it is logical them being connected through time n space the Tholians i can see communicating to the entity kinda like a bluetooth pairing in words they could have been connected in the past and a relationship between the two after the crystal feeds it sends out a possible energy field the Tholians can process and constant energy in the frequency needed kinda like how we milk cows for milk the Tholians can do the same with the crystals.
@radionoakmont7756 How do you go from “they’re kindred spirits bc they’re both crystalline” to “they can connect to each other via Bluetooth” AND THEN to “Tholians milk them like cows” ??? 😂
1:49 There's honestly something really terrifying about the children's images of the Entity's attack. They give strong cosmic horror vibes and also probably wouldn't feel out of place in some analogue horror series.
What I found scary/odd about those drawings was that the parents decided to pin them up like their kids had just come home from school with their first art project despite the global emergency of the Entity strip mining the whole planet!
It's not known if the entity was even aware that it was consuming other life. It was destroyed before enough communication could be established. It could be a simple case like a whale eating millions of shrimp without even considering it. I believe Picard actually made that comparison. It would've been interesting to establish communication and see how sentient and aware it was. It of course might not even be aware that organic life was actually life, as the only type of life it knew of up until that point was of its own type (which was very different). I tend to think it wasn't actually hostile, it just wasn't aware that the organic beings it was interacting with were a form of life very different from itself.
@@kevinslater4126 We only saw one side of that conversation, and only parts of it...what Lore sent to the entity. We have no idea of the entity's perspective on it, or what Lore had told it previously. For all we know Lore told it it was fine and they weren't real life forms or something.
Personally I think it was aware on some level of the lives it was taking. Lore did say it had given him access to memories it had absorbed during it's feeding process. But, unless it has alternative forms of sustenance, would it care that much? We still enslave and kill animals for food, and we are aware this probably causes pain and suffering to some degree. But sausages and bacon are tasty*... *Substitute other meat you may consume if pigs are off limits to you.
I dont think it has to know - all lore did was signal it, which could just be a food here call or making the colony/starship more obvious, and i dont think it had thoughts anyone could sense, so the memories themselves may have just been byproducts it picked up while eating.
It would really be something if Doctor Whatsherface found out that when she shattered the OG Crystalline Entity, she instead created thousands of new CEs.
That depends on how much of one is needed to form a new body. Like earthworms can famously be split in two and regenerate into two individuals, but if you chop it into 5 pieces, it's just dead.
That is exactly what the writers were shooting for. TNG was a family show, it had some really good horror in it. Like, those things that were taking over Star Fleet and were in that Admiral that threw Worf threw the doors. The the doors never broke before that or since then and that scared me a little as a kid. Those were doors on a space ship. They aren't supposed to break. Things like that. Good thing Worf was really tough.
Yeah but what carry it on till it looks like TNG, they had a good run let it stop before it ruins its self and the charm some times things should be short and sweet.
I'm usually fond of sci-fi "animals" that are native void-dwellers; that are born, grow, and roam in actual space, and not some planet's environments, and especially those that somehow can FTL travel, despite not being in the upper levels of sentience. The Federation, at times, uses warp travel capability as one benchmark for deciding whether some species are "advanced enough" for interaction, yet there are, occasionally, simple animals that can interact with subspace, in Star Trek's case, despite not having any level of comprehension what that ability means.
3:15 Its beam acts like the disassembly part of a transporter. The Farpoint cosmozean also had transporter/replicator abilities. But I am not sure if it could only eat organics - or was simply so big, only organics could still sustain it. The LD ones were clearly not a galactic danger. So it stands to reason they could eat less calorie rich food or communication was established.
One interesting concept from Datalore, was the idea that Data could have been consumed had he been active during the attack. Picard and Riker have a curious exchange where Riker says: "Lore had been disassembled. He explained it as jealousy from the colonists. And Data wasn't yet alive at that time." And Picard responds: "Which explains why Data could be left outside in no danger from that creature." I find the idea fascinating and adds a new layer to the question if Soong-type androids are actually "alive."
For me, the key answer is that Data was accepted into Starfleet Academy. So whichever Starfleet officer took his acceptance oath has already decided that Data is self-aware enough to make his own decisions.
@@toddkes5890 Well Data's status was affirmed in 'The Measure of a Man,' so that's not in question for me. My point is that whatever constitutes being "alive" is what the Crystalline Entity can consume. But with Picard and Riker's conversation, it would imply that it's not simply bio matter that the Entity eats, it eats "life." That's what I found fascinating in 'Datalore.'
Just a thought, but what if they were an engineered organism? The concept seems really familiar to the T'Kon empires crystal energy harnessing power as encountered in TNGs The Last Outpost. Maybe the T'Kon made them to go and gather energy or clear worlds they wanted to colonize?
Star Trek's scale always amuses me. Humanity's known for having a crazy population of like 10-15 billion, with almost a trillion beings of any species in the Federation as a whole. A humanity that has multiple interstellar colonies and the technology to reach them in a matter of days could house a trillion people on and in orbit of Earth while leaving 2/3 of the land surface as nature reserves. If we threw everything we knew at it we could probably house a trillion people on earth with just modern technology, and we wouldn't even have to totally obliterate nature.
Could be that the one sucking up organic matter had somehow, I dunno, gone rogue, or was in some way ill, and absorbing energy from nebulae and new star formations was their natural way of sustaining themselves. Happens in animals. Something goes wrong and an animal starts hunting and eating things it normally wouldn't, like hungry squirrels eating meat or horses eating birds or chicks due to nutritional deficiencies, etc.
5:30 It was more than justified. It was a net good for the universe. After all, while starfleet would deter it from feeding on worlds that are warp capable. Or a part of starflate. They would ignore it going after less advanced worlds that hold civilizations and populations that do not possess warp capability. Many people will argue with me on this. However, it's been proven in the setting. Star Fleet has allowed other disasters such as this to happen to less advanced worlds even when they could have interfered and eliminated the disaster with no one knowing. Starfleet is not a moral organization. It is a technocratic organization with techno advancement based moral systems. In their own way, the Klingons and Romulans are, in fact, more moral than the federation in this regard. While they may enslave or just move in and take the resources of these less advanced cultures and civilizations, they will also, in general, protect their populations. The federation won't. It will literally stand back and watch as an entire primitive. Or non warped capable civilization is wiped out. Then, they will have the audacity to move in and attempt to take the resources. That is not a moral stance.
A beautiful menace if there ever was one, but a menace that be controlled and guided away from causing menace in the first place. Great video. Another video idea could be the Husnok. They were only mentioned in Star Trek: TNG, but we did get to see their warships. Has anything else about them come out?
If it can reproduce from shards, then simply destroying one would create millions of them, dangerously compounding the issue. Very much like a fisherman chopping up starfish to get rid of them in shellfish farms but they only created a lot more of them
Now imagine the fascinating things that can be made from reverse engineering its inherent capabilities. Could be some interesting tech Breakthroughs from it.
I’m just gonna throw out some fan theory/head canon/ fanfic on the Crystalline Entities. CEs come from a distant corner of the Beta Quadrant which is why they aren’t super common in Federation space. Also, they procreate by yeeting themselves into a sun which causes a supernova but forms hundreds of millions of CE seeds that may or may not form into new CEs. This is why they aren’t super Romulans were caught unaware by a supernova that somehow could explode at warp. This chanel has probably explained how the Romulan home world was blindsided and destroyed by a supernova that happened elsewhere but I always felt that was weird. Sci-fi can make all the technobabble it wants but when it uses easily understood real science wrong then we start having problems.
Maybe they latch onto the Mycelial network and the reason they can't be tracked is they can "disappear" and reappear when they feel like it is worth the effort and stress of doing so. Like a Lizard dropping its tail or a a squid jetting ink it might be a dramatic threat response. It is certainly a very similar shape to a fungal growth underground.
Ok, I'm going to throw this out there. I like Lower Decks but its so much of a comedy show that I'm not sure how much it should be taken as canon. Maybe canon with a possibly a joke caveat?
Weird thought of the Day. What if dilithium deposits are just fossilised remains of crystalline entities. This would make Star Fleet essentially "coal" powered.
These were in Lower Decks? I'll have to have a look for those episodes as I wondered if there could be more of them, I was fascinated by this entity in the 90s and love how it followed Riker's speculation at Farpoint that there could be creatures out there able to convert energy into matter. I know there is one in Star Trek Online in the Beta Quadrant but that's a quest line I've yet to get through, that said I might just visit that sector it lives in later.
Yeah i dont remmber a crystal enetity appwaring in that show, they have one in the opening scene of that space brawl where it seems to be faceing off aginst the romulans and borg.
Oh Rick i could only imagine what would happen if the giant pitcher plant would react to if it came in contact of the or the ICE intergalactic crystalline entity, that would be something fascinating to see hmmm im seeing a pattern here the ICE's could possibly be antibodies of some form and either attack the Pitcher or encase it.
I always felt sad when it died. I don't like that LD made them non-unique but I did think it would be funny if the shattered entity turned into a hoard of entities.
I see them like Bears, and the one from TNG a bear that has gotten the taste for humans. When that happens, they will forgo easier food like fish and berries. The others are easily warded away to eat their natural food.
Yeah except bears don't form warp bubbles around them and then magically pop up in your kitchen and decide hey a buffet before moving on to the whole dang planet I tell you hwat!
Honestly, I would argue that just because the crystalline entity lack human morality and an empathy for carbon based life doesn’t mean it’s simple minded. It may be far more pragmatic or indifferent to the cries of its food. Would a whale be considered simple minded just because it doesn’t listen to the cries of the krill it eats? It is intelligent and has to be. Otherwise Lore wouldn’t have been able to form a dialogue. Really calling the crystalline entity “instinctual” is rather human centric(typical for Starfleet) and just refuses to acknowledge any intelligence that doesn’t also respect carbon based life.
Shielding your ships, colonies etc from it is all very well and good, but you've just pushed the problem off someone else less capable. Personally I'd ask the Tholians exactly what they know about these entities? Bearing in mind of course that the Tholians appear to have a serious dislike of none crystalline lifeforms. So they might not be forthcoming on the matter.
@Certifiably Ingame Hello huge fan I have a video idea can you compare the Voyager A ( Lamarr class) and the Voyager B (Pathfinder class) to see the different technologies.
its basically a lifeform close to the level of q or bajors prophets yes Tholians may someday become the same and not need spaceships at all. the real question is what will humans become that q would fear?
like how female mosquitoes are the ones who bite, stealing nutrient rich blood to produce their eggs. in this analogy, we are the nutrient-rich "product" of planets. no wonder it was shocked we could communicate, much as the federation scientists on that other mineral world couldn't fathom the sand was alive
Actually, I agree with Marr that destroying the Crystalline entity was the right course of action. Not because of revenge, but because it’s what we do. There are almost no dangerous animals close to our population centers, because we wiped them all out. The same applies in space. Humanity first. I value one human life over an entire species of primitive entities that pose a threat to us.
I love the idea that Tholians view these things as their equivalent to space whales. Makes the galaxy feel a bit more wholesome. 🥰
Or it would, if we wouldn't be the equivalent to space shrimp in that analogy...
That Tholian connection really is a nice touch.
it is logical them being connected through time n space the Tholians i can see communicating to the entity kinda like a bluetooth pairing in words they could have been connected in the past and a relationship between the two after the crystal feeds it sends out a possible energy field the Tholians can process and constant energy in the frequency needed kinda like how we milk cows for milk the Tholians can do the same with the crystals.
Agreed!
@radionoakmont7756 How do you go from “they’re kindred spirits bc they’re both crystalline” to “they can connect to each other via Bluetooth” AND THEN to “Tholians milk them like cows” ??? 😂
@@UGNAvalon on a hive mind connection and tholians cane xtract an energy from them
You know…something I always wondered, why does everything have to be connected? It’s a universe. Independent development. Right?
1:49 There's honestly something really terrifying about the children's images of the Entity's attack. They give strong cosmic horror vibes and also probably wouldn't feel out of place in some analogue horror series.
What I found scary/odd about those drawings was that the parents decided to pin them up like their kids had just come home from school with their first art project despite the global emergency of the Entity strip mining the whole planet!
It was honestly really cool to see how the thing could be shattered into pieces and killed, though.
It's not known if the entity was even aware that it was consuming other life. It was destroyed before enough communication could be established. It could be a simple case like a whale eating millions of shrimp without even considering it. I believe Picard actually made that comparison. It would've been interesting to establish communication and see how sentient and aware it was. It of course might not even be aware that organic life was actually life, as the only type of life it knew of up until that point was of its own type (which was very different). I tend to think it wasn't actually hostile, it just wasn't aware that the organic beings it was interacting with were a form of life very different from itself.
When you’re trying eat plankton but accidentally swallow a bunch of sentient fish. 🥲
Lore's communication with it makes your statement unlikely.
@@kevinslater4126 We only saw one side of that conversation, and only parts of it...what Lore sent to the entity. We have no idea of the entity's perspective on it, or what Lore had told it previously. For all we know Lore told it it was fine and they weren't real life forms or something.
Personally I think it was aware on some level of the lives it was taking. Lore did say it had given him access to memories it had absorbed during it's feeding process.
But, unless it has alternative forms of sustenance, would it care that much?
We still enslave and kill animals for food, and we are aware this probably causes pain and suffering to some degree. But sausages and bacon are tasty*...
*Substitute other meat you may consume if pigs are off limits to you.
I dont think it has to know - all lore did was signal it, which could just be a food here call or making the colony/starship more obvious, and i dont think it had thoughts anyone could sense, so the memories themselves may have just been byproducts it picked up while eating.
Ramiel: _Could this be one of my people??_ “Does she… Does she scream geometrically? 🥺 👉👈”
oh that is good! let us hear the song of their people!
It would really be something if Doctor Whatsherface found out that when she shattered the OG Crystalline Entity, she instead created thousands of new CEs.
Like spiders carrying their eggs and once their smushed they scatter.
Probs did lol
dr killa marr
If it replicates by splintering, then destroying it really just caused a population boom.
That depends on how much of one is needed to form a new body.
Like earthworms can famously be split in two and regenerate into two individuals, but if you chop it into 5 pieces, it's just dead.
Quantum torpedos should reduce it to small enough pieces
When I saw the entity as a kid it creeped the hell outa me. I don’t know why exactly, but something about it was so inhuman and weird
Exactly how aliens are supposed to be.
That is exactly what the writers were shooting for. TNG was a family show, it had some really good horror in it. Like, those things that were taking over Star Fleet and were in that Admiral that threw Worf threw the doors. The the doors never broke before that or since then and that scared me a little as a kid. Those were doors on a space ship. They aren't supposed to break. Things like that.
Good thing Worf was really tough.
The Tholian's version of a space whale. A Tholian space whale. Interesting.
Lower Decks is such a gem from people that truly get Star Trek. So dumb it is ending.
Most people who truly "get" Star Trek didn't watch it.
Yeah but what carry it on till it looks like TNG, they had a good run let it stop before it ruins its self and the charm some times things should be short and sweet.
@alexshinra6722 STD happened btw, and that section 31 slop
STILL hoping we'll get a Middle Decks announcement once the last episode drops...
@@Sephiroth144 that would be nothing new.
I'm usually fond of sci-fi "animals" that are native void-dwellers; that are born, grow, and roam in actual space, and not some planet's environments, and especially those that somehow can FTL travel, despite not being in the upper levels of sentience. The Federation, at times, uses warp travel capability as one benchmark for deciding whether some species are "advanced enough" for interaction, yet there are, occasionally, simple animals that can interact with subspace, in Star Trek's case, despite not having any level of comprehension what that ability means.
Ive always wanted a ship or vanity shield based off the crystalline entity. It's unique appearance even in games has always caught my attention!
3:15 Its beam acts like the disassembly part of a transporter. The Farpoint cosmozean also had transporter/replicator abilities.
But I am not sure if it could only eat organics - or was simply so big, only organics could still sustain it.
The LD ones were clearly not a galactic danger. So it stands to reason they could eat less calorie rich food or communication was established.
Been a Star Trek fan since I was 7. All the way back in 1994. Your videos I trust the most.
so happy u covered these creatures! loved them since i first saw them
One interesting concept from Datalore, was the idea that Data could have been consumed had he been active during the attack. Picard and Riker have a curious exchange where Riker says: "Lore had been disassembled. He explained it as jealousy from the colonists. And Data wasn't yet alive at that time." And Picard responds: "Which explains why Data could be left outside in no danger from that creature." I find the idea fascinating and adds a new layer to the question if Soong-type androids are actually "alive."
For me, the key answer is that Data was accepted into Starfleet Academy. So whichever Starfleet officer took his acceptance oath has already decided that Data is self-aware enough to make his own decisions.
@@toddkes5890 Well Data's status was affirmed in 'The Measure of a Man,' so that's not in question for me. My point is that whatever constitutes being "alive" is what the Crystalline Entity can consume. But with Picard and Riker's conversation, it would imply that it's not simply bio matter that the Entity eats, it eats "life." That's what I found fascinating in 'Datalore.'
Just a thought, but what if they were an engineered organism? The concept seems really familiar to the T'Kon empires crystal energy harnessing power as encountered in TNGs The Last Outpost.
Maybe the T'Kon made them to go and gather energy or clear worlds they wanted to colonize?
Star Trek's scale always amuses me. Humanity's known for having a crazy population of like 10-15 billion, with almost a trillion beings of any species in the Federation as a whole. A humanity that has multiple interstellar colonies and the technology to reach them in a matter of days could house a trillion people on and in orbit of Earth while leaving 2/3 of the land surface as nature reserves. If we threw everything we knew at it we could probably house a trillion people on earth with just modern technology, and we wouldn't even have to totally obliterate nature.
Could be that the one sucking up organic matter had somehow, I dunno, gone rogue, or was in some way ill, and absorbing energy from nebulae and new star formations was their natural way of sustaining themselves. Happens in animals. Something goes wrong and an animal starts hunting and eating things it normally wouldn't, like hungry squirrels eating meat or horses eating birds or chicks due to nutritional deficiencies, etc.
That would be sucky assignment for an Oberth to just follow and track a crystalline entity, but hey, that's what they're there for lol
Pet peeve. Silicon != Silicone
Its appearance reminds of the bizarre shapes of some viruses with their strange spindley branches of protein shells
Bob.
His name was Bob.😢
one of my favorite things in star trek
5:30 It was more than justified. It was a net good for the universe. After all, while starfleet would deter it from feeding on worlds that are warp capable. Or a part of starflate. They would ignore it going after less advanced worlds that hold civilizations and populations that do not possess warp capability.
Many people will argue with me on this. However, it's been proven in the setting. Star Fleet has allowed other disasters such as this to happen to less advanced worlds even when they could have interfered and eliminated the disaster with no one knowing.
Starfleet is not a moral organization. It is a technocratic organization with techno advancement based moral systems.
In their own way, the Klingons and Romulans are, in fact, more moral than the federation in this regard. While they may enslave or just move in and take the resources of these less advanced cultures and civilizations, they will also, in general, protect their populations.
The federation won't. It will literally stand back and watch as an entire primitive. Or non warped capable civilization is wiped out. Then, they will have the audacity to move in and attempt to take the resources. That is not a moral stance.
❤ it's one of my favorites, truly other worldly 👍🏼
A beautiful menace if there ever was one, but a menace that be controlled and guided away from causing menace in the first place. Great video. Another video idea could be the Husnok. They were only mentioned in Star Trek: TNG, but we did get to see their warships. Has anything else about them come out?
If it can reproduce from shards, then simply destroying one would create millions of them, dangerously compounding the issue. Very much like a fisherman chopping up starfish to get rid of them in shellfish farms but they only created a lot more of them
I've played Sar Trek: Birth of the Federation, my ships shields did nothing to protect them from this monster!
Space meth..I know bad wording but I do like the back story to this creature
Keep doin these. Like it a lot. Fun to watch.
Now imagine the fascinating things that can be made from reverse engineering its inherent capabilities. Could be some interesting tech Breakthroughs from it.
It'd be a short video, but I'd love an analysis about how a changeling can turn into a spaceship and go at warp speed. That DS9 episode was wild.
That's a cool idea, I'll add it to the list! Thanks for the suggestion!
Always saw them as a kind of Jellyfish of space.
I’m just gonna throw out some fan theory/head canon/ fanfic on the Crystalline Entities. CEs come from a distant corner of the Beta Quadrant which is why they aren’t super common in Federation space. Also, they procreate by yeeting themselves into a sun which causes a supernova but forms hundreds of millions of CE seeds that may or may not form into new CEs. This is why they aren’t super Romulans were caught unaware by a supernova that somehow could explode at warp.
This chanel has probably explained how the Romulan home world was blindsided and destroyed by a supernova that happened elsewhere but I always felt that was weird. Sci-fi can make all the technobabble it wants but when it uses easily understood real science wrong then we start having problems.
it reminded me of "Titan after earth"
They should have introduced it to The Borg !!
Would herding a crystalline entity away from a prewarp civilization violate the Prime Directive?
Yes. Fuck Em.
-Jean-Luc Picard
No.
Depends on which show.
TOS? Nope.
TNG? Yep.
DS9? Nope.
VOY? Depends on the writer.
No.
Just like the one TNG episode where it started with them destroying an asteroid enroute to destroy a planet full of people
It would probably be up to the Captain's interpretation of the Prime Directive.
Maybe they latch onto the Mycelial network and the reason they can't be tracked is they can "disappear" and reappear when they feel like it is worth the effort and stress of doing so. Like a Lizard dropping its tail or a a squid jetting ink it might be a dramatic threat response. It is certainly a very similar shape to a fungal growth underground.
Ok, I'm going to throw this out there. I like Lower Decks but its so much of a comedy show that I'm not sure how much it should be taken as canon. Maybe canon with a possibly a joke caveat?
Feed a Borg Cube to it!
Wait... ANGRON IS IN TREK?! /s
Sadly no, just some crystalized C'tan.
That was also my first though, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
The creature needed studied for the crystal organic tech as a better warp system that charges up in a star field or nebula.
Weird thought of the Day. What if dilithium deposits are just fossilised remains of crystalline entities. This would make Star Fleet essentially "coal" powered.
SPACE!!!
The crystalline entity did nothing wrong
Bell the Entity.
It was hungry. It needed to eat. 🖖🙂
These were in Lower Decks? I'll have to have a look for those episodes as I wondered if there could be more of them, I was fascinated by this entity in the 90s and love how it followed Riker's speculation at Farpoint that there could be creatures out there able to convert energy into matter.
I know there is one in Star Trek Online in the Beta Quadrant but that's a quest line I've yet to get through, that said I might just visit that sector it lives in later.
Yeah i dont remmber a crystal enetity appwaring in that show, they have one in the opening scene of that space brawl where it seems to be faceing off aginst the romulans and borg.
@@alexshinra6722 I found the LD episode earlier on Paramount+, it's a season 2 episode called: I, Excretus.
The eu books have the the crystalline entities and Farpoint space creatures as from the same region of space.
ST Online does too, you can get the farpoint creature in ship form as a tier 6 vessel.
It would be cool is they are the reason wrap crystals are everywhere. 😂
How ironic it would be too in that case. That all the FTL is basically made with fossils.
At first I thought the World Eaters from 40k had made it into Star Trek and I was... Concerned
I'd love to see Galactus encounter the Star Trek universe
So do they have dilithium as part of their warp capabilities? Their warp capabilities seem like something worth investigating...
Oh Rick i could only imagine what would happen if the giant pitcher plant would react to if it came in contact of the or the ICE intergalactic crystalline entity, that would be something fascinating to see hmmm im seeing a pattern here the ICE's could possibly be antibodies of some form and either attack the Pitcher or encase it.
Oh oh you should do bestiary battles Rick. 😅 Planet destroyer versus the crystalline entity fight.😂
"A world eater".... sounds like me when I'm hungry
Me right now 😂
I always felt sad when it died. I don't like that LD made them non-unique but I did think it would be funny if the shattered entity turned into a hoard of entities.
An Oberth is just asking for doom
🖖
Kahless II (the clone) killed a bunch of them in the current Star Trek ongoing comic
hes not bad, he just hangy :(
Ive got a theory that the creature that said "bags of mostly water" is a baby crystaline enitity yay nay?
I see them like Bears, and the one from TNG a bear that has gotten the taste for humans. When that happens, they will forgo easier food like fish and berries. The others are easily warded away to eat their natural food.
Yeah except bears don't form warp bubbles around them and then magically pop up in your kitchen and decide hey a buffet before moving on to the whole dang planet I tell you hwat!
@GODCONVOYPRIME I'd go to the theater to see that movie haha
SCIENCE!!!
Turn them loose on the Borg.
🇺🇸 2km = 1.24 miles.
If the Crystals are like it’s bones, could we throw a moopsy or 2 at it?
Honestly, I would argue that just because the crystalline entity lack human morality and an empathy for carbon based life doesn’t mean it’s simple minded. It may be far more pragmatic or indifferent to the cries of its food. Would a whale be considered simple minded just because it doesn’t listen to the cries of the krill it eats? It is intelligent and has to be. Otherwise Lore wouldn’t have been able to form a dialogue. Really calling the crystalline entity “instinctual” is rather human centric(typical for Starfleet) and just refuses to acknowledge any intelligence that doesn’t also respect carbon based life.
Normally when people say world eater they see a 8ft crazed berserker running at 40mph
Or a giant face wearing a big purple helmet.
(Galactus)
[Because I didn't look æt ðe þumbnail] I actually þoht [ðe video] was about ðe Giant Deaþ Bugle from TOS. lol
Or Unicron
Unless they are more a Marvel Fan than a Warhammer fan.
When Warhammer is all you know 😄
So....,,,, they're space cows
Giant carnivorous space snowflakes.
Tholian version of a space whale
How could Lore talk to it if it was not sentient?
confusing sentience with sapience. dogs are sentient but not sapient at least not a high level.
Another great video! I for one certainly don’t consider Lower Decks canonical, though.
Shielding your ships, colonies etc from it is all very well and good, but you've just pushed the problem off someone else less capable.
Personally I'd ask the Tholians exactly what they know about these entities? Bearing in mind of course that the Tholians appear to have a serious dislike of none crystalline lifeforms. So they might not be forthcoming on the matter.
@Certifiably Ingame Hello huge fan I have a video idea can you compare the Voyager A ( Lamarr class) and the Voyager B (Pathfinder class) to see the different technologies.
Pfft, it doesn't even have a chain axe...
"bestiary?" its a best? of a beast?
its basically a lifeform close to the level of q or bajors prophets yes Tholians may someday become the same and not need spaceships at all. the real question is what will humans become that q would fear?
predatory mineral
putting on baby weight
like how female mosquitoes are the ones who bite, stealing nutrient rich blood to produce their eggs.
in this analogy, we are the nutrient-rich "product" of planets. no wonder it was shocked we could communicate, much as the federation scientists on that other mineral world couldn't fathom the sand was alive
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The Xyckrons are in the Star Trek universe. XD they truely are trans universal.
*Algorithm Cookie* 🍪
Is 18 second's early enough?
Did you do this episode as a seasonal thing because it resembles a big snowflake?
I mean, technically a snowflake is a crystalline entity as well.
Hot Take: The Crystalline Entity had it coming I don't feel bad for it.
Marr did nothing wrong.
It has to be sentient. Lore opens a hailing channel to it from the cargo bay and tells it to address him on the ship as "Data".
Actually, I agree with Marr that destroying the Crystalline entity was the right course of action. Not because of revenge, but because it’s what we do. There are almost no dangerous animals close to our population centers, because we wiped them all out. The same applies in space. Humanity first. I value one human life over an entire species of primitive entities that pose a threat to us.
FOR FREEDOM, FOR DEMOCRACY, SUPER EARTH!
Well try to warn it off but if it doesn’t listen then shatter the glass monster
If you've read the xeelee series I think this is a star trek version of the "snowflake".
It probably doesn't use warp but instead it uses a natural spore drive like process.
>lower decks
>canon
pick one good sir
Why would Lower Decks not be canon?
Everything is Canon;
Not everything is True.
Lower Decks is canon.
@@theboard6082 No sane person would consider that Rick and Morty side gag canon.
@@Soguwe Because it is a lame Rick and Morty side gag waiting for a green portal to open
did i hear world eater? BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE