Wish I saw this before assembling mine... similar experience. I was quick to install them, didn't properly read the instructions. Was unaware of the small set screws, realized the bolts had to be tighten afterwards once I found them. I also put the arms on before realizing adjusting the trolley would have been much easier with them off!! I also had drama with the handles. I received 2 x right handles, packing slip and boxes were right - what was in the box wasn't... Team Rouge sent me a replacement immediately!
Thank you for this video Kurtis! I recently purchased these trolley arms and they did not come with the instructions. This video helped me out alot. Thanks again man.
Thanks and a very helpful video. My pair didn’t come with a tiny wrench to adjust the set screws. What size wrench should I buy to adjust the set screws. Thanks.
Thanks for posting this, but I'm still wondering about the handles and how they attach. I noticed what I think is a big brass bearing on the handle side of the arms. Would it be possible to trim down the longer arms if I purchased them, but prefferred the shorter ones?
The large bronze bushing is for any potential releases that may come out. The monster line already has a handle that goes into them but nothing for the Monster Lite series as of the time I post this reply (29 Jan 21) I imagine you could easily shorten them if you have access to a good metal cutting saw but you would lose out on the bushing. The normal handles attach using a welded on 5/8” pin and a hitch pin.
Thanks for your content. Literally had the video up the entire time I was installing my lever arms. Question for you, I am finding I need to balance some side by side play to have fluidity in movement of the trolley up/down the rack. Is this normal? And which one is preferable to have more of? A bit of side to side motion or more difficult to move up/down trolley? Last question, are the rollers supposed to roll on the rack? Even when I loosen the set screws so movement is more fluid it seems like they are sliding down as opposed to rolling. Thank you!!
1. That okay is normal 2. I preferred a little side to side but not too much. It’ll come down to preference but when adjusting you want the sides clamped down enough to just barely give resistance up and down 3 the rollers are supposed to roll. Try loosening the roller bolts and then adjusting the Allen screws that adjust the front to back
I think that the rear push pin would hold twice but I would use caution to make sure it is fully seated. Safety items are often not required, but the non-use of safety items makes things inherently more dangerous.
@@TheKurtlocker thanks. Reason I ask is because I ordered thr ML version but my rack isn't rogue. Turns out the hitch pin won't align with the side holes on my upright but it seems pretty secure itself. Use will be mostly push/pull nothing, no crazy Olympics moves. Thanks for the reply!
Hey Rogue, how about getting your act together when fulfilling an order. The following issues were wrong with the order: missing spacer plate, missing knurled knob, and sticking trigger on one of the trolleys. After contacting Rogue they sent out a replacement trolley and two working knobs - took approximately 4 weeks. So I get the trolley today (2/19) and when I go to put everything together it turns out Rogue sent me the WRONG lever arms - I was sent the trolley arms for a LITE trolley system even though I ordered the MONSTER trolley system. I did not realize it until now because I did not have the knurled knobs to attach handles to lever arms. I would never have thought that I would get the WRONG lever arms from Rogue. So now I am dealing with this. Amazing that Rogue would gotten the order this wrong. They are charging premium prices but not delivering on the goods.
It will work but I would be nervous about the stability of the rack. I recommend bolting down at least one lag per foot plate. The outside lag hole typically doesn’t involve having to mark abs then move the rack to drill
Do your rollers actually roll when you slide the trolley? I've been experimenting with various tightening of the side bolts and the set screws on the back and can't really get a good roll. I was able to get rid of any "slop" by tightening the set screws quite a bit. But I'm not sure if that is what's killing an easier rolling movement vs the rollers just sliding along the upright. Do you know what I might be doing wrong?
I originally had taken out all the slop but found that caused difficulty adjusting them up and down. You just need a little “slop” to make adjusting the trolley a little easier. I have just a small amount of slop on mine and it moves freely and is easy to adjust.
@@TheKurtlocker awesome, thanks for the quick response! Did you find you reached a good balance then by loosening those back set screws, the roller bolts themselves or a combo of the two? Did you find the front (arm side) roller bolts made any difference? It seems if you start to loosen those, the arm itself starts to get a bit wobbly.
Anyone know if you can attach monolifts to the arms? I have monolifts for my bench bar which I love to use.. curious if I can just put that on the arms of the trolley (which I am installing now) instead of adjusting the trolley (and arms) down to the floor to get them out of the way to use the monolifts.
I see no major issue with this. There likely won’t be any structural issues from the trolley arms perspective. Be sure to utilize the safety pins along with the pop pins. As for function, the trolley arms move as well as the mono lift arms. Having two separate pieces that move may cause some slight drama but nothing too serious because the mono lifts typically weights bough that they should hold the trolley arms fairly secure against the uprights of your rack. Hope this helps. If you video it on IG, tag me so I can repost the combo
@@TheKurtlocker Good to know. I had one nut missing from my kit.. so went to the store to get one. Finally putting it together.. the Monster version doesn't have the adjustable rollers like yours does in the back. So.. I hope the little bit of play I see in mine even with the pin in place is normal. It's not much. The other thing I am not sure of.. I put the arms in.. and screwed the hex bolts down pretty tight. My arms do NOT free fall with no weight on them. I cant tell if that's because I tightened the roller nuts too tight.. or the two hex bolts that hold the arm pin in place.. not sure if it's a big deal or not because I am sure once I add weight it will work fine. Or if being brand new they just have to have some silicon spray put on the bolts and will loosen up.
I encountered the same issue when I first received mine. I tightened the sides down too much. Although it does slightly increase side-to-side wobble, the ability to freely adjust up and down makes loosening those bolts slightly totally worth it.
@@TheKurtlocker After posting my comment.. I saw later in your video you said the very thing.. so I did that.. and indeed it does work. Thanks.. great video.
Do your trolley’s wobble side to side at all on the upright? There is more play in mine than I would like there to be and I can’t figure it out. I’ve tightened and loosened everything multiple times
It’s less range of motion and more of how much of an arc is on the movement. The longer the arm, the less curve to the arc over the same range of motion
Hi bud. Just a quick question or 2. Having this attachment yourself. How would this compare to say a seated press, chest/shoulder’s, with an adjustable bench in place. Reason for asking. It would save not just on cost, but room saving too instead of purchasing individual machines. Example: seated chest/incline/ shoulder machine. Also same goes for seated machine rows. Would this attachment replace with good effect. Input appreciated 👍
My opinion is that it would be excellent for those movements. The big limiting factor is getting the arms into the starting position that you want them in to begin the lift. I have had success using SAML-24 spotter arms, but it can be a pain to setup.
Kurtis Stadsvold Really appreciate your reply👍 And advice. I’m a natural bodybuilder so although I would rely on barbell power moves within the rack. You still recommend the attachments (can I rely on) for brutal heavy workouts. If yes, I’m going to order.👍
Do you find it heavy while moving up and down. I just installed mine for the first time. Some of the rollers are real tight and some have some play. So I'm wondering if I need to keep adjusting it. It felt rediculously heavy trying to adjust it from the lowest position to the top of the rack.
At first the arms are heavy while you get the rollers right. It’s a delicate balance getting them right so that it doesn’t make the arms feel heavy, but not so loose that they have a ton of slop. It took me a lot of adjustments.
I have mine about a month now. I got the long arms but replaced them with the short ones. I can’t imagine how heavy it would feel with the long ones which I never used. I don’t think it matters how it’s adjusted. It’s just damn heavy. I find one hand on the handle pulling the pin out and the other on the arm itself helping is the easiest way to move it.
I got used to the technique to move them up and down. I’m able to hold the handles with both hands and adjust it up and down using just a finger from one hand to pull the pin out.
Probably not at the time, but I would have when my shoulder surgery occurred. I don’t have the dedicated space for a belt squat, and these arms were the only way I could squat following my surgery that was easy
@@TheKurtlocker I am on the fence about these two lines. Leaning more towards the Monster line though. Any specific reason for monster? would love to hear more about this. Not many videos on youtube about it.
Barbells and Games the monster line is the flagship line at rogue, so it gets the most attention. It has more equipment expansion options and more attention to detail. It’s also more standard for other attachment brands like Sorinex
Hello Kurtis. I plan to buy the Rogue LT-1 50 Cal Trolley ™ & Lift Arm Kit but I live in Africa in Gabon for my work and I have to transport it. By chance could you give me the number and dimensions packages ? Thank you in advance.
From Rogue customer service: The Trolley would ship standard UPS ground and come in 5 boxes. The weights are 42lbs, 28, 28, 25 and 25lbs. I do not have the dimensions of the packages but the arms would be in a box about 48" long and the handles would be in a box about 24" long by about 20" wide or so.
How much side to side play do you have in the arms? I’ve adjusted the bolts and set screws over and over until I’m blue in the face. There’s still more wiggle than I’d like.
There is still a fair amount of wiggle side to side, but it is less than the Sorinex Jammer Arms. The trolley inherently will have a little wiggle. The only work around I can see is for Rogue to develop some sort of clamping mechanism to clamp the trolley to the upright after it is in position. Even with the wiggle I find that the arms are plenty sturdy though
That pullup bar storage assembly you showed at the end is genius!!! love it. recently purchased the monster version.
Thank you! Enjoy your arms.They are incredibly useful
Thanks man even years later these can help, needed to see the parts on this so I can do a diy with them and inform rouge what I need 👊
Happy I could help! Thanks for watching
Wish I saw this before assembling mine... similar experience. I was quick to install them, didn't properly read the instructions. Was unaware of the small set screws, realized the bolts had to be tighten afterwards once I found them. I also put the arms on before realizing adjusting the trolley would have been much easier with them off!! I also had drama with the handles. I received 2 x right handles, packing slip and boxes were right - what was in the box wasn't... Team Rouge sent me a replacement immediately!
I’m happy they took care of you. They can be an in-depth setup but are worth it once complete
Thank you for this video Kurtis! I recently purchased these trolley arms and they did not come with the instructions. This video helped me out alot. Thanks again man.
No problem. I’m happy to hear that I could offer any help!
Thanks and a very helpful video. My pair didn’t come with a tiny wrench to adjust the set screws. What size wrench should I buy to adjust the set screws. Thanks.
If memory serves it is a 3/32” hex head. Mine is currently not available for me to run and verify for you
Thanks
Is the roller wheel portion more of a plastic or rubber material?
It is a plastic.
How cute is that little girl. Awesome
My family sharing the gym with me is one of my favorite parts of owning a garage gym
Thanks for posting this, but I'm still wondering about the handles and how they attach. I noticed what I think is a big brass bearing on the handle side of the arms. Would it be possible to trim down the longer arms if I purchased them, but prefferred the shorter ones?
The large bronze bushing is for any potential releases that may come out. The monster line already has a handle that goes into them but nothing for the Monster Lite series as of the time I post this reply (29 Jan 21) I imagine you could easily shorten them if you have access to a good metal cutting saw but you would lose out on the bushing.
The normal handles attach using a welded on 5/8” pin and a hitch pin.
@@TheKurtlocker great to hear man. thank you!
Thanks for your content. Literally had the video up the entire time I was installing my lever arms. Question for you, I am finding I need to balance some side by side play to have fluidity in movement of the trolley up/down the rack. Is this normal? And which one is preferable to have more of? A bit of side to side motion or more difficult to move up/down trolley? Last question, are the rollers supposed to roll on the rack? Even when I loosen the set screws so movement is more fluid it seems like they are sliding down as opposed to rolling. Thank you!!
1. That okay is normal
2. I preferred a little side to side but not too much. It’ll come down to preference but when adjusting you want the sides clamped down enough to just barely give resistance up and down
3 the rollers are supposed to roll. Try loosening the roller bolts and then adjusting the Allen screws that adjust the front to back
Awesome! I will try and trouble shoot. Thank you so much. Hope you have a great weekend!
Can you use them without loading the hitch pin on one of the side holes? Will the rear push pin hold only?
I think that the rear push pin would hold twice but I would use caution to make sure it is fully seated. Safety items are often not required, but the non-use of safety items makes things inherently more dangerous.
@@TheKurtlocker thanks. Reason I ask is because I ordered thr ML version but my rack isn't rogue. Turns out the hitch pin won't align with the side holes on my upright but it seems pretty secure itself. Use will be mostly push/pull nothing, no crazy Olympics moves. Thanks for the reply!
@@paps891 I am very interested in your experience. If you are on instagram please hit me up in a DM
thank you for putting this video together
My pleasure! Thank you for watching
Any way to stop the arms from damaging the rack? Would felt work like it did for the j cups?
There really isn’t much “damage” to the rack. The rub marks wash off with a magic eraser.
There really isn’t much “damage” to the rack. The rub marks wash off with a magic eraser.
Hey Rogue, how about getting your act together
when fulfilling an order.
The following issues were wrong with the order: missing spacer plate, missing
knurled knob, and sticking trigger on one of the trolleys.
After contacting Rogue they sent out a replacement trolley and two working knobs
- took approximately 4 weeks.
So I get the trolley today (2/19) and when I go to put everything together it
turns out Rogue sent me the WRONG lever arms - I was sent the trolley arms for
a LITE trolley system even though I ordered the MONSTER trolley system.
I did not realize it until now because I did not have the knurled knobs to
attach handles to lever arms. I would never have thought that I would get the
WRONG lever arms from Rogue.
So now I am dealing with this. Amazing that Rogue would gotten the order this
wrong. They are charging premium prices but not delivering on the goods.
That's incredibly frustrating, especially from a company like Rogue.
Are there any bearings with those rollers? any chance youhave some close up photos? I am hoping to DIY a trolley together.
They use bushings. There are no bearings.
@@TheKurtlocker I also want to build it myself, could you really give some details about the bushings? How they are assembled? Thanks
I think they are just pressed in. I no longer own the arms so more details will be limited.
hi what is the diameter of the bolts, and rollers. THANKS
I unfortunately don’t have the units anymore. I’d recommend reaching out to Kaizen DIY
Can the 35” Trolley arms work on A monster RM-3 24” depth not bolted down.
It will work but I would be nervous about the stability of the rack. I recommend bolting down at least one lag per foot plate. The outside lag hole typically doesn’t involve having to mark abs then move the rack to drill
Do your rollers actually roll when you slide the trolley? I've been experimenting with various tightening of the side bolts and the set screws on the back and can't really get a good roll. I was able to get rid of any "slop" by tightening the set screws quite a bit. But I'm not sure if that is what's killing an easier rolling movement vs the rollers just sliding along the upright. Do you know what I might be doing wrong?
I originally had taken out all the slop but found that caused difficulty adjusting them up and down. You just need a little “slop” to make adjusting the trolley a little easier. I have just a small amount of slop on mine and it moves freely and is easy to adjust.
@@TheKurtlocker awesome, thanks for the quick response! Did you find you reached a good balance then by loosening those back set screws, the roller bolts themselves or a combo of the two? Did you find the front (arm side) roller bolts made any difference? It seems if you start to loosen those, the arm itself starts to get a bit wobbly.
It’s a combination. There is some side to side movement but the ease in adjustability easily justify the slop. Just a bit, not a bunch
@@TheKurtlocker sweet, I will continue to experiment. Thanks for the insight and for the video. This was definitely the most helpful one I've found.
Thank you
Anyone know if you can attach monolifts to the arms? I have monolifts for my bench bar which I love to use.. curious if I can just put that on the arms of the trolley (which I am installing now) instead of adjusting the trolley (and arms) down to the floor to get them out of the way to use the monolifts.
I see no major issue with this. There likely won’t be any structural issues from the trolley arms perspective. Be sure to utilize the safety pins along with the pop pins. As for function, the trolley arms move as well as the mono lift arms. Having two separate pieces that move may cause some slight drama but nothing too serious because the mono lifts typically weights bough that they should hold the trolley arms fairly secure against the uprights of your rack. Hope this helps. If you video it on IG, tag me so I can repost the combo
@@TheKurtlocker Good to know. I had one nut missing from my kit.. so went to the store to get one. Finally putting it together.. the Monster version doesn't have the adjustable rollers like yours does in the back. So.. I hope the little bit of play I see in mine even with the pin in place is normal. It's not much. The other thing I am not sure of.. I put the arms in.. and screwed the hex bolts down pretty tight. My arms do NOT free fall with no weight on them. I cant tell if that's because I tightened the roller nuts too tight.. or the two hex bolts that hold the arm pin in place.. not sure if it's a big deal or not because I am sure once I add weight it will work fine. Or if being brand new they just have to have some silicon spray put on the bolts and will loosen up.
I encountered the same issue when I first received mine. I tightened the sides down too much. Although it does slightly increase side-to-side wobble, the ability to freely adjust up and down makes loosening those bolts slightly totally worth it.
@@TheKurtlocker After posting my comment.. I saw later in your video you said the very thing.. so I did that.. and indeed it does work. Thanks.. great video.
Thanks for watching. I’m happy it worked out for you
Do your trolley’s wobble side to side at all on the upright? There is more play in mine than I would like there to be and I can’t figure it out. I’ve tightened and loosened everything multiple times
Mine has some slight “wobble” but I don’t mind it so much. If it was any more precise I think it would lose a lot of ease for adjustments
I have Rogue Hr2 half rack. If I have weight posts on the back. Think it would be stable enough?
It probably will
can you add rogue on rep pr 4000 ?. does it work well on rep ?
I know it fits but can’t speak to how well it functions.
@s nadipally - were you able to attach the lever arms and trolley to your REP PR 4000? How do they work, if so?
at your height, would the 35" version be just as effective for deadlifts? im concerned about the limited range of motion. thanks
It’s less range of motion and more of how much of an arc is on the movement. The longer the arm, the less curve to the arc over the same range of motion
I have an RM4, do recommend a 6 pillar setup like yours for the trolley attachment?
Not necessarily.
The Kurtlocker thanks dude
Hi bud. Just a quick question or 2.
Having this attachment yourself. How would this compare to say a seated press, chest/shoulder’s, with an adjustable bench in place.
Reason for asking. It would save not just on cost, but room saving too instead of purchasing individual machines. Example: seated chest/incline/ shoulder machine.
Also same goes for seated machine rows.
Would this attachment replace with good effect.
Input appreciated 👍
My opinion is that it would be excellent for those movements. The big limiting factor is getting the arms into the starting position that you want them in to begin the lift. I have had success using SAML-24 spotter arms, but it can be a pain to setup.
Kurtis Stadsvold
Really appreciate your reply👍
And advice.
I’m a natural bodybuilder so although I would rely on barbell power moves within the rack.
You still recommend the attachments (can I rely on) for brutal heavy workouts.
If yes, I’m going to order.👍
@@godsbeast.69 I go pretty heavy with mine so I'd say go for it!
Kurtis Stadsvold awesome.
looking forward to ordering. :)
Thanks again.
And enjoying your Channel.👍
Can this be used with Squat rack with extension kit & 5/8” hardware?
It probably can be used if bolted down before use.
Who would down vote this video? I was on the fence about buying these but now I’m sold. Solid video bro
I use them almost everyday. I got a comment on my Instagram the other day stating that it’s noticed that I use my arms for a ton of movements.
Which monster lite power rack do you have? The 490
I have the 690
@@TheKurtlocker nice that's the one I'm thinking of getting when I get the space
Do you find it heavy while moving up and down. I just installed mine for the first time. Some of the rollers are real tight and some have some play. So I'm wondering if I need to keep adjusting it. It felt rediculously heavy trying to adjust it from the lowest position to the top of the rack.
At first the arms are heavy while you get the rollers right. It’s a delicate balance getting them right so that it doesn’t make the arms feel heavy, but not so loose that they have a ton of slop. It took me a lot of adjustments.
I have mine about a month now. I got the long arms but replaced them with the short ones. I can’t imagine how heavy it would feel with the long ones which I never used. I don’t think it matters how it’s adjusted. It’s just damn heavy. I find one hand on the handle pulling the pin out and the other on the arm itself helping is the easiest way to move it.
I got used to the technique to move them up and down. I’m able to hold the handles with both hands and adjust it up and down using just a finger from one hand to pull the pin out.
Would you have gotten this if it was full price?
Probably not at the time, but I would have when my shoulder surgery occurred. I don’t have the dedicated space for a belt squat, and these arms were the only way I could squat following my surgery that was easy
Solid video! How do you like your rack overall? Would you go smaller?
I started smaller and have grown into this one. If I was to do anything different, I would go all Monster line instead of Monster lite
@@TheKurtlocker Thanks! Thats great information. I've had the titan rack for awhile now - I am going to upgrade soon!
@@TheKurtlocker I am on the fence about these two lines. Leaning more towards the Monster line though. Any specific reason for monster? would love to hear more about this. Not many videos on youtube about it.
Barbells and Games the monster line is the flagship line at rogue, so it gets the most attention. It has more equipment expansion options and more attention to detail. It’s also more standard for other attachment brands like Sorinex
any way to make a belt squat out of this?
I contacted sorinex and they said they can make a JSquat attachment as a special order
Hello Kurtis.
I plan to buy the Rogue LT-1 50 Cal Trolley ™ &
Lift Arm Kit but I live in Africa in Gabon for my work and I have to transport it.
By chance could you give me the number and dimensions packages ?
Thank you in advance.
From Rogue customer service:
The Trolley would ship standard UPS ground and come in 5 boxes.
The weights are 42lbs, 28, 28, 25 and 25lbs.
I do not have the dimensions of the packages but the arms would be in a box about 48" long and the handles would be in a box about 24" long by about 20" wide or so.
Thx Kurtis , that will help me alot !
Good luck to you and your family .
If I ask you health in your hand, can you share me the length, width and intermediate length measurement?
The arms are 48" long and made of 3"x3" material
How much side to side play do you have in the arms? I’ve adjusted the bolts and set screws over and over until I’m blue in the face. There’s still more wiggle than I’d like.
There is still a fair amount of wiggle side to side, but it is less than the Sorinex Jammer Arms. The trolley inherently will have a little wiggle. The only work around I can see is for Rogue to develop some sort of clamping mechanism to clamp the trolley to the upright after it is in position. Even with the wiggle I find that the arms are plenty sturdy though
good power rack
Thank you. It’s definitely grown throughout the years to what it is today
They are lovely but for that price I think I'm going to get some knockoffs.
The new ISO arms from rep seem to be decent quality