PixInsight - Custom filters for SPCC

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  • @JethroXP
    @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've heard that the download link isn't working for some people. Trying again with this link:
    1drv.ms/u/s!Aj4oOkj6QIhZk7gUAD-DzJPlWOB4pQ?e=hzMxJn

    • @yggdrasill68
      @yggdrasill68 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unfortunately it seems not working too...

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yggdrasill68 I just tried it and it's working for me. I suspect it's an issue with your browser. I'd suggest either clearing your browser cache, or trying a different browser.

    • @yggdrasill68
      @yggdrasill68 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JethroXP thank you, Unfortunately Edge doesn't like google drive ;) with firefox it worked perfectly. Thank you for the great job

  • @andreirgang
    @andreirgang 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That's a great tutorial, the only thing I missed is where can I activate the option to show the wrench, the curve explorer and the filter management

  • @TheOriginalTommo
    @TheOriginalTommo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really appreciate your taking the time to put this together. Was struggling with this and the ALP-T so fingers crossed this will help 👍

  • @bradabongr32
    @bradabongr32 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hello Jason.
    Thank you so much for taking the time to do this for everyone.
    I can see the Antlia ALP-T in your list I gather this is for the Ha/Oiii filter. Is there any chance you could add the ALP-T S2/Hb filter also please?
    I would gladly pay you for your time as these filter sets have been invaluable for me whilst learning Pixinsight.
    Thank you again.
    Brad

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Done! You can find it in the OneDrive share with the others. It's named "Antlia-ALP-T-5nm-SII-Hb.csv"

  • @jr10
    @jr10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you so much for the time in effort that you put into this video. Along with the new filter additions, you helped me fix basic mistakes I was making with this program. I truly appreciate that. Subbed your channel.

  • @davidaylsworth8964
    @davidaylsworth8964 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I had to look up this video again. Just realized that I missed doing something the first time through. I’m ready for SPCC now!

  • @billschlein
    @billschlein ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jason. Thanks for making this available! I also use the ZWO ASI2600MC Pro and have the IDAS NBZ filter, so this is spot on! One micro contribution I would offer: I think the Channel = PAN may refer to "Panchromatic." A term from the film days meaning "sensitive to all visible colors of the spectrum." Contrast that with "Orthochromatic" which meant "sensitive to all visible light except red" which meant your darkroom could be lit with red lights. 🙂

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That makes sense! Thanks for the info, and glad they worked out for you!

  • @markmuratore413
    @markmuratore413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just found this video. Fantastic! Thanks for this.

  • @ymankindle
    @ymankindle ปีที่แล้ว

    This was incredibly helpful and explained very well. Thank you.

  • @jeremyhobbs7428
    @jeremyhobbs7428 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for doing all this work! Really a great resource.

  • @KathleenNeugebauer
    @KathleenNeugebauer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just customized multiple filters in PixInsight. Thankyou! Trying to make my own with the graphs supplied by Optolong, but a bit confused on how to create the three channels. Trying to create these for the Optolong UHC Filter. Have you tried this one yet? I don't see it on your download page.

  • @paulgrace8971
    @paulgrace8971 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    THANK YOU :) Just done my new Altair Duo

  • @Dionaeatrap
    @Dionaeatrap หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great vid! Opens up many new possibilities for me.
    Are you by chance still adding filters? Or can show us how? I am using the Antila 4nm SiiOiii filter and do not see it in list. Thank you!!
    Edit(I am assuning the altair dualband you list is the HaOiii, not the SiiOiii?)

  • @williamshaw9950
    @williamshaw9950 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very useful. I'm fiddling with the Altair TRI-RGB using your method as I write. I'm going to try the end to end process myself but might mail you if I get stuck!

  • @Archangel1288
    @Archangel1288 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Any idea on the IDAS NB1 Tri-band? Been hitting my head against the wall with adding it to SPCC.

  • @jean-marcgillard
    @jean-marcgillard 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hi Jason,
    unfortunately it seems that these "Curve explorer" and "filter management" buttons had desapear with the latest PI update.
    😪
    JM

    • @jean-marcgillard
      @jean-marcgillard 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Now there is a process call "Filter management"

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With the most recent version of PixInsight they have moved filter management out of the SPCC Process and into it's own process called FilterManager. It can be found in Process > Spectrophotometry > FilterManager.

  • @oscar__rally
    @oscar__rally ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, thanks for the video. I have a 533mc pro and the optolong L-Pro filter.
    So my question is, should I select the Sony Color Sensor UV/IR cut + the L-Pro for each channel?

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's correct! The first time you do that it will save them temporarily to the in-memory database. To have access to them again later you can either merge them with the default database or export your own custom database and then set that as the default so they are available every time you run PixInsight.

  • @jimglish
    @jimglish ปีที่แล้ว

    Jason...I recently aquired a slightly older filter that's not in your database. It's the IDAS LPS-V4 filter that was recommended by a friend and seems to do really well with Nebula. It's similar to several others, but different enought that I figured I'd check with you. I'm using it with the ZWO 294MC Pro. Thanks.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've added the csv file for the IDAS LPS-V4 to the share. You can grab it there an import to PixInsight using the instructions in the video or the README.txt file. Cheers!

    • @jimglish
      @jimglish ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JethroXP Thanks so much...I was going to try making one myself but stubbled trying to graph the data Excel. I assume you use a seperate graphing program. Again, thanks for your expertise.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimglish Your welcome! I struggled initially too, also trying to use Excel. Turns out that a simple web based graphing tool (linked in the readme.txt file) and a text editor (I used Notepad++) made it super easy.

    • @jimglish
      @jimglish ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JethroXP That web based graphing tool is great...seems pretty intuitive. Maybe I can figure it out and do any new filters with it. Thx.

  • @r.g.wilson4567
    @r.g.wilson4567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Info Thanks. My ZWO ASI6200MC Pro uses the Sony IMX455 sensor which is listed but it only has an IR Cut filter. Should I use it instead of the Ideal QE curve? And to define the filters should I use "Sony Color CMOS" Thanks again.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For OSC Ideal QE Curve is your best option. ZWO's Chart for the 6200 implies that it has UV and IR cut filters because they only show relative responsiveness from 400nm to 700nm, but they don't actually mention UV/IR cut anywhere on that product page. Given that I'd stick with the Sony Color CMOS UV/IR-Cut, but you could also experiment and see if you notice any difference.

    • @r.g.wilson4567
      @r.g.wilson4567 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for getting back so quick. Will do as you suggest. And thanks for the filters you made available thru the download.@@JethroXP

  • @clarky_astro
    @clarky_astro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jason. Thanks so much for doing this. I'm sorry to bother you but I'm trying to set up the IDAS NBZ-UHS filters (RGB respectively) with the new FilterManager and add them to my existing filter database, but without success - endless error messages from PI. When I select "import CSV filter definitions" from the folder I downloaded the csv files from your link, the process console says "Error: unable to determine a default luminance filter" Any idea how to overcome this? The complete lack of PI documentation for the FilterManager is rather frustrating!!
    Thanks again - you're a star

    • @clarky_astro
      @clarky_astro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sorry, I seem to have done it somehow, though I've no idea how. I exported the existing csv files then copy/pasted your files into the same folder then merge with csv definitions, merge with default filters.....all in FilterManager. I really don't understand what I've done - I used to just load my own xpsd file each time and it worked fine

  • @houstonderk
    @houstonderk 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Anyone having issues with having a filter not showing in spcc but its in the filter manager set? Using the idas NBZ filter and can see the excel file but it never shows in spcc but the other new ones do.

  • @TomHarnish
    @TomHarnish ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for creating these and freely sharing your work. But as you've no doubt discovered, no good deed goes unpunished. Customer Support is now your albatross. And I have a question to add to your burden: When I open Filter Management and specify a folder of CSVs (yours) to be imported and merged nothing is added/merged. Any ideas why that might happen (iMac OSX 13.2, PixInsight 1.8.9-1 x64)

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think we just confirmed in the PixInsight Tips and Tricks thread on FB that simply "trying again" worked?

    • @TomHarnish
      @TomHarnish ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JethroXP Yep, thank you!

  • @bennettdj100
    @bennettdj100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Jason, I'm curious if you've tried (and can create) dedicated narrowband filters for mono cameras? So instead of going to Narrowband filters mode and manually inputting the wavelength and bandwidth for the filters, create custom filters for let's say the ZWO 2600MM with the Antlia 3NM SHO filters and select those as the RGB filters?

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Derek, I haven't yet but the process would be the same as what I've been doing for the multiband pass OSC filters. All I need is a good light transmission curve chart for the filters. My understanding from a developer at PixInsight is that for whatever reason the filter manufacturers have been unwilling to share this data with the PixInsight team, which is why they (and I) have to rely on published charts to build these. If you have a link to the charts, I'd be happy to create them.

  • @julianmatthews3262
    @julianmatthews3262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jason, thank you for your great work on setting these filter files up. As advised to you, I use the Altair Astro Quadband filter to which you set up four files, the Altair-Quadband-OSC csv and the individual Sony CMOS R, G & B quadband csvs.
    I am newish to PI and just wish to confirm the correct selection of these files, please.
    When I have done one of my sessions with the NB Quadband filter, am I right in thinking, that I just select the Ideal QE Curve and then each of the individual Sony CMOS R, G & B quadband csv in the red, green and blue filter selection box?
    This would then negate me having to tick the narrowband tick box and add the requisite values?
    Also, would I ever have the need to use just the Altair Quadband OSC csv file and if so when and how?
    Thanks in anticipation

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are correct, that’s how to use them. The only need you would have for the PAN version is if you wanted to create new R, G, and B versions for a different camera, one that has a different curve than the Sony Color CMOS UVIRcut.

    • @julianmatthews3262
      @julianmatthews3262 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for your swift reply. Happy New Year to you.

    • @julianmatthews3262
      @julianmatthews3262 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JethroXPHi Jason, myself and William Shaw are looking for filter files for Altair's new tri rgb filter. Jason is trying to write a new csv but struggling getting the file right and uploading to the new build PI. Wondered if you could help please, we can send the filter specs if you need them. Thanks for your support

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@julianmatthews3262 Sure, happy to help. Been a busy few weeks but getting back to normal now so I can spend some time on this. Can you post a link to the light transmission chart for the filters?

  • @tonyruggles
    @tonyruggles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jason, just seen this video, followed your instructions and it works GREAT, Thanks. If you can would you please ADD the Antlia Quad Band filter for OSC as it passes NUV & NIR. Thankyou, Tony

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Tony, it's in there, look for "Antlia Quadband Anti-Light Pollution". Cheers!

    • @tonyruggles
      @tonyruggles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Jason, yes i found it after i had sent you the message. Thanks again

  • @karlmorris7451
    @karlmorris7451 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Jason, this was a great video, any chance of making one for the SVBony SV220 Dual Band filter. A side question, If my camera already has the Sony Color Sensor UVIRcut installed is there any benefit using a seperate UV/IR cut filter with it, or pointless really

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Done! You'll find it in the file share location with the others.

  • @jean-marcgillard
    @jean-marcgillard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great job !!!
    Thank you 😀

  • @justintowne1
    @justintowne1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any chance you are still updating filters? The new IDAS NBZ-II was released and ended up getting that. Not sure how much difference there would be from that vs the regular NBZ.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Done! I added the NBZ-II and the new Optolong L-Quad enhance filters.

  • @DW-me4kn
    @DW-me4kn ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!! ThankYou!

  • @JoeyTrotz
    @JoeyTrotz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any chance someone is developing the curves for the Antlia Dark LRGBR+ filters? Or for Antlia's Ultra 2.5nm Ha/SIII/OII? Loved the video - very little out there on this topic!

  • @JonnyBravo0311
    @JonnyBravo0311 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting... since I shoot with a 294MM Pro and Chroma filters, I was covered by the default offerings. One thing to point out - not all cameras have a UV/IR cut. The 2600MC, for example, lists IR cut, but makes no mention of UV. Same with the 2400MC. However, the 533MC only has an anti-reflective window coating - no UV/IR filtration. Granted, you really _SHOULD_ be imaging with some kind of UV/IR cut filter with one of the OSC offerings, unless, of course you're specifically doing something involving those wavelengths.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I'm learning that as I dive deeper into this. Though I'm also learning that when using these OSC dual-band filters the fact that the camera sensor allows in UV or IR is a moot point because the dual band filters don't. I'm starting to think in layers, with the sensor as the base layer that defines the maximum range of light that can be received, and the Bayer Matix (and any UVIR filtering done there) is the next layer for OSC, followed by any filters put into the optical train. Similar for Mono, but without the Bayey Matrix. What have you been doing for the 294MM Pro in terms of camera selection? I'm about to make a QE curve for that camera because there doesn't seem to be one currently.

    • @JonnyBravo0311
      @JonnyBravo0311 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JethroXP for the camera, I choose the IMX492 (that's the sensor in the 294MM).

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JonnyBravo0311 Lol, and here I thought I was suffering from Dyslexia :-) So ZWO decides to reverse the numerical order of the sensor name for their brand name? That threw me for a loop. So it's already in there, no need for me to make my own. Thanks!
      Actually, looking at the Sony IMX492 curve in SPCC and the ASI294MM Curve on the ZWO website, they look very different. I found thread on CloudyNights where the curve of a IMX492 in a QHY294M was measured at a university and it more closely matches the one in SPCC. Sourcing good data is hard. Garbage in, garbage out.

    • @JonnyBravo0311
      @JonnyBravo0311 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JethroXP the naming convention is on Sony... they produced the IMX294 (which is the color version) and the IMX492 (mono). ZWO had released the ASI294MC first, based on the sensor ID.
      To be honest, I don't understand ZWO's naming conventions. In some cases they make perfect sense. ASI533 has the IMX533. ASI183 has the IMX183. ASI2600? Yeah... that's got the IMX571. ASI6200? IMX455. QHY does the same weirdness, too. Because why _wouldn't_ you name your IMX571-based camera the 268? Totally works :P

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonnyBravo0311 Gotcha. I think their naming has evolved. The 2600 is a 26MP camera while the 6200 is 62MP camera. Maybe they learned their lesson after the 294/492 thing ;-)

  • @willemwitteveen8374
    @willemwitteveen8374 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am getting an error when importing the CSV files into PixInsight
    *** Error: Expected comma separator (line #1): /Volumes/Astro/Astro/CSV Files SPCC Filters/PixInsight SPCC Custom Filters/._Sony-CMOS-G-UVIRcut-_-IDAS-NBZ-UHS.csv

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you trying to import multiple and that's the only one failing? I just tried again and they all worked for me. Maybe try downloading that one again? Possibly got corrupted during the download? You could also open the file in any text editor like notepad to see if it contains comma separated values or if it's empty?

  • @williamshaw9950
    @williamshaw9950 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pixinsight has changed it all with the latest builds and there is now a separate Filter Manager. Can't get that working so far..

  • @michaelclem3339
    @michaelclem3339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I am using the Antlia ALT, do I put it in just red and blue? Or do I put it in green also, even though it's a Ha/OIII filter @jasoncoon?

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It goes in all three because your OSC is sensitive in all three colors. If fact if you look at the Antlia curves in the curve explorer you’ll notice you actually still get some red even from the green curve.

    • @michaelclem3339
      @michaelclem3339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JethroXP thanks. That's what I figured. Appreciate it!

    • @michaelclem3339
      @michaelclem3339 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JethroXP sorry to bother you again, just one more question. Is the new Antlia Tri Band RGB Ultra filter in the download catalog?

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelclem3339 Not currently, but I just found the transmission curve for it so I can create it and add it later today. I'll comment here again when it's available.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelclem3339 Ok, its created and available in the file share now.

  • @houstonderk
    @houstonderk ปีที่แล้ว

    Have any idea about this error? I made a csv file for the fringe killer filter and when opening in filter management I get this error.
    Error: expected type=filter, got 'filter,,,,,,,'

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      This is what the first three lines of the CSV file for the Antlia ALP-T look like, yours should be similar
      type,"filter"
      name,"Antlia ALP-T"
      channel,"PAN"

    • @houstonderk
      @houstonderk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JethroXP I took the csv from the baader skyglow filter so those first 3 lines are like that but not with the apostrophes. It doesn't have to contain everything from 314-795 does it?

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@houstonderkNo, the 314-795 is the data portion, that should be unique to your filter. I do think quote marks (not apostrophes) are required for the portion after the comma for each line.

    • @houstonderk
      @houstonderk ปีที่แล้ว

      Would you happen to take payment to make one for the baader fringe killer filter? I just can't seem to get it to submit properly. It's being used in place of the B filter but with the uv/or cut lens on a 2600mm.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@houstonderkPayment not necessary. If you can point me to a link for the light transmission chart for the filter I'd be happy to make it.

  • @cosmicbackyard_denmarkrene3273
    @cosmicbackyard_denmarkrene3273 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello.... I cant find the Radian ultra filter in the list in Pixinsight... But is there in the csv file??

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      There is! Look in the link in the description and you'll find it there.

    • @cosmicbackyard_denmarkrene3273
      @cosmicbackyard_denmarkrene3273 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JethroXP yes i Can see it in your Excel file - but not in the drop Down in pixinsght after installion. I Can see antlia quadband

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cosmicbackyard_denmarkrene3273 Watch the video. I explain how to load them, and then how to use the Curve Explorer to make your own. The Raidan Triad filers will show up as PAN filters in the Curve explorer, you then merge those with the appropriate R, G, and B curves for your camera (likely Sony CMOS UVIRcut) and that makes the filters that show up in the drop down.

  • @adymanser6447
    @adymanser6447 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Jason, I use an Altair 26c camera with the Altair dual band 4NM filter. What would you be able to recommend is best for me, thank you in advance, Ady.

    • @adymanser6447
      @adymanser6447 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JethroXP Hi, sorry but i don’t have that camera so no wiser.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adymanser6447 Sorry, those replies must have seemed very out-of-context, I meant those for Jonny Bravo in response to his question.

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      The Altair 26C uses the same Sony Sensor as the ASI2600MC Pro, so that will match up nicely with the Sony Color CMOS UVIRcut curves (R, G, and B) in SPCC, however I can't find a transmission curve for that filter. At 4nm it fall just between the Antlia ALP-T (5nm) and the Optolong L-Ultimate (3nm). If you can find a transmission curve chart for it I'd be happy to make a filter in SPCC, but until then I'd recommend using the Antlia ALP-T as a good stand-in for it.

    • @adymanser6447
      @adymanser6447 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JethroXP I was more confused than ever lol. Good call, I have a report for my filter hopefully this can help but I could not put the image on here. So I’ve put it on Pixinsight for beginners page, hope that helps..

    • @JethroXP
      @JethroXP  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adymanser6447 If you can get a nice straight-on photo, nice and flat, I can probably work with that. And I've got a thread on this in the PixInsight for Begginers group on FB, so you can post the image there.