newbies playing WT: "face forward!!"
Haha. Sad but true.
I allwais angle tiger at perfect degree, shoot then angle the turet. Im basicaly indestructible
Nice!
I'm grinding Tiger so thanks
Yw!
WHAM! cupola shot.
I mean yes, cupola is a weakspot but I rarely die to it ( I do have max crew vitality ) but in real matches when a Tiger is bearing down on them only veterans reliably shoot the cupola. Most people panic fire at the front plate :)
Smart 76 jumbo player: *shoots capula, turret cheek and barrel* 💀
yeah those are good tactics and I like the 76mm jumbo ;) - that's why I say keep moving - tbh I'm not really scared of the american 76mm in a Tiger as long as I'm moving - often times you can bait bad shots.
bro i always angle like that and i always get killed with how i angle it i even angle it how ur angling it and i die over and over and i learned how to angle on my own i didnt even know what angling was until i did it and then watched war thunder vids and found out
The Russian 85mm APCBC has some insane angle performance that can still penetrate a Tiger upper front plate when angled. Happens to me all the time.
Yes the soviet 85mm definitely has some magic angled pen
Jumbo: *shoots barrel*
Tiger: *fuck*
Tiger shoots mg port?
Cupola: wtf am I doing here
Thanks, I want to use this on the Panzer IV F2 and H but always got blown to smitherins because I would angle way too much, which would expose the sides of the hull and get me sent to the respawn screen.
Yes, the PzIV can definitely angle and survive some crazy shots now and then. Btw I love the F2 such an amazing tank
if those German mains could read, theyd be very angry right now.
lol ouch!
Is it weird where i angle my tiger and i easily kill jumbos?