I like how Mario and Luigi actually worry about each other and interact with each other in battle unlike most RPG's, tipping there hats at each other and even picking up the fallen brother and carrying him on there shoulders so they don't get hurt anymore then they already are. I love little details like that.
@OHGAS Also, there's this wierd thing I have where I don't realize what things mean until hours after they happen. I realize know that you were telling me that brotherism isn't necessarily a "help each other 100%" relationship. The advice actually helps. It takes a huge weight off my shoulders (You have no idea how much I needed it taken off). Thank you.
Luigi : ........... Me : You're winning if you're trying to win by doing nothing. Luigi : ........... Me : I guess that includes talking... Luigi : X.X Me : ...and.. breathing.....
@@kkkirbieydedede9542 Yes because grinding is still a thing. You can make yourself so over leveled that it won't even matter. The same applies for nearly every turn base rpg.
@@fable5467 Ludwig is kinda smart with giving it his all in one attack, but in any other context beyond literally limiting yourself to not dodge his plan falls apart.
Shrowser is more like a mini-game than a boss fight. But you are forced to counter every single attack. I tried it on my own time and it's impossible no matter what.
Yeah, I’m sure he’ll make an exception for that boss, since you are basically attacking him, so it’s your turn, but he’s attacking you, so it’s his turn...
Seems like people want me to keep doing this after all. After reading the comments, I think I'm gonna go for Partners in Time next (not now though), even though that is the only M&L game I have never played, so this could be interesting for a change. Yes, I know about *that* fight after the final boss, but I want to try to see if I can beat everything in-between. If it's possible then it's possible, even if I have to deal 1 damage at a time or one-shot a boss battle if I must. That, assuming someone else won't do the challenge and upload before I do LOL.
I’m excited to see you beat all of the Mario and Luigi rpgs without dodging. It would be nice if you could tell us when you will release the next video.
Nope. Cackletta always opens with her strongest attack; and it only targets one bro. Incidentally, since you’re at 1HP, that’s what the Max Nuts just outside the room are for.
When was younger, I seriously thought Tolstar was actually called Trollstar, I'm not even joking. And you know whats worse? It fits so good with his character.
"I may have overleveled." Yeah but by how much? Seriously I want to know because you had insane stats throughout the whole run. I expected this to be required in order to survive heavy hitters but not so early on.
@@coyote1772 You need to counterattack Dark Star to break his shield. You also have to survive his suicide attack even if you make it past that somehow.
That's how it was back then before Mario and Luigi bowser inside story came along Mario and Luigi partners in time used the babies to jump twice to that's different
My suggestion is to keep going with this, going through each Mario & Luigi RPG game in order! Then we could see if you could beat all of the game without countering boss attacks.
If this gets popular I'll definitely try to beat the other games with this challenge. That said, I can only see this being 100% possible & without asterisks on Paper Jam, since BiS and Dream Team have giant battles that I'm sure are impossible without avoiding boss attacks, and PiT has the Shrowser fight (I've actually never played PiT, so I don't actually know if there is any boss fight that can instakill you before that).
paper jam impossible: the final koopaling fight... twinsy tropics dungeon Dream team impossible: Giant bosses (zeekeeper needs counters to actually die) One enemy in the beef off can ONLY take damage to counters. Mamoswine: Running, this gives prompts similar to a normal attack... BIS+remake impossible: Giant bosses (the fawful train has too much hp) Dark star requires a counter to progress the fight PIT impossible: True final boss disables attacks. Bowser Jr needs to be countered to stop healing bowser red shroob man needs counters or uber high damage to not instakill u
Break the rules when necessary. Also, many of the giant bosses in BIS supply you with mushrooms. The Bowser Duo is possible because if you deal over 100 damage then it is possible. The Elder Shrooboid is also possible if you are good enough at it, if you deal ≤300 damage then he is possible.
Leon Mystique I once beat bowsers inside story without buying gear (mainly cause I was dumb enough to think switching gear didn’t really have a use) so I wouldn’t say it would be impossible.
Leon Mystique I just dodged almost all the attacks. I wasn’t a grinder, but I did level up to star rank with Mario and Luigi and gold rank for bowser. Sometimes I did get hit and it hurt, but I occasionally healed and Pow’d my way through.
For anyone wondering why he can't use the mush badge for this challenge is because it is the most OP item in the game. It makes it so that the minimum damage you do is much higher. For example when you do a multi-hit attack eventually the hits you do will do 1 damage. But, if you max out your mushrooms, your minimum damage would be over 100 instead of 1 which would mean you could destroy every boss at a very low level.
Yes, I know... I kept trying to come up with ideas for a Yoshi Woolly world challenge run and the best I could do was 'no collectables.' And I've seen a run for something super stupid and I can't remember what it was...
Please try this for the others. While shrowser, at least some of the giant bowser battles, and the zeekeeper along with some others may be impossible, it still would be cool to see
You did thirty times the damage queen bean did to you to her when you fought her with one bros attack. And it wasn’t even one of the seemingly infinite ones like magic window. Yeah I think you over grinded. Edit ok it was necessary later on if anything for Mario’s speed in the last fight.
I’m fine with you overleveling, other people say if it’s impossible, you can’t do it the end up doing it, while you overleveled and just showed us the way it is pretty easily beaten. Respect
I mean it’s kinda impossible to lose if you can grind a extreme amount. Maybe make a rule on how many enemy’s you can fight next time. Great video though!
@@yeihakinda hard to die when you have a extreme amount of HP and defense and close to everything barely chips at your massive total. it would be a more interesting run if he couldn't rely on sheer power to defeat the bosses.
@@ceej5690 but the whole point is to avoid dying. Hes trying to see if it can be done if he didnt level up to the normal level he would die. This isnt some challenge run he did this was more so a mythbuster i have no clue why your complaining about this.
@@yeiha to be honest any RPG which doesn't limit a characters strength (like a low level cap) that has a dodging system can be beaten without dodging. Its just in later entries there is much more variety in items he can use and it would be a more interesting run if he could use those to his advantage(stuff like blue peppers or defense-focused equipment) and him being able to grind a obscene amount could allow him to completely bypass a lot of interesting strategies.
@@ceej5690 Cackletta Soul is literally impossible without as much grinding as he did, as she has obscene speed and WILL just kill both the bros if you don't get to act as early as he did, or ya know, Dodge
@@2111darkboy Just because popple might be an annoying antagonist, he is also a character with a good personality and was even featured in dream team bevause he was a fan favorite. Besides, being a horrid person is kinda what makes popple popple, ya see?
@@Dylan2000YT actually, it's always a multi-hit attack. It being advanced does buff the damage, & allow you to go on a bit longer, but the basic one is multi-hit too.
This is a no-brainer. Nearly every RPG can be beaten with massive leveling, healing, and reviving, and overleveling happened here before the sixth boss. Leveling gives you offensive advantages and the ability to invalidate damage. You "traded" defense for a different kind of defense plus offense.
i wonder how difficult this would be if you weren't overlevelled :p great video, i was pretty sure it was possible, but i'm shocked you got through the cackletta's soul fight at the end under these rules!
Interesting seeing someone make a challenge in a side-quest Mario game and not a Super Mario Bros game like all the other people do. This is far more interesting!
I remember this was my first rpg, I didn’t know what was going on, i didn’t care about badges and it was satisfying to pull off a perfect combo. And also prince peasley is hot
I've always wanted to see Paper Mario without partners or badges in battle. Rules: No using Partner abilities in battle aside from Goombario's Tattle. Strategies can still be used on Partner turns. No badges that have an effect in battle are allowed. This means no HP Plus, no Close Call, no Power Jump, nothing like that. The Attack FX badges are still allowed, because those are useless.
Unless you boost your speed stat to astronomical levels then no, the final boss' attack will always kill you no matter what you do. There, 19 minutes of video summed up in one sentence.
Did a research here: To outspeed the final boss (with all parts included) you must have at least 120 speed or more (though having at least 90 speed means Cackletta only attacks once unless he kills Mario if only he has 90-119 speed and Luigi doesn't have at least 90 speed). Or you can just equip #1 Trousers or Beanstar Pants (Luigi can alternatively wear Anuboo Jeans). As Shyguymask mentions, the annoying hands swinging attack can be disabled by killing off one of the arms. The left arm from game screen is lightning while right arm is fire. The latter attack is more dangerous because def debuff, so you should just prioritize kill this part first. Also, Shyguymask would've made even the final bosses even more anticlimatic if he went with Mush badge and max shrooms, but he chose to not to and equip Great Force instead (which would normally make the bros more glass cannon due to 2x damage taken and dealt). Nice one, Shyguymask!
The final boss for this challenge would, I think, be RNG, since she can use any attack if she starts first, so if it's a group attack, you die. If I remember correctly.
I like the way that in the remake, one of the minibosses makes it impossible, instead of it being a buff to a big boss like Cakletta's soul, it's instead just "It's Max-Power Ludwig Time Baby!" followed by your swift death lmao
Welp. By watching this video, I wanted to see how big pain in the ass is to beat the game without dodging. Instead, I learned how difficult it is to beat it by beign way overleveled. Thanks, dude.
Nope it is programed to deal 999 no matter what even with the you must losse the shorb fight at the beginning of partners in time no matter how hard you try even I hacked the game had 999 defense and 9999 still killed both bros as it's programed
Ontop of overleveling, I'd like to see some strategies behind the stat boosts too to see your stat spread! Thought would be neat. Maybe make the next challenge with the minimum level you can fight and win? These battles aren't too exciting to watch when of course when you maximum level, you are tanking every hit.
Now beat the game only leveling up health. The Chuggaaconroy way. (It's also what me and my brother did the first time we played through the game and it made the game super hard)
For Partners in Time, Shrowser is impossible to defeat without dodging. Considering Dodging is the only way to deal damage. But, I'd like to see Elder Princess Shroob...
In the fawful battle you only need to do a normal fire bros special to get fawful out of his machine, then he is going to counter attack once and do some minor damage, after that he is good as dead.
CatGamer666 Atleast I tell people that they didn't get the joke and unlike you, I don't woooosh them, cause I'm not as braindead as some out there. But I got the joke though.
One of the hardest things I did in this series of games was doing dream team. I made mario a glass canon and Luigi a super tank. That didn't go over well. It wasn't even the hard mode version of the game. I did eventually manage to beat the game, but I had numerous game overs. Give it a shot sometime, you'll know what I mean.
Huh. I had legit never seen her NOT use that flame attack right as the fight as started. So much that I thought this was pretty much hard-coded, which would make that last fight impossible. Interesting to be proven wrong there!
It's actually much harder in the remake as well. Her body parts have more HP, her attacks do much more damage with some of them being harder to avoid and she also debuff your stats much more frequently.
@@BlueDragonknight375 I wouldn't hold out on a game just because of one boss, my guy. Especially not any of the Mario & Luigi RPGs. Super Star Saga is a hella fun game. Trust me, not playing this game is a mistake.
Try the original on virtual console or something. Besides the articles and videos I looked at are a few years old, even though one said the original one was number 1... Just have a ton of health and mushrooms and you're probably good to go!
I have a suggestion... since RPGs have tendency to make your characters overleveled, perhaps it would be a good idea, to gain the EXP ONLY from the bosses and impossible to avoid encounters. That way, you keep your run also, at "Lowest Level Run". That way, it makes it harder on the player, and perhaps allows to gain strategies with more consistency. Kinda like some people do Lv.1 (or Level ZERO) Run in Paper Mario. Where they upgrade BP but don't use it and their HP is 10 and FP is 5. That way, it's a challenge with additional rules. Perhaps, you may wanna revisit this game with those rules as I said... you get EXP only from bosses and battles that you can't avoid. EDIT: Also... Jojora?! IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?!?!?!?!?!? XD
@@hildahilda9468 Then at least consider "certain" level to go with that's doable. Gah! See?! That's the problem with doing such challenges in RPG's... Overleveling can be easily attained without paying attention...
@@deoxysandmew2162 Not really, most games try to have this thing called an EXP Curve, wherein your EXP intake if you're not going egregiously out of your way like they clearly did before Queen Bean, will keep you roughly at the right par level But seriously, you can't beat much of this without levels or dodging, Jojora would have been a solid brick wall, and Final Fawful, and Cackletta Soul would be physically impossible because she gets two free actions to wipe you unless you have some frankly overkill Speed
@@syrelian Interesting... but either way... if that's the case... like I said, it would be then a good idea to set the challenge in the certain amount of EXP gathered. To set the lowest "possible" level for the challenge. You know?! Just to try and push the game's limits... how low with EXP can we go?! That makes it double interesting and challenging at the same time. Like I've mentioned before... Paper Mario runs are so mind boggling that you can beat the game at Lv.1, like... I didn't thought it was possible, but it CAN be done. Trial and error... experimentation... And sheer thought of making the game harder on the player, cause why not?! lol
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"This is really important! You can dodge Bowser's attacks. Do you want to learn how?"
> NO
And he never did.
"No I cant you dumbass!"
"Oh okay, I should've known!"
Yeet
1000th like
HOW ABOUT NO.
I like how Mario and Luigi actually worry about each other and interact with each other in battle unlike most RPG's, tipping there hats at each other and even picking up the fallen brother and carrying him on there shoulders so they don't get hurt anymore then they already are. I love little details like that.
Ikr
It's like me and my brother
@@jazzssbu9065 I wish it was like that w/ mine.
@OHGAS That sounds... painful... yet fun. How do I break necks and how effective is this in fighting?
@OHGAS Also, there's this wierd thing I have where I don't realize what things mean until hours after they happen. I realize know that you were telling me that brotherism isn't necessarily a "help each other 100%" relationship. The advice actually helps. It takes a huge weight off my shoulders (You have no idea how much I needed it taken off). Thank you.
"Luigi is practically unbeatable" hmmm it's almost as if he has some experience with winning by doing nothing
Oh yes...
The only character who can defeat Shaggy
(b0w0)b nice
Looooool
Luigi : ...........
Me : You're winning if you're trying to win by doing nothing.
Luigi : ...........
Me : I guess that includes talking...
Luigi : X.X
Me : ...and.. breathing.....
Most of the bosses: They're just standing there, menacingly.
He’s standing there... MENACINGLY!!!!
Daidus
gEt oUt oF tHeRe sPoNgEbOb
Now they're t-posing for dominance!
@@huntyred3010 hmm is that a JoJo reference?
"now for the hardest boss in the game"
Me: he's going to one shot it isn't he
For a moment I thought he was serious considering I haven't played the game.
@@Cake_Sauce ya same
I haven't played the game so i thought it would be the end for the no dodging challenge
Great Force makes most bosses too easy
@@Cake_Sauce bruh
"I may have overleveled."
"no mush badge"
I shudder to think what would've happened if you DID use mush badges...
I think I know what it would be like. OHKO every boss.
Hakai
The Mario Bros: We're about to end the final boss's career
"We're the Mario Brothers, Overpowering is are game."
@@shadedcycle They would've done so anyway.
Basically playing with fair rules, considering enemies cant dodge
Strong Spaghetti yeah but bosses have a TON of health most of the time and decent damage
Better stock up on EVERYTHING and better mast chopper bros
@@Lowman_Farmer All that health and damage output means nothing if they can't hit you.
My opinion
Is it possible to play M&L RPG 1 without healing and dodging...
@@kkkirbieydedede9542 Yes because grinding is still a thing. You can make yourself so over leveled that it won't even matter. The same applies for nearly every turn base rpg.
Gotta love how you get stopped by Ludwig of all things in the remake
#bestkoopaling
@@fable5467 Agreed
@@fable5467
Ludwig is kinda smart with giving it his all in one attack, but in any other context beyond literally limiting yourself to not dodge his plan falls apart.
@@shyguyrocks1 unless you fucking suck at Counterattacks
Ludwig
Mario RPG but it plays like any other RPG
Super mario rpg is a game were you cannot doge enemy attacks
@@Fenyx_Birb
I meant Mario RPG games in general. As in, literally every single other Mario RPG where you can dodge attacks.
Anyone remember paper Mario?
Keeninja Gamer there are
Keeninja Gamer Oh ok
Superstar saga is a game where, if you grind just once, you are basically OP for the entirety of the game XD
That's most, nigh, ALL RPGs summed up.
It depends on how long you grind and what rpg you are grinding in.
or just use KB bros, boom, first hit everything.
Fine&Dandy's I think the one exception is Paper Mario, mainly because you can only grind so much until you max your stats out
Yeah O_O
Even if Shrowser is impossible, seeing Elder Princess Shroob like that would be interesting, since she is much tankier than Cackletta Soul
Shrowser is more like a mini-game than a boss fight. But you are forced to counter every single attack. I tried it on my own time and it's impossible no matter what.
Yeah, I’m sure he’ll make an exception for that boss, since you are basically attacking him, so it’s your turn, but he’s attacking you, so it’s his turn...
@@supersanscraftcommentediti5337 ouch, my brain...
elder princess shroob took me like 45 minutes to beat, so i would LOVE to see her get defeated without even dodging lol
Imagine if he does Bowser’s inside story and fights the X bosses without dodging. *Megalovania plays*
It's a shame that you got so far in the 3DS version only for *Ludwig* to kill the run.
*attack draws to an end*
"Huh, that wasn't so bad"
999
999
Game Over
As a veteran of the original, it caught me off guard as well.
*Ludwig The Destroyer Of Worlds*
@Stampymmminecart Makes me wonder if there is any left over ai/moves for Ludwig, hopefully TCF can answer that for us!
He was easy I say, I did a no hit!
Ludwig was right, he WAS too much to handle
Seems like people want me to keep doing this after all. After reading the comments, I think I'm gonna go for Partners in Time next (not now though), even though that is the only M&L game I have never played, so this could be interesting for a change. Yes, I know about *that* fight after the final boss, but I want to try to see if I can beat everything in-between. If it's possible then it's possible, even if I have to deal 1 damage at a time or one-shot a boss battle if I must.
That, assuming someone else won't do the challenge and upload before I do LOL.
I’m excited to see you beat all of the Mario and Luigi rpgs without dodging. It would be nice if you could tell us when you will release the next video.
Partners in time? oh my fucking god. I had a hard time with the shroob princess.
@Shyguymask do paper Mario and the thousand year door no dodging challenge!
The only problem es the last fight were you have to dodge to damage bowser
@@DPerrito1 what? Which fight are you talking about?
Glad you were quick enough to outspeed Cackletta's second attack.
Yeah... otherwise if he wanted to win... he would have to break the rule just this one time...
Yeah if not it would've been grinding time
More like lucky enough that Cackletta decided not to use an attack that can hit both Mario bros.
Nope. Cackletta always opens with her strongest attack; and it only targets one bro. Incidentally, since you’re at 1HP, that’s what the Max Nuts just outside the room are for.
@@MagnificantSasquatch When I fight her, she sometime start by raising her attack
1:15 he said oof before it was fun
Oof
OOF
*Oof*
Oofergang
*off*
When was younger, I seriously thought Tolstar was actually called Trollstar, I'm not even joking. And you know whats worse? It fits so good with his character.
Trololol
@@usernametaken017 trelelel
"I may have overleveled."
Yeah but by how much? Seriously I want to know because you had insane stats throughout the whole run. I expected this to be required in order to survive heavy hitters but not so early on.
@@thegoodguy2381 maybe..
I want to see a run where he doesn't grind unless he has to
@@thegoodguy2381 how can I make that glitch?
"Luigi is practically unbeatable"
Does this mean that Luigi can win by doing absolutely nothing?
I’d give it a Yes. But only because we had already established that Yes.
Stupid question. Of course he can
7:58
Luigi -wins by absolutely doing nothing- survives by absolutely doing nothing
Radiation sandwich pickle.
Can you beat Mario and Luigi Partners in Time without dodging?
*This is the real challenge*
hugo diaz sadly no because of shrowser, but you could see if the rest of the game is bearable without dodging
Bowser’s Inside Story
If you need to defeat Shrowser to pass the game, then no
@@coyote1772 You need to counterattack Dark Star to break his shield. You also have to survive his suicide attack even if you make it past that somehow.
@@6k546 then what about in MINIMAL dodges?
it's weird to see Mario jump only once on attacking in a Mario and Luigi game.
That's how it was back then before Mario and Luigi bowser inside story came along
Mario and Luigi partners in time used the babies to jump twice to that's different
@@quackmahnameisnowquack9566 I don't think them pointing it out meant they didn't know that it was a thing prior to watching...
I only played the remake so far and was confused why they weren't jumping twice
My suggestion is to keep going with this, going through each Mario & Luigi RPG game in order! Then we could see if you could beat all of the game without countering boss attacks.
By the way, I know this would take a long time. But it would definitely be really cool to see!
If this gets popular I'll definitely try to beat the other games with this challenge. That said, I can only see this being 100% possible & without asterisks on Paper Jam, since BiS and Dream Team have giant battles that I'm sure are impossible without avoiding boss attacks, and PiT has the Shrowser fight (I've actually never played PiT, so I don't actually know if there is any boss fight that can instakill you before that).
Paper Mario?
paper jam impossible:
the final koopaling fight...
twinsy tropics dungeon
Dream team impossible:
Giant bosses (zeekeeper needs counters to actually die)
One enemy in the beef off can ONLY take damage to counters.
Mamoswine: Running, this gives prompts similar to a normal attack...
BIS+remake impossible:
Giant bosses (the fawful train has too much hp)
Dark star requires a counter to progress the fight
PIT impossible:
True final boss disables attacks.
Bowser Jr needs to be countered to stop healing bowser
red shroob man needs counters or uber high damage to not instakill u
Break the rules when necessary. Also, many of the giant bosses in BIS supply you with mushrooms. The Bowser Duo is possible because if you deal over 100 damage then it is possible. The Elder Shrooboid is also possible if you are good enough at it, if you deal ≤300 damage then he is possible.
I like these unique challenge rather than just the coinless ones
Hmm... Beating superstar saga without BUYING any items? (In short, no using coins)
Oh no I bet no one can accomplish that.
Leon Mystique
I once beat bowsers inside story without buying gear (mainly cause I was dumb enough to think switching gear didn’t really have a use) so I wouldn’t say it would be impossible.
@@JugularJohn Was it a challenge for you? How did you manage your health during the fights?
Leon Mystique
I just dodged almost all the attacks. I wasn’t a grinder, but I did level up to star rank with Mario and Luigi and gold rank for bowser. Sometimes I did get hit and it hurt, but I occasionally healed and Pow’d my way through.
@@JugularJohn That's nice!
I can't believe this video, the one about not dodging, is where I finally realize what the clue for Cackletta Soul's spinning arm attack is.
Mario: dies in cutscene by a shot
Luigi: gets stabbed, impaled, burned, shot, crucified,
*tis but a scratch*
For anyone wondering why he can't use the mush badge for this challenge is because it is the most OP item in the game. It makes it so that the minimum damage you do is much higher. For example when you do a multi-hit attack eventually the hits you do will do 1 damage. But, if you max out your mushrooms, your minimum damage would be over 100 instead of 1 which would mean you could destroy every boss at a very low level.
These "is it possible?" videos are gettings out of hand
Yes, I know... I kept trying to come up with ideas for a Yoshi Woolly world challenge run and the best I could do was 'no collectables.' And I've seen a run for something super stupid and I can't remember what it was...
Is it possible to make an original kind of video?
@@gavin3415 Yes, and I have ideas, but I'd rather not say otherwise when some one makes it it won't be original anymore...
Agreed
Please try this for the others. While shrowser, at least some of the giant bowser battles, and the zeekeeper along with some others may be impossible, it still would be cool to see
The fact that Cackletta has a regular enemy death animation if you kill her before she goes rage mode again is amusing.
Rpg mario
*_HARDCORE EXPERIENCE_*
YE YOU RIGHT SUPER HARDCORE
No, RPG mario, pro version
3DS superstar saga: Shyguymask is doing well with his challenge
Ludwig: I’m about to ruin this man’s whole career
Mario’s Bizarre Adventure: 「Luigi is Unbreakable」
-1- damage
*this challenge is going to be easier than expected..*
You did thirty times the damage queen bean did to you to her when you fought her with one bros attack. And it wasn’t even one of the seemingly infinite ones like magic window. Yeah I think you over grinded. Edit ok it was necessary later on if anything for Mario’s speed in the last fight.
this challenge would be impossible without over grinding tbh
I’m fine with you overleveling, other people say if it’s impossible, you can’t do it the end up doing it, while you overleveled and just showed us the way it is pretty easily beaten.
Respect
I mean it’s kinda impossible to lose if you can grind a extreme amount. Maybe make a rule on how many enemy’s you can fight next time. Great video though!
Well the whole point to see was if you can beat it without doging. The grinding part doesnt matter its just to see if you can beat it lol
@@yeihakinda hard to die when you have a extreme amount of HP and defense and close to everything barely chips at your massive total. it would be a more interesting run if he couldn't rely on sheer power to defeat the bosses.
@@ceej5690 but the whole point is to avoid dying. Hes trying to see if it can be done if he didnt level up to the normal level he would die. This isnt some challenge run he did this was more so a mythbuster i have no clue why your complaining about this.
@@yeiha to be honest any RPG which doesn't limit a characters strength (like a low level cap) that has a dodging system can be beaten without dodging. Its just in later entries there is much more variety in items he can use and it would be a more interesting run if he could use those to his advantage(stuff like blue peppers or defense-focused equipment) and him being able to grind a obscene amount could allow him to completely bypass a lot of interesting strategies.
@@ceej5690 Cackletta Soul is literally impossible without as much grinding as he did, as she has obscene speed and WILL just kill both the bros if you don't get to act as early as he did, or ya know, Dodge
Not going to lie. I really didn’t expect the outcome. Great job!
I see what you did with the popple and rookie battles, see?
This is a edit, see?
Thanks for the likes and hearts, you drips!
YA’ SEE!?!
i hate popple
BEARhug Channel Well, you don’t have good taste, ya’ drip!
@@supersanscraftcommentediti5337 But i mean, why do you guys like himM i dont get it, he is a piece of shit
@@2111darkboy Just because popple might be an annoying antagonist, he is also a character with a good personality and was even featured in dream team bevause he was a fan favorite. Besides, being a horrid person is kinda what makes popple popple, ya see?
7:54 that’s because your bros are the separate parts of the terminator
Mario has godly attack strength and Luigi just stands there, MENACINGLY
The run is invalid, you dodged the final "Castle Explosion" attack /s
edfreak9001 i mean...ya ain’t wrong...not right but still not wrong
Zaden Grenell yeah that /s stands for sarcasm
He did not dodge he escape even though it wasn't in a battle
You can multi hit Chopper Bros? Why didn't the game tell me that?
It's an advance trick
@@Dylan2000YT actually, it's always a multi-hit attack. It being advanced does buff the damage, & allow you to go on a bit longer, but the basic one is multi-hit too.
SPAM THE A(?) BUTTON
If you set the bros level to 3 so no slow down happens, then you can mash better
@@glquam07 was it "B"?
Wait it was "A" huh?
Yeah spam "A", though spamming it will make it's "damage per hit" less
Fawful : "Oof"
*Roblox death sound intensifies*
This is a no-brainer. Nearly every RPG can be beaten with massive leveling, healing, and reviving, and overleveling happened here before the sixth boss. Leveling gives you offensive advantages and the ability to invalidate damage. You "traded" defense for a different kind of defense plus offense.
12:15 I see you jumping over those shockwaves. Don't think you can get away with dodging a boss's attacks just because it isn't in a battle!
i wonder how difficult this would be if you weren't overlevelled :p
great video, i was pretty sure it was possible, but i'm shocked you got through the cackletta's soul fight at the end under these rules!
"Oh... Ohhhh... I got heartburn..."
-Rookie 2003
Interesting seeing someone make a challenge in a side-quest Mario game and not a Super Mario Bros game like all the other people do. This is far more interesting!
10:45 clever music choice.
I remember this was my first rpg, I didn’t know what was going on, i didn’t care about badges and it was satisfying to pull off a perfect combo. And also prince peasley is hot
But you can't do it on remake
Why?:
Ludwig
This is actually a really fun challenge, I'd love to see it done with the later entries, to see if it's possible there.
(8:54) **Chuckles** I’m in danger!
Mario: Sometimes I really wish I listened to what the toad told me.
Peach: What did he tell you?
Mario: I don't know. I didn't listen.
This is a video that I REALLY like to see. Please do more Mario & Luigi no dodge challenge.
Human. The ingenuity in this video amazed me and the others watching we truly applaud you.
CHEATER!
You dodged the explosion of Bowser's castle.
(Sad Goomy noises)
Lol
Mario: takes massive damage in order to battle for his survival
Luigi: *stardust crusaders intensifies*
12:50
I think that would be any guy’s expression if we were in Ludwig’s place...
Wait, did Cackletta even use her EYE LASER attack in this run? That’s the most damaging attack in the entire game.
When I saw this I immediatly remembered the final boss. Then I remembered that when you're really lucky she will only boost her attack.
I've always wanted to see Paper Mario without partners or badges in battle.
Rules: No using Partner abilities in battle aside from Goombario's Tattle. Strategies can still be used on Partner turns. No badges that have an effect in battle are allowed. This means no HP Plus, no Close Call, no Power Jump, nothing like that. The Attack FX badges are still allowed, because those are useless.
Man this was a good run, well played my friend
I don’t know what you were talking about, seeing all the bosses get stomped flat was very entertaining
Unless you boost your speed stat to astronomical levels then no, the final boss' attack will always kill you no matter what you do.
There, 19 minutes of video summed up in one sentence.
Alessandro Bozzi
I was looking for this comment
Which he did
Alessandro Bozzi isn't there a badge or something that allows you to attack first
Did a research here:
To outspeed the final boss (with all parts included) you must have at least 120 speed or more (though having at least 90 speed means Cackletta only attacks once unless he kills Mario if only he has 90-119 speed and Luigi doesn't have at least 90 speed). Or you can just equip #1 Trousers or Beanstar Pants (Luigi can alternatively wear Anuboo Jeans).
As Shyguymask mentions, the annoying hands swinging attack can be disabled by killing off one of the arms. The left arm from game screen is lightning while right arm is fire. The latter attack is more dangerous because def debuff, so you should just prioritize kill this part first.
Also, Shyguymask would've made even the final bosses even more anticlimatic if he went with Mush badge and max shrooms, but he chose to not to and equip Great Force instead (which would normally make the bros more glass cannon due to 2x damage taken and dealt). Nice one, Shyguymask!
The final boss for this challenge would, I think, be RNG, since she can use any attack if she starts first, so if it's a group attack, you die. If I remember correctly.
I like the way that in the remake, one of the minibosses makes it impossible, instead of it being a buff to a big boss like Cakletta's soul, it's instead just "It's Max-Power Ludwig Time Baby!" followed by your swift death lmao
Welp. By watching this video, I wanted to see how big pain in the ass is to beat the game without dodging.
Instead, I learned how difficult it is to beat it by beign way overleveled. Thanks, dude.
"Can you beat Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga and Bowser's Minions without dodging?"
Ludwig: Ha! No!
I might actually try this on my own time for BiS and Dream Team.
Same for Dream Team, it also has giant battles.
Right, the giant battles were weird like that. Every other fight would be possible though, right?
The Arch final boss does a punch attack that goes on infinitely until you counter it. Pretty sure it's not beatable.
TheSVSexton Yes, Giant form Bowser goes into his shell and Giant Luigi must counter it by spinning his Hammer.
Dream Team with as few dodges as possible sounds really fun.
*Remembers Big Massif*
On second thought, maybe not..
It's sad that this series ended, those games help us Explore Mario Universe
Pretty sure the 3DS version is beatable with Muddy Pants - they make Luigi take 0 damage from monsters slower than him
Nope it is programed to deal 999 no matter what even with the you must losse the shorb fight at the beginning of partners in time no matter how hard you try even I hacked the game had 999 defense and 9999 still killed both bros as it's programed
Now for the hardest fight in the game.....
The long-lost lamb sauce.
Ontop of overleveling, I'd like to see some strategies behind the stat boosts too to see your stat spread! Thought would be neat.
Maybe make the next challenge with the minimum level you can fight and win?
These battles aren't too exciting to watch when of course when you maximum level, you are tanking every hit.
These videos are just making the young version of me realize i sucked at these games
"Next "Boss" Wiggler."
Why is that so funny
Man youtube recommendations have been on point lately. Awesome vid my dude👍
12:40
Mario and Luigi = Homework
Lemmy = Me
To be fair, Wiggler is actually HARDER if you bother to dodge, because landing on him during his attack can reset the segments.
Imagine how bruised up they must be after all of that
I’d like to imagine them having PTSD from all that
I guess Mario wanted to try the whole winning by doing absolutely nothing thing... and it worked. GGs
Now beat the game only leveling up health. The Chuggaaconroy way.
(It's also what me and my brother did the first time we played through the game and it made the game super hard)
Same
For Partners in Time, Shrowser is impossible to defeat without dodging. Considering Dodging is the only way to deal damage.
But, I'd like to see Elder Princess Shroob...
In the fawful battle you only need to do a normal fire bros special to get fawful out of his machine, then he is going to counter attack once and do some minor damage, after that he is good as dead.
Love these types of videos! I would really like to see more, and if it isn't possible it would be neat to see the minimum amount of dodges needed
14:58 THEY JUMPED TO DODGE IT MISSION FAILED
Cutscene not in the battle sir (or ma'am)
@@quackmahnameisnowquack9566 r/woooooosh it took a year
CatGamer666 Atleast I tell people that they didn't get the joke and unlike you, I don't woooosh them, cause I'm not as braindead as some out there. But I got the joke though.
Fabian Martinez Unfortunately, you didn't get the joke, but I won't join a bandwagon full of braindead a-holes.
@@Pusheeen_Pesao e mierda
One of the hardest things I did in this series of games was doing dream team.
I made mario a glass canon and Luigi a super tank. That didn't go over well. It wasn't even the hard mode version of the game.
I did eventually manage to beat the game, but I had numerous game overs.
Give it a shot sometime, you'll know what I mean.
Sm4sh_Alf I don’t know what you mean how do you do that also what if you do the opposite and go for just defense and defense
8:31 'cause you where lucky in worst part he would stole Mario's or Luigi's hammer and (as you can't dodge)you would take VERY heavy damage.
Like at 10:08?
@@TunaBear64 Yes, exactly.
Huh. I had legit never seen her NOT use that flame attack right as the fight as started. So much that I thought this was pretty much hard-coded, which would make that last fight impossible. Interesting to be proven wrong there!
not dodging is like you fighting enemies except the enemies can't dodge either
Also, the fact that you specified "no Mush Badge" amuses me because I actually remember how broken those things were.
I have seen many boss rankings, Cackletta's soul usually was in the top 10 hardest boss rankings
It's actually much harder in the remake as well. Her body parts have more HP, her attacks do much more damage with some of them being harder to avoid and she also debuff your stats much more frequently.
Oh joy. Cackletta is why I'm hesitant to pick up Super Star Saga. Hearing that she's even worse in the remake does not help.
@@BlueDragonknight375 I wouldn't hold out on a game just because of one boss, my guy. Especially not any of the Mario & Luigi RPGs. Super Star Saga is a hella fun game.
Trust me, not playing this game is a mistake.
Try the original on virtual console or something. Besides the articles and videos I looked at are a few years old, even though one said the original one was number 1... Just have a ton of health and mushrooms and you're probably good to go!
she isn't even THAT hard. i honestly don't know where you guys got your boss rankings.
Cackletta's Soul is a no. Unless your Speed is above 120,which allows you to have the first turn and heal.
Mario rpg with final fantasy physics.
This was a really well made video! I definitely would try this in Partners in time aswell!
I have a suggestion... since RPGs have tendency to make your characters overleveled, perhaps it would be a good idea, to gain the EXP ONLY from the bosses and impossible to avoid encounters. That way, you keep your run also, at "Lowest Level Run".
That way, it makes it harder on the player, and perhaps allows to gain strategies with more consistency.
Kinda like some people do Lv.1 (or Level ZERO) Run in Paper Mario.
Where they upgrade BP but don't use it and their HP is 10 and FP is 5.
That way, it's a challenge with additional rules.
Perhaps, you may wanna revisit this game with those rules as I said... you get EXP only from bosses and battles that you can't avoid.
EDIT: Also... Jojora?!
IS THAT A JOJO REFERENCE?!?!?!?!?!? XD
You'd be way too underlevelled for that to work in endgame
@@hildahilda9468 Then at least consider "certain" level to go with that's doable.
Gah! See?! That's the problem with doing such challenges in RPG's...
Overleveling can be easily attained without paying attention...
@@deoxysandmew2162 Not really, most games try to have this thing called an EXP Curve, wherein your EXP intake if you're not going egregiously out of your way like they clearly did before Queen Bean, will keep you roughly at the right par level
But seriously, you can't beat much of this without levels or dodging, Jojora would have been a solid brick wall, and Final Fawful, and Cackletta Soul would be physically impossible because she gets two free actions to wipe you unless you have some frankly overkill Speed
@@syrelian Interesting... but either way... if that's the case... like I said, it would be then a good idea to set the challenge in the certain amount of EXP gathered.
To set the lowest "possible" level for the challenge. You know?! Just to try and push the game's limits... how low with EXP can we go?!
That makes it double interesting and challenging at the same time.
Like I've mentioned before... Paper Mario runs are so mind boggling that you can beat the game at Lv.1, like... I didn't thought it was possible, but it CAN be done.
Trial and error... experimentation...
And sheer thought of making the game harder on the player, cause why not?! lol
Well, fuck me. Seems like I underestimated Mario's speed in the final boss battle
5:09 You were way overleveled for some of these bosses. I took 35+ damage from cackletta's attacks (I was playing the 3DS remake)
3DS remake has largely retuned damage, and he actually needed that much leveling simply to be fast enough to survive the opening round
In the 3DS version the enemies do real damage. The OG version is easy as heck.
Great video! I would love if you could have audio commentary next time!