Nice video. I've done Tincup Pass a few times. The first time was me & my older brother, in August 1980, riding a Kawasaki KZ-650/4 and a Honda CB-750/4 respectively. I was 17 and he was 23, and I was just out of high school, and the first time I'd been west from Ohio. It was interesting for both of us, no crashes for either of us. Then I've done it in a little SUV Suzuki Samurai a couple times, and a Jeep Wrangler - those were easy. Tried doing it in an AWD Honda CRV softcore SUV, but we aborted because it was just abusing the vehicle. Then in 2005, exactly 25 years after my first trip there, I started out from TIncup 2-up on a BMW R100gs. Past Mirror Lake, it was tough with a passenger due to big rocks. A passing Jeep gave my girlfriend a lift, and then it was easier, but not easy.
I’ve ridden that pass several many times on my Yamaha Grizzly 660. It was very rough and a fun challenge every time. My helmet’s off to y’all doing that on a big GS! That’s some master level HARD riding you did that day. I just got a GS Adventure and it’s a whole different animal compared to ATVs, SxS’s, and the street bikes I’m used to. It takes waaaaaaaay more skill and finesse to take a big bike through someplace like that. I’m not there but I will be. Keep making great videos!
I made it about to the point where Jim says "this just turned into a 9 out of 10" and then I turned around, and now I am glad I did, since I was solo and with full luggage. My skid plate need some major hammering afterwards from hitting all the rocks.
My family used to fly from the east coast to Denver then drive to Breckenridge for a week of skiing. The town is at 10,000 feet and we always had to take at least 8-24 hours to acclimate to the thin air - and drinks tons of water and no booze for the first day. You guys just took off and rode several thousand feet up to 12,000 feet in 3 hours - that is amazing if you were just walking, but muscling a 600 lb ADV bike over big gnarly rocks. Bravo!
Good practice. As new rider, I found myself on one of these rocking roads, riding solo.... Fell over a couple of time /picking up bike/hanging on too tight to handle bars/scared. It's was exhausting and I too was yelling holy shit all the way until I got out! Mine was a dual sport, I give it up to you guys practicing on advanture 👍.
Great job Jim...I so want to be able to ride my GSA in places like that just not confident enough in my abilities to make that kind of a ride. Guess I need to come and take your class!!
you guy's never cease to amaze me,that was Awesome!,very beautiful country as well,thanks for sharing,I always enjoy your videos,Now what Dude,Now what?
Man Jim!! You and your crew really did a great job getting your bikes up that very harsh road. It reminds me back in the 90's when I tackled Millers Jeep Trail in Gorman on my XR600!! LOL
I have four wheeled that pass. Definitely tough section. Often wondered what it would be like on my GS. I would do it on a smaller bike but my hat is off to you for doing it on a 525 pound bike.
It's hard to make but in the end is the best feeling!! We made something like this in the "Parque Nacional São Joaquim/SC/Brazil" last september. A lot of rocks! If is dry, okay, but wet... It's hard! Congratulations!
Google Maps figures a Jeep will take 1 hour to go the 13 miles from Tincup to St. Elmo, and a mountain bicycle will take 2 hours. The St. Elmo side is nowhere near as rocky, and you can mostly avoid the rocky stuff on that side by going far right or far left on the trail when you encounter it. Sounds about right from my experience crossing it a couple times on big motorcycles and a couple times in Jeeps / small SUVs.
Nice work. You wouldn’t have even felt the first beer sliding on down after that. Saving our pennies so we can come up from New Zealand for your courses. Hopefully in the next 12 months we’ll get there
Well done on those heavy machines. I rode it on F650GS Dakar, was fun and pretty doable. Weight matters I guess. Going down on another side is also workout :)
Jim!! Brother you KNOW this experience has me salivating! Good to know you all really do find the joy in challenges which increase your knowledge and confidence. This is so cool especially through a rider’s view. I take it you all already (or soon will) offer this trail in one of your courses?? If not, I’m sure it’ll be on the menu soon! So proud to have taken your intro class followed the Continental Divide ride. What a learning experience for an ABSOLUTE new adventure rider like me! Geeeesh, Jim, now I have to really start saving for the time off to get in tour next level training so I can do the BAJA! RawHyde is THE course to take. My family was so pumped from the photos and video experience, too!
hehe... it always seems easier "going down".... as we went through St. Elmo on the way down I thought to myself... damn... should have come up through St.Elmo... it would be sooo much easier.
aw, come on. Why'd ya buy a bash plate if you ain't gonna use it? Only thing scary about that ride would be if you was camping at the top and had to haul your beer in. Scary, cause the beer'd be all shook up an I'd be afraid to spill any. I think Tincup was a name, a recommendation, and a description. I think they want you to haul Tincup up Tincup and drink it from a tin cup. Tincup won't foam. Like Mountain Whiskey advertises it: Tincup is a classic American Whiskey. It has a bourbon style profile with a bold and spicy finish. Just like the Tincup trail. ;-)
I'm sorry but I got tired just watching it. I'm impressed by the guy getting off his bike on the go. I thought my KLR was too tall for something like that but I think I need to practice balance and control. What camera did you use? The footage is stunning.
big bikes on that trail is tough....next do mosquito pass or baldwin lakes :) i remember some dude told me oh get ready for mosquito pass...its going to be hard and super technical and he was not sure if I can do it..thought it was funny because he judging me since I was on a KLX250. was pretty easy to me but yes tiring
Those locals must have never actually attempted the pass in up there yearly and it’s an EASY trail with few high clearance areas super easy trail not sure why they thought you couldn’t go up there it’s by NO MEANS an almost impassable pass.. after October then yes nothing but tracked vehicles will make it up there but when you were there a Subaru could make it!
Are those bikes real difficult to ride compared to a dirt bike? I ride single track enduro, so it didn't look that hard for what I'm used to riding. It didn't look any fun either tho. There's a difference between, difficult, and just bouncy wear you out crap. I hate rocky roads, love technical enduro. Idk if I'm saying what I'm thinking correctly lol
Yea.. its pretty hard... and at 12,000 feet the lack of air makes it more interesting as well... :-) However... the sense of accomplishment of doing what most folks cannot is a big part of the fun. yea, hard work... yea it wears you out, but when you hit the pavement you sail back home at 80mph in comfort it balances everything out just fine...
@@RawHydeAdventures Right on! I'm sure that elevation was brutal! Pretty sure my buddy is coming up to yalls class in July.... 7 foot tall Marine. You will know when you see him lol
Good technical ride. I kind of don't get the vernacular, though. I'd have been using words like fun, exciting, crazy, fantastic, gnarly, invigorating, and a real test. "Roughest" was a good word. and I agree with "fun", but the only kind of riding that is "absolute crap" is when you can't. :-). "Rocky shit"? Did Bullwinkle step in some flying squirrel poop? That was more like an explosion of rock, a spray of baby heads, or an avalanche of adventure. It wasn't a slug, that's for how you drink the ice cold beer. I think you meant slog, but I'd have called it a mounting crescendo, a road to a technical orgasm. Brutal? I guess me and my DL1000AL8 like it rough, bombastic and full of energy. I have to give it to Tincup Pass, she was a willing participant and you boys mounted her well. Just remember to "Be Positive". That's also my blood type, if you find my barely breathing carcass in a ravine. B+.
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Come on guys, this is not the pinnacle of ADV routes, anything but. Tincup used to be a regular solo ride of mine on a 2001 Triumph Tiger 955i, my GS hunter, and not designed for terrain like this as the GS is. If you can't complete it, hand in your ADV man card. Possers to the right, possers to the left. Maybe focus less on the stickers on your panniers and work on riding skills.....Got a different GS hunter now called an Africa Twin . Maybe stick to the gravel roads for "adventure".? And if you think this is rough, Colorado got some others that will break you. Nice video, overhyped, but nice.
Looks pretty gnarly for big bikes! Gotta love doing things that most wouldn't dare!
Nice video. I've done Tincup Pass a few times. The first time was me & my older brother, in August 1980, riding a Kawasaki KZ-650/4 and a Honda CB-750/4 respectively. I was 17 and he was 23, and I was just out of high school, and the first time I'd been west from Ohio. It was interesting for both of us, no crashes for either of us. Then I've done it in a little SUV Suzuki Samurai a couple times, and a Jeep Wrangler - those were easy. Tried doing it in an AWD Honda CRV softcore SUV, but we aborted because it was just abusing the vehicle. Then in 2005, exactly 25 years after my first trip there, I started out from TIncup 2-up on a BMW R100gs. Past Mirror Lake, it was tough with a passenger due to big rocks. A passing Jeep gave my girlfriend a lift, and then it was easier, but not easy.
I’ve ridden that pass several many times on my Yamaha Grizzly 660. It was very rough and a fun challenge every time. My helmet’s off to y’all doing that on a big GS! That’s some master level HARD riding you did that day.
I just got a GS Adventure and it’s a whole different animal compared to ATVs, SxS’s, and the street bikes I’m used to. It takes waaaaaaaay more skill and finesse to take a big bike through someplace like that. I’m not there but I will be. Keep making great videos!
I made it about to the point where Jim says "this just turned into a 9 out of 10" and then I turned around, and now I am glad I did, since I was solo and with full luggage. My skid plate need some major hammering afterwards from hitting all the rocks.
Nice job riding those big bikes on that pass. Next pass over from there is Hancock pass. It's even rockier.
Air is pretty thin up there which makes it exponentially more difficult through the rock gardens. Good job on this ride. Great accomplishment.
My family used to fly from the east coast to Denver then drive to Breckenridge for a week of skiing. The town is at 10,000 feet and we always had to take at least 8-24 hours to acclimate to the thin air - and drinks tons of water and no booze for the first day. You guys just took off and rode several thousand feet up to 12,000 feet in 3 hours - that is amazing if you were just walking, but muscling a 600 lb ADV bike over big gnarly rocks. Bravo!
Good practice. As new rider, I found myself on one of these rocking roads, riding solo.... Fell over a couple of time /picking up bike/hanging on too tight to handle bars/scared. It's was exhausting and I too was yelling holy shit all the way until I got out! Mine was a dual sport, I give it up to you guys practicing on advanture 👍.
Great job Jim...I so want to be able to ride my GSA in places like that just not confident enough in my abilities to make that kind of a ride. Guess I need to come and take your class!!
You are as crazy as they come - and that's why we admire and love you!!!! :-)
Barty was one of my instructors in Rawhyde's "Next Step" class. He's a phenomenal rider and a great coach.
LOVED IT!!!!! GREAT ADVENTURE!!!
you guy's never cease to amaze me,that was Awesome!,very beautiful country as well,thanks for sharing,I always enjoy your videos,Now what Dude,Now what?
Man Jim!! You and your crew really did a great job getting your bikes up that very harsh road. It reminds me back in the 90's when I tackled Millers Jeep Trail in Gorman on my XR600!! LOL
I have four wheeled that pass. Definitely tough section. Often wondered what it would be like on my GS. I would do it on a smaller bike but my hat is off to you for doing it on a 525 pound bike.
It's hard to make but in the end is the best feeling!! We made something like this in the "Parque Nacional São Joaquim/SC/Brazil" last september. A lot of rocks! If is dry, okay, but wet... It's hard! Congratulations!
But how did you get down from the top? Helicopters! 😅great riding and good friends!
one question....did you have to go back down the same way you up....or down a different way...would love to see the ride down also
Good honest video - great to watch. Not the type of rides I enjoy- anymore; reminds me of the mountains in the heart of Mexico and Central America.
Google Maps figures a Jeep will take 1 hour to go the 13 miles from Tincup to St. Elmo, and a mountain bicycle will take 2 hours. The St. Elmo side is nowhere near as rocky, and you can mostly avoid the rocky stuff on that side by going far right or far left on the trail when you encounter it. Sounds about right from my experience crossing it a couple times on big motorcycles and a couple times in Jeeps / small SUVs.
Great riding guys to get to the top. But riding down would be harder imo.
So how did you get back? The same way? Super excited to be doing the Hub and Spoke tour with you in August!
Your class prepared me for six weeks solo in MX, but this? Seriously chicken....Kudos to you all!
Nice work. You wouldn’t have even felt the first beer sliding on down after that. Saving our pennies so we can come up from New Zealand for your courses. Hopefully in the next 12 months we’ll get there
Great job guys! You definitely earned some cold beers after that one!
Well done on those heavy machines. I rode it on F650GS Dakar, was fun and pretty doable. Weight matters I guess. Going down on another side is also workout :)
Jim!! Brother you KNOW this experience has me salivating! Good to know you all really do find the joy in challenges which increase your knowledge and confidence. This is so cool especially through a rider’s view. I take it you all already (or soon will) offer this trail in one of your courses?? If not, I’m sure it’ll be on the menu soon! So proud to have taken your intro class followed the Continental Divide ride. What a learning experience for an ABSOLUTE new adventure rider like me! Geeeesh, Jim, now I have to really start saving for the time off to get in tour next level training so I can do the BAJA! RawHyde is THE course to take. My family was so pumped from the photos and video experience, too!
Way to go boys!!
We ride this all the time on our bicycles.
Did that pass on a 1290
It was a great ride. Wasn’t to rough
So, how was the ride down?
That looks so cool! I need to take your classes!
looks like you might be ready for Red Cone next..........!!!!!!!!!
Damn fine job guys
I would love to try this someday. But I don't have any riding buddies that would do this, and I wouldn't try this one solo.
And you guys took the easy way up... Try next time coming from St. Elmo.
hehe... it always seems easier "going down".... as we went through St. Elmo on the way down I thought to myself... damn... should have come up through St.Elmo... it would be sooo much easier.
Rode it the opposite way last weekend. Am sticking with the most difficult way is coming from St. Elmo.
I didn't think anything could slow Barty down! Way to ride Jim, Barty, Shawn, and the others.
Looked like a route I do not want to go on.
aw, come on. Why'd ya buy a bash plate if you ain't gonna use it? Only thing scary about that ride would be if you was camping at the top and had to haul your beer in.
Scary, cause the beer'd be all shook up an I'd be afraid to spill any.
I think Tincup was a name, a recommendation, and a description. I think they want you to haul Tincup up Tincup and drink it from a tin cup. Tincup won't foam.
Like Mountain Whiskey advertises it: Tincup is a classic American Whiskey. It has a bourbon style profile with a bold and spicy finish. Just like the Tincup trail. ;-)
Nice job Jim!
Fun to see Barty tired :)
I'm sorry but I got tired just watching it. I'm impressed by the guy getting off his bike on the go. I thought my KLR was too tall for something like that but I think I need to practice balance and control. What camera did you use? The footage is stunning.
Hey ... thanks for the note... the camera's used were either my iphone... or the helmet cam footage was a Sena 10Cpro
Great job guys! Barty put my tires on my bike when I took your Level 1 class last year. So now I can ride Tincup just like him, right? ;)
big bikes on that trail is tough....next do mosquito pass or baldwin lakes :)
i remember some dude told me oh get ready for mosquito pass...its going to be hard and super technical and he was not sure if I can do it..thought it was funny because he judging me since I was on a KLX250. was pretty easy to me but yes tiring
Those locals must have never actually attempted the pass in up there yearly and it’s an EASY trail with few high clearance areas super easy trail not sure why they thought you couldn’t go up there it’s by NO MEANS an almost impassable pass.. after October then yes nothing but tracked vehicles will make it up there but when you were there a Subaru could make it!
On a bike it’s hard for sure but not impassable
Barty is the BEST!!!
Holy smokes Jim, this ain't no joke. I could see taking my old Land Cruiser over this but not a GS at this point in my riding career.
Is this trip doable in one day
yea... its easily done in a day... its much harder going "west to east"... but can be done in a day either way....
Are those bikes real difficult to ride compared to a dirt bike? I ride single track enduro, so it didn't look that hard for what I'm used to riding. It didn't look any fun either tho. There's a difference between, difficult, and just bouncy wear you out crap. I hate rocky roads, love technical enduro. Idk if I'm saying what I'm thinking correctly lol
Yea.. its pretty hard... and at 12,000 feet the lack of air makes it more interesting as well... :-) However... the sense of accomplishment of doing what most folks cannot is a big part of the fun.
yea, hard work... yea it wears you out, but when you hit the pavement you sail back home at 80mph in comfort it balances everything out just fine...
@@RawHydeAdventures Right on! I'm sure that elevation was brutal! Pretty sure my buddy is coming up to yalls class in July.... 7 foot tall Marine. You will know when you see him lol
That was a bad road hell I don’t think I could walk it .
Well did you guys go tell the 4x4 guys to eat their words?? lol
Good technical ride. I kind of don't get the vernacular, though. I'd have been using words like fun, exciting, crazy, fantastic, gnarly, invigorating, and a real test. "Roughest" was a good word. and I agree with "fun", but the only kind of riding that is "absolute crap" is when you can't. :-).
"Rocky shit"? Did Bullwinkle step in some flying squirrel poop?
That was more like an explosion of rock, a spray of baby heads, or an avalanche of adventure.
It wasn't a slug, that's for how you drink the ice cold beer.
I think you meant slog, but I'd have called it a mounting crescendo, a road to a technical orgasm.
Brutal? I guess me and my DL1000AL8 like it rough, bombastic and full of energy.
I have to give it to Tincup Pass, she was a willing participant and you boys mounted her well. Just remember to "Be Positive".
That's also my blood type, if you find my barely breathing carcass in a ravine.
B+.
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Cool I too want tyncap pass 👍 I have just video von pass in Montenegro, when you want you can, looking 😏,, BMW GS ADVENTURE, GIPFELSTÜRMER, MONTENEGRO 2020, TH-cam. MFG JUNKER
Come on guys, this is not the pinnacle of ADV routes, anything but. Tincup used to be a regular solo ride of mine on a 2001 Triumph Tiger 955i, my GS hunter, and not designed for terrain like this as the GS is. If you can't complete it, hand in your ADV man card. Possers to the right, possers to the left. Maybe focus less on the stickers on your panniers and work on riding skills.....Got a different GS hunter now called an Africa Twin . Maybe stick to the gravel roads for "adventure".? And if you think this is rough, Colorado got some others that will break you. Nice video, overhyped, but nice.
youre on the wrong bikes. you need a real adventure bike, not a street bike with knobbies