>>> Apparently you guys are causing our server some suffering. Bare with us as we upgrade. Love you fam. Super happy to be able to finally provide a reliable platform for you to get your hands on this stuff. Just bare with us. We're a small team of around 10 people, and we're all out here in Shanghai looking for new products to stock. We'll be replying to messages etc when we get back to our HQ in Xiamen. Thanks for the support!
What the hell are you talking about? It takes minutes to scale a server. Seconds if you have an autoscaling cloud server. Sounds like your team needs to get with the times. It's not 2010 anymore.
What was the so called “interesting stuff” that you saw? Everything appears to be a copy or iteration of western bikes, so I’m genuinely trying to guess what it’s you’re seeing so new.
Yes, that Sava looks like a bike of the future - the death of standards for handlebars, forks, stems, and nearly anything that used to be replaceable, upgradeable or compatible between various bikes. This is what the future looks like indeed. Sad.
When bike industry "invented" stem integrated into handlebars it already looked strange idea. But now to change reach or stack you have to swap out whole frame. This is just brilliant achievement! It could work for teams backed by wealthy sponsor or for individual who has figured out his geo or rides short distances so no worries about adjustability.
OH YES it’s an absolute ace ! Especially as none of us ever change our bike set up with advancing years or injury 🙄 @event 4216 Spot on and 10/10 for sarcasm 👍
My electric mountain bike was manufactured in China. It is a monster truck of a bike. I believe if all emtbs were built like mine there would be no emtbs available as they would be constantly sold out or unavailable. I have the R5 Pro model. The model is sold by more than 10 corporations with varying liveries. I have the Ride 66 livery. It has been wonderful to own. Hats off to the people of China that built my electric mountain bike.
Nice! Thanks for the take along! Agreed That paint on the Seka was beautiful 😉 Congrats on getting your web store up & running. Will take a look for sure!
Damn. The rate of development of new products is astonishing, when the western brands are at what feels like stagnation. Not sure about the sava frame, the reach looks ridiculous!
Joe, you make a great salesman. Such a love you have for everything about bike. I will certainly look at panda podium. Thanks for all your help in the past
UV filter has seen better days, but the camera got dropped once and the thread bent... so... now it can't unscrew. On my very long list of small tasks to deal with. fml.
The Chinese population are very hard-working people in concurrence with Japanese + Taiwanese , & South - Korean people. Long live China from an Israeli guy.
I seriously want Ltwoo, Sensah, Sava, etc. to take Shimano and the Italians to the cleaners with good and affordable prices, traditional, and hi tech groupsets.
It feels these young brands from china are totally removed from what western brands are doing or focused on. Not necessarily in a bad or a good way but different and exciting. Thanks china cycling!
The Seka frames are next to impossible to purchase if you live in Canada...you have to pay almost 1/3 of the cost of the frame for shipping from the Australian dealer.
Did they give you a price point on that new Sava? Also when it will be ready for purchase and UCI legal? I see nothing on their site. Will need to get to keeping the hammies loose and core strong 😅 beautiful bike
Any chance of the Seka Afield Disc being offered on Pandapodium? I've been look for distributors to the US and they don't seem be going through the usual sources.
What advantage does that weird Sava bike has? Does not look more aero, stack height does not look adjustable, and looks like it will be more prone to damage when you crash at a race.
Nice to see more groupset for the people without a trust fond 😜 Dont like the look of that sensah rear derailleur, but i can't wait to see review of it.
No update since the previous videos I did on it... new batch coming soon with some tweaks, I will test that. If it's good to go, will sell on pandapodium.cc
Ain't no way! Just got RX groupset Hydraulic from Ltwoo but wanted more sensah shimano like STI, and then they came with this... noo! I hope they sell only STI from new HRD sensah line up! I like shimano way of shifting so much more!
The usual thing that happens is that the first few batches are over-priced on aliexpress, then the prices get lower and lower. I'll update when I hear anything else.
@ChinaCycling I was thinking of Google Pay and debit/credit card payments ... thanks for the reply. I can't wait to use your service! Once again, thank you and your hard work!
Your panda website is taking ages to load-up on a fast broadband line in the UK, it took 28/32 seconds. Had to stop looking, it was doing one's heed inn.
@chinacycling We need more information on that Onirii bike with the Sensah hydraulic groupset. Who's making a full suspension gravel bike besides Niner?
0.07 packet of comdoms ? Surely a passing of legal action will follow from those well known prophylactic manufacturers ? Hilarious opener to the vid Joe. Had me in stitches before I even read the text on the box ( and that took it to another level 🤣) . No end of marketing inventiveness for tpu inner tubes. Keep up the good work always informative and entertaining 👏👏👏
>>> Apparently you guys are causing our server some suffering. Bare with us as we upgrade. Love you fam.
Super happy to be able to finally provide a reliable platform for you to get your hands on this stuff. Just bare with us. We're a small team of around 10 people, and we're all out here in Shanghai looking for new products to stock. We'll be replying to messages etc when we get back to our HQ in Xiamen. Thanks for the support!
What the hell are you talking about? It takes minutes to scale a server. Seconds if you have an autoscaling cloud server. Sounds like your team needs to get with the times. It's not 2010 anymore.
I need that "Rest Day" t-shirt you are wearing!
Love the tech and innovation coming out of China, so glad you cover this as things seem stagnant over here. That Sava frame is top shelf!
Yawn, if by innovation you mean mostly copying western tech then sure. Nothing new or unique, even the first bike was more smoke than actual fire
@@indusrtial and many will gladly buy a chinese frame/wheelsets at 1/3 the price of the Western innovative cookie cutters.
That Sava frame is insane
That SEKA frame/paint job is truly beautiful! OMG!
2 year warranty
Frame: lifetime, Fork: 5y, Handlebar: 2y
Your doing a great job, so much more interesting stuff then the western shows!👍
If only Eurobike was this interesting
Then?
Grammar police present
What was the so called “interesting stuff” that you saw? Everything appears to be a copy or iteration of western bikes, so I’m genuinely trying to guess what it’s you’re seeing so new.
That because everything’s been copied?
Yes, that Sava looks like a bike of the future - the death of standards for handlebars, forks, stems, and nearly anything that used to be replaceable, upgradeable or compatible between various bikes. This is what the future looks like indeed. Sad.
True proprietary BS
I had my quintana roo for 4 years and the factory told me that parts are no longer available for my model and they urge me to buy a new bicycle
@@se7ensnakes what a disgrace...
Best ‘trade show’ video I’ve seen in ages. That SAVA rig looks like it’s from the future. Nice one Joe!
Thanks for watching Chris! It's a sensory overload here.
When bike industry "invented" stem integrated into handlebars it already looked strange idea. But now to change reach or stack you have to swap out whole frame. This is just brilliant achievement! It could work for teams backed by wealthy sponsor or for individual who has figured out his geo or rides short distances so no worries about adjustability.
Marketing specialists are SuCcEsSfUlLy ReInVeNtInG tHe WhEeL aNd The BiCyClE!!!!11one
I mean, if you're over 20 you've probably stopped growing, but, re-sale would be difficult!
Proprietary BS
OH YES it’s an absolute ace ! Especially as none of us ever change our bike set up with advancing years or injury 🙄 @event 4216 Spot on and 10/10 for sarcasm 👍
Cool to see so many new ideas. Not so sure about the SAVA front end, which looks great for a movie set but the wind drag must be horrendous.
Yeah, I think it's a good poster bike
@@ChinaCycling but your statement in the video says otherwise
Next time I’m coming there and we’re
Gonna have a blast
The Grant & Joe Show Live from Shanghai … where do I subscribe 😊
I think the internet would break. We'd be like wreck-it-ralf and Vanellope von Schweetz. No prizes for guessing who is who.
My electric mountain bike was manufactured in China. It is a monster truck of a bike. I believe if all emtbs were built like mine there would be no emtbs available as they would be constantly sold out or unavailable. I have the R5 Pro model. The model is sold by more than 10 corporations with varying liveries. I have the Ride 66 livery. It has been wonderful to own. Hats off to the people of China that built my electric mountain bike.
Congratulations on finally formally launching your new website & service!
Thanks dude!
Nice! Thanks for the take along! Agreed That paint on the Seka was beautiful 😉 Congrats on getting your web store up & running. Will take a look for sure!
Thanks Mike!
Damn. The rate of development of new products is astonishing, when the western brands are at what feels like stagnation. Not sure about the sava frame, the reach looks ridiculous!
Superman styleeeee
Bars look super wide too
Joe, you make a great salesman. Such a love you have for everything about bike. I will certainly look at panda podium. Thanks for all your help in the past
I never wanna sell anyone anything they don't want / need... but... I think we all like the idea of buying speed :)
Wooohhh… very interesting Sava bike 🥰
It's easy to find faults in it... but fair play for having the balls for trying something new!
Awesome! Thank you very much Joe! The Sava bike looks like competition for the new Elves bike.
Will see
I hope you can show us Elilee’s booth. Crazy light frames and cranks. Thanks so much for what you do!
I'll swing by!
Panda Podium!! let's go, Joe!! keep after it and I am sure much greatness for everyone 👍👍
One love Keith!
"Not a disc brake guy" always makes me laugh.
Haha, I'm not gonna suddenly pretend to be a fan of disc brakes just to sell stock.
That Sava dream maker is true to the namesake. Looks really sick like a bike from Mass effect or startrek lol and it's insanely light for the design
great work mate, keep the trade bike show content coming! love seeing the new upcoming brands and innovation out of China
Amazing bike show
Thanks for the Coverage! Im still praying for a Wireless Groupset for RIM Brakes
EDS :)
@@ChinaCycling SRAM red mechanical still 🐐
Let's see some mountain bike gear tomorrow!!!
Ok, but I don't know the difference between anti-squat and a dropper post. I don't really "speak" MTB.
Great vídeo. Sensah Empire mech, work with 52T casete? Is compatible with GRX calipers ?
Awesome work Joe!
Thanks for watching Jefffff!
I want to know what the ONIRII suspension frame is that you were using on the trainer!
Cant see it when the cassette is on, but its nice to know its there. Like my pink knickers
The paint job on that Seka frame is something else
Level of design going up and up.
Good idea starting up the webshop mate! :)
PS did the camera lense have some finger prints on it? Video seems a bit cloudy.
UV filter has seen better days, but the camera got dropped once and the thread bent... so... now it can't unscrew. On my very long list of small tasks to deal with. fml.
Awesome video with cool presentation
How long Will the SENSAH Empire Pro hidraulic levers for the Road go on sale?
ltwoo and sentyeh is actually making progress..
How long Will the SENSAH hidraulico levers for the Road go on sale?
Lot of cool stuff coming out of china. Kind of jelly tbh
Great Youtubing fella. Some great looking gear!
Thanks for watching Edmund!
Love your vids! Keep them coming.
Thanks for watching! I know you're an OG subscriber!
What is the name of that full suspension gravel bike? Looks amazing.
I have almost 7,000 miles on my Sava. They make fine bikes.
Always great info in the comments!
The Chinese population are very hard-working people in concurrence with Japanese + Taiwanese , & South - Korean people. Long live China from an Israeli guy.
Your shorts bro they were best, rocking that surfy colourful vibe 😀👍
It's actually an omage... if you go back and watch day 1 of the 2019 shanghai bike show video... same shorts. ;) lol.
Love too see these shows from over in Canada. Fun to see products from across the pond. Keep doing these types of Videos?
You're welcome! Sharing is caring.
Great video Joe, love the panda podium site, look forward to seeing more bold ,funky and interesting stuff.
Thanks for the support! I know you're a OG fan!
Great report! I can't wait for the Sensah hydraulic groupset, and looking forward to a gravel groupset.
The gravel mech looked good.
That frame on 12:02 looks interesting! But love your work mate!
I think I have one on the way to me. Look forward to giving it a running.
Sava the new kids on the block and such good value
is that onirii full-suspension drop-bar bike? would love to see more of this
I'll go more in depth if I have time today or tomorrow :)
I seriously want Ltwoo, Sensah, Sava, etc. to take Shimano and the Italians to the cleaners with good and affordable prices, traditional, and hi tech groupsets.
:) Lets hope prices go down
agree! SRAM, Shimano are too overpriced which makes them not biker-friendly at times when you need parts and you've got a few bucks in your pocket.
Was also at the show Day 1, guess you were there in the morning afternoon was packed. So much great product and a lot of fun, just sore feet 😅
26,000 steps yesterday. Then come back to the hotel and edit while everyone else is out partying, hahaha.
The seka is nice for TT but not for me personally. Like the magnesium frame that's something id consider buying
What was that full suspension gravel bike?
Looks very cool. 😎 How's the quality?
some great bits here mate! nice one!
JC in the house!!! Hope you're doing well fella. Would love to walk around here with you.
Thanks all the content , great website out, good stuff, you speak right intonation or speed
Thanks for watching, thanks for visiting!
What's the weight of the Skypivot crank arms with 24mm axle?
GREAT VID!!
Thanks for your posts and unbiased reviews. It is appreciated and refreshing. I follow your posts and also playback many of your reviews/adventures..
No human on earth is unbiased...please stop
How long until the carbon on the sava cracks due to the impact of the forks when carried or wheel turns
It feels these young brands from china are totally removed from what western brands are doing or focused on. Not necessarily in a bad or a good way but different and exciting. Thanks china cycling!
The Seka frames are next to impossible to purchase if you live in Canada...you have to pay almost 1/3 of the cost of the frame for shipping from the Australian dealer.
The Sava looks insane.
Insane in the membrane.
Love your work!!! 👍
I can’t find a website for the overfast thru axels? Any help please
well done China.
it has out done the major brands.
Did they give you a price point on that new Sava? Also when it will be ready for purchase and UCI legal?
I see nothing on their site.
Will need to get to keeping the hammies loose and core strong 😅 beautiful bike
Woooooo. New sensah. And on top of that panda podium!!!!
#PandaPower
Any chance of the Seka Afield Disc being offered on Pandapodium? I've been look for distributors to the US and they don't seem be going through the usual sources.
I'm gonna try get my hands on a SEKA to ride, and if It feels legit, I'm interesting in stocking them.
Where can you buy the overfast through axles Joe ?, had a search but can't find them . Cheers from Zhuhai
I'm not even sure... I think we will stock them overseas, but for the domestic market, I didn't ask.
Sava! what a clean bike and super cool with the fork & handlebar in onepiece. Great channel, thanks from Sweden.
Thanks for watching Mr Papp!
Until it tips over at the cafe and you crack the handle bars, there's even more to replace 😢 . Not cost effective design
Does the Magnesium bike assist with cramp prevention?
Lick the top tube once every 30minutes.
No. However it is supplied with condoms.
Would like to see some of them pushing the envelope on the rim brakes
Would love to see more information on those Overfast carbon thru axels.
Coming soon to our website.
What advantage does that weird Sava bike has? Does not look more aero, stack height does not look adjustable, and looks like it will be more prone to damage when you crash at a race.
where to buy the SEKA bike?
I never got this whole aerodinamics thing, is a bicycle an aeroplane?
anything from Tern folding bic ?
Nice to see more groupset for the people without a trust fond 😜 Dont like the look of that sensah rear derailleur, but i can't wait to see review of it.
Hahaha, yeah, love stuff getting more affordable!
show us the LTWOO electronic groupset. When can we buy it???
No update since the previous videos I did on it... new batch coming soon with some tweaks, I will test that. If it's good to go, will sell on pandapodium.cc
I'm curious about that affordable 3D printed saddle
The sensah display at 10:20 . What bar tape was that?
Will you be stocking Incolor cranks on Panda Podium as well?
We're in talks... looking promising.
Magnesium is weldable?
Mate do you have a link to OverFast Thur axels? Not able to find them online.
They don't have any oversea distribution yet. I'm in talks to get them up on pandapodium.cc !
Is Cycplus there? Would like to know when Cycplus t2 Pro will be launched.
Yes! I met them today. Updates to the trainer coming, but maybe not super soon.
Ain't no way! Just got RX groupset Hydraulic from Ltwoo but wanted more sensah shimano like STI, and then they came with this... noo! I hope they sell only STI from new HRD sensah line up! I like shimano way of shifting so much more!
great content, looking forward for u to shoot or upload in 4K.. would love to see all these new releases in much more detail :)
Ok, I'll switch to 4K today. I'm run and gun editing, so 1080p makes it a little easier.
@@ChinaCycling love it
Any news on Lt-woo's electronic groupset?
New batch of improved versions coming within a few weeks
The Vast magnesium stands out for me, since carbon isn't recyclable. It looks so much better than the first generation bike.
Yeah, they're really working on the tech
When do you expect the new Sensah gravel HRD groupset to be available?
The usual thing that happens is that the first few batches are over-priced on aliexpress, then the prices get lower and lower. I'll update when I hear anything else.
why is Vaast bothering? Cervelo R5 is like 770 in a 54 and custom steel is also under 900 with actual QC
I guess Magnesium is more sustainable than carbon and won't rust like steel?
Love the site was about to get a few things...but....... can we get other payment methods rather than just paypal?
We will be adding more. What do you want? :)
@ChinaCycling I was thinking of Google Pay and debit/credit card payments ... thanks for the reply. I can't wait to use your service! Once again, thank you and your hard work!
Your panda website is taking ages to load-up
on a fast broadband line in the UK, it took 28/32
seconds. Had to stop looking, it was doing one's
heed inn.
I feel you Simon. Server is taking a battering with 100% CPU usage... we will upgrade it when everyone is sleeping later.
Was Sensah post mount or flat mount compatible?
the calipers shown are from oniiri/zrace (they are hope rx4 "copies") and not by sensah. they are flatmount
loved the video!! what’s the brand of the wheels at 0:12 ?
Is Blacksnow there at the show? I hope you drop by their place if they are, I'd love to see what new stuff they're going to put out
They don't have a booth but I met their boss... will be working with them soon.
@chinacycling We need more information on that Onirii bike with the Sensah hydraulic groupset. Who's making a full suspension gravel bike besides Niner?
I saw two today. One looked like it was stepping on a few TREK patents tho... will see if I can find it again tomorrow...
@@ChinaCycling We definitely need more information about them!
I went tp PandaPodium. Looked at Xcady cranks. Nowhere does it say spindle size or compatibility. Otherwise, great, keep up the good work.
what brand was the folding bike at the end
Thank you
Pardus... Will be in tomorrows video...or...maybe the day after tomorrow... either way..!
@@ChinaCycling thank you
What’s the name full suspension gravel bike on the turbo ? Cheers
It's an Onirii... coming to the channel soon...
0.07 packet of comdoms ? Surely a passing of legal action will follow from those well known prophylactic manufacturers ? Hilarious opener to the vid Joe. Had me in stitches before I even read the text on the box ( and that took it to another level 🤣) . No end of marketing inventiveness for tpu inner tubes. Keep up the good work always informative and entertaining 👏👏👏
Glad you enjoy my poor sense of humour, haha.