Nice, now what about all the other toasty chips? With a soc overclock, so more peak data everywhere else a pi4 can easily fail elsewhere (network especially) . ...and why, given that Rpi have known heat issues on network, usb and ram.. doesn't the sink hit those chips?? Guess there's no point in smarting about Poe and a Pci-e breakout :D we're waiting for this to be offered as a naked board (no keyboard)
Looking forward to your experiments with mounting a SSD drive internally in the keyboard case. Like a recent NVMe 1Tb module. And of course then boot from that drive and rid the SD card. Thanks for sharing your experiences so far, highly appreciated !
I have finally found a place where the answers "to how" and "to why?" matter more than "what for". Every time I watch one of your videos, I feel that you are making a call for people to think for themselves.
Could you do a video on how it performs day-by-day tasks, like browsing with 1, 2, or 10 tabs open, watching youtube videos, etc? Using external video recording so we get a true sense.
As long as you choose the 4 or 8Gb version, it will work similar to a 'normal' laptop from about 5 year ago. Especially if you hook it up to an SSD and ditch the moronic SD card.
Not exactly that, but in a similar vein, check out my 'Pi 4 a Day' video: th-cam.com/video/OU6jHvVqJxY/w-d-xo.html - it is a good little computer, but has reasonable limitations, mostly having to do with running desktop Linux (versus macOS in my case). A lot of those limitations can be overcome if you give it time, but some (like certain applications just not having a true equivalent, like Final Cut Pro/Premiere, or Photoshop) are a little harder to live with.
Thanks! I'm learning so much from you, between this, your Ansible book and examples, and other stuff you're posting. One of these days I need to dive into k8s...
Helpful video thanks. on my Pi 400 I've settled for now at over_voltage=8, arm_freq=2200 without also adding force_turbo=1. force-turbo=1 appears to hold the cpu clock at the maximum 2200Mhz all of the time rather than just have it increase on demand. What I am using is working well and visibly faster for me. I did also try arm_freq=2300 and my Pi 400 booted OK but hung 5 minutes into a "stress-ng --matrix 0 -t 30m" stress test. What a joy this tiny inexpensive machine is. Takes me back to my ZX Spectrum days when I was 16.
The best design will be monolitical design with full size pcb and mechanical swiches soldered right into it. No full case, no covers at the bottom, maybe some protective frame around keys, no heat... But price of mechanical switches is big, and large pcb also not cheap.
usually companies that send samples to reviewers, send them before release date. They just assure the videos will be released after a certain date through contracts (NDA's). So I guess the last two review and disassembly videos where filmed and edited around the day he received it and this one was done along the line after having some time to play with the 400.
I wish! And to others saying maybe I pay an editor, nope! I've spliced thousands of hours of DV since the late 90s and know FCP like the back of my hand... though it would be nice to someday have the means to get someone to help with editing. It takes a looot of time. And these videos were kind of a special case. I completed all three (from filming to uploading starting Saturday night (so just over 36 hours for three). That's burnout-level work, so tonight I will sleep, and tomorrow I will probably turn off the TH-cams... at least for a few minutes 😂
The pi4 has a lot of heat issues because of how close some of the componets are to each other, with the pi 400 the mobo is longer from each other . The USB /ethernet controller is one such the wifi/bluetooth is another componet that heats up. This is why pi3 had so many heat sink options but the over all issue is they didn't have any that took affect because they were so small, I had copper ones and they made a small difference. Copper heatsinks made big difference for the system on a chip though.
Every Pi can use a heatsink. From watching the clustering video, I think the Pi 400 board cab benefit from that plus overclocking. But the resulting heat problem would require a heatsink plus a fan, maybe even a watercooling fan. On second thought, the Pi 4 8gb can be overclocked to 2.1 ghz, and it has twice the ram plus Bluetooth. Just a pair of these add up to 16gb ram and 8 cores. Clustering 3 or 4 of them, with overclocking and cooling, could give you all the cores, speed and ram you want.
So, we should expect a "C" revision of the Rpi4 anytime soon with this slightly improved CPU revision. I'm wondering if the upcoming Rpi4 will be able to reach 2.5Ghz-2.6Ghz Overclocking speeds which would be awesome for retro gaming.
My 400 runs at 7V; CPU @ 2150 and GPU @750, been running smoothly for 8 months on the Pi OS, and Ubuntu Mate 22.04 for two weeks, no issues. Not using turbo mode.
It seems to me that the easiest way to increase cooling would be to fold the aluminum shield into a bunch of small peaks and valleys. Depending on the number of folds it could dramatically increase the amount of surface area that can be used for cooling.
Excellent! I wonder whether the heatsink would mess up the keyboard electronics in the long run assuming it's not designed to operate under such thermal conditions.
nice to see you trying this, can you also do some tests stressing the GPU as well, I find that heavy GPU use causes more heat issues than running all the cores?
I made thermal tests for mobile phones and result is: even that thin plastic gave about 20 minutes temperature gradient inside the device before settling while stepping ext temp from -30°C to +60° in one minute (or vise versa).
In the case of this Pi, since it has some gaps in the plastic/metal interface, and the vent holes on the bottom, it seems like the plastic itself doesn't get as hot, as the heat escapes other ways. I've only tested it using stress-ng for about 3 hours straight, and the temps on the top surface were still under 33°C (and it didn't feel warm). The bottom side did get a bit warm to the touch, but nothing that I would consider 'hot'.
Hi Jeff. Very good video. I want to buy one for my kids online classes. Some TH-cam video watching, document edit. Which would be good in performance Pi 400 or Pi 4 8GB?
The sheer number of other TH-camrs commenting just goes to show that your content has them worried, and they're trying to get info from you to copy. Just imagine how many are lurking and keeping quiet... Keep it up.
When comparing power consumption, the most accurate comparison would be watts. We can see that the voltages differ slightly on your tests, so intensity alone is probably not meaningful.
True, I haven't had time to log the data in any way yet, unfortunately. And really for tiny comparisons where the CPU is overclocked slightly, this power meter is probably not the most accurate.
Hey Jeff, can you stress the pi 400 without the heatsink installed? I'd like to see if the rev C cpu is cooler than the rev B used in the existing pi..
OK now I actually regret bringing an RPi 4 just 2 months before this. I thought this wouldn't survive an overclock but damn. I guess the results would also be similar if you overclocked the GPU to 750MHz, though I wonder if it can beyond that...?
It is actually pretty impressive considering the 400 has no fan. Complete passive cooling. What is the ambient temp though? It may hurt at hotter regions...
Wait, at 4:00 the overclock at 2.2GHz improved a lot more overe 2.0GHz than 2GHz did over 1.5 It's really everything equal on the SoC? At 1.5GHz, does it behave the same as a normal Pi4?
Yes , pi foundation should have send one to derb8ur .. 😂 he would have used ln2 cooling and external power module and push like 300watts to that poor arm chip and make it reach 5ghz on all cores 😂
still running 2.2Ghz ? or now on 2.3Ghz -> 2.4 Ghz range? with the updates? would love a small update on all these old OC test videos... you actually use them right? RIGHT??? :P
Just a question... I did some testing with a raspberry pi 4 and a 3 and measured power consumption as I was quite confused by the numbers on your website... I stressed all cores and both consumed about 6,7W which is... quite far from your result of the Pi 3 on your website... Do you have a theory on what could cause this discrepancy? Maybe a faulty meter?
Yes! That's actually one of the use cases I think it's perfectly suited for. I didn't have any trouble doing Ansible (a Python app) development work, or website dev work (with PHP, CSS, and Javascript) on the Pi 400 I have.
I want to see what kind of nas you can make with the Raspberry Pi 4 compute with IO, as it has an exposed PCIE interface. Is it posable to create a tinny nas with two m.2 drives and no other power source but the Raspberry Pi.
How exactly does the power button on the keyboard work? Is it a simple on/off button I could hit by accident, or is it a software controlled shut down and wake? Can it be programmed easily enough to make it harder to turn the machine off, like hold control and power for 5 seconds?
According to someone in the Pi Forums, even force_turbo doesn't void the warranty on the *Pi 4* at least. Though the documentation says it 'may'... so take that for what it's worth. Just overclocking and overvolting (up to 6) is still fine, though, without voiding the warranty.
@@JeffGeerling I understand pricing is a thing with the Pi 400, but it would've been cool if a fan header was there for users who might want to 3D print a bottom half for Pi 400 and add a fan :)
So, what is the deal with poor 1080p YT playback on base Pi4? With ARM phones being able to run it effortlessly for years now, why Pi has such problems?
I think it's mainly all the fancy web UI TH-cam layers on top of the video. Videos play back perfectly smooth, but when you move your mouse over it and the overlay fades in and disappears, and when you click the video controls, the browser does a good deal of work painting all that on top of the video. It's something that I think could be optimized better, but on mobile, the apps can use native rendering tools, and on most computers, there's a lot more power on tap than the SoC in the Pi.
@@JeffGeerling makes sense. This would also explain why an old netbook that I had arguable pleasure to use not so long ago this year had such problems with displaying modern websites. Poor AMD-C70. On the other hand it seems like my Pi3B+ struggles to run YT even in a background tab (so, it doesn't have to display anything related to YT), which is a shame, as I'd love to use it as a word-processing workstation from time to time.
0:17 - 🔥
Red shirt Jeff needs to be more methodical with his experiments...
Just asking, When you going to Overclock the Pi 400 to it's limit ?(stable yet power hungry)
@@simonmartin4599 red shirt needs to meet his demise.
@@GamingWithBlitzThunder did you watch the same video? He mentions 2.2 is likely the limit.
Nice, now what about all the other toasty chips? With a soc overclock, so more peak data everywhere else a pi4 can easily fail elsewhere (network especially)
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...and why, given that Rpi have known heat issues on network, usb and ram.. doesn't the sink hit those chips??
Guess there's no point in smarting about Poe and a Pci-e breakout :D we're waiting for this to be offered as a naked board (no keyboard)
I found you during the kubernetes cluster phase, staying for the “everything else”. This content is phenomenal! Killing it sir.
I'll be getting back to Kubernetes soon enough! Keep watch for my Kubernetes 101 series!
Looking forward to your experiments with mounting a SSD drive internally in the keyboard case.
Like a recent NVMe 1Tb module.
And of course then boot from that drive and rid the SD card.
Thanks for sharing your experiences so far, highly appreciated !
maybe the Foundation can design a larger case (maybe use that excess surface for a numeric pad) and a free 2.5" sata bay inside or an m2 slot
The perfect balance between comedy to keep things interesting and informative.
The outtakes are great! nice job, Jeff. :)
Definitely!
love the OUT TAKES! :)
thanks for the simple lowdown! the 400 is indeed well thought of! If it had 8GB I would've bought one ASAP.
Congrats, buddy. You're like a kid with a new toy, playing and showing its qualities to your friends.
Glad I am your friend =) keep it up!
I have finally found a place where the answers "to how" and "to why?" matter more than "what for".
Every time I watch one of your videos, I feel that you are making a call for people to think for themselves.
Could you do a video on how it performs day-by-day tasks, like browsing with 1, 2, or 10 tabs open, watching youtube videos, etc? Using external video recording so we get a true sense.
As long as you choose the 4 or 8Gb version, it will work similar to a 'normal' laptop from about 5 year ago. Especially if you hook it up to an SSD and ditch the moronic SD card.
Not exactly that, but in a similar vein, check out my 'Pi 4 a Day' video: th-cam.com/video/OU6jHvVqJxY/w-d-xo.html - it is a good little computer, but has reasonable limitations, mostly having to do with running desktop Linux (versus macOS in my case). A lot of those limitations can be overcome if you give it time, but some (like certain applications just not having a true equivalent, like Final Cut Pro/Premiere, or Photoshop) are a little harder to live with.
yes
i love all your videos!
keep up the good work!
Thanks that you have done what you talked about on Twitter!
As the Joker once said, "I'm a man of my word."
Thanks! I'm learning so much from you, between this, your Ansible book and examples, and other stuff you're posting. One of these days I need to dive into k8s...
Great work - love the out takes - always helps to laugh at yourself - thank you
I ordered today after seeing your video, can't wait to try this!
Thank you for doing this Jeff.
You answered questions I didn't know I was going to ask. Very nice presentation Sir, worthy of subscription.
love the bloopers!
Yep... too bad red shirt Jeff doesn't get to be there too
@@PimentinhaPT clearly he doesn’t fluff his lines 😜
Helpful video thanks. on my Pi 400 I've settled for now at
over_voltage=8, arm_freq=2200
without also adding force_turbo=1. force-turbo=1 appears to hold the cpu clock at the maximum 2200Mhz all of the time rather than just have it increase on demand. What I am using is working well and visibly faster for me.
I did also try arm_freq=2300 and my Pi 400 booted OK but hung 5 minutes into a "stress-ng --matrix 0 -t 30m" stress test.
What a joy this tiny inexpensive machine is. Takes me back to my ZX Spectrum days when I was 16.
The size of the board probably makes a difference too. More copper in the ground plane to spread heat.
True; everything is so spread out compared to the Pi 4 and CM4 especially!
It is good that heatsink surface area so large, and it helps even with plastics around it. It is a very good news, really.
The best design will be monolitical design with full size pcb and mechanical swiches soldered right into it. No full case, no covers at the bottom, maybe some protective frame around keys, no heat... But price of mechanical switches is big, and large pcb also not cheap.
Very comprehensive! thx a lot!
Dude, when do you get time to edit all these videos? Do you have a sweatshop in the back just churning them out?
I'm literally thinking the same thing
@@NovaspiritTech he might just pay an editor
Nonetheless still good content 😜
usually companies that send samples to reviewers, send them before release date. They just assure the videos will be released after a certain date through contracts (NDA's). So I guess the last two review and disassembly videos where filmed and edited around the day he received it and this one was done along the line after having some time to play with the 400.
I wish! And to others saying maybe I pay an editor, nope! I've spliced thousands of hours of DV since the late 90s and know FCP like the back of my hand... though it would be nice to someday have the means to get someone to help with editing. It takes a looot of time.
And these videos were kind of a special case. I completed all three (from filming to uploading starting Saturday night (so just over 36 hours for three). That's burnout-level work, so tonight I will sleep, and tomorrow I will probably turn off the TH-cams... at least for a few minutes 😂
Thanks for sharing.
Me and red shirt Jeff, what a match.
Love the bloopers at the end.
Really good video... but why aren’t you using Ansible to automate all your testing?
I am still waiting for a sound-card on the PCIE connector, yet we're now all screaming about PI 400! LOL
Nice video! :D
Haha, back to PCIe soon enough!
Cool, thanks for trying this
How many videos are you going to post today???
*Goes for the world record*
Keep em coming.... Top notch edit and timing. I'm pretty sure you have 3 clones working for you.
@@gbenselum Greenshirt jeff was actually a clone? Oh my...
thank you .... !! gr8 video
Was nice hearing Eben being interviewed on the PiCast say that they love you over there. :)
O rly? I didn't hear it!
Aha! th-cam.com/video/vP29KEC5U48/w-d-xo.html ☺️
@@JeffGeerling I was coming here to post the time, but you already found it. :)
Not gonna lie I would like that version of the Pi as a standalone board. All the I/O along one edge is super nice for certain projects.
The pi4 has a lot of heat issues because of how close some of the componets are to each other, with the pi 400 the mobo is longer from each other . The USB /ethernet controller is one such the wifi/bluetooth is another componet that heats up. This is why pi3 had so many heat sink options but the over all issue is they didn't have any that took affect because they were so small, I had copper ones and they made a small difference. Copper heatsinks made big difference for the system on a chip though.
What's the TV/monitor you're using with the Pi in this video? I like the way it looks
It's an Insignia TV, somewhat cheap, from Best Buy. Not sure of the model (I'm not near it to check), but it is a few years old.
Every Pi can use a heatsink. From watching the clustering video, I think the Pi 400 board cab benefit from that plus overclocking. But the resulting heat problem would require a heatsink plus a fan, maybe even a watercooling fan. On second thought, the Pi 4 8gb can be overclocked to 2.1 ghz, and it has twice the ram plus Bluetooth. Just a pair of these add up to 16gb ram and 8 cores. Clustering 3 or 4 of them, with overclocking and cooling, could give you all the cores, speed and ram you want.
So, we should expect a "C" revision of the Rpi4 anytime soon with this slightly improved CPU revision. I'm wondering if the upcoming Rpi4 will be able to reach 2.5Ghz-2.6Ghz Overclocking speeds which would be awesome for retro gaming.
Awesome video once again! You're like if Mister Rogers had gotten an EE degree.
It's a beautiful day in the Pi-borhood!
My 400 runs at 7V; CPU @ 2150 and GPU @750, been running smoothly for 8 months on the Pi OS, and Ubuntu Mate 22.04 for two weeks, no issues. Not using turbo mode.
Gg man. Kudos from Romania
It seems to me that the easiest way to increase cooling would be to fold the aluminum shield into a bunch of small peaks and valleys. Depending on the number of folds it could dramatically increase the amount of surface area that can be used for cooling.
Excellent! I wonder whether the heatsink would mess up the keyboard electronics in the long run assuming it's not designed to operate under such thermal conditions.
nice to see you trying this, can you also do some tests stressing the GPU as well, I find that heavy GPU use causes more heat issues than running all the cores?
I wonder if that heat sink even touches the GPU. The teardown show they only had paste on the ARM.
@@logananderon9693 um the GPU is actually built into the SOC, so its all in the one chip.
I made thermal tests for mobile phones and result is: even that thin plastic gave about 20 minutes temperature gradient inside the device before settling while stepping ext temp from -30°C to +60° in one minute (or vise versa).
In the case of this Pi, since it has some gaps in the plastic/metal interface, and the vent holes on the bottom, it seems like the plastic itself doesn't get as hot, as the heat escapes other ways.
I've only tested it using stress-ng for about 3 hours straight, and the temps on the top surface were still under 33°C (and it didn't feel warm). The bottom side did get a bit warm to the touch, but nothing that I would consider 'hot'.
Shout out to Explaining Computers!
Are you going to do experiments with thermal pads on the pi 400 next
Y u no credit Explaining Computers in the video? You even had the channel badge hidden with the url... 🤔
Ah Celsius user TH-camr . I am pleased. Have my likes
It's just easier!
Hi Jeff. Very good video. I want to buy one for my kids online classes. Some TH-cam video watching, document edit. Which would be good in performance Pi 400 or Pi 4 8GB?
They kind of suck for youtube
Red shirt Jeff is my spirit animal. :D
very good video
Does the power button do a hard power off OR does it do a graceful shutdown?
Can you make a video on using alpine linux on rpi4?
please :)
would still be nice with an intake fan on one side and an outtake fan on the other, i know it's not needed, but would be nice to have the option.
Oho, an RX 550? Is this still for the CM4?
Edit: 4:22
Shhh...
The sheer number of other TH-camrs commenting just goes to show that your content has them worried, and they're trying to get info from you to copy. Just imagine how many are lurking and keeping quiet... Keep it up.
If the next one comes out with quad Cortex-X1, I'm in. It'll do me as a desktop.
When comparing power consumption, the most accurate comparison would be watts. We can see that the voltages differ slightly on your tests, so intensity alone is probably not meaningful.
True, I haven't had time to log the data in any way yet, unfortunately. And really for tiny comparisons where the CPU is overclocked slightly, this power meter is probably not the most accurate.
@@JeffGeerling Thanks for the work you put into it, love the content :-)
Hey Jeff, can you stress the pi 400 without the heatsink installed? I'd like to see if the rev C cpu is cooler than the rev B used in the existing pi..
Interested in fooling around with a 400 if / when we try out clustering CM4s, I like the idea of a very mobile keyboard unit to talk to the brambles.
Cool, but how do you underclock the pi?
OK now I actually regret bringing an RPi 4 just 2 months before this. I thought this wouldn't survive an overclock but damn. I guess the results would also be similar if you overclocked the GPU to 750MHz, though I wonder if it can beyond that...?
Yeah I bought my PI 4 a few days ago right before this was announced. I guess I'll buy the 400 as a linux box and use my PI 4 as a dedicated emulator.
It is actually pretty impressive considering the 400 has no fan. Complete passive cooling. What is the ambient temp though? It may hurt at hotter regions...
first ir picture said 36c....
btw plastic isn't a bad heat sink, in some ways it's better than metals in that it doesn't suffer from heat soak as much as metal ones do
Wait, at 4:00 the overclock at 2.2GHz improved a lot more overe 2.0GHz than 2GHz did over 1.5
It's really everything equal on the SoC? At 1.5GHz, does it behave the same as a normal Pi4?
We're so close to have a Pi notebook with the 400.
The battery will last ages.
Hm, now I'm wondering if we have a Raspberry Pi 4+ in the works with the new chip revision.
Red shirt Jeff is my kinda fella.
Next step: LN2 cooled overclock
Yes , pi foundation should have send one to derb8ur .. 😂 he would have used ln2 cooling and external power module and push like 300watts to that poor arm chip and make it reach 5ghz on all cores 😂
@@KuntalGhosh its written der8auer and pronounced der Bauer, this is german for the farmer
@@maurice7017 xd whatever.
LHe2
@@haxboi5492 liquid helium?
still running 2.2Ghz ? or now on 2.3Ghz -> 2.4 Ghz range? with the updates? would love a small update on all these old OC test videos... you actually use them right? RIGHT??? :P
Hmm... does this means that a port mounted heatsink could be effective in this scenario?
What do you use one of these for other than learning linux?
What's the base GPU clock? and what can it be overclocked to?
Just a question... I did some testing with a raspberry pi 4 and a 3 and measured power consumption as I was quite confused by the numbers on your website...
I stressed all cores and both consumed about 6,7W which is... quite far from your result of the Pi 3 on your website...
Do you have a theory on what could cause this discrepancy? Maybe a faulty meter?
Were the benchmarks with a 64 bit OS?
Should have added an 8gb version
Wait it only goes up to 2.2 ?
My rpi 4 can do 2.33
Need it with 8gb !
Need it with a hard drive slot
@@NaeMuckle M.2 SATA/nvme would be more than enough for me.
But yeah I REALLY wanted a 8gb variant, maybe in the future..
Can we use this video as a guide to overclock our own pi400?
Sure! And the linked blog post.
Hey, You should try getting uvl4 working on this as a low latency remote desktop option. I feel like the pi400 screams headless.
Hey , can you try overclocking raspberry Pi 400 with cooling pade, which we use to cool our laptop with fans !!
Would you say the pi 400 is good enough to use for learning python and web development?
Yes! That's actually one of the use cases I think it's perfectly suited for. I didn't have any trouble doing Ansible (a Python app) development work, or website dev work (with PHP, CSS, and Javascript) on the Pi 400 I have.
Is it possible to zombie mod the 400 in order to achieve higher clocks?
How thick is the thermal pad, is it possible to change it with thermal paste?
I want to see what kind of nas you can make with the Raspberry Pi 4 compute with IO, as it has an exposed PCIE interface. Is it posable to create a tinny nas with two m.2 drives and no other power source but the Raspberry Pi.
How exactly does the power button on the keyboard work? Is it a simple on/off button I could hit by accident, or is it a software controlled shut down and wake? Can it be programmed easily enough to make it harder to turn the machine off, like hold control and power for 5 seconds?
I thought overclocking alone would get rid of your warranty. Does it mean that you dont have warranty if you have force_turbo set on 1?
According to someone in the Pi Forums, even force_turbo doesn't void the warranty on the *Pi 4* at least. Though the documentation says it 'may'... so take that for what it's worth.
Just overclocking and overvolting (up to 6) is still fine, though, without voiding the warranty.
@@JeffGeerling Still for a $70 computer, the warranty aint covering all that much. Relatively speaking
If CM4 and Pi 400 are being released before 2021, what are they planning for March 14th
Maybe they're gonna surprise us all and release a pi 5.
Is there a fan header on the Pi 400 PCB, by any chance?
Nope.
@@JeffGeerling I understand pricing is a thing with the Pi 400, but it would've been cool if a fan header was there for users who might want to 3D print a bottom half for Pi 400 and add a fan :)
Problem is, is it stable?
@jeff how about an addendum to this video, max CPU + GPU overclocking on this little device?
Thing is, for me to consider any pi it needs to be able to handle youtube 1080p without a hitch
This is the way.
I feel like all these people overclocking a raspberry pi are missing the point. It's not supposed to be powerful. It's a project board.
Agree; realize this is a video for fanboy wankery.
@@smpmuzpid : And a project to max overcook a noodle would be more interesting and resourceful to mankind.
0:28 I knew you were following chris. Have you ever watched novapirit tech videos? Don is amazing
So, what is the deal with poor 1080p YT playback on base Pi4? With ARM phones being able to run it effortlessly for years now, why Pi has such problems?
I think it's mainly all the fancy web UI TH-cam layers on top of the video. Videos play back perfectly smooth, but when you move your mouse over it and the overlay fades in and disappears, and when you click the video controls, the browser does a good deal of work painting all that on top of the video.
It's something that I think could be optimized better, but on mobile, the apps can use native rendering tools, and on most computers, there's a lot more power on tap than the SoC in the Pi.
@@JeffGeerling This is Chromium I guess ? Does Firefox on Ubuntu do better ?
@@JeffGeerling makes sense. This would also explain why an old netbook that I had arguable pleasure to use not so long ago this year had such problems with displaying modern websites. Poor AMD-C70.
On the other hand it seems like my Pi3B+ struggles to run YT even in a background tab (so, it doesn't have to display anything related to YT), which is a shame, as I'd love to use it as a word-processing workstation from time to time.
We ll that's def a earned subscription
have you tried 2350 which is feasible on pi 4 8G
This new Revision is a Speed DEMON!
There is a pi 4 ICE tower....... Well done.
What about same CPU OC with GPU OC?
At which voltage setting is 2,0 GHz stable?
Genius
Is there room in there for a SATA SSD?