Idk man, I tried them with whole other ones I got in collection and they are just so uncharacteristic, boring, not even as good for my keyboard as dt990... I had to return them, as it was a waste for me, but I guess for someone that doesnt have as many headphones or this type already, it could be a choice
DT880P, K7__, and HD6__ mark the era headphones became serious tools for critical audio production and hifi listening. Still widely used today and the reason you don’t hear many headphones that predate them mentioned much.
Of the dt 990, 880, and 770, the 880 has received the most love and had the most thought put into it. The 880 was meant to be an inbetween of the 770 and the 990 one of wich had a dark sound and the other a very sharp sound. So the 880 sounding like the little brother of a higher tiered product makes sense
@@krystofkatrusak903 to be fair the 880 are meant to be flat. beyer themselves explicitly only mark it and the 990 as mixing headphones while the 770 is relegated as a monitoring headphone. the higher tiered dt1990 is basically the big brother to the 880 (not the 990, confusing i know) if you need headphones for mixing and mastering you generally do not want them to be colored cause they need to be revealing.
i got DT880 Premium Edition (250ohm). Soundstage is quite decent. Not a massive soundstage, but not "poor". I agree about how you describe the sound of the headphone but not the soundstage part. I thought the only differece between the Pro and Premium Edition was the cable. I might missed something here... Hope this is understadable, english ain't my native language. Best regards from Sweden
@@PK-xj6qz What´s the difference between DT1990 and DT880 in your opinion? I´ve looked at several reviews of DT1990 and keeping my eyes open if I can find a used pair of DT1990 or T1´s.
@@PK-xj6qz Thanks a lot for your opinion. I got Beyerdynamic Custom Studio, DT880 and DT990. DT880 is the best sounding headphone in my opinion. But DT990 is the one I would choose for fps-games out of the three just mentioned. Thanx again p k.
@@davidmason8212 "Hifi Klubben" do have most stores around the country I guess. "Reference Audio" if you going to Stockholm. "Ljudmakarn" maybe but not sure.
If anyone uses these for mixing or mastering, real Mastering Engineers will think you know what you're doing. I've been using these for years. Great clarity on the highs with level mids and lows. If you like thump in your bass...these are NOT the ones. These are meant to check for clarity and balance and keeping the high-end clean of artifacts. That is what these are for...at least, this is what I use them for. I can't speak for everyone but most professionals and I say the same thing...so, take what I say with a grain of salt.
Joshua Valour also, great description of the tall nature of the soundstage; at first when you spoke about the soundstage being one of the weaknesses I was a little confused but when you went into it in greater detail, I think you nailed it. 🙌🏽
I tried both the DT880 and the DT990 (both in 250 Ohms and the Edition variant) for a few days. Finally decided for the DT990 because of their more exciting (at least for me) sound. I am pretty sure I will buy the DT880 some time in the future though (when I have more money) just to have both.
@@snipexxplays39 The DT 990 and DT 880 both have a 3/4” or 18mm hole in the inner cup which is covered by the perforated grills on the DT 880 and the louvres with the DT 990. I would consider them both semi open. Anyone in the room or even the next room will hear your music the same as with a fully open headphone. There might be a bit more of outside noise attenuation while you’re wearing them but nothing Ike a closed back.
Accurate review. Thanks. I got these 2nd hand for £70. Was disappointed with the sound (thin and bass light) through my iPhone 14 but knew it was due to them being hard to drive. After much thought decided to buy Hip dac2 to use with them via a Apple USB to lightning adapter. Gives portability rather than being tied to a mains powered hphone amp. The Hip dac2 has a power boost button and a bass boost button (the bass boost doesn’t intrude on the mids) My hunch was right, with these features engaged the dac sounded as if it was made for the DT880 600 ohm. Just fantastic listening experience. Actually checked to see if my, not inexpensive HiFi set up, was still switched on. 😀 Metal to the Bach Brandenburg’s sound amazing on these with the right power and bass boost pairing. Will always hang on to these cans.
I'm surprised to see these back up above $200. For the longest time you could get these under $150. I think I paid around $130 for mine back when I got it. Paid that for my DT990's as well. The beyer treble is a bit much for me most of the time but their headphones are some of the best for gaming. I have yet to find a better headphone for gaming than the T90.
I'd actually recommend these and the 770s but not the 990s. Those had way to much treble. The 880s is a nice balance and the 770s have a nice increase in quality bass.
Actually idk man, I was testing all 3 of them and the 880 had a nice soundstage, but thta was about it. The 770 were okay for casual listening and mixing. but not really enjoyable and the bass could be better imo. The 990 even tho the treble is sometimes too piercing, were the most fun and for electric/rock. The bass was greater than I expected and the clarity of mids were on top of the two.
Even a single string vibration this headphones can pick it up! Listen to Alice in Chains, Unplugged album, Got Me Wrong Every time Jerry plucks that string this headphones captures it perfectly
would it be too much if i go for the for the 600Ω's ? i've been looking into these for the past 2 weeks since my current is starting to fall apart lol i am willing to go for an amplifier for em too but is the difference even noticeable?
Beyer's own website recommends these for jazz and classical, and being an owner of these I'd have to agree. Really for any softer music like jazz, folk and country I'd bust these out, but in my opinion they aren't the best all-arounder. For example, I wouldn't pick these for extreme metal or any hype electronic music because I think the sound is too soft for that. Either way I still think these headphones kick ass for the genres they perform the best with.
What an review. I like lighting and room too. And you Joshua are nice guy. Really usefull and dope video! Great work. Those babies headphones are amazing! Im gonna buy on pair of DT880 PRO for sure ! :)
I watched this video, bought it on Drop, and pretty much agree with you on everything. I think the SHP9500 has about as much detail, waaaaaay better comfort (if you have glasses), bigger soundstage, and imaging about on par. Low end is quieter but is more linear in my opinion. That sibilant peak isn't bad on either, but the SHP9500 has less of it.
These are VERY amp reliant. Especially the 600ohm. I run the 600ohm off a Emotiva BasX T100 speaker amp running off banana jacks, and it takes all the power and nothing comes close for the money. I own or have owned many many high end/boutique cans and these punch all the way to the top. TLDR- Source reliant
@@jross1798 Thanks for the info. I am teetering on the edge of buying a new Schiit Jotunheim 2 and Bifrost 2. If I go through with it, I will try and remember to get back to you with the difference in sound. I'm coming from a Magni Heresy and Modi and skipping the Magnius and Modius.
Good review, i had these for 8 years, was mostly very satisfied weith them and would agree to your conclusions. These are great for the price if you are into the right kind of music (e.g. classical). However, i am mostly not touching them any more since i recently got my planars. Bass and vocals on the DT 880 Pro simply can't compete.
Quad ERA-1 (technically apparently the same as Brainwavz Alara in the US). I like them very much, only a little bit more detail would be nice, at least compared to more treble-optimized good dynamics, but i guess that's why they are still somewhat affordable.
Please review the Audio-Technica AD2000x vs the DT 1990 Pro. Both $500 headphones but completely different approaches to emphasis of sound, sound stage, and even build.
@@davidmason8212 i dont have em but i have AD1000x (which is very close to 2KX) and T1.1 and IMO the T1 is a class better, although i prefer the vocal tuning on the AT.
i really do hope they start doing detachable cables in their lower end headphones would make them soo much more sales if it didt make it cost a little more
@@Deebz270 but thats extra time i have to spend and if i ruin the headphones then thats it. beyer can do detachable cables as they have a lot of cans that do so why are they not making a nefresh when everyone loves these cans? i dont get it
880pro is my first headphone. For me there's no sound stage on 880pro , and a smooth treble flows with every tone it sounds. But very nature and relax to listen to , even a day's using doesn't matter. Tried with T1 2nd pads 880pro , it becomes like a degraded T1 2nd , and all its character lost away.
When I had these for a try, I didn't have a proper amplification, but I think I heard them throughoutly enough and I have to say I didn't enjoy them at all. I cannot imagine why would someone buy these mainly for gaming. The treble is very lively and clean, but there is so much of it it's hard to focus on other details. I didn't like the construction that much either, though they felt sturdy and durable. After all, the marketing page tells you that these cans are meant for audio engineering and this is exactly how they sound if you ask me. Weird that a product like this has gained such a popularity, but I guess some really love their treble. I would not recommend these for home use unless you are very insensitive to treble frequencies or tend to only listen to soft recordings or classical.
Music aside. I absolutely love my DT880 for gaming. They are unbeatable! I currently own DT 1990, Sennheiser HD650, Sennheiser HD-25 II and Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (use these for console stuff since 2012)
I have these headphones now for 8 months, though the Edition variant, and I really love them. Precisely because I listen to a lot of classical music and film music (Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard) I chose these after a long research. And for the price of 154€ (Germany) unbeatable, I think. I didn't dare to use the DT1990 because of the higher clamp force. Too bad there are no 1990 Edition or 1880 Edition. But I´m very happy with my DT880 Edition.
@@rko901000As written above, I can only speak for classical music and film music and they fit me like a glove. I don't know anything about chill hiphop and don't allow myself to judge. If you need more bass for this genre of music, then probably another model will be better. Beyerdynamic itself recommends the DT 880 Edition for jazz and classical music. You always have to keep in mind: what do I get for my money. Yes, a Hifiman Sundara would be a bit better BUT you need an amplifier and it is twice as expensive (even more with an amplifier) and you have to ask yourself: is this little bit worth the extra charge to me?
I use this for music production, aswell as gaming, and the quality is really really good for both. I play dayz/scum and for those games sound is everything, as it can mean whether or not you get jumped or you get the ability to react to pushing enemies. For music production, I use yamaha HS8's to soundstage, but for long hours of music production, I use the DT880, because the HS8's can be quite fatiqueing for the ears (my ears atleast, we're all different) I plan on swapping the HS8's with some ADAM speakers, so the DT880 might retire and become my mobile-production headphones instead. We'll see.
@@herespresso No You have to use external mic (in case you didn't have the answer already) And if you interested in what kind of mic is good for gaming, I recommend Blue Yeti or Audio Technica At2020 usb versions, Razer Siren or Quadcast is fairly decent too. Or if all these are too pricy, you could always buy the Modmic.
Hey, did you get the Adams? I had a pair of t7v, they were great. I'm just curious of your opinion on Adams, how do you compare them to Yamaha, if you got them ofc.
I knew I wasn't the only one who felt that the DT880 didn't have a wide soundstage. The AKG K7-- series and now the Hifiman HE-4XX are just better in that regard. I actually think the HD5-8 series headphones had wider soundstage.
Yep. The k701's are in a different league. Treble is just as extended but in line with the music. This makes for an out of head sound that the 880's and 990's don't quite reach.
The plastic sliders get brittle in time and break, luckily you can buy them on ebay 3d printed and will probably last you a lifetime ( original replacement costs a fortune)
I am listening this review with DT880 Pro on my head right now and really like the sound of your voice btw :) I am using them only with Sonarworks reference, cause I can't listen to any modern music cause of low bass. If I was mixing music without Sonarworks, it would end up extremely bass heavy. Also I need a strong headphone amp to use them properly. I like them, but with Sennheiser HD650 I don't have to use any software and they play louder even when they are 300 ohms.
My question is when the headphones are boosted or dialed in at certain ranges, would this limit your mix to sounding good on good systems rather than all systems?
maybe I missed it Josh so ingore this if I did mate, but please could you put the ohm version in future in description. Thanks man. Keep up the great work.
So, what you mean when you say for beyerdynamics to put a meaning to "pro" is that it has bigger clamping force and a spring cable instead of a straight one compared to the DT 880 edition? Or are you arguing there are actually sound differences? Also, lets not talk about the useless irritating flapwings on the headband of the DT 880 edition ;S
I owned the Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium 600 ohm version and to me all of the Beyerdynamic have the TREBLE TURNED all the way up, while the bass area is turned down. It just goes to show you that know one likes the same sound or HP. When I had the 990 600 ohm I used allot of highend HP Amp.. Benchmark HPA4 which uses the THX-888 still nothing extremely bright sounding. Tried the Audio Gd Master 9 amp same thing. But I never tried it with my new Felix Euforia Amp. But not a fan at all of Beyerdynamic.
Hi, i'am running the dt 880 600 ohms on a topping dx3 pro dac/ headphone amplifier. I enjoy it very much but i don't know which one could be a good upgrade to me. Thanks a lot. Best regards from France and congrats for your channel 👍
Good to see this review as this was my first pair of decent headphones and I can now compare more accurately based on your reviews. Just a tip for any owners or future owners of this headphone: mod them with the toilet paper mod. Fixes the main problem of the piercing spike at the top of the treble. They do not lose any clarity and just makes them balanced. Personally, I could not stand that spike and was never happy with the piercing highs. However, after adding the square of toilet paper and the foam from hd6xx's (the foam being my idea as one ply was not enough, and two plies was too much), it fixed the problem completely. After adding the mod, this has become my only pair of headphones/earphones that i can happily listen to without any eq. Granted, I still use a +3db eq at 60hz, but if eq is not possible, I can still listen to them without any complaints. This review also makes it much easier to see if I should later upgrade to the 1990 as they have been reviewed in this channel too. I was surprised when you said the 1990 actually have more treble. However, that is fine as I will be modding them as well. I really like the sound signature of my dt880's so just good get confirmation the dt 1990 are basically its bigger brother.
Hey there, we checked out the headphones from a "haptic" view. What can you hear on quality and materials. Check out the video for this "different" review.
So I’m thinking about getting the 880 250ohms version, along with the e10k amp... for FPS games and pinpointing footsteps, which headphone should I get?
Hi, Thank you for the video. does the cable has a pungent bad smell? I bought one from amazon. The cable seems to be made from some poorly recycled material. I cannot believe it is made in Germany.
Same here, I found the same exact thing the quality of the cable leaves a lot to be desired and the smell stinks. I also don't think the version sold on Amazon has been manufactured in Germany.
I have tried DT 770 Pro. I was getting headaches after 10 minutes. I think it was a combination of clamp force, closed headphones, strong bass. I would go for HD600 but out of my budget (EU so VAT). People say 880 have much much less bass compare to 770 and Premium have a really soft clamp. Well, I can try them, or have to find something similar to HD600. Maybe one of their 500 series, but there are so many. Looking for something with LITTLE bass as possible and comfortable. I guess those two are my only criteria. If you happened to know something in these, could you recommend?
You can stretch the band in Beyers as it is made of steel piece. Sennheisers only have parts that slide out made from steel so you need be more careful. All Pro Beyers have higher clamping force than their regular Hi-Fi equivalent, other than that not much of a difference. For myself I found Sennheisers to be more comfortable, and I also like their tonality more without recessed upper upper mids and peaky highs, although DT880 have slightly wider image. If you look for more natural sound than peaky highs in Beyer maybe look into AKG K612, and Tygr300 looks better from measurements than 770 witch has U shaped signature. Also check Solder Dude site DIY Audio Heaven, measured planty of headphones and moded many including Beyers, Sennheisers, AKGs, ...
Why have you never done review of DT 770 Pro 250ohm?? All we see are open back or semi-open back headphones from you. Please do DT 770 Pro 250 ohm review.
Currently im using dt 770 pro 80 ohm. Do you think adding jds labs the element amp-dac combo will be overkill for this headphone and fiio e10k would be just enough?
It would be overkill for that one in particular, but if you can afford it than there is always room to grow. Otherwise just go with something more entry level.
Hey Josh... I was considering these and 650s.. I don't wanna spend a lot on amp.. maybe a magni 3.. But I am all about Female vocals.. like high pitched vocals. Can you recommend something..?
I own both and I'd lean towards the 6XX/650. The DT880 is not sibilant at all times, but for female vocals it happens more often than not. I really enjoy the sound of the DT880 even though the timbre is not as natural as the Sennheiser's and the Sennheisres to improve a lot more with proper amping than the DT880s. For gaming, the soundstage of the 6XX makes it a lot easier to identify location, whereas on the DT880 it takes a little more effort to discern the difference. These are the only 2 full size headphones I own currently, and I don't plan on selling either as they do different things. My plan is to add the K702 and HE500 to my repertoire and use them for different purposes (gaming, different music genres, video editing, movies, etc)
Since also really like this range (high pitched female vocals) and have these two pairs. I'll give my take on it. First off the DT880. Sound more fun and it not afraid to present those vocals along with every detail. On the downside, it does start reaching into the sibalent territory and can get fatiguing with some vocals. However, with the toilet paper mod (kills the treble spike around 8k) and adding a bit of sub bass with eq (+3db at 60hz), these headphones sound extremely balanced, and detailed. That leaves the 650's. First off, they'll never fatigue. These things are laid back while still providing all the vocals you could ever want. However, there is a downside to this: the Sennheisser veil. While they are pleasure to listen to, sometimes it does feel like it's missing that extra fun in the highs. This is made worse by the bump 120hz as the extra mid bass will many times start to cover the mid to high range. This was the reason I cannot use them without EQ. Thankfully, they take EQ amazingly well and what is left is amazingly balanced curve, that is never sibilant, and never fatigues while being clear in every aspect. Saying all that, what I recommend is ordering some Koss ksc75's and trying them out. If you like their lively tone for your music and the slight sibalence doesn't bother you, then the DT 880's will be perfect for you. I find those two to have tonal balance, but the dt 880 is just much more refined and more balanced (especially in the bass region as the koss has a pretty steep drop). If you want a more laid back sound than the the Koss presents, the HD's will be more your style. EDIT: with all the rambling forgot to mention I do prefer the Beyers, but I do like that extra fun high mids to highs. After modding them, they are my only pair that I can listen to without any EQ.
@@AlumarsX Thanks for the input. Sennheiser surely sounds more natural but Sennheiser 650 does vocals that involves a lot of lower mid emphasis the best. To my ears they tend to roll off just after lower treble region.. I only heard them through sound demos and once in a Sennheiser booth with whatever music they had for just 5-6 minutes.
@@carlos2004 I already own a AT m40x... On any average day I prefer its treble response. I was before considering 1990 pro... but their treble is a touch too much for me especially cymbal crashes made my ears bleed. I personally don't mind sibilance..infact I love sibilant female vocals.
@@AlumarsX I feel the similarly about 880s, too much treble spike, recessed mids and not enough low bass. Did the same mid with paper tissue and foam to lower highs, but I still feel there's not enough mids and lows. Maybe HD650 but w/o foam in front of the drivers would make them more neutral.
To my ears, all Beyerdynamic headphones are bright, i owed T-1, 1990, 770, 990 and others, nice midrange, they can handle metal music properly, but way too bright! I sold all of them!
@@wcgryphon9059 1990s really aren't that bright, just a few dB in a much narrower treble area compared to let's say 990, which is a true treble cannon. But the treble on the 1990 is of course not recessed at all, which may be the problem with most people. I bet a lot of people think that an overly warm/dark sound is the "neutral" version of it, so you get conflicting opinions on it. I have noticed that tons of music old and new is mastered to be overly bright. I won't use darker headphones, I just prefer to alter the sound files themselves to be less boosted in the treble areas.
I would really be interested if you could get your hands on well burned in dt990 pros. I've seen graphs on the internet show that they totally lose their mount beyer highs when they age.
@@dannybos7024 For the 990s its the older more used pads that make them lose their extreme treble supposedly which is why I posted this. So far as burn in with drivers, lets not get into that here lol
The 🏔️ Beyer - perfect way to describe it. Seems like HD6** series also looses highs, becoming totally vailed. Anyway, of the two I lean more towards HD600, because of the Beyer unnatural treble tuning.
Joshua keep in consideration reviewing the Pro-Ject Pre Box S2 Digital. It seems a nice DAC, with mqa from Tidal and a Sabre DAC chip. Not so shure about the headphone part. Thanks for hearing me. Greetings from ARgentina!
Should give the T1.2 a test if you can get one in for review. Longtime beyer fan had most old models and many of the new ones. The T1.2 has some magic that dt880 dt990 are missing, also not as fatiguing as the dt1990 pro.
I have these but also thinking of getting the dt 177x go would there be any real difference or improvement i know this post is kinda old but hope you can comment Thanks
only one issue with these i found is when using them and a volume the bass does this weird wind blowing like it can't handle high volumes. im running IFI dac v2 amp with can. i dont have this issue with my Hifiman Anada nano and R70x
Hi, I just see the video and I don't know what to buy, DT880 Pro 600 OHM they are good for podcast and editing and listen music ? Maybe you can help me with some advice regarding about what I need for podcast and for listen music. Thank you
Pregunta urgente , acabo de cómpralos pero es normal que el audífono este más aislado uno que otro , un lado en este caso el derecho tiene mejor aislación del sonido que el izquierdo , se nota inclusive a la hora de hablar de un lado escuchas menos que el otro eso es normal en este tipo de audífonos o me vienen con falla ?
I'd say these are very good for music production, but maybe not so much just for listening to music and relaxing as they are fairly analytical, I prefer my Sony for that. I use mine hooked up to a Schiit Magni3 Heretic plugged into my synthesizers to make music.
You can't say that in general. I love them(DT 880 Edition) precisely because I like to listen to my music analytically. There are different ways of listening to music and therefore there are different headphones that offer a different sound. In my opinion it also depends on the type of music you listen to with the headphones. I listen to 90% film music(mostly Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard and Steve Jablonsky) and classical music and they sound excellent for that imo. Especially at this price.
I primarily use SHP9500 and M1060 fed by the liquid spark, I got these in premium edition cuz I always liked how Beyerdynamic headphones look. But I returned them after 2 days. The increase in sound quality didn't justify the jump in price from the shp's. The bass of the planar M1060 ruined other dynamic headphones for me personally. Would the more expensive 1990 offer the same rumbling bass the M1060 offer?
Hey I've watched and enjoyed several of your videos since being told about your channel yesterday. One thing I noticed is the "roominess" and thought I would recommend a Countryman B3 mic. It's a lav, so you clip it on or in your shirt, and I think it would give you a considerable improvement for a minor expense (the wired version is like $180). Good bang for the buck. If you want to clip or tape it inside the shirt, it has a few interchangeable caps that can compensate for the HF reduction.
hi im looking upgrade from my X2HR philips . headphones could delever deep bass ( listing for hip hop ) my X2HR great ! but no deep bass like i want .. what the diffrent betwen 770-880-990 ? also 80ohm - 250ohm ? im using mobo with 3 level of amp - so i dont think i need external amp for this headphones thanks !
I’m so stuck figuring out which pair to buy. I know I want some Beyerdynamics in this price range so either the 770, 880 or 990, but which ones? I want to invest in a decent reference headphone to improve my mixes so I thought maybe the 990. However, I also want to be fairly portable with them, be in Starbucks mixing for instance, wired maybe but I really don’t like spending more time in my room than I have to. So would the open back of the 990 cause issues with sound coming in from the outside etc? In which case maybe the 880 instead? I’m shying away from the 770 because they’re closed back and although the isolation would be great for sitting in Starbucks, I really wanted an open back headphone to get better mixes. That said, I’m currently mixing on a hi fi headphone closed back. Help!
@@Itsmypureworld The DT770 is filled with bass and closed back so kinda inferior to the others. The DT990 is a treble and bloated bass filled joke if you ask me. The DT880 is neutral with a bright tilt that can be easily EQ'd out for those that are bothered by it.
Can anyone give me some input on what DAC/AMP to use with these headphones for gaming and music? I play a lot of pc games and would like a good quality stack or combo unit. I'd appreciate any recommendations!
How does this compare to the dt 770 and/or 990? I currently own a dt 770 80ohm and am very happy with it, but I'm curious if these offer more, less or much of the same. Thanks
@@dannybos7024 clamping force changes sound, they cannot sound identical, clamping force aslo gives more stable sound like when you move or turn your head some headphones suddenly loose or increase bass heavily because the seal changes. ymmv
If the cans are as effective as they are supposed to be, then adjust the mix. That's the whole purpose. If you feel that they are not representative, then say that. But trying to discuss nuance issues without sharing which other equipment you are referencing on... just whining about how you don't like the sound of them is like saying that you don't like a claw at the end of the hammer because it hurt when you dropped it on your foot... That is NOT the Hammer's fault! It is an OPERATOR "headspace" & "timing" issue.
Depends what the ohm is on the model of dt880 your looking at. 32 ohm will run off anything, but other options will sound better. Getting an amp is a worthwhile investment if you want to get into this hobby.
I recommend the DT 880pro. 880 has a less V curve compared to 990. But doesn't really matter if you are accustomed to any of the model's nuances and tonal signature. All the best.
@@origami74 If your primary purpose is audio production, then I suggest you to find an audio interface with a good preamp power. I don't think I am the right person to suggest the perfect amp. I use a MOTU M4 Audio Interface and it can handle a 250 ohm headphone easily. So, there's that. By the way, Schiit Audio is a pretty well known amp brand, often suggested by other audiophiles.
Nah, I would put these two sound signatures in different categories. The the HD goes for the laid back non sibalent sound at the expense of sometimes sounding veiled, while the DT goes all in on the detail even if it means having sibalent piercing highs. I feel both are balanced but each in their respective category of the goal they're trying to achieve. If you like the sound signature of your HD's I feel you will be unsatisfied with the DT's. If you just want more bass, I recommend just to add it with EQ; they take eq very well and you don't need with anything more on the curve other than the 30-80 range. I think a 2-3db boost at 60hz will make them perfect for you.
@@carlos2004 thanks for the input. I've been on the search for my next headphone to be in the same neighborhood of what I have now, but maybe just a slightly different take just so I can experience something different. I'm new to this. Planar dynamic headphones maybe? Closed back? Its almost like I just need to pick something at random and then just return it if I don't like it. Got any suggestions?
@@colin8601 Yep yep. Order a pair of Koss ksc75's. It will give you a completely different sound signature, although the bass rolls off even more than the dt/hd, but you'll be able to hear the "fun" part the hd's might sometimes miss. And at $15, everyone should own a pair of them. The only other decent ones that i can recommend are in-ear: the tin t2 and the kz es4. the kz es4's are nothing to gush about, for $20 they're a decent buy with typical cheap in-ear signature of increased bass (although still no true sub bass) and sparkling highs. As for the t2's, I only got them last week, but they deserve the hype. Extremely clear vocals without the highs being too sibalent. They also have mod where you cover the bass port (a tiny hole on the casing) and they give you gratuitous amounts of bass while keeping the fun and balanced mids and highs. EDIT: I guess I'll mention that the reason I've picked all of these up is because I'm still trying to find the perfect pair that will match or best my home system. Basically I know exactly what I like, but just haven't found the perfect pair that matches it. Also, yes, I use EQ with every single pair to get them closer to my home system.
Please review Beyerdynamic Custom Studio 80Ohm. Please make a video on it. I really like your reviews and trust them. Please compare them with dt 770 pro
Hey. I had the 770 Pro 80 Ohms version and gave it back to beyerdynamics. Comfort was perfect but the sound of the 770 wasnt that great. After a little research i found out im not the only one who says that. Also the 770 Pro is not "made" for Mixing and Mastering. You should really go for the DT 880 Pro or the DT 990 Pro. But wachtout there are Hi Fi versions and Studio versions. Hope i helped you out
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I find these are unreasonably good at the price point. I just added them to my collection and absolutely love them.
Idk man, I tried them with whole other ones I got in collection and they are just so uncharacteristic, boring, not even as good for my keyboard as dt990... I had to return them, as it was a waste for me, but I guess for someone that doesnt have as many headphones or this type already, it could be a choice
I owned dt880p from 2010 to 2014. Even now I use k7xx and hd6xx, I still miss this can so much.
DT880P, K7__, and HD6__ mark the era headphones became serious tools for critical audio production and hifi listening. Still widely used today and the reason you don’t hear many headphones that predate them mentioned much.
Why did you get rid of them?
@@Princeton_Jameshe didn't say he got rid of them so maybe they broke in one way or another
Of the dt 990, 880, and 770, the 880 has received the most love and had the most thought put into it. The 880 was meant to be an inbetween of the 770 and the 990 one of wich had a dark sound and the other a very sharp sound. So the 880 sounding like the little brother of a higher tiered product makes sense
Also made them more uncharacteristic and boring, it that way, which is kinda shame
@@krystofkatrusak903 to be fair the 880 are meant to be flat. beyer themselves explicitly only mark it and the 990 as mixing headphones while the 770 is relegated as a monitoring headphone. the higher tiered dt1990 is basically the big brother to the 880 (not the 990, confusing i know) if you need headphones for mixing and mastering you generally do not want them to be colored cause they need to be revealing.
You are the king of dancing around an opinion.
Josh and Zeos knows they can't explain sound in words that we'll, it's just Zeos gave up while Josh keep on trying.
Because he's talking to a crowd that shits on everything that isn't a recent flagship. I can tell he actually like these cans.
880 Pro is my go to when I hear something on my speakers. At the same time it sounds sterile.
i got DT880 Premium Edition (250ohm). Soundstage is quite decent. Not a massive soundstage, but not "poor". I agree about how you describe the sound of the headphone but not the soundstage part. I thought the only differece between the Pro and Premium Edition was the cable. I might missed something here...
Hope this is understadable, english ain't my native language.
Best regards from Sweden
@Alina Satis I totally agree. DT880´s soundstage are closer to DT990 and HD599 then - for example - HD58X Jubilee imo.
@@PK-xj6qz What´s the difference between DT1990 and DT880 in your opinion? I´ve looked at several reviews of DT1990 and keeping my eyes open if I can find a used pair of DT1990 or T1´s.
@@PK-xj6qz Thanks a lot for your opinion. I got Beyerdynamic Custom Studio, DT880 and DT990. DT880 is the best sounding headphone in my opinion. But DT990 is the one I would choose for fps-games out of the three just mentioned. Thanx again p k.
I am about to visit sweden next month where can i try high end headphones ????
@@davidmason8212 "Hifi Klubben" do have most stores around the country I guess. "Reference Audio" if you going to Stockholm. "Ljudmakarn" maybe but not sure.
If anyone uses these for mixing or mastering, real Mastering Engineers will think you know what you're doing. I've been using these for years. Great clarity on the highs with level mids and lows. If you like thump in your bass...these are NOT the ones. These are meant to check for clarity and balance and keeping the high-end clean of artifacts. That is what these are for...at least, this is what I use them for. I can't speak for everyone but most professionals and I say the same thing...so, take what I say with a grain of salt.
These have been my main for about just over the past year and half now. I love them and keep going back. My main gaming headphones also.
Are they open?
@@coffer9303 semiopen
What’s the sound leakage like
@@Lucas-fm5xv it's pretty much open back so I dont think you can even consider leakage. It's part of the design
Got a pair last week for playing guitar through Axe-Fx. Sound fantastic, big step up from my Sennheiser 558's.
One of my favorite cans, don’t mind the treble and the bass extends further than the HD 600
trellusg true.
Joshua Valour also, great description of the tall nature of the soundstage; at first when you spoke about the soundstage being one of the weaknesses I was a little confused but when you went into it in greater detail, I think you nailed it. 🙌🏽
I tried both the DT880 and the DT990 (both in 250 Ohms and the Edition variant) for a few days. Finally decided for the DT990 because of their more exciting (at least for me) sound. I am pretty sure I will buy the DT880 some time in the future though (when I have more money) just to have both.
trellusg I hope you reply man. How do you find the semi open? Is it open enough to hear ambient noise? (PC fans, etc)?
@@snipexxplays39 The DT 990 and DT 880 both have a 3/4” or 18mm hole in the inner cup which is covered by the perforated grills on the DT 880 and the louvres with the DT 990. I would consider them both semi open. Anyone in the room or even the next room will hear your music the same as with a fully open headphone. There might be a bit more of outside noise attenuation while you’re wearing them but nothing Ike a closed back.
How come we haven't see a Beyerdynamic DT 990 PRO review yet ? perhaps the 80Ω
pleaaaaasash
Accurate review. Thanks. I got these 2nd hand for £70. Was disappointed with the sound (thin and bass light) through my iPhone 14 but knew it was due to them being hard to drive. After much thought decided to buy Hip dac2 to use with them via a Apple USB to lightning adapter. Gives portability rather than being tied to a mains powered hphone amp.
The Hip dac2 has a power boost button and a bass boost button (the bass boost doesn’t intrude on the mids) My hunch was right, with these features engaged the dac sounded as if it was made for the DT880 600 ohm.
Just fantastic listening experience. Actually checked to see if my, not inexpensive HiFi set up, was still switched on. 😀
Metal to the Bach Brandenburg’s sound amazing on these with the right power and bass boost pairing. Will always hang on to these cans.
I'm surprised to see these back up above $200. For the longest time you could get these under $150. I think I paid around $130 for mine back when I got it. Paid that for my DT990's as well. The beyer treble is a bit much for me most of the time but their headphones are some of the best for gaming. I have yet to find a better headphone for gaming than the T90.
Just got mine factory refurbished for 120. Super excited
I'd actually recommend these and the 770s but not the 990s. Those had way to much treble. The 880s is a nice balance and the 770s have a nice increase in quality bass.
Exactly. That's why a lot of beat makers use the 770s.
@@matrixate True. I have seeing that.
Actually idk man, I was testing all 3 of them and the 880 had a nice soundstage, but thta was about it. The 770 were okay for casual listening and mixing. but not really enjoyable and the bass could be better imo. The 990 even tho the treble is sometimes too piercing, were the most fun and for electric/rock. The bass was greater than I expected and the clarity of mids were on top of the two.
Even a single string vibration this headphones can pick it up!
Listen to Alice in Chains, Unplugged album, Got Me Wrong
Every time Jerry plucks that string this headphones captures it perfectly
As a DT770 80Ω and 250Ω owner, I like beyer for the shear repairability! wrecked a transducer doing a mod and picked up a new one for 58$
would it be too much if i go for the for the 600Ω's ? i've been looking into these for the past 2 weeks since my current is starting to fall apart lol
i am willing to go for an amplifier for em too but is the difference even noticeable?
Beyer's own website recommends these for jazz and classical, and being an owner of these I'd have to agree. Really for any softer music like jazz, folk and country I'd bust these out, but in my opinion they aren't the best all-arounder. For example, I wouldn't pick these for extreme metal or any hype electronic music because I think the sound is too soft for that. Either way I still think these headphones kick ass for the genres they perform the best with.
Good for progressive rock too?
Closed cans fare better on modern density styles.
What an review. I like lighting and room too. And you Joshua are nice guy. Really usefull and dope video! Great work. Those babies headphones are amazing! Im gonna buy on pair of DT880 PRO for sure ! :)
Appreciate this review for diving into the sound quality aspects.
I watched this video, bought it on Drop, and pretty much agree with you on everything. I think the SHP9500 has about as much detail, waaaaaay better comfort (if you have glasses), bigger soundstage, and imaging about on par. Low end is quieter but is more linear in my opinion. That sibilant peak isn't bad on either, but the SHP9500 has less of it.
These are VERY amp reliant. Especially the 600ohm. I run the 600ohm off a Emotiva BasX T100 speaker amp running off banana jacks, and it takes all the power and nothing comes close for the money. I own or have owned many many high end/boutique cans and these punch all the way to the top. TLDR- Source reliant
@@jross1798 Thanks for the info. I am teetering on the edge of buying a new Schiit Jotunheim 2 and Bifrost 2. If I go through with it, I will try and remember to get back to you with the difference in sound. I'm coming from a Magni Heresy and Modi and skipping the Magnius and Modius.
Big fan of every pair of Beyers I have used. Only complaint really is that alot of their 'pro' models have a bit more clamp force than I like.
Good review, i had these for 8 years, was mostly very satisfied weith them and would agree to your conclusions. These are great for the price if you are into the right kind of music (e.g. classical). However, i am mostly not touching them any more since i recently got my planars. Bass and vocals on the DT 880 Pro simply can't compete.
What did you get? I was considering the dt1990 but I might opt out for planers as the dt880's do their thing well enough.
Quad ERA-1 (technically apparently the same as Brainwavz Alara in the US). I like them very much, only a little bit more detail would be nice, at least compared to more treble-optimized good dynamics, but i guess that's why they are still somewhat affordable.
Please review the Audio-Technica AD2000x vs the DT 1990 Pro. Both $500 headphones but completely different approaches to emphasis of sound, sound stage, and even build.
I have tried both all the people prefer the dt 1990 but for me i liked the ad2000x it was more relaxing
@@davidmason8212 i dont have em but i have AD1000x (which is very close to 2KX) and T1.1 and IMO the T1 is a class better, although i prefer the vocal tuning on the AT.
i really do hope they start doing detachable cables in their lower end headphones would make them soo much more sales if it didt make it cost a little more
Can you solder? If so, then just fit a 3.5 mm TRS socket into one of the cups and make up a decent lead to suit. Job done.
@@Deebz270 but thats extra time i have to spend and if i ruin the headphones then thats it. beyer can do detachable cables as they have a lot of cans that do so why are they not making a nefresh when everyone loves these cans? i dont get it
The dt 880 is a very neutral headphone. It is for listening to music as intendet by the creator of the music
880pro is my first headphone.
For me there's no sound stage on 880pro , and a smooth treble flows with every tone it sounds.
But very nature and relax to listen to , even a day's using doesn't matter.
Tried with T1 2nd pads 880pro , it becomes like a degraded T1 2nd , and all its character lost away.
When I had these for a try, I didn't have a proper amplification, but I think I heard them throughoutly enough and I have to say I didn't enjoy them at all. I cannot imagine why would someone buy these mainly for gaming. The treble is very lively and clean, but there is so much of it it's hard to focus on other details. I didn't like the construction that much either, though they felt sturdy and durable. After all, the marketing page tells you that these cans are meant for audio engineering and this is exactly how they sound if you ask me. Weird that a product like this has gained such a popularity, but I guess some really love their treble. I would not recommend these for home use unless you are very insensitive to treble frequencies or tend to only listen to soft recordings or classical.
Music aside. I absolutely love my DT880 for gaming. They are unbeatable! I currently own DT 1990, Sennheiser HD650, Sennheiser HD-25 II and Beyerdynamic MMX 300 (use these for console stuff since 2012)
What games do ya use them for most? What ohm version do you have? What is your favorite part bout the sound for gaming?
I have these headphones now for 8 months, though the Edition variant, and I really love them. Precisely because I listen to a lot of classical music and film music (Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard) I chose these after a long research. And for the price of 154€ (Germany) unbeatable, I think. I didn't dare to use the DT1990 because of the higher clamp force. Too bad there are no 1990 Edition or 1880 Edition.
But I´m very happy with my DT880 Edition.
How is it so far? looking to get one for music and gaming
@@rko901000 Which kind of music?
@@october65-h6e All types, mostly classical or chill hiphop
@@rko901000As written above, I can only speak for classical music and film music and they fit me like a glove. I don't know anything about chill hiphop and don't allow myself to judge. If you need more bass for this genre of music, then probably another model will be better.
Beyerdynamic itself recommends the DT 880 Edition for jazz and classical music.
You always have to keep in mind: what do I get for my money. Yes, a Hifiman Sundara would be a bit better BUT you need an amplifier and it is twice as expensive (even more with an amplifier) and you have to ask yourself: is this little bit worth the extra charge to me?
I use this for music production, aswell as gaming, and the quality is really really good for both. I play dayz/scum and for those games sound is everything, as it can mean whether or not you get jumped or you get the ability to react to pushing enemies.
For music production, I use yamaha HS8's to soundstage, but for long hours of music production, I use the DT880, because the HS8's can be quite fatiqueing for the ears (my ears atleast, we're all different) I plan on swapping the HS8's with some ADAM speakers, so the DT880 might retire and become my mobile-production headphones instead. We'll see.
Hey! Do they have a mic inbuilt for when you're gaming or do you use an external mic?
@@herespresso No
You have to use external mic (in case you didn't have the answer already)
And if you interested in what kind of mic is good for gaming, I recommend Blue Yeti or Audio Technica At2020 usb versions, Razer Siren or Quadcast is fairly decent too.
Or if all these are too pricy, you could always buy the Modmic.
Hey, did you get the Adams? I had a pair of t7v, they were great. I'm just curious of your opinion on Adams, how do you compare them to Yamaha, if you got them ofc.
What would you say is better for competitive and immersive gaming; DT1990 Pro, or DT880 Pro?
Can you please review the DT 770?
Lucas Lemke no.
I knew I wasn't the only one who felt that the DT880 didn't have a wide soundstage. The AKG K7-- series and now the Hifiman HE-4XX are just better in that regard.
I actually think the HD5-8 series headphones had wider soundstage.
Yep. The k701's are in a different league. Treble is just as extended but in line with the music. This makes for an out of head sound that the 880's and 990's don't quite reach.
My favorite headphones are Grado SR 325. Which version of the many Beyerdynamic would I enjoy more if I want to stay with the same sound signature?
How's the 770 stack up? I'm looking for 250ohm versions...
Suggestions on headphones for producing music, to use with Audio Interface - Apollo twin solo
Genre - House - Tech House - Tropical
DT 1990 Pro
The plastic sliders get brittle in time and break, luckily you can buy them on ebay 3d printed and will probably last you a lifetime ( original replacement costs a fortune)
I am listening this review with DT880 Pro on my head right now and really like the sound of your voice btw :) I am using them only with Sonarworks reference, cause I can't listen to any modern music cause of low bass. If I was mixing music without Sonarworks, it would end up extremely bass heavy. Also I need a strong headphone amp to use them properly. I like them, but with Sennheiser HD650 I don't have to use any software and they play louder even when they are 300 ohms.
My question is when the headphones are boosted or dialed in at certain ranges, would this limit your mix to sounding good on good systems rather than all systems?
maybe I missed it Josh so ingore this if I did mate, but please could you put the ohm version in future in description. Thanks man. Keep up the great work.
Sounds like they are great for classical music, maybe jazz.
They are!
So, what you mean when you say for beyerdynamics to put a meaning to "pro" is that it has bigger clamping force and a spring cable instead of a straight one compared to the DT 880 edition? Or are you arguing there are actually sound differences?
Also, lets not talk about the useless irritating flapwings on the headband of the DT 880 edition ;S
I owned the
Beyerdynamic DT 990 Premium 600 ohm version and to me all of the
Beyerdynamic have the TREBLE TURNED all the way up, while the bass area is turned down. It just goes to show you that know one likes the same sound or HP. When I had the 990 600 ohm I used allot of highend HP Amp.. Benchmark HPA4 which uses the THX-888 still nothing extremely bright sounding. Tried the Audio Gd Master 9 amp same thing. But I never tried it with my new Felix Euforia Amp. But not a fan at all of
Beyerdynamic.
Sounds like you haven't heard the DT880. But I agree the DT880 is treble overkill.
compared to the ESP/95X i think now that the DT880 detail is artificial and bright leaning
Compared to an elctrostat that can only do highs and mids well, of course.
Hi, i'am running the dt 880 600 ohms on a topping dx3 pro dac/ headphone amplifier. I enjoy it very much but i don't know which one could be a good upgrade to me. Thanks a lot. Best regards from France and congrats for your channel 👍
The “pro” was part of the amp name.
In my opinion yes. The topping is enough powerfull to drive the dt 880. 600 ohms 😉
Good to see this review as this was my first pair of decent headphones and I can now compare more accurately based on your reviews.
Just a tip for any owners or future owners of this headphone: mod them with the toilet paper mod. Fixes the main problem of the piercing spike at the top of the treble. They do not lose any clarity and just makes them balanced. Personally, I could not stand that spike and was never happy with the piercing highs. However, after adding the square of toilet paper and the foam from hd6xx's (the foam being my idea as one ply was not enough, and two plies was too much), it fixed the problem completely.
After adding the mod, this has become my only pair of headphones/earphones that i can happily listen to without any eq. Granted, I still use a +3db eq at 60hz, but if eq is not possible, I can still listen to them without any complaints.
This review also makes it much easier to see if I should later upgrade to the 1990 as they have been reviewed in this channel too. I was surprised when you said the 1990 actually have more treble. However, that is fine as I will be modding them as well. I really like the sound signature of my dt880's so just good get confirmation the dt 1990 are basically its bigger brother.
Did the same thing, tissue paper works wonders on them. If Beyer would drop the level by couple dBs, they would be OK. I like HD600 more than DT880.
More relevant to the DT990.
Hey there, we checked out the headphones from a "haptic" view. What can you hear on quality and materials. Check out the video for this "different" review.
The DT 880 pro black version is 150 euro's atm, i wonder if it's a good pick with the Magni 3+
So I’m thinking about getting the 880 250ohms version, along with the e10k amp... for FPS games and pinpointing footsteps, which headphone should I get?
The 880 is good.
Hi, Thank you for the video. does the cable has a pungent bad smell? I bought one from amazon. The cable seems to be made from some poorly recycled material. I cannot believe it is made in Germany.
Same here, I found the same exact thing the quality of the cable leaves a lot to be desired and the smell stinks. I also don't think the version sold on Amazon has been manufactured in Germany.
I ordered today the 600ohm version for aprox 190$. I could not find dt1990 cheaper then 470$. I will use it eith micro idsd black label.
I have tried DT 770 Pro. I was getting headaches after 10 minutes. I think it was a combination of clamp force, closed headphones, strong bass. I would go for HD600 but out of my budget (EU so VAT). People say 880 have much much less bass compare to 770 and Premium have a really soft clamp. Well, I can try them, or have to find something similar to HD600. Maybe one of their 500 series, but there are so many. Looking for something with LITTLE bass as possible and comfortable. I guess those two are my only criteria. If you happened to know something in these, could you recommend?
You can stretch the band in Beyers as it is made of steel piece. Sennheisers only have parts that slide out made from steel so you need be more careful. All Pro Beyers have higher clamping force than their regular Hi-Fi equivalent, other than that not much of a difference.
For myself I found Sennheisers to be more comfortable, and I also like their tonality more without recessed upper upper mids and peaky highs, although DT880 have slightly wider image. If you look for more natural sound than peaky highs in Beyer maybe look into AKG K612, and Tygr300 looks better from measurements than 770 witch has U shaped signature. Also check Solder Dude site DIY Audio Heaven, measured planty of headphones and moded many including Beyers, Sennheisers, AKGs, ...
DT880.
low bass? AKG is your brand then
Would you recommend this for monitoring the self for podcasting
how is the gaming performance with this headphone?
All the Beyerdynamics with a "Pro" in their name usually tend to have removable headband??
Why have you never done review of DT 770 Pro 250ohm?? All we see are open back or semi-open back headphones from you. Please do DT 770 Pro 250 ohm review.
Currently im using dt 770 pro 80 ohm. Do you think adding jds labs the element amp-dac combo will be overkill for this headphone and fiio e10k would be just enough?
It would be overkill for that one in particular, but if you can afford it than there is always room to grow. Otherwise just go with something more entry level.
The 880's where my first premium headphone. Great detail, but no bass.
DT 770, DT 880 and DT 990 which of these 3 have the flattest or most balanced audio signature for mixing songs?
Johnny Jouha dt880
They all suck in this department.
@@pliedtka agreed.
Hey Josh... I was considering these and 650s.. I don't wanna spend a lot on amp.. maybe a magni 3.. But I am all about Female vocals.. like high pitched vocals. Can you recommend something..?
I own both and I'd lean towards the 6XX/650. The DT880 is not sibilant at all times, but for female vocals it happens more often than not. I really enjoy the sound of the DT880 even though the timbre is not as natural as the Sennheiser's and the Sennheisres to improve a lot more with proper amping than the DT880s.
For gaming, the soundstage of the 6XX makes it a lot easier to identify location, whereas on the DT880 it takes a little more effort to discern the difference.
These are the only 2 full size headphones I own currently, and I don't plan on selling either as they do different things. My plan is to add the K702 and HE500 to my repertoire and use them for different purposes (gaming, different music genres, video editing, movies, etc)
Since also really like this range (high pitched female vocals) and have these two pairs. I'll give my take on it.
First off the DT880. Sound more fun and it not afraid to present those vocals along with every detail. On the downside, it does start reaching into the sibalent territory and can get fatiguing with some vocals. However, with the toilet paper mod (kills the treble spike around 8k) and adding a bit of sub bass with eq (+3db at 60hz), these headphones sound extremely balanced, and detailed.
That leaves the 650's. First off, they'll never fatigue. These things are laid back while still providing all the vocals you could ever want. However, there is a downside to this: the Sennheisser veil. While they are pleasure to listen to, sometimes it does feel like it's missing that extra fun in the highs. This is made worse by the bump 120hz as the extra mid bass will many times start to cover the mid to high range. This was the reason I cannot use them without EQ. Thankfully, they take EQ amazingly well and what is left is amazingly balanced curve, that is never sibilant, and never fatigues while being clear in every aspect.
Saying all that, what I recommend is ordering some Koss ksc75's and trying them out. If you like their lively tone for your music and the slight sibalence doesn't bother you, then the DT 880's will be perfect for you. I find those two to have tonal balance, but the dt 880 is just much more refined and more balanced (especially in the bass region as the koss has a pretty steep drop). If you want a more laid back sound than the the Koss presents, the HD's will be more your style.
EDIT: with all the rambling forgot to mention I do prefer the Beyers, but I do like that extra fun high mids to highs. After modding them, they are my only pair that I can listen to without any EQ.
@@AlumarsX Thanks for the input. Sennheiser surely sounds more natural but Sennheiser 650 does vocals that involves a lot of lower mid emphasis the best. To my ears they tend to roll off just after lower treble region.. I only heard them through sound demos and once in a Sennheiser booth with whatever music they had for just 5-6 minutes.
@@carlos2004 I already own a AT m40x... On any average day I prefer its treble response. I was before considering 1990 pro... but their treble is a touch too much for me especially cymbal crashes made my ears bleed. I personally don't mind sibilance..infact I love sibilant female vocals.
@@AlumarsX
I feel the similarly about 880s, too much treble spike, recessed mids and not enough low bass. Did the same mid with paper tissue and foam to lower highs, but I still feel there's not enough mids and lows. Maybe HD650 but w/o foam in front of the drivers would make them more neutral.
To my ears, all Beyerdynamic headphones are bright, i owed T-1, 1990, 770, 990 and others, nice midrange, they can handle metal music properly, but way too bright! I sold all of them!
@@wcgryphon9059 1990s really aren't that bright, just a few dB in a much narrower treble area compared to let's say 990, which is a true treble cannon. But the treble on the 1990 is of course not recessed at all, which may be the problem with most people. I bet a lot of people think that an overly warm/dark sound is the "neutral" version of it, so you get conflicting opinions on it. I have noticed that tons of music old and new is mastered to be overly bright. I won't use darker headphones, I just prefer to alter the sound files themselves to be less boosted in the treble areas.
That's why I stopped believing community hype. DT880 is the exception to overkill treble and it gets sidelined. Go figure.
I would really be interested if you could get your hands on well burned in dt990 pros. I've seen graphs on the internet show that they totally lose their mount beyer highs when they age.
Burn in on a headphone doesn't exist. Your brain adjusts to the sound and the pads wear in. That's it.
@@dannybos7024 For the 990s its the older more used pads that make them lose their extreme treble supposedly which is why I posted this. So far as burn in with drivers, lets not get into that here lol
@@donvittoriosierra Yeah that's true, but that's what I meant. And no, let's not, because we both know that burning in does jack shit.
The 🏔️ Beyer - perfect way to describe it. Seems like HD6** series also looses highs, becoming totally vailed. Anyway, of the two I lean more towards HD600, because of the Beyer unnatural treble tuning.
Okay guys HE-400i or the newer HE-4xx which has more bass but also has a good soundstage that would complement my HD600?
Joshua keep in consideration reviewing the Pro-Ject Pre Box S2 Digital. It seems a nice DAC, with mqa from Tidal and a Sabre DAC chip. Not so shure about the headphone part. Thanks for hearing me. Greetings from ARgentina!
i just got these for 100 bucks not sure if it was a good deal got them used from a friend. How are these for gaming
Should give the T1.2 a test if you can get one in for review. Longtime beyer fan had most old models and many of the new ones. The T1.2 has some magic that dt880 dt990 are missing, also not as fatiguing as the dt1990 pro.
These or the sennheiser hd560s ? Looking to get my first pair of headphones
I have these but also thinking of getting the dt 177x go would there be any real difference or improvement i know this post is kinda old but hope you can comment Thanks
only one issue with these i found is when using them and a volume the bass does this weird wind blowing like it can't handle high volumes. im running IFI dac v2 amp with can. i dont have this issue with my Hifiman Anada nano and R70x
Hi, I just see the video and I don't know what to buy, DT880 Pro 600 OHM they are good for podcast and editing and listen music ? Maybe you can help me with some advice regarding about what I need for podcast and for listen music. Thank you
DT880 600 Ohm + SPL
Happy to use
Pregunta urgente , acabo de cómpralos pero es normal que el audífono este más aislado uno que otro , un lado en este caso el derecho tiene mejor aislación del sonido que el izquierdo , se nota inclusive a la hora de hablar de un lado escuchas menos que el otro eso es normal en este tipo de audífonos o me vienen con falla ?
Could you also review the MD DT177X GO? And the MD Ether CX? Thanks!
DT177X Go is just smaller DT1770 imo. Watch review to get the image : th-cam.com/video/UMfZipQZB6Q/w-d-xo.html
"space between spaces" - spot on! Thats what is better with their new headphones, the classic generation seems a bit more smeared.
What headphones would you recommend?
Lagoon? For casual music but also home music production?
Thanks for making this video!
This video gives me the vibe that its an apology video
why? Did this guy do something wrong?
@@dwgreen108 well no it just gave me the vibe dunno why
Because he's pandering to the part of the community that shits on everything that's not a recent flagship.
I'd say these are very good for music production, but maybe not so much just for listening to music and relaxing as they are fairly analytical, I prefer my Sony for that. I use mine hooked up to a Schiit Magni3 Heretic plugged into my synthesizers to make music.
You can't say that in general. I love them(DT 880 Edition) precisely because I like to listen to my music analytically. There are different ways of listening to music and therefore there are different headphones that offer a different sound. In my opinion it also depends on the type of music you listen to with the headphones. I listen to 90% film music(mostly Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard and Steve Jablonsky) and classical music and they sound excellent for that imo.
Especially at this price.
I primarily use SHP9500 and M1060 fed by the liquid spark, I got these in premium edition cuz I always liked how Beyerdynamic headphones look. But I returned them after 2 days. The increase in sound quality didn't justify the jump in price from the shp's. The bass of the planar M1060 ruined other dynamic headphones for me personally. Would the more expensive 1990 offer the same rumbling bass the M1060 offer?
7:20 I agree here, I have no idea what people are talking about when they say these have a large soundstage lol.
I don´t need a large stage. I need a realistic soundstage. And that's what the DT 880 have.
how is this compared to DT990?
880 are 990 with felt. Worse detail, more neutral.
I can listen to the DT 880 all day, the DT 990 gets tiresome quickly because of the tonality, treble overkill.
Hey I've watched and enjoyed several of your videos since being told about your channel yesterday. One thing I noticed is the "roominess" and thought I would recommend a Countryman B3 mic. It's a lav, so you clip it on or in your shirt, and I think it would give you a considerable improvement for a minor expense (the wired version is like $180). Good bang for the buck. If you want to clip or tape it inside the shirt, it has a few interchangeable caps that can compensate for the HF reduction.
hi im looking upgrade from my X2HR philips . headphones could delever deep bass ( listing for hip hop ) my X2HR great ! but no deep bass like i want ..
what the diffrent betwen 770-880-990 ?
also 80ohm - 250ohm ?
im using mobo with 3 level of amp - so i dont think i need external amp for this headphones
thanks !
I’m so stuck figuring out which pair to buy. I know I want some Beyerdynamics in this price range so either the 770, 880 or 990, but which ones?
I want to invest in a decent reference headphone to improve my mixes so I thought maybe the 990. However, I also want to be fairly portable with them, be in Starbucks mixing for instance, wired maybe but I really don’t like spending more time in my room than I have to. So would the open back of the 990 cause issues with sound coming in from the outside etc?
In which case maybe the 880 instead? I’m shying away from the 770 because they’re closed back and although the isolation would be great for sitting in Starbucks, I really wanted an open back headphone to get better mixes. That said, I’m currently mixing on a hi fi headphone closed back.
Help!
DT880 is the best out of the three.
@@dannybos7024 Why is this though? Some say they're the worst of the three due to the EQ on them
@@Itsmypureworld The DT770 is filled with bass and closed back so kinda inferior to the others. The DT990 is a treble and bloated bass filled joke if you ask me. The DT880 is neutral with a bright tilt that can be easily EQ'd out for those that are bothered by it.
@@dannybos7024 ok thanks for your reply
@@Itsmypureworld No problem.
Can anyone give me some input on what DAC/AMP to use with these headphones for gaming and music? I play a lot of pc games and would like a good quality stack or combo unit. I'd appreciate any recommendations!
How does this compare to the dt 770 and/or 990? I currently own a dt 770 80ohm and am very happy with it, but I'm curious if these offer more, less or much of the same. Thanks
DT880 is the best. The DT990 is a treble filled joke.
Can you put a mic in them for gaming purposes ?
Any plans to review the Mayflower Arc?
Dt880 pro or Dt 900 pro X
What would be the best DAC/AMP for the 250ohm version of this headphone?
Schiit Magni3+/Modi, JDS Labs Atom stack, Topping stack. Either of these and you're good.
I run my 880's with the Schiit Magni Heresy and SMSL Sanskrit 10th MKII.
Chord mojo ftw
Would the Premium edition be good for mixing? Or is only the Pro model suitable for mixing?
The sound is identical. It comes down to you; do you want a coiled cable and more clamping force? Get the Pro. If not, get the Premium.
@@dannybos7024 The black edition has a slight bass boost and U-curve added. I'd get the pro just to be sure.
@@dannybos7024 clamping force changes sound, they cannot sound identical, clamping force aslo gives more stable sound like when you move or turn your head some headphones suddenly loose or increase bass heavily because the seal changes. ymmv
If the cans are as effective as they are supposed to be, then adjust the mix. That's the whole purpose. If you feel that they are not representative, then say that. But trying to discuss nuance issues without sharing which other equipment you are referencing on... just whining about how you don't like the sound of them is like saying that you don't like a claw at the end of the hammer because it hurt when you dropped it on your foot...
That is NOT the Hammer's fault!
It is an OPERATOR "headspace" & "timing" issue.
Hi Joshua, who is your favorite classical music composer?
J.S. Bach for me
@@dnalekaw4699 Probably Vivaldi but tbh, all of the greats are, well... great.
Do you need an amplifier to run these headphones?
Depends what the ohm is on the model of dt880 your looking at. 32 ohm will run off anything, but other options will sound better. Getting an amp is a worthwhile investment if you want to get into this hobby.
yes, anything above 50 ohm really benefits from a amp
Nice warm sounding with good bass and mid-range. Stay away from analityc, bright amps.
@@pliedtka I guess this would sound complete with a tube amp?
hi!, which ones do you recommend most for mastering dt 880 pro or dt 990 pro?, both of 250 ohm
I recommend the DT 880pro. 880 has a less V curve compared to 990. But doesn't really matter if you are accustomed to any of the model's nuances and tonal signature. All the best.
@@origami74 If your primary purpose is audio production, then I suggest you to find an audio interface with a good preamp power. I don't think I am the right person to suggest the perfect amp.
I use a MOTU M4 Audio Interface and it can handle a 250 ohm headphone easily. So, there's that. By the way, Schiit Audio is a pretty well known amp brand, often suggested by other audiophiles.
How about the bottom end ?
It's clean, it's well seperated and not overbearing.
So these are basically hd600s? How does the base compare? I like my hd600s and just want a little more bass but like them otherwise
Nah, they are HD 600 without enhanced upper mids, but with more boosted treble, especially high treble.
Nah, I would put these two sound signatures in different categories. The the HD goes for the laid back non sibalent sound at the expense of sometimes sounding veiled, while the DT goes all in on the detail even if it means having sibalent piercing highs. I feel both are balanced but each in their respective category of the goal they're trying to achieve.
If you like the sound signature of your HD's I feel you will be unsatisfied with the DT's. If you just want more bass, I recommend just to add it with EQ; they take eq very well and you don't need with anything more on the curve other than the 30-80 range. I think a 2-3db boost at 60hz will make them perfect for you.
@@carlos2004 thanks for the input. I've been on the search for my next headphone to be in the same neighborhood of what I have now, but maybe just a slightly different take just so I can experience something different. I'm new to this. Planar dynamic headphones maybe? Closed back? Its almost like I just need to pick something at random and then just return it if I don't like it. Got any suggestions?
@@colin8601 Yep yep. Order a pair of Koss ksc75's. It will give you a completely different sound signature, although the bass rolls off even more than the dt/hd, but you'll be able to hear the "fun" part the hd's might sometimes miss. And at $15, everyone should own a pair of them.
The only other decent ones that i can recommend are in-ear: the tin t2 and the kz es4. the kz es4's are nothing to gush about, for $20 they're a decent buy with typical cheap in-ear signature of increased bass (although still no true sub bass) and sparkling highs. As for the t2's, I only got them last week, but they deserve the hype. Extremely clear vocals without the highs being too sibalent. They also have mod where you cover the bass port (a tiny hole on the casing) and they give you gratuitous amounts of bass while keeping the fun and balanced mids and highs.
EDIT: I guess I'll mention that the reason I've picked all of these up is because I'm still trying to find the perfect pair that will match or best my home system. Basically I know exactly what I like, but just haven't found the perfect pair that matches it. Also, yes, I use EQ with every single pair to get them closer to my home system.
@@carlos2004 I agree with the t2. Also got the t3 because I had to know if there was a difference
Please review Beyerdynamic Custom Studio 80Ohm. Please make a video on it. I really like your reviews and trust them. Please compare them with dt 770 pro
he-4xx or DT 880 pro ?
880
For 100 quid new I think this would be great to pair with my zen dac
I want a 880 but I'm going to use them for tracking sometimes so I need a closed back...
How does the 770 stack up?
Hey. I had the 770 Pro 80 Ohms version and gave it back to beyerdynamics. Comfort was perfect but the sound of the 770 wasnt that great. After a little research i found out im not the only one who says that. Also the 770 Pro is not "made" for Mixing and Mastering. You should really go for the DT 880 Pro or the DT 990 Pro. But wachtout there are Hi Fi versions and Studio versions. Hope i helped you out
@@FatDeamen hi versions and studio versions? Thought they were the same just rebranded for different stores
@@user-tv3ks4nq7e They're definitely different versions with different eq curves and frequency responses. I wish they told people this