How Do Indonesians Feel About The LGBTQ+? | ASIAN BOSS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2019
- It’s June, which means it’s Pride Month for the LGBTQ+ community. However, one Indonesian former police officer probably won’t be celebrating because this Central Javanese police officer of ten years said he got fired for being gay. Local police then claimed he failed to execute his duties as a police officer, which includes adhering to religious norms and codes of decency. So how do ordinary Indonesians feel about this incident and how do they perceive people in the LGBTQ community in general? We hit the streets of Jakarta to find out.
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Interviewer: Are you tolerating the LGBTQ+ community ?
Indonesian: Yes'nt
Fathan Al Azka i swear this is the funniest comment ever SJAKDJAKSJ
Exactly
Awokawokwokwowokwk
lmao nice
Hahahahahah
me : *is indonesian*
also me : *reads the whole english sub*
cookies and dream LAMAO
SAME GIRL
tru
IF THIS ISN'T ME
Same lol
Lgbt in usa : pride
Lgbt in indonesian : memes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
America: support lgbt
Indonesia: *"WE DON'T DO THAT HERE"*
*"AND WE'LL NEVER WILL DO THAT HERE"*
@@nawalghozali1271 coz it compromises your hypocrisy. LGBT is an anti-hypocrisy power.
@@adrianwakeisland4710 Kinda ironic the fact you say that.
@@nawalghozali1271 what irony is that? Kindly explain, HYPOCRITE! You know, we have no respect to all people like you!
@@adrianwakeisland4710 You are ironically being a hypocrite here.
Meanwhile Yaoi is really popular in Indonesia
(It’s 3k likes now wtf. I feel so honored )
"They hate gay people but at the same time they love gay ero fictions"
The irony is real here
The way they fetishsize gays for your the own pleasure but are against when it comes to real life just sickens me
*cough cough* the fujoshis *cough*
Ah and those K-pop shipping
*CoUgh* KpOp ShIps *CoUgh*
AB : are indonesian accept lgbt within society?
Indonesian : *well yes but actually no*
*confusion of da highest orda*
Tolerate but can not be accepted
No need to confuse, that's your choice, but no need tell it or declare to public. That's it
*Close the screendoor, aww you're letting in all the gays* It's a strange place indeed.
It's hard one, I'm indonesian, people here have mixed opinion about it. For me I'm againts it but not anti about it, i have friend who gay but yeah i'm not discriminate him or either support him bcs i see it as privacy, so i tolerate him with his sexuality and he respect me as a person with religion. As long as the lgbt didnt force me to accept them that i have to to join them, i'm alright with them. Because theres some other lgbt who wanted to be respected but expect us to join them and speak ill about us follow our religion rule, saying that we're not open minded even tho we already tolerate and respect them. About country law tho that is hardest one
I feel like the conclusion this video brings is Indonesia, though a muslim country, is libertarian enough to respect those they do not agree with. The issue is polarization; you are either pro-lgbt or anti-lgbt, we need a word that can bridge the gap where you may not support or accept the lifestyle due to your personal beliefs, but you respect the individual and their choices in their lives.
Good point. I never thought of that aspect. How about "neutral-LGBT+"
This is exactly how it needs to be in the U.S. In America, liberal-leaning people think that if you're not pro-LGBT or openly supportive, then you're LGBT-phobic. But on the other hand, conservative-leaning people are so anti-LGBT, that they wanna take away their rights, like marriage, etc. Neither viewpoint is okay. People are allowed to have whatever personal and religious views they want about the community, whether they think it's a sin or not. At the same time though, those people need to respect LGBT people and their choices, and realize that they are people who deserve to live their lives. LGBT also need to respect those people's choices/beliefs as well, and realize that everyone who doesn't openly support them isn't against them. It's all about respect. And respect ≠ agreeing with viewpoints.
A very nuanced view which often flies off when you are polarised. Loved the comment.
I beg to differ. Have any of you guys ever hear a news about a year ago that thounsands (you read it right, thounsands, not just ten or hundreds) Indonesians sent threatened massages and pictures of LGBTQ who were slayed in their country to a Thai gay couple and their parents/relatives along with the wedding photographer just because they married in TH, under Thai custom? Nothing (repeat -- nothing) related to Indonesian, both people and their culture, at all. If you haven't heard the news, google and read it for yourselves before you judge. People "act" in front of camera due to manner and their image in the eyes of others. Not just Indonesian but all. However what they do esp. where they think nobody watch them like the net is when their true color show. Those who have no willing to harm anybody at all will do no harm to anybody even on the net because it's their nature. Their way of thinking. Their mindset. On the contrary those who want to do something but can not do that in the real world due to whatever contraint, the net is where they will do what they want. Something they always hide under their masks.
@@bend.6091 80% of the country is Muslim, it is the 4th largest country on earth. Thousands may have spoken with poison, but how many millions kept quiet? Much of Indonesia is connected to the internet and ASEAN news is something we consume readily. I appreciate the perspective, though I feel inclined to comment there is a sampling bias in this circumstance
it’s so weird and wrong that they think it’s a choice to be lgbt. if being lgbt means having no rights, being discriminated, bullied and disappointing your family then i believe no one would choose to be lgbt. but it’s not a choice!
edit: apparently homophobes don’t understand or don’t want to understand but the point is: being gay (or lgbt in general) is not a choice, BUT being in a gay relationship and coming out IS a choice. of course everyone can choose to be in whatever relationship they want, gay people can choose to be in straight relationships (but it’d be the same as if straight people were in gay relationships - they won’t be truly happy because no one can be truly happy if they’re not true to themselves), they can also choose to be closeted or open about their sexuality, and they can also choose to “resist” their gay thoughts. everyone is free to choose what they do in their life. but people can’t choose their sexuality. they CAN lie to themselves and say that they’re straight even if they’re not. just like straight people can say they’re gay and choose to be in gay relationships. and yes, of course there are people who were confused at some point and in the end they realized they’re straight. it means they were always straight, not that they “were gay and turned straight”. also bisexual people exist so if someone was in a gay relationship and now they’re in a straight relationship it doesn’t mean they “were gay and turned straight”, they’re just bisexual.
it’s kind of worrying how so many homophobes are this highly invested in lgbt people’s lives. believe me, if you mind your own business, work and focus on yourself instead of others and let people love whoever they want, your life will be so much better🙏
Well said!!
@Reido Denor being part of the LGBT isn't a choice coz who who in the world would pick to be oppressed and discriminated all the time.
@Reido Denor ofc it is. Being LGBT is some kind of self consciousness. It's like what your heart tells you too, and it really is hard/impossible to change since it's from him/her-self, and they may have gone through it for a long time till adult ages. It is more to his/her own way from the beginning and the becomes their main line, they can't change that line immediately.
@Reido Denor its natural.. nature of god creat them cause they equilibrate the society .. they give thé yin into thé young and the young into thé yin ☯
What do you expect from this Islamic country even though we know they are a country of laws
me, an indonesian, reading the title: oh no
Ahahahh
Same
I mean, makes sense, I would too. I'm only half Indonesian though
Exactly, what a shame :(
Me, an Indonesian, has expected the answers outcome, and so not actually interested to watch the video, and just looking on the comments. 😅
1:21 : oh finally a great answer
1:28 : *suprised pikachu face*
KKDJDKD
Wtf. I cracked up on that 😁😁😁😁😁
HAHAAHAHAHAH
😭😭😭😭😭😭
That really took a dark turn holy-
The translation is so good! And the guy who interviewed the locals, is he also local? Cuz his accent was great. And thank you for not just going to Bali lol most Indos aren't like the Balinese.
Makasih banget untk interview ini ya. Topic yg penting banget nih
I mean I know that Indonesia is really sensitive toward the LGBTQ community and also this country is a religious country but the think I am confused is why do they make the ppl who has different sexuality their lifestyle? Like example a girl is a lesbian and all their friend get away or don't want to be her friend just bcs she is lesbian? I don't think its all about the negative side about ppl being lesbian. Bcs we could always look at the positive side and not always about their sexual orientation !!
PS I rlly like how the girl in the red jacket and glasses explained about LGBTQ and how we should treat them ^^
Their country,their rules.If you don't like it then F the hell off
Why i read the damn subtitles when my first language is indonesia 🤣🤣🤣
buat membandingkan 😂😂
So do I 😆
Lmao same lolol
Hahaha,bener
Lol!! must be one of your habits?
when you said Indonesians, i hope you wouldn't only interview Jakartans.
True
Coba di aceh, auto rajam berjamaah
@@okasugawa4907 HAHAHA HA
@@okasugawa4907 AND I OOP
Same thing with India, they only conduct their interviews ( majority of them) in Mumbai
As an Indonesian i actually just respect their life and choices. But sometimes there are lgbt people who force me to support them while theyre not respecting my belief and choices. One thing they need to realize that, if we are not supporting them that doesnt mean we are against them🙁
Who's forcing their beliefs on you? I hear those alot like how are gay people forcing anything on people
@@Nick-xe4yg Forcing anything on people,,, in what way, they force you to become lgbt members like them? Are lgbt force you to become like them as wajib as sunat in islam?
Facts bro,im not indonesian but I'm Christian,I also don't support them,I'm like I don't support it but it doesn't necessarily mean I don't like 😞 like,so you're homophobic,like bruh😐it's SO aFacts bro,although I'm Christian,I also don't support them,I'm like I don't support it but it doesn't necessarily mean I don't like em,they're like,so you're homophobic,like bruh😐it's SO annoying,also so Chad of you😎,also so Chad of you😎
Hmm,also,I've just had in mind,how is it living there,knowing that the people are just as religious many years ago,living in a 1st world leaves rarely any,especially at young age,bet its nice,Indonesia looks cool in my opinion 👍 I really liked what one of the men said,he said yeah although it's wrong we shouldn't like necessarily bully them,cause in the end their our brothers and sisters
@@adrianwakeisland4710 But "sunat" are only applied to Muslims So, if you are not a Muslim, "sunat" is not obligatory
Honestly, as a Malaysian, its your choice. Not mine. I’m just here.. h e r e (*slowly fades away*)
The comment section is filled with so many accepting Indonesians that I might never even meet irl :(
I feel you sis👌
@@royalclown1360 imma bro lol
@@derpedfox im a bro too lmao,sorry assuming ur gender
@@royalclown1360 lol iz ok
instead accept that they're actually don't care as long you not do vulgar things and try legalize your relationship
Person: **is gay**
The Indonesian Government: *_ding dong your sexuality is wrong_*
Well not illegal atlease!
ikr!! i feel so sad for the people who are gay/lesbian/bi/pan/asexual😭😭 they don't deserve all of these
yeah ikr, there's one cop who got caught that he's gay, and the government putting him into a spiritual counseling
@@bodyody1365 yes, it pisses me off so much, i feel pity to them, such a shame that my country is like this, lets hope in the future, the youth could change this and make indonesia a better place, a place where we could accept humanity more, instead of using religion as a shield, because i see some religious people that actually respects them, even tho im not religious, a place where the people different from us could be loved, respected, and accepted too
Your DING DONG just Lost......
🙊🙊😆
I never knew indonisians were this smart like no joke I wanna badly visit indonisia now!
Respect from Afghanistan 🇦🇫
Homosexuality is completely acceptable.
@@xavierlauzac5922 say this to your parents
@@zaiikim01 ???
@@xavierlauzac5922 He means say "homosexuality is completely acceptable" to your parents
@@somebodyontheinternet7743 okay, so?
2:32 THAT'S THE POINT.
How about asexual beings?!
@@adrianwakeisland4710 According to him they dont exist
i really like how indonesian speak their own language its seems like their rapping because of the word pronunciation... like its super fast
I think it's cause our words are easy to pronounce and we sometimes make them even easier to. And unlike some languages, the lenght and stress on the words don't affect the meaning. So we can speak fast
they're only seem fast because most words in indonesian have 2 or more syllables.
There is one time an old Dutch couple thought me and my wife were Spanish because of how fast we talked in Indonesian for their hearing.
Even I'm Indonesian, I can't speak fast and cant speak my local language fluently :^
because Indonesian language is unifying language because Indonesia has many different languages and accents....peoples their interviewed in this video their talk without their region accent😂
If you interview in different province for example aceh and bali. You will find different answer.
Fiana W yah like 180degree hahahaha
Aceh would really say "NO!" But Bali might say "well yeahhh..."
did you just suggest aceh for talking about lgbt?
Lmao 😂
I guess hindus in Bali must be tolerant
This actually makes me sad :< I'm Filipino and I have an Indonesian friend who is a part of LGBT+, he said that he's so scared to tell his close friends there that he is gay, because they might treat him differently after he confesses. How I wish they'll accept him for who he is. Here in the Philippines, most people love LGBT+ people even though most of us are Catholics. We accept LGBT+ people because they are being true to themselves, and they're not hurting anyone anyway. To all Indonesians who's part of the LGBT+, we truly love you for who you are. If your own people won't accept you, we'll welcome you with open arms and warm hugs. ❤️❤️❤️
True we accept gay people for the most part in the Philippines💜
Ty! As indonesian bisexual this really makes me happy!!!
AS INDONESIAN MUSLIM IM NOT HATE HUMAN/PEOPLE LGBT, I JUST DISAGREE WITH LGBT IDEA BEING MY LIFE STYLE. .. SORRY FOR CAPSLOCK ALL SENTENCES
As muslim i dont agree with LGBT but im not hate people of LGBT. I just disagree with the ideological of LGBT. I still can social with LGBT people, but im not agree if LGBT being my life style. Once again i say, as indonesian muslim im not agree with LGBT idea, but IM NOT HATE people/human that did LGBT. Upset? Yes i feel upset if my closed person is LGBT. But whatever it is, he/she still being my friend/family. I will still accepted them and hope they cured (sorry if this kind of thinking is different with u). Even if they not cure i will still treat them as i treat them before LGBT. I dont care if people in the world bully my country for not LGBT allow in our country. Its a norm of my country. And i hope it will be continue this way
@@justawholedumb611 it's like saying we don't hate muslims but we disagree muslim way of life and islamic ideology.
I don't care if they're gay, lesbians, etc. But please, don't spread LGBT to younger kids, they're still innocent and force people to "accept" LGBT
Don't worry. No one force your kids to become an lgbt. That's not like male genital mutilation called sunat force unto muslim boys. Sunat is more dangerous than lgbt. Lgbt is just an identity. If you scare that lgbt influence your kids, it proves how insecure you are. Being lgbt is from individual's self, not from lgbt's influence or coercion to become an lgbt. If you think lgbt force the kids to become like them, you are looks like racist whites who think anti-racist whites and non-whites force the white children to become non-white and culturally non-white.
@@adrianwakeisland4710 but circumcision are also practiced by Judaism. So, it means that Jewish children were forced to circumcized?
@@adrianwakeisland4710 honestly, if my child identified himself as a gay. I would support him
Support him to the right path (becoming straight again)
@@adrianwakeisland4710 dude, there's no point of replying someone who has a different opinion than yours. You should totally leave them alone and have a good life on Wake Island
@@indonesianguy7501 Probably, as wajib as Muslim. But now, more and more Jews not required their sons to be circumcised. Thanks for their awareness and open-mindedness.
"Indonesian people are a bit uneasy with LGBT".
That's an understatement.
Yes. I think that whole 'caning' thing gives them away...
its the same situation in most of Asia and Africa. Only western world are ok if you exclude parts of eastern Europe.
@@kevabelle3462 thats only in aceh
@@Beyonder1987 parts? But i thought the whole eastern europe bans LGBT.. especially Russia
@@ReikiMaulana some places are a little better
Try this interview in Aceh
🤣
99.99% hate speech
I've seen people getting punished and tortured there because of their sexuality there. So yeah, thankfully they didn't interview there but I think it would be interesting to see how they view LGBTQ+ there
@@sensen9909 ga juga
Nanti mereka yang ngomong aku nya yang sakit hati
@@sensen9909 Orang tdk setuju dan mengutarakan pendapat bukan berarti itu hate speech. Ngerti gak arti hate speech 😒
Nobody:
Literally No one:
Not even a single soul:
Me: understands Indonesia
also me: reads the subs
Indonesians really hate LGBT but they don't hate the people who do it. This happens in all religions, cultures, other aspects. Indonesia will still be Indonesia, And they will always ban LGBT
Same as U S.A., U.K., all EU member countries and all Latin American countries hate non-white race but they don't it to the people? Lgbt banned in all religions? Are you the followers of all religions in the whole World at the same time? Did you really know deeply the teachings of ALL religions Worldwide, especially all religions that existed in the whole Indonesia? What Indonesia still be Indonesia, being the most sexually hypocrite country forever?
We really know who bans lgbt and NOT ALL RELIGIONS!
@@adrianwakeisland4710 ga capek cari muka terus?
@@jajaddono1278 dia jadi penghuni abadi kolom komen video ini bang.
@@jajaddono1278 dia emang kaya gitu, jilat terus LGBT
Sedih banget. Sbnarnya sy ingin kembali ke Indo, tp sy merasakan tdk safe. 😢
Indonesian people : "ya gitu dah"....
simple answer :)
used when ur so speechless :')
We are indonesian, people who life without LGBT for long time, when u go to east of indonesia u will see some of indonesia who do not know about technology, money, glamour lifestyle, people there so traditional, so natural and never know about LGBT, there is no people who born as LGBT, its side effect of modern lifestyle.
People here talk about happiness relationship between LGBT, but they don't know, Happiness come from sacrifice, it's already happen for long time in indonesia, we indonesian life with control our ego, passion, lust and other
Couse God always fair
Sex is lust,
It's not happiness, it's pleasure
When u over pleasure of sex, God give u AIDS
So stop using human rights for pleasure, that god damn LGBT must remove their ego of lust, passion of sex and go back to their nature and tradition being true of indonesian.
@@daus9s223
Not saying I don't respect ur religion
But watch the video about the Ted talk "What the Quran says about woman clothes" (I think it's called)
U will understand that the origin of every religion it's on the beginning accepting of every individual so it can grow. And then, people who are in power corrupt it, and change it according to their own beliefs or wants, and then it stops being the accepting and open option it was before...
@@uwuwu4937 Antara speechless sama males mikir
@@haruhisuzumiya2400 not that simple
Even though I'm 0 percent gay, this makes me pretty sad.
Me too am really upset
@Elestra Yuhu if that happens, would be concider a cult
Me too but don't worry you'll get used to it. It's endless
I'm not against LGBT just neutral
Stop being a racist. You Islamphobic.(sarcasm)
Well u can plot out a world map today, of countries where majority of the people who think hat religion is important. You start seeing a pattern. The distinction b/w the 1st world vs the 3rd world. You will see that.
is it a little sad to see that lgbts + are often seen as something that one chooses to be, dear, if i could choose, why would i want to be discriminated against and insulted? i am brazilian and here we see many people with this kind of thinking too, but still yes we often see these people being supported and accepted!
@@KucingGemukSekalino it makes u stupid 😂 for thinking that way
😢they think that we chose to be lgbt. What kind of person would choose to be damned and shunned from the world. How stupid to think that way. But also for some lgbt people it’s not good to force people to support we still have to respect their religion and shouldn’t label them as homophobic.
meanwhile in thailand and philippines: 💅
I wish I spawned in Thailand... I hate my country.
@@criesinpoor1725 where are you from
Asia, to be more specific Indonesia
@@ok0123lol lmao that sucks 🤪
@@criesinpoor1725Now , you can go to Thai bro !! 😄
“As far as i know, it can be cured”
Idk this statement pisses me off.
Yes me too
I've heard that a lot of times and it's always as annoying...
She meant treatment in Islamic majority countries , mob comes at 11pm , then "Cure" starts
Yes really infuriating
me too
Amazing how religion influences your brain. Indonesia is beautiful but I would never live in a country like that. Good luck.
Indonesians are the most wonderful and kindest people i've met in my life but their brains got retarded because of religion.
Okay look, I will put it simply for foreigners or other LGBTQ community members. We don't hate you and want you destroyed, but the main point is it conflict against the majority's customs, cultures, and beliefs. If you want to visit here by all means, welcome! But DO NOT EVER BRING OR SHOVE YOUR VALUES, CUSTOMS, AND BELIEFS HERE because it will cause conflict for EVERYONE including yourself. Our laws do not recognise your beliefs and views which is why your rights will be challenged here. Personally, if I have any power, I would like help all LGBTQ community in our republic to change nationalities and migrate into a LGBTQ-friendly country.
How moronic are you. Being an lgbt is not a belief! My god!
@@karelingabonwhy are you always running away from me brooo🤣🤣
@@karelingabondid you said “my god”? Do you have a religion?🤣🤣
Your country needs to stop being so oppressive to lgbt. These customs and values are not acceptable because they are a universal human rights violation. Religion is no excuse to be intolerant and not understanding.
@ 1:21 she had me in the first half I ain’t gonna lie
Erna Bajric samme
Lol!
@Erna Bajric theres nothing relevant with religion, its called opinion. Idiot
@Erna Bajric yea cuz it's a taboo hun, looked I'm a Muslim mkay? I used to hate LQBTQ+ communities bcs that's what people (mostly older ppl) tell me to do.
But seeing them in real life is just eye opening, even tough in my religion it's a taboo, I realize that this ppl weren't bothering us in the first place, and I think like that cuz I'm stupid, so my bad.
And I comment not to shame you or anyone fyi, I'm just giving my opinion.
I *really* thought this video wouldn't be that bad until she said "As far as I know, it can be cured." The only virtuous interviewee was the lady with the mask.
Fun game: drink air putih everytime they say "ya gitu"
Auto kembung
Sama "kayak"
Sama 'ya karna'
Or "karna"
Off topic but their language is so relaxing to hear
thank you so much for your work Assian Boss!!!
She: I dont see anything wrong with him. It's his own sexual preference...
Me: 🥰
She: ...As far as I know, it can be cured.
Me: 🗿
Edit: 1'7 likes lol thanks ♡
Angelo rock time
Well she said as far as she knows, so that’s what they’ve been telling her that can happen
Well there are ex gay/ ex trans people out there so technically people CAN change lol
LMAO ME
@@spicymami153 what about sperm donors?? Some couples I know do that.
Fun facts:
-indonesia has transgender public figure that called "bunda (madame) Dorce"
- there is bugis ethnic in Indonesia that recognize 5 type of gender , men, women, calalai (women that express themselves as masculine figure), cabalai(men that express themselves as feminine figure), bissu (non-binary, asexual person)
Indonesia is so big and diverse that interviewing someone in one region can't represent it as a whole. They need to interview every region, from Aceh to Papua to get fair answer
same with dayak malaysia/indonesia.
That was the real color of Indonesian culture until religion starts to be misused to hate on things that some people dont like or even understand
Many of our native cultures naturally accept these concepts but people misused God’s words to turn the public against LGBT. It’s sad.
Dorce itu Khusna tolol
If you watch this while you are lgbtqi, it’s hard to not just lay your phone down and stare at the ceiling
I hate how my country take religions way too seriously, if they want to break the law, then let them be. Why do we care anyways? Religion is just beliefs. We are all humans and humans don’t usually come to the world perfectly, some have conditions, disorders and sickness. We cant tell them to be straight, they wanted to be that way so leave them alone. Good thing my city in Indonesia doesn’t really care that much about the LGBTQ community, I’m just mad at my own country.
"They wanted to be that way"
it's not a choice.
Common dude, do you wan't if you die and god send you to the hell? After all, god is already making 2 gender!
Sorry for my bad english T^T
@@freiyadhanisa7080 how idiot you are! Lu paling ngakak!
the girl with the headscarf did so well until she said ''I think it can be cured''...
Yeah, I had hope for her until she said that. Then I lost that hope
Ikr you can't cure it. That's the dumbest thing I heard, she probably heared that from China and think that it's so amazing.
She said ‘as far as i know’
@@poeticallydamaged8372 i'm not sure how that's supposed to make it better...
YES I KNOW RIGHT
Before watching this I already know I'm gonna be disappointed but not surprised
Our society is not the same as yours.
Have u been to america lol? Some ppl r still extremely anti lgbtq. Less than 10 yrs ago it was still illegal to marry from the same sex. Things will change slowly n i hope everybody treats everbody as humans w emotions in the end
Hera k at least in America gays don't get stoned
@dd dd exactly
@dd dd because they are humans and other peoples opinions can't decide weather they are gonna get humsn rights or not & do you even know about human rights? I don't think you have any idea what Human rights are.
나는 사람들이 동성애를 혐오하는 것이 얼마나 자연스러운지 결코 이해하지 못한다.
The same for the people to be racist, sexist, xenophobic and linguicist (the one who discriminate based on language, especially the one who discriminate anyone who cannot able to speak English).
@@adrianwakeisland4710 that’s not right, 게이도 인간이기 때문에, 한국에서도 동성애 혐오증이 있지만 인도네시아에서는 더 나쁘다는 것을 몰랐다.. 😓
@@kimjia-wi1ye Are you an indonesian?
that's why you study religion, so you know what sin is, in your country you probably don't understand what sin is, you just like drinking alcohol every day, Lol
We were educated like this since a kid. Also bc it's a religious country. As long as nobody give them a new view, they will think like this. I was also in the same opinion with them until i move to international school and my classmates try to explained it to me.
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How
Good for you 🥰🥺 it's the Abrahamic religious crap that brain washes people to be bigots.
Nah, I'm not a religious guy, but i think GAY is Disgusting.
"as far as I know, it can be cured"
they still trying to pray the gay away in some places apparently
Praying away the gay or beating them in public for being gay. Sigh.
Hell many of them think LGBTQ+ is the cause of frigging EARTHQUAKES that happened this year.... They don't listen when someone tells them the science behind natural disasters..
@@diancla2757 dont say 'many of them', stop representing the majority of people with that stupid one sided statement
@@FadazMada I'm not saying every religious person is a big homophobe but religious people grow up that being gay is wrong or that it's evil or a sickness etc , that's the truth.
Both side think they're illnesses. This side treat the psychological side. On the opposite side, they think its physical illnesses. In the case of trans illnesses you get doctors perform surgery, give medication and hormones to treat the wrong gender. It's pure capitalism from the dark side of the medical industry if you ask me.
Interviewer : How is LGBT treated in Indonesia?
People: Okay fine but NO
Indonesian here, just realized I'm trans. I'm currently living in Japan and want to start doing hormone therapy soon, but this video is freaking me out. I don't think I'll be able to stay in my home country anymore.
Oh dear don't ever come back. This country is so scary :" i WISH i can be you, escape from this country :"
@@markruffus6744 we rather stay in a country that ban sexual predators, than living with people that thirst on sex
@@markruffus6744
You just thought everyone (250 million people) from Indonesia hates LGBT because 4 Indonesians said it.
And we also don’t give a damn about other people’s opinion.
@@kronkurr9737 same here
@@markruffus6744 me too, im a muslim and always wanted to live somewhere else but I can’t. I have to be grateful, because i can still live, eat and have a roof on my top
But yea, sorry if you’re discriminated for being lgbt. You should move to bali because they’re hindu
i was born tht way ... n im a religious person. till now im confused. n not married yet. should i married? how do you think my wife feelings when she knew all of tht? don't u think it's better to let her find someone better? n how about me? why must me born tht way .. not my dad. my friends. my aunty? why not u just born that way? .. just realise i hv interest to man since 5y/o . so how do u react to it? some said, its a test to me. so it's a test for my entire life? how sad im being born with ...
Man, i know this is late comment but, try to forgive yourself try to learn how to accept yourself. Love yourself because in the end of the day, only you are the one who understand yourself. I said this because i have the condition as you, i'm gay living in a conservative family and society. Those fools always trying to hurt and disrespect gay people.
Most of Indonesian Men's thinking about gay: "It's actually ok, but if they into me, I'm gonna be mad."
They should just learn to say "Sorry, I'm not interested" politely.
@bonito flakes and i oop-
@bonito flakes trueee
really mad huh :v
@bonito flakes their stupid pride
As an Indonesian, just by reading the title my heart was crushed. I knew the answer right away
Same. But Asian Boss in Indonesia is like that while Asian Boss in other countries talk about beauty standards, people opinion about celebrity X, rtc
Fanny l same... i already know that most of people would definitely talk about religion and also that 5:48 guy is so stupid and dumb
Ikr
Yep.
Ur Mom Gay
As an Indonesian and is apart of the LGBTQ community, it sucks to live like this.
some of them is hiding
Foreign comments : describe their pros and cons
Indonesian comments : feel bad
Reality
Do you think LGBT people in Indonesia feel good about most of those comments in the video? LGBT people are treated vastly better in the west and its difficult for many foreigners to imagine their LGBT friends and family treated that way. Thus the comments.
@raja klana I'll keep advocating for LGBT equality and nothing less, as I have my entire life. Thank you very much. You can do whatever you want in your mosque but legislating second class citizenship for LGBT people is not the job of government. Everyone deserves equality under the law, up to and including same sex marriage.
No churches are forced to perform LGBT marriages. Check again. I am talking about civil legal marriage at the courthouse. Religion does not need to be involved at all.
LGBT people are second class citizens in Indonesia because they can’t legally marry their spouses. Nor is there any discrimination protection for LGBT people. Indonesia has a long way to go to do right by its LGBT citizens. Thailand is a vastly better place to be LGBT and its hard to recommend to LGBT people that they should put their labor and capital to work in a place that clearly doesn’t respect them.
@@exnihilo415 well, I do hear some gay couples in US are adamant on having a church ceremony even though the church didn't believe homosexuality is ok.
And I do find it odd for churches to adopt gays as members, even bringing them to the ministry, even though the Bible warned against homosexuality. I don't know, isn't that a contradiction between the text and the practice?
The clerk that refused to sign marriage license for gays because of her personal belief, imo, is at fault. Because while she do have a different belief, but she, as an employee of the state courthouse, she must also represent the views of the courthouse (which allowed gay marriages).
And wasn't there like a Supreme Court case where a baker refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple, but the couple kept on insisting? I don't know why is that a big deal, cause if I was said baker, I would just make the cake. 💰 is still 💰.
No church in the US is required to officiate marriages they don’t want to officiate. The actual legal marriage comes when you sign the legal marriage license from the state. Everything else is just theatrics.
Plenty of christian Churches do allow gay members and perform same sex marriages because they want to. You’ll need to talk with them individually to see their interpretation of scripture.
Kim Davis was the clerk in question, she did some jail time for not following the law and eventually her office was forced to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples.
Masterpiece cake shop was the Supreme Court case and it didn’t actually issue a broad ruling about wether or not a public business can deny service to gay customers as a class.
The point is that not being able to legally marry is a big deal for a huge number of legal and economic reasons, as is protecting gay people from being fired just for being gay. These are basic civic rights and Indonesia needs to do right by it’s tax paying LGBT citizens.
That striped shirt dude and that flower hijab girl really got on my nerves :)))
Honestly imo they represent *The typical Indonesian people*
Ennareth im indonesian but i support lgbt :)
@@ruthad2736 unfortunately that is true :(
Same here dude
Well they have their own views.
Toleransi memang menghargai perbedaan, tapi tidak untuk penyimpangan
LGBT bukan sebuah penyimpangan. Kalo kamu pikir lgbt itu penyimpangan, nikah dini, pernikahan anak2x, poligamj dan mutilasi namanya sunat adalah penyimpangan juga. Kyk kamu org bule yg sangat rasis selalu pikir org hitam adalah penyimpangan karena ras itu bukan cocok untuk budaya norma negara2x ras bule
@@adrianwakeisland4710 begini kak ada namanya nilai2 moral masyarakat, kalau kamu ke barat poligami akan dianggap ketidaksetaraaan gender tapi di Indonesia afalah wahar seorang suami memiliki 2-3 istri.
Di Barat Prancis mengolok2 agama tdk bertentangan dng nilai2 moral, karena memang 60-70% orang prancis Atheis/agnostik.
Di Indonesia LGBT dianggap tabu, dianggap penyimpangan karena kita percaya itu adalah penyimpangan.
Sesimpel itu.
@@adrianwakeisland4710 LBTQ penyimpangan karena bebal gender lebih dari 2
@@muhammadsyafiimaarif8653 karena kebanyakan rakyat indonesia adalah bodoh dan paling munafik di seluruh dunia.
@@adrianwakeisland4710 lu dibayar berapa bang jadi warior pelangi? nge counter pake bhs inggris biar keren gitu? udah tau penyimpangan kenapa batu banget, ga usah diliat dari sisi agama homosexuality juga ga sehat buat kesehatan
Me as an indonesian that is not muslim but still dont support lgbt:
It's like saying me as a southeast asian and muslim but still don't support muslim, indonesian and javanese. It's like saying I still don't support boys.
You have my respect bro 👍
@@adrianwakeisland4710 are u hating on me..? I dont support lgbt but i still respect it a BIT (i actually dont wanna but i just try to respect it just to not get hate from other people in social media)
@@tubagusbetha ty ✨ :v
@@k4xzyu hating? It sounds like respecting and supporting are synonymous. Saying "don't support" furtherly makes you indonesians more looking hypocrite. It doesn't mean I have an intention to hate you. Just saying the truth. Just saying the truth means I hate you? Is reality truly offensive for you?
What is "support" mean for you if that's different from respecting or not hating them. It's like saying I don't support blacks but I don't hate them. It's like saying I don't support indonesians but it doesn't mean I hate them.
*~Well their point actually they will accept the person but not the attitude~*
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Yeah it's "Yesn't" kinda answer
But I believe that we appreciate LGBT with good behavior.. those who don't promote Nudity etc.
You seriously think that there is pedophilia at Pride parades? How many Pride parades have you been to yourself?
@@exnihilo415 he is just saying that there is that kind of behaviour that exist and unacceptable
Avon isSoCool i agree
@@alifayzan5922 how bout strait people who obviously very openly promote nudity. Surely you don't appreciate them too?
I am actually surprised most of them said that they’ll still accept their children and not disown them
Because they gonna 'turn' them back 😬😬
What do u expect?
I mean, it's a hypothetical question, of course they'd answer ideally. We don't know what they will do if it truly happens.
@@user-ve2gs3vx3z in Islam (Indonesia Version), *Whoever* abandoning their child just because they have a different beliefs will go to Hell without any question in the afterlife.
Just from MY PERSONAL experience, my mother friend is gay but his parent who are pretty much religious Muslims did not abandoning neither hate him. He is a Muslim, and still praying routinely because his parent always guide him to keep praying in whatever your sexuality/beliefs is.
In Indonesia, no matter what religion, *whoever abandoning their child will go to hell.*
Abandoning your child that God _(in religious POV)_ gives means you are abandoning/hating God's gift.
In short: Indonesians parent *who believe in religion* won't abandon/disown their child. Because the Parent are the one who is responsible for every action they made *until they are adults*
One thing I like to share with everyone is that LGBTQ community is the most vulnerable and highly suicidal rate worldwide ( doesn't matter rich or poor family background). I lost my friends due to bullied, the society rejected, neglected and abused caused everyone shutted the door behind them. And another friend of mine is a doctor and disowned by his parent ( he packed up and moved to L.A).
I used to hide my personal preferences and affraid the previous workplace misjudged me. Im currently working at worldwide known children's hospital where I work along with most talented gay doctors, nurses, and medical staffs and all people from different countries, cultures and backgrounds. Have to tell you, im so happy here. People here are very kind and sympathetic to care for sick childrens, not worry about their own personalities being judged.
Houston has the most diversity city in the world, 159 languages speaking and over 90 countries from all around the world. We all learn from each other and enjoy so different type of foods and festivals.
Come to visit Houston and yall will see.
Your problems are not a big deal when you see these kiddos going through.
Final note, do you know why medical system is so advanced caused we shared and exchange the knowledge and working hard to find the cure for all mankind. So we continue education every year, and learn new techniques and share ideas among each other. Worldwide!
Im curious why people still learn the Bibles ( all religions) from 2000 years ago or more but we are currently 21st century and instill the old ideology ?
Bible is man-made and obviously its up to us adapt to our current events and for future. Anyone agrees or disagree?
How you know your medicine is good if nobody ever use it,3000 for ambulance yeah no i would rather crawl there
Also disagree
2000 years ago atleast do some research
Alos who tf talk about crhistian they all muslim and here youa re talk about the bible
Ita like bring dj to funeral
im an indonesian muslim but i still respect it
gws dek
I already know I'm gonna be rolling my eyes continuously but I'mma watch anyway.
Same
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Don't watch n waste ur. Time..jokes on u dude
@@yummymellon4058 I didn't lol, soon as that girl mentioned "AdAm AnD eVe" I noped TF out.
I'm an indonesian and I don't really support lgbt, but it doesn't mean I have to mock them just because I don't support them. They have the rights to live in that lifestyle.
If you mention "Indonesian", don't just interview Jakartans. The perspectives are different in each provinces.
The interviews were mostly done by volunteers. I think they most based in Jakarta? Maybe you can try if you are outside Jakarta because I want to watch more opinions coming from other regions
Bogor
Bogor has a lively gay community or so I heard
Maybe because Jakarta is the capital of the country hence alot of people from different provinces go there, therefore why should you travel all around Indonesia when you can stick to one place
may be Bali how balinese people thinking about lgbt
As an Indonesian I truly don't care and Indonesia IS a religious country after all. That's your own choice. Where you go in the future is on your choice. It's on you.
If not because of the indonesians' sexual hypocrisy, indonesians were never be the religious people at all. Indonesia will never be the religious country at all. Atheist in indonesia is now more than 100%!
The government is to be blamed, bringing religion into politics shouldnt happen in the first place as a result they have a major conservative population, on top of that the education system over in Indonesia isnt that great hence the idea of liberalism in Indonesia is poor
@@knightGunners78 sexual hypocrisy truly contradicts liberalism. No wonder why liberalism is barely stand longer there.
You are right 😅
alasan simpel mengapa LGBTQ+ dilarang di Indonesia : Karena Rakyat Indonesia rata2 beragama semua, sedangkan lgbtq+ melawan hukum alam dan Kodrat manusia sebagai mana mestinya
Makasih atas kemunafikan seksual rakyat indonesia. Kalo tidak akibat kemunafikan seksual rakyat indonesia, kita yakin sih indonesia tak pernah menjadi negara beragama sama sekali dan kita yakin sih semua org2x indonesia adalah ateis eksplisit yg sangat kuat sama sekali. Semua org2x indonesia tidak beragama sama sekali jika tidak akibat kemunafikan seksual mereka.
Semua manusia memang ada beberapa sifat munafik, tp saya blm pernah mendengar yg namanya munafik dalam seksualitas, saya masih tertarik dengan lawan jenis, tidak pernah ada sedikitpun niatan untuk tertarik dengan sesama jenis, karena saya dari kecil sudah di didik dalam agama saya untuk hidup sesuai dengan yg diajarkan agama saya termasuk dalam memilih pasangan hidup, maka dari itu Agama sangat perlu untuk menghindari hal2 yg menyimpang dari kodrat setiap manusia
@@shiroyasha373 kemunafikan seksual adalah adab yg mengklaim porno, kebugilan, hidup lgbt dan pelacuran adalah haram karena itu lawan agama mereka dan budaya mereka tapi nyatanya, masih banyak sih org2x indonesia adalah org2x porno (punya bokep mereka yg telanjang), seseorang pelacur, ngeseks sesama jenis kelamin dan ngeseks luar pernikahan. Kami punya banyak bokep2x seseorang warganegaramu yg pornstar dan pornstar gay! Ngeklaim kalian konservatif tapi padahal kalian pornstar xxx sih!
@@adrianwakeisland4710 gk peduli 😂👆
@@GRRRRH ga peduli artinya kalian adalah rakyat yg paling munafik di seluruh dunia, selamanya. Anjir lo! Ga heran dunia ga bisa hormati kalian.
Well... as Indonesian, my principle in life is simple:
As long as you do not disturb be, I won't disturb you.
I always try to judge people from how they behave to ME!
Same. No matter how pretty you are, if annoyed the hell out of me then GTFO
Well, if you judge people how they judge you and you also meet a person who judge how you behave to them...
This will happen...
That person is behaving good to you but maybe you dont have time caring that person and that person behaving bad to you. Then you dont behave nice to that person. And that person hates you. Eventually the person that tries to behaving good to you becomes the person you hate.
Its like a loop you know
@@arvin6606 Sure, I am okay woth that because If I ever do bad to him and change afterward, that's what I call as Hypocrite.
If somehow there is some misunderstanding, I will ask openly if it is a misunderstanding in some parts.
I can't like everybody, and you have the right not to like me
the simple is the best
Same here... I mean why bother to confront them for their personal life while we don't even know each other and everything they do will have no any effect on us???
As a pure Indonesian I'm more interested in the comments here instead of the content of the video since the answers would be very obvious. The high amount of the negative comments here make me unconsciously say : *First time mates?*
8years old me when I see rainbow 🌈: soo beautiful 🥺
*20 years old me now when i see rainbow🌈 :*
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Are you homophobic?
@@iloveiu4everandever no, he/she is normal
@@iloveiu4everandever yes, and proud
@@Lolok725 proud of being basic🥴
@@iloveiu4everandever hes just normal
Imagine if religious crusades didn't happen. The LGBT+ community wouldn't have to suffer through comments like "it goes against my religion" or "Adam and Eve." People would just let them be as their ancestors did before the endoctrination.
@Soldier368 because of their hypocrisy and bigotry. They keep pretending they hate lgbt but the fact is more and more among them (especially their boys) have sex with several gaymen. We see hundreds of indonesian gay porn!
Me as a Muslim Indonesian: "no"
But as a human being: "they have their own life choices"
So being open minded doesn't mean being supportive:)
Exactly
Exactly, i hate when people think if we don't support them so it's just the same as we hate them. which is actually wrong, being respectful that doesnt mean everything need to be supported. for example, doing a debate, you may not support their opinion because it has different perspective with you, but, eventhough you're different, you must respect their opinion, because it's their right to speak about their opinion. same with this case, Me, Myself, i don't support them, because it againts my religion, we must obey what our religion is lead about. but that doesnt mean they must gettin hate, no. they must be respected and treated as human beings. like us, feelings can not be forced. it's not their fault, because feeling can come by itself.
Absolutely yes! It just like between, " I don't like your behaviour," and " I hate you," Geez.. It's so annoying when someone who immediately point that we're homophobic or conservative.
I appreciate you supporting us but just for your information it's not really a choice, not being rude just statng facts.
P.s: do you think gay people are going to hell?
true. its like it's their own decision, if we even give them advices (to muslim that being among lgbtq+ community) doesn't mean we are forcing them to accept it, we are just telling what islam taught us. it's up to them what they gonna choose because that's why God made us live. to make the choices by our own and find our own way and beliefs. be calling us homophobic because we can't agree with their ways but they're being islamophobic for mocking us for not accepting them while we are just following what our belief is that already existed for thousand of years (islam & Quran). they're seeing in their own perspectives only, sees in our perspectives too. like how they have their own beliefs, so do we.
As an Indonesian, I already expect this channel would made this topic lol
You as Indonesian do you agree with the most of their opinions ?
@Lol umm i prefer adam and steve. haha, joke lang
I am Indonesian, and some of their opinions hurt me. Like how ignorant, uninformed, and overall closed minded most of our society were
@@gameikko2909 lmao ikr
@@nabilayasmine3319 yeah, it's just...
I have some friends that is in LGBTQ+ comunity, and they are some of the most hardworking, kind, selfless, overall amazing people I've ever know, but hearing their story about how unfairly they are treated just hurt my heart.
Indonesian youth is so close minded. I'm shocked to see that much negativity and ignorance. "Cured"? Seriously? Can you cure your eye color? or any genetic heritage? Can you change your biological ethnicity from Indonesian to Russian? No. People need better education.
almost everyone in Indonesia is close minded
I agreed.
Eye colour and gender is different bruh
Its LGBT DNA????
I am Hindu Indonesian also reject LGBT
Mantap bang teman saya juga banyak yang hindu dan mereka juga nolak LGBT
@@xiagm-kemasmfadlic150 Yoi bang karena di kitab agama masing2 sudah ada membahas tentang larangan LGBT ini, bahkan di Hindu Budha perihal LGBT ini hukumnya sangat keras, di zaman kerajaan Majapahit dulu para LGBT ini akan di hukum mati👍
Karena kamu org yg paling munafik seksualnya di seluruh Dunia! Jika tidak karena kemunafikan seksualmu, you never reject LGBT at all. Karena kami sangat tahu sih siapa kamu, siapa kalian!
@@kadekprawira2370 btw, kamu sudah disunat?
@@adrianwakeisland4710 koyok eruh ae sunat Iki Kowe bang🤣wong luar Ojo keminter
I used to read the subs, but then I realize I speak Bahasa...
you speak language?
Yeuu
Me toooooo
OMG i did it to, i don't know but i just like English more, than my own language, lol
@@acut99 it is "Bahasa Indonesia" even in international for Indonesian language, so when she said bahasa she mean Bahasa Indonesia
1:28
Can be cured?
Lady it ain't pneumonia.
I saw a comment from Indonesian, said that homosexuality is a disease and can be cured. I'm dying of laughter when he exactly talked about chromosome and DNA but he kept saying that it can be altered (from woman to man) in case of hermaphrodites
It is a disease of perception and the heart (not functions but feelings).
@@alfredadriansyah1591 if only you can open your mind just as much as you open your mouth
@@ikakarismaputri5970 Your statement is wrong in so many ways.
@@abhiv7279 most of indonesian has closed minded, but for me, its okay for lgbt
I'm a christian and i do believe that lgbt is not something that is allowed in my religion therefore it is bad. But i also believe that we should not push our beliefs to someone else. So for me someone being gay or not doesn't really matter i will treat them the same regardless of what their sexuality. It's really sad to see that in Indonesia, people will shame or even threaten to harass you just because you have your own opinion (you can see this if you sort the comment section to the newest). For me i think the best way to deal with this if you are gay unfortunately you will have a hard time living here and the only thing you can do is move to another country.
And i hope fellow indonesian citizens would understand that even tho we might not agree with other people's ways of thinking we still need to treat them with respect and just let them live their lives.
Indonesians' stubborn characteristic is the main factor why indonesians deserved to be punished by azab for being homophobic like what happened in aceh at dec. 26, 2004, padang at sept. 28, 2009, donggala with palu and sigi at sept. 28, 2018, pasaman at feb. 25 2022, kerusuhan stadium kanjuruhan at oct. 1, 2022 and cianjur at nov. 21, 2022. That's the consequence of their being homophobes, we really very happy and celebrate it every azab hit to that bs god-damned country. Indonesia deserved to be disrespected for being a homophobic country.
@@addon7126 if not because of the sexual hypocrisy and idiocy of iindonesians, ALL INDONESIANS ARE HARDCORE EXPLICIT ATHEISTS, FOREVER AND INDONESIA WOULD NEVER BE A MUSLIM COUNTRY, FOREVER.
Because of what you said, we really very happy and celebrate it for what happened to homophobes in aceh at dec. 26, 2004, padang at sept. 28, 2009, donggala at sept. 28, 2018, pasaman at feb. 25, 2022, kanjuruhan stadium night at oct. 1, 2022 and cianjur at nov. 21, 2022.
Telling us that we keep crying is like a racist white who keep telling the anti-racism whites that they should keep crying for their fight against racism. No wonder why the World disrespect all people like you!
you think the people in the past that spreaded muslim in indo would be happy? NO! gays shouldnt be in indonesia!
Right.
Exactly.
Thank you for your professional journalistic video.
*93% of Indonesians are Against Homosexuality
Meanwhile: Lot of Indo Blinks out there Ships Blackpink Lisa and Jennie. Tf??
The definition of one-sided homophobia.
They fetishized gay relationship for their own satisfaction, but not actually support gay peoples in real life.
Disgusting, if I may say.
shipping people of the same sex doesn't mean you can't be homophobic? In fact y'all are worse. Some of y'all be shipping ppl for your entertainment (might I say, sexually) but be disgusted when y'all actually meet lgbtq+ people. I know people who ship idols together with their own members and be disgusted with actual lgbt people. Bunch of fetishizers. Y'all ship them together so u wont be getting a heartbreak when they turn out to be het dating the opposite sex lol.
@@criesinpoor1725 exactly
Indonesian are so weird. Like they ship people but if it turns out being canon they just go like "ewwh, thats disgusting" :/
One word we describe about Indonesians like those: HYPOCRITES!
what an interesting topic to be informed and pissed off at the same time :)
@rana pipien that's an interesting take. but i think if it's the US, they would be more open-minded about it since lgbtq+ people already have rights there. although there might be still those that are against it
rana pipien it depends on wich religion you have. And btw, fellow hatari fan
@rana pipien simple, we don't need your support.
@rana pipien christianity is also against the lgbt comm btw.
@rana pipien sorry if you misunderstood me, we don't even want your hypothetical support.
Being attracted to the same sex is not the same as acting on it. Being gay is not the default of humanity. My mother dated a woman when I was a child and now she is marrying a man. It is absolutely a choice. Attraction does not equal action.
Being gay is not a choice. You are not a gay or bisexual person so there is not credibility in your claim.
As an Indonesian, I understand these people's point of view since cultural and religious practices here are really strong.
But,
Do they think gay people's lifes a joke?
Them calling gay people disgusting and mentally-ill makes me wanna attack them.
Don't waste your breath.
Some people in this interview trying to be a saint by counting other people sins or mistake.
just a found a kid using gay as insult
@@Gh0styict and???????
I don't care if they don't support LGBTQ+ community, but at least don't hate, mock, or insult them because of their beliefs. I mean, you have your own belief and LGBTQ+ community also have their own belief, why would you force your beliefs on other people? Duh
This has to be top comment
It ain't no belief, belief can be change. And no one hate the LGBTQ people, they just hate the idea of it.
@@jayamustika5938 "belief can change" maksudnya orang lain harus punya _belief_ yg sama kayak lu karena lu yg paling bnr? Dan juga _belief_ bisa berubah? Gapunya pendirian dong wkwkwk
@@blackholle5929 I do see belief is something you can change, being an lgbtq community is more like a sexuality and agenda not a belief that's why I'm confused HSSHH
@@blackholle5929 Though I get her point, it's a belief who they love as it's grew heavily as the strong belief(And of course religion) on indo as 'Muslim'. Though i don't see it as a sin to be honest, even the pope said it himself
Now try this in Bangladesh 😂😂
good luck
Iftekhar Ahmed Sarkar what would Bangladesh people will say?
@@geastariibrahim869 They will probably kill the reporter on the spot lol
@@bloodndestroy no
they would just say they don't support it.
@Ankit Banerjee kichu fanatic ache re vai...
open minded toh ar sobai hoy na
@@bloodndestroy that's really extreme...
and i don't think that what would happened
Here in the Philippines, our society has no problem with LGBT, but most of them (not all) have this kind of "attitude, too much pride and toxic mindset". They are sometimes annoying.
If you have no problem with LGBT why can’t gays get legally married? Why can’t trans women legally marry their husbands or change their legal gender as is commonplace in the west?
@@exnihilo415 ask that to our constitution, same thing with the rest of southeast asia... I am not a law maker so I can't answer your question... btw, southeast asia is far different from the west, so don't compare, cheers
@@brixsumaoang7567 I can and will compare SEAsia to Taiwan where same sex marriage is legal and LGBT people have legal protections for their relationships. It’s a step in the right direction to do right by all our LGBT brothers and sisters across Asia who effectively now have 2nd class citizenship.
@@exnihilo415 what you said in your first comment is "west" then now its taiwan? Taiwan is east asia not southeast asia... I have no idea what you're trying to prove to me. Oh btw, tell your point to the government of the entire southeast asian nations and not on me, coz I have nothing to do with it, thank you.
@@brixsumaoang7567 I’m trying to prove that unless the Philippines legalizes same sex marriage, they do in fact have a problem with LGBT people which is your original assertion. They are systematically discriminating against them, as has been shown. Your failure to realize this fact is, in a small way, perpetuating the problem of second class citizenship for LGBT people.
Hey Asian Boss, can you pls do this interview in India this Pride Month?
Me : Just let them be themselves
My neighbor : *knocking on my door “I think you need an exorcism”
Just in INA, gay need an exorcism 5555
Hahaha when my parents found I am gay when I was 15 years old, they actually try to exorcism me with "ruqiyah" methods
Here I am still liking boy after 6 years.
@@reyviewchannel97 hope you will find your husband.
neighbor : "hayu ruqyah"
So damn true :v
The fact that most don't want punishments involved is promising
@@siddharthshaji3080 says a religious fanatic
@@siddharthshaji3080 oh shut up, our govt are not as bad as you think, youre the only one who think of it that way, indonesians still tolerate it and we have human rights here so gtfo
@@putrii1249 ok fine, i was just giving my opinion chill.
Siddharth Shaji You shouldn’t give your opinion on a matter where facts should be present. I don’t want your opinion on your government, I want to know what your government is actually like.
We still want punishment, just not thrown out of the roof kind of thing. Some rehab center is okay.
You must ask in south Jakarta , they very fluent in English
And tolerant
(I know that because i live in South Jakarta)
Or maybe bali or any region in east Indonesia
i don't think they realize that they will publish it on youtube. and there faces aren't censored at all.
Much better not censored! Less generalization! Censorship furtherly disrespect all indonesians!
Well this is not US, Indonesia won't cancel them, maybe just annoyed
"Misalnya anak mbak tuh...AMIT AMIT YA AMIT AMIT" bilang begitu karna di pelototin mbaknya..duh ngakak
Amit2 juga sih karna kasian anaknya kalo punya ibu kayak mereka
Just ignore me NAH INI😆😆
That's so Indonesian lol. I thought one of them was gonna say "aduh amit2 cabang bayi" 😂
taniamanik2012 iya..atau sambil getok2 benda sama kepala sendiri..aduh amit2 dah amit2😆
"Amit amit ya amit amit" ga ditranslate buat kebaikan indonesya. Wkwkkwkw
And that "Jijik aja gitu geli"
I legit went "But you're not the one dating a girl tho-"
yeah like, they didn't need to imagine😂 if you are not interested then keep it to yourself gurl💅
She whished she was able to 💅
Yeah when they thought gay people will like them
Like gurl and bois, they have preverences👁👄👁
This indonglish language
@@leoleonix9060 Yeah i know? Im from Indonesia-
We don't hate them we don't kill them we respect them
No legal same sex marriage = second class citizenship = lack of respect
@@exnihilo415
Who cares?
@@somebodyontheinternet7743 I do, and millions of others do that care about our LGBT brothers and sisters. Your caring is not required.
@@exnihilo415
Well If u ask me u are asking for too much things in this country.
@@somebodyontheinternet7743 Nah, dozens of countries have legalized same sex marriage and the LGBT people there have benefited greatly from it. Every country needs to do right by her LGBT citizens. Paying first class taxes and getting second class treatment under the law is simply unjust. Every consenting adult should be able to marry their spouse. It makes for a better country.
Malaysia doesn’t support for LGBT too because Malaysia is a Muslim country
I am a Muslim and idc cuz im bisexual its not wrong to be yourself
Coz malaysia is one of the most sexually hypocrite country.
@@adrianwakeisland4710
You keep using the hypocrite. Do you know what it means? If you took a long time to answer this. I'm just gonna say you used a dictionary to find what it means
Checkmate
asian boss, could you make how indonesian reacts to mental illness? as far as i know indonesian society stil not open for those cases, even blaming the one who have it.
or maybe how indonesian reacts to "zonasi".
thx
Up
I wanna know this myself
Yeah I agree. As Indonesian I know people around me just know that people with mental illness are crazy which is dumb af
From what i know, they still not believe Depression as mental illness, they believe that depression coz people is far from religion or God, but well is interesting mind anyway...xd
zonasi? sistem zonasi untuk masuk sekolah kah?
Im Indonesian but I read the whole subtitles just to make sure they translated well. Overall, they did good job, but there is one part they didn't write it though. When the interviewer ask if her future child is lgbt, the interviewer said something close to "hopefully not", but they didn't write it. Im not protest, I just wanna say.
If they write that, Indonesian people will get backlashes from worldwide netizen. It will seem like the reporter has bias himself. But in reality, he just tried to adjust his language with the interviewees.
@@ahmadfauzanbagaskoro7642 backlash? Backlash is the sign of disrespect against those indonesians. No wonder indonesians like all homophobic indonesians deserve to be disrespected and insulted!
@@adrianwakeisland4710 I'm sorry. I don't understand what you're saying.
@@adrianwakeisland4710 setelah liat komen mas yang lain, baru sadar masnya orang Indonesia. Jujur gua gak ngerti yang lo maksud apa 😅😅😅
@@ahmadfauzanbagaskoro7642 karena kamu goblok, itulah sebabnya kamu ga ngerti. Kalo kamu bukan goblok, kamu tak bisa paham bhs inggris sama sekali. Atau, kepalamu omong kosong sih, tanpa otak tetapi taik saja.
I am proud i live there.
Where, in western country or in hell like indonesia?
@@adrianwakeisland4710 brooo cmon, why are you afraid of me? Kangen akutuuu debat sama yang sok main “psikologi”tapi cuma omdo alias omong doang :)
@@adrianwakeisland4710 mana gabisa bedain karma sama azab lagi hahaha, kangen akutu om
@@goofyahh536 sexual hypocrisy as the indo pride.
It's not just Muslims in my opinion who refuse, but there are religions that reject the name like same-sex
Indonesia: we have to accept everyone no matter what
also indonesians: No, lgbtq should nOT EXIST
Cuz Indonesia have more 250.000.000 people and 1.000more island. 34 provinsi. 700 language. 10 religion. That's why they have different opinion.
@@lovekoseungjae2854 i know, im also indonesian but i just dont like how in school its like "ppl are all diff and we should respect them and accept them" but some teachers in school r like "lgbt is a mental illness and they should not exist"
Ikr??? Maybe bcs I spent most of my time on the Internet with foreign people tht I'm more open to LGBT??? Idk... It's like .... I'm a muslim but people sometimes just shove their beliefs into their judgement on people... but then again.. It's their opinion .... sigh.....
@@kinawa2845 same thing. I personally think because I spent quite a lot of the in the internet and being exposured to just the new reality of the world rn, I'm more open minded than a lot of my friends or family members... It's a big factor imo
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