I served in the US Army at the very beginning of the Company level drone operations. I was licensed to operate both the Puma and Raven drones, and really enjoyed flying them in support of Company level ops. I finally got to see them from the enemy perspective during my time as OPFOR in Ft. Irwin California and it really made me appreciate them, as we chose many times to just pull out and run from them since we didn't have a way to notionally "Kill" them. It still amazes me how what is basically a toy airplane has changed war forever!
When the Brits went to war in Afghanistan in 2001 quad rotor drones weren't an off the shelf item. The answer was cold war observation balloons that were operated over the iron curtain in Germany and in Northern Ireland. They dragged lads in their 50s out of retirement using the reserve forces act to operate them. The balloons combined with support weapons such as mortars or machine guns in the indirect fire role seriously restricted freedom of movement for the Taliban. It could be a suitable tool for Ukraine as the loiter time for the balloons runs into days - weather permitting.
How long do you recon such balloons would last before being shot out of the sky? Half an hour? 45 minutes perhaps the first time? I guess Russian AD guys would scrach their heads at what they are looking at on their screens. Good thing that that Talebans didn't have anything in terms of AD more capacitative then 12.7mm eh?
44:00 Lancet and the like will necessitate what is already an ongoing development, that being hard-kill APS on tanks, or at least a great proliferation of SHORAD wherever you have armor on the move. And with the speed and cross-section of a lancet, you probably need automated AAA, not costly SAM, which then again necessitates pretty advanced friend-foe-recognition. Basically it all needs to be automated, spot and identify a fast, small thing and destroy it in a cheap way. Hell of a problem to solve, but armor will need to solve that one to operate.
Hearing David's thoughts on swarming autonomous drones is good timing with the recent news of autonomous lancet drones coming out of Russia with the Izdelie-53.
Personally I'm just as interested in the future countermeasures to drones and drone swarms as I am the drones themselves. Jammers, interceptors, lasers, lightweight SAMs in the form factor of 70mm rockets, the return of anti aircraft autocannons on tank concepts, and doubtless many more I've yet to hear about. Few have been deployed at scale yet, and the drone war over Ukraine could very well have looked massively different if they were, but many look quite promising against at least some types of drone threats, and I imagine the same automation that could makes drones more dangerous could just as easily increase the effectiveness of their counters. It's going to be really interesting to watch this arms race play out in the coming years. See what works, what doesn't, and what was laughable in retrospect. Watch the speciation of military drones and which branches get trimmed, or hunted to extinction. Maybe see if any silver bullets come about that give one or the other unquestioned dominance for a period.
Delightful. I'm about halfway in now, and I appreciate how information dense this video is. You provided plenty of examples, and even detailed a few things I was totally unaware of. Fantastic video, Thank you!
i found it interesting on how you were able to advise someone on use of the indirect MG fire due to you knowledge and work with the vickers and historical training. next step would be for the vickersmg to fly out to ukraine and offer a machine gunners course lmao
I can't help wondering if the most cost effective defense against lancets would be oversize shotguns, after all that's how birds are flight are shot. Alternatively bullets for standard machine guns that separate into several smaller bullets which spread out. Currently they are using machine guns, often in multiple mounts but they only give a limited spread of the ammunition. Proximity fuses are much more expensive and require the ranging to be very accurate.
The most effective counter is electronic warfare; the issue is the range of influence. They can detect operators within 35km but cannot influence the drones until it’s within 2.5km. Next would be drones, jammers and DEWs. Russia has been using small arms since 2018 in Syria, and looking at combat footage, it isn’t practical, seeing as drones can hover undetected and drop munitions or move at a speed of over 100mph. VDV has been sniping with AMR weapons, but again, coverage is limited. The best counter-op I saw was a drone shadowing a Ukrainian drone on return to the hidden Fob, then neutralising them from the source.
Very informative, hopefully someone from the treasury is watching this. The only way to defend against drones is either AA guns, laser weapons and hard kill devices like Trophy on your vehicles.
Ukraine needs to look into LiquidPiston engines. They are extremely lightweight, high power output, small size and can run on several fuels. Perfect for drone usage
David Hambling’s book “swarm troopers” was published in 2015. Does anyone know how relevant the information is, and if a newer book is available or being written around the topic of drones in military service?
25:00 that is such a general officer/defence ministry thing to do. Troops are crying out for an organic capability at platoon and company level, and they come up with units that general officers can push round the board, and aren’t available to platoons or companies.
There's some super interesting aspects that he brought up that I've never heard before. Especially the constant drone threat effect on movement. It sounds miserable to be in a trench like that. I sure hope the US is investing hard into anti drone measures, because China's ability to make tens of thousands is a huge threat.
That RPG carrying drone thing is a genius...it is basically a cheap hellfire and its probably as accurate or even more accurate considering (my opinion) no radio or laser guidance can be as accurate as driving things manually into the target.
Scary stuff and surprisingly cost and kill effective, we’re seeing guys killing men with just 1 grenade or homemade munitions, ugly as hell but effective
I think the Russian military survival manual has the best take on drone warfare - "In modern battlefield, every soldier is a p*rnstar. Cause we are constantly getting f-ed in front of camera."
8:36 I think we've all seen the drones with massive batteries cable tied to them so they've got much longer flight time. They've also 3D printed SO many bit's for the munitions and using the bit's they got to hand to cobble bit's together and use them in way's they were never designed for. War always come up with new designs and new innovations and I'm wonder how many new bit's they've made that'll end up in the consumer marker in the not too distant future? 🤔 15:09 They've DEFINATELY got some skill's, THAT'S for sure. I wonder how heavy that cover was which blew it straight off into the air, ripping it's hinges off and launched it 10m away. No wonder they back up straight away because even a tiny bit of shrapnel would take it out of the air.
One type of countermeasure that wasn't mentioned are shotguns? While the range can be somewhat limited? larger bore weapons like the long barrel 10 gauge semi-auto guns normally used for hunting geese can be fairly effective. This weapon combined with 3" or 3.5" long shells filled with large sized lead shot or pellets have the ability to hit and drop drones, limited only by the shooters eyesight. In most cases, if you can see it? you can kill it. The same can be said for using a rifle but with only one large projectile vs.42 smaller ones each time the trigger is pulled the odds are a LOT lower for a hit. In more and more videos I am seeing shotguns in the background leaning against trench walls, especially when the UA raids Russian trenches and the tenants being evicted depart rather quickly and leave their possessions behind.
@@bgordskinot saying your wrong but for the most part I think that is a more rare weapon for them and ammo is harder to come by due to the nature of its manufacturing though I could be wrong
@@bgordski I know they exist, as someone attempted to import a few of them to the USA a few years ago (and may have succeeded/). I do know that production was very limited, as was the ammo. Perhaps they have started making them again? All of the shotguns I have seen are 12 gauge (a few 20 also) and vary from semi-auto to mostly pump and a few double barrels. This war moves so quickly that an innovation today becomes widespread by everyone tomorrow. The Orc's are a lot of things but it seems that 1 or 2 have more than rocks between their evil ears and are more than willing to copy anything that kills.
Given the prices for american drones US army'd get swarms consisting of one drone at best. Said drone would be capable of surviving jamming of all frequencies, secretly coming back to base but irreparable in any case of malfunction and occasionally dropping state-of-art smart hand-crafted munitions on British allies and black guys.
Very interesting video. One point of criticism, quoting the Orlan at 100k is just repeating russian BS, pretty much. If you actually look at the innards of jammed down Orlans, they are barely above consumer grade, and the only reason that price can be anywhere near true is internal russian corruption, i.e. companies fleecing the state. The real value of them is gonna be a good order of magnitude smaller, making use of any SAM inefficient, at least dollar for dollar ... of course it might still be necessary to protect assets from targeting, but the russians at least win that one on cost (real value, not propaganda value).
Around 15 minutes into the video, you talk about drones dropping grenades into abandoned, imobilised vehicles. What is the point of doing that? As a layman, it seems lime waste of both munitions and just making it harder to potentially recover the vehicle for themselves. Or is it only done to vehicles that they know they won't get, so they deny recovery to the enemy?
There absolutely are 3D parts being used, the FPV drones I believe have some printed parts and a lot of the munition drop mechanisms are as well as well as components for the munitions. Not sure on the Comms nodes but it is certainly possible.
I recall reading somewhere recently that the French military for Benelli Nova pump action shotguns, some of which are going to have long barrels for anti drone use.
Some of the drone footage coming out is really terrifying. They are basically cheap racing drones with what looks like a mortar round on the front and a simple hoop/hook wire contactor to set them off. The injuries are if not outright fatal they are destructive enough to blow off arms, both legs in one go. There's a video of a Russian trying to hide under a kids sled kneeling/crouching on the ground. The drone pilot flew it under the sled and basically right into his crotch. The last view was his pant zipper. Another horrifying one was a slow chase of a Russian up a road. The Russian kept running and looking back, and the drone was slow flying behind him. After several seconds the drone lined up with the back of the Russians head, probably 5 meters away and set off. It killed him immediately, blew off his helmet/jacket/vest, blew all his kit several meters up the road, and the man never moved again. That particular encounter was filmed by an observation drone. Lots of the attacks now are using observations drones. Imagine a battlefield with 4 or 5 drones assigned to every enemy combatant. They are even using dug up Russian AT mines and dropping them in trenches. "Here's your munitions back!" Another interesting use was in a direct fire fight. The Russians were engaged on a front, and the drones came in flank and went suicidal on the individual soldiers taking cover. 10 or 12 men were killed by the drones which rendered the Russians incapable of combat. It appears they are using the batteries around the explosive to great effect. More than one suicide drone has lit it's target on fire, either alive or dead because of the lithium fires. The website funker530 dotcom has many video examples.
@Zala.Lancet Russians reported about street fighting in my city. According to russians sources(telegrams and tv) - big shooting between ZSU and russians partisans near shop that we call Orbita. Problem is that i was there inside and them outside shops during "shooting with 50 dead polish mercenaries " and i did not saw or heard anything.
I liked that the conversation was kept on track by the questions. Yes, it was interrupting, but that's a useful tool in interviews as well as conversations. If one person talks too much, it gets boring.
Will Ukr will be able to produce the required electronics, such as encrypted communication and optics? Will anyone outside of china be able to do that at a cost that allows drones to be used as munitions? How much progress is being made on counter drone weapons? Harassment includes drones chasing russians who try to run away. Even if the drone is unarmed, the guy on ground doesn't know that so they try to run away. Harassment: every time a drone appears in Moscow, the airports are shut down. I have heard that Ukr is flashing firmware upgrades to commercial drones to counter rus jamming or hacking.
no mention of the islamic state? I mean I understand that no one likes to give those demons any credit but they did pioneer some of the techniques we see so much of right?
Guys the drone price 450 bucks is way inflated .A 7inch drone capable to carry an RPG7warhead cost 14.27 ,four motors 32.00.and 45 .00 ESC/EFC (electronic flight controller/electronic speed controller) ELRS Radio receiver 15.00.and a LIPO battery (homemade for long range )16.00.thats it .and all of this can be assembled in less than one hour.Thats around 80 GBP.Thats it ,i made several drones and i know how they work and how easy is to assemble them.David Hambling knows so little of drones ,i wonder what is his book about .I am an FPV pilot and i have learned nothing new of him.Sorry but these so called "experts said that the war will be won by ruzzia and poo-tyin in 3 days"
Haven't read David's book, but have read his articles tracking drone use which have been useful, hence why I invited them on. And David's always had a pretty ground outlook, he's never made a prediction like that haha. Thanks for watching anyway.
@@TheArmourersBenchThank you for your reflection .Right now (as many times before )im re-reading Gen.Julian Hatcher"s notebook .I am a firearm enthusiast (fav chanels CR Arsenal and Fogotten Weapons) Do you have any videos on literature?Im interrested in the arms development of WW1-2.
I disagree we discuss the strengths and weaknesses of both sides. Such as how effective Russia's Lancet has proven but their hampered procurement of quad drones. We discuss Ukraine's use of FPV and DJI drones but their disjointed procurement system and issues with command & control of them.
I served in the US Army at the very beginning of the Company level drone operations. I was licensed to operate both the Puma and Raven drones, and really enjoyed flying them in support of Company level ops. I finally got to see them from the enemy perspective during my time as OPFOR in Ft. Irwin California and it really made me appreciate them, as we chose many times to just pull out and run from them since we didn't have a way to notionally "Kill" them. It still amazes me how what is basically a toy airplane has changed war forever!
When the Brits went to war in Afghanistan in 2001 quad rotor drones weren't an off the shelf item. The answer was cold war observation balloons that were operated over the iron curtain in Germany and in Northern Ireland. They dragged lads in their 50s out of retirement using the reserve forces act to operate them. The balloons combined with support weapons such as mortars or machine guns in the indirect fire role seriously restricted freedom of movement for the Taliban. It could be a suitable tool for Ukraine as the loiter time for the balloons runs into days - weather permitting.
How long do you recon such balloons would last before being shot out of the sky? Half an hour? 45 minutes perhaps the first time? I guess Russian AD guys would scrach their heads at what they are looking at on their screens.
Good thing that that Talebans didn't have anything in terms of AD more capacitative then 12.7mm eh?
That's an excellent conversation, and thank you for adding in the appropriate footage. It made it even more relevant.
Thank you! Glad you found it useful!!
44:00 Lancet and the like will necessitate what is already an ongoing development, that being hard-kill APS on tanks, or at least a great proliferation of SHORAD wherever you have armor on the move. And with the speed and cross-section of a lancet, you probably need automated AAA, not costly SAM, which then again necessitates pretty advanced friend-foe-recognition.
Basically it all needs to be automated, spot and identify a fast, small thing and destroy it in a cheap way.
Hell of a problem to solve, but armor will need to solve that one to operate.
Hearing David's thoughts on swarming autonomous drones is good timing with the recent news of autonomous lancet drones coming out of Russia with the Izdelie-53.
Personally I'm just as interested in the future countermeasures to drones and drone swarms as I am the drones themselves. Jammers, interceptors, lasers, lightweight SAMs in the form factor of 70mm rockets, the return of anti aircraft autocannons on tank concepts, and doubtless many more I've yet to hear about. Few have been deployed at scale yet, and the drone war over Ukraine could very well have looked massively different if they were, but many look quite promising against at least some types of drone threats, and I imagine the same automation that could makes drones more dangerous could just as easily increase the effectiveness of their counters.
It's going to be really interesting to watch this arms race play out in the coming years. See what works, what doesn't, and what was laughable in retrospect. Watch the speciation of military drones and which branches get trimmed, or hunted to extinction. Maybe see if any silver bullets come about that give one or the other unquestioned dominance for a period.
I'm really surprised there aren't more use of lasers to dazzle drones.
I woke up to a TOUGH choice.. A 1hr Perun video on the Wagner mini-coup or an hour TAB on drone warfare.
Going to need more coffee!
Sounds like a pretty good Sunday morning to me. Thank you for watching!
Delightful.
I'm about halfway in now, and I appreciate how information dense this video is. You provided plenty of examples, and even detailed a few things I was totally unaware of. Fantastic video, Thank you!
Many thanks Matt, glad you have found it interesting, makes making these videos worth while.
Excellent proper information with informed analysis and speculation of the future.
Thank you! Really appreciate it.
Just today, I saw a quadcopter fitted to drop an obviously recuperated anti-tank mine with what looked like a handgrenade detonator fitted to it.
Yep, saw that one too. 7kg of explosive, considerable.
I'm officially a dronehead now.
i found it interesting on how you were able to advise someone on use of the indirect MG fire due to you knowledge and work with the vickers and historical training.
next step would be for the vickersmg to fly out to ukraine and offer a machine gunners course lmao
Absolutely fascinating discussion
Thank you John, one I've been wanting to cover for a while but thought best to bring someone who has been tracking it closely.
Is it possible to do more videos like this, talking about the weapons we’ve seen and the future of them for Ukraine or for future conflicts
Where it works I could certainly do that. Could definitely do some videos taking a broader look at weapon types in use etc.
@@TheArmourersBench thanks 👍🏻
This was a very informative video! I will be sharing this with my unit for us to review
Ahh brilliant, thanks for watching!
I can't help wondering if the most cost effective defense against lancets would be oversize shotguns, after all that's how birds are flight are shot. Alternatively bullets for standard machine guns that separate into several smaller bullets which spread out. Currently they are using machine guns, often in multiple mounts but they only give a limited spread of the ammunition. Proximity fuses are much more expensive and require the ranging to be very accurate.
The most effective counter is electronic warfare; the issue is the range of influence. They can detect operators within 35km but cannot influence the drones until it’s within 2.5km. Next would be drones, jammers and DEWs. Russia has been using small arms since 2018 in Syria, and looking at combat footage, it isn’t practical, seeing as drones can hover undetected and drop munitions or move at a speed of over 100mph. VDV has been sniping with AMR weapons, but again, coverage is limited. The best counter-op I saw was a drone shadowing a Ukrainian drone on return to the hidden Fob, then neutralising them from the source.
Very informative, hopefully someone from the treasury is watching this. The only way to defend against drones is either AA guns, laser weapons and hard kill devices like Trophy on your vehicles.
Great video! Keep up the good work! Such interesting part of the war, and great information!
Thank you, the Ukraine series of videos continues to grow (sadly). Thanks for watching.
Very interesting and informative video. Thanks guys.
Modern RC's use AFHDS so they will try to stay in contact with the user. I'm sure those frequencies can be adjusted by a clever person.
This was a very interesting discussion.
Thanks you! Very glad you enjoyed it.
Ukraine needs to look into LiquidPiston engines. They are extremely lightweight, high power output, small size and can run on several fuels. Perfect for drone usage
David Hambling’s book “swarm troopers” was published in 2015. Does anyone know how relevant the information is, and if a newer book is available or being written around the topic of drones in military service?
The was footage of a Russian fpv that chased a Ukrainian speed boat from a beach head a while back. Really made it aware how potent these are.
I really like the added video. Excellent work.
Thank you, thought it would illustrate some of the things we touched on well. Thank you for watching!
25:00 that is such a general officer/defence ministry thing to do. Troops are crying out for an organic capability at platoon and company level, and they come up with units that general officers can push round the board, and aren’t available to platoons or companies.
Brilliant
Great video, thank you putting this together. I appreciate your highly professional content.
Thank you very much!
Great show!
Thank you! More in this format to come.
There's some super interesting aspects that he brought up that I've never heard before. Especially the constant drone threat effect on movement. It sounds miserable to be in a trench like that. I sure hope the US is investing hard into anti drone measures, because China's ability to make tens of thousands is a huge threat.
That RPG carrying drone thing is a genius...it is basically a cheap hellfire and its probably as accurate or even more accurate considering (my opinion) no radio or laser guidance can be as accurate as driving things manually into the target.
Scary stuff and surprisingly cost and kill effective, we’re seeing guys killing men with just 1 grenade or homemade munitions, ugly as hell but effective
Great job, Ukraine! ❤🇺🇸
They aren't just flying in gps mode , there flying fpv drones in accro. Also drone on drone warfare.
Very interesting vid, thanks guys.
Thank you!
I think the Russian military survival manual has the best take on drone warfare -
"In modern battlefield, every soldier is a p*rnstar. Cause we are constantly getting f-ed in front of camera."
Funny…
I don't know where else to point it out, but the version of this that's on "History of Weapons & War" has no sound.
Thanks so much for letting me know. I will fix that ASAP.
8:36 I think we've all seen the drones with massive batteries cable tied to them so they've got much longer flight time. They've also 3D printed SO many bit's for the munitions and using the bit's they got to hand to cobble bit's together and use them in way's they were never designed for. War always come up with new designs and new innovations and I'm wonder how many new bit's they've made that'll end up in the consumer marker in the not too distant future? 🤔
15:09 They've DEFINATELY got some skill's, THAT'S for sure. I wonder how heavy that cover was which blew it straight off into the air, ripping it's hinges off and launched it 10m away. No wonder they back up straight away because even a tiny bit of shrapnel would take it out of the air.
54:15 "where do you see the future of drones is going"..
Drones IS the future...no matter warfare or pizza delivery..
One type of countermeasure that wasn't mentioned are shotguns? While the range can be somewhat limited? larger bore weapons like the long barrel 10 gauge semi-auto guns normally used for hunting geese can be fairly effective. This weapon combined with 3" or 3.5" long shells filled with large sized lead shot or pellets have the ability to hit and drop drones, limited only by the shooters eyesight.
In most cases, if you can see it? you can kill it. The same can be said for using a rifle but with only one large projectile vs.42 smaller ones each time the trigger is pulled the odds are a LOT lower for a hit. In more and more videos I am seeing shotguns in the background leaning against trench walls, especially when the UA raids Russian trenches and the tenants being evicted depart rather quickly and leave their possessions behind.
Orcs have 4 gauge shotguns that are made from 23mm barrels.
@@bgordskinot saying your wrong but for the most part I think that is a more rare weapon for them and ammo is harder to come by due to the nature of its manufacturing though I could be wrong
@@bgordski I know they exist, as someone attempted to import a few of them to the USA a few years ago (and may have succeeded/). I do know that production was very limited, as was the ammo.
Perhaps they have started making them again? All of the shotguns I have seen are 12 gauge (a few 20 also) and vary from semi-auto to mostly pump and a few double barrels.
This war moves so quickly that an innovation today becomes widespread by everyone tomorrow. The Orc's are a lot of things but it seems that 1 or 2 have more than rocks between their evil ears and are more than willing to copy anything that kills.
Interesting times👍
Very. Thanks for watching!
The name of the geolocator app/program please. Nettle/Metal/mettle...???
Cool
Given the prices for american drones US army'd get swarms consisting of one drone at best. Said drone would be capable of surviving jamming of all frequencies, secretly coming back to base but irreparable in any case of malfunction and occasionally dropping state-of-art smart hand-crafted munitions on British allies and black guys.
Very interesting video.
One point of criticism, quoting the Orlan at 100k is just repeating russian BS, pretty much.
If you actually look at the innards of jammed down Orlans, they are barely above consumer grade, and the only reason that price can be anywhere near true is internal russian corruption, i.e. companies fleecing the state.
The real value of them is gonna be a good order of magnitude smaller, making use of any SAM inefficient, at least dollar for dollar ... of course it might still be necessary to protect assets from targeting, but the russians at least win that one on cost (real value, not propaganda value).
Around 15 minutes into the video, you talk about drones dropping grenades into abandoned, imobilised vehicles. What is the point of doing that? As a layman, it seems lime waste of both munitions and just making it harder to potentially recover the vehicle for themselves. Or is it only done to vehicles that they know they won't get, so they deny recovery to the enemy?
Yes, it is done when they can’t recover the vehicle.
The Chinese drone manufacturers are loving this war they are making a fortune and learning so much from it
No doubt there.
Are any parts 3D printed also are any being used as communication relay nodes.
There absolutely are 3D parts being used, the FPV drones I believe have some printed parts and a lot of the munition drop mechanisms are as well as well as components for the munitions. Not sure on the Comms nodes but it is certainly possible.
You look exactly how i imagined
Hahah 👍
I recall reading somewhere recently that the French military for Benelli Nova pump action shotguns, some of which are going to have long barrels for anti drone use.
drones ! no more tankers , no more soldiers ! & keep ships away from land ! stop war ? Arlo was wrong ,singing LOUD won`t stop war ! drones will !
And in the trincheras how to you roll
What’s interesting is that the Chinese monitor and allow this…curious that.
I swear I thought that was Bill Nye at first glance 😆🤣
Some of the drone footage coming out is really terrifying. They are basically cheap racing drones with what looks like a mortar round on the front and a simple hoop/hook wire contactor to set them off. The injuries are if not outright fatal they are destructive enough to blow off arms, both legs in one go. There's a video of a Russian trying to hide under a kids sled kneeling/crouching on the ground. The drone pilot flew it under the sled and basically right into his crotch. The last view was his pant zipper. Another horrifying one was a slow chase of a Russian up a road. The Russian kept running and looking back, and the drone was slow flying behind him. After several seconds the drone lined up with the back of the Russians head, probably 5 meters away and set off. It killed him immediately, blew off his helmet/jacket/vest, blew all his kit several meters up the road, and the man never moved again. That particular encounter was filmed by an observation drone. Lots of the attacks now are using observations drones. Imagine a battlefield with 4 or 5 drones assigned to every enemy combatant. They are even using dug up Russian AT mines and dropping them in trenches. "Here's your munitions back!" Another interesting use was in a direct fire fight. The Russians were engaged on a front, and the drones came in flank and went suicidal on the individual soldiers taking cover. 10 or 12 men were killed by the drones which rendered the Russians incapable of combat. It appears they are using the batteries around the explosive to great effect. More than one suicide drone has lit it's target on fire, either alive or dead because of the lithium fires. The website funker530 dotcom has many video examples.
The can drop anti tank mines with it with simple stuff.
if their $10 unit can beat your $11 unit...you lost the war.
Funny i was sure that 10 000 is less then 45 000. (russia use at least 45 000 drones per month, Ukraine less then 10 000)
Russia loses 45000 drones a month? If true, that's not good.
@@TheArmourersBench according to Марія Берлінська one of leader of aerorozvidka( i am not using russian sources because they lie allot)
I call bs on those numbers tbh.
@Zala.Lancet Russians reported about street fighting in my city. According to russians sources(telegrams and tv) - big shooting between ZSU and russians partisans near shop that we call Orbita. Problem is that i was there inside and them outside shops during "shooting with 50 dead polish mercenaries " and i did not saw or heard anything.
@Zala.LancetRussian sources are still all bullshit. According to them they’ve destroyed Bradleys before they even arrived in Ukraine.
why not just issue shotguns with birdshot?
Drones can fly out of range of birdshot.
Russians are ahead on drones now due to domestic mass production.
shut the front door and let the guest talk ffs
It's a conversation not an interview my dude. It's also free, so enjoy it for what it is.
I liked that the conversation was kept on track by the questions. Yes, it was interrupting, but that's a useful tool in interviews as well as conversations. If one person talks too much, it gets boring.
Will Ukr will be able to produce the required electronics, such as encrypted communication and optics? Will anyone outside of china be able to do that at a cost that allows drones to be used as munitions?
How much progress is being made on counter drone weapons?
Harassment includes drones chasing russians who try to run away. Even if the drone is unarmed, the guy on ground doesn't know that so they try to run away.
Harassment: every time a drone appears in Moscow, the airports are shut down.
I have heard that Ukr is flashing firmware upgrades to commercial drones to counter rus jamming or hacking.
no mention of the islamic state? I mean I understand that no one likes to give those demons any credit but they did pioneer some of the techniques we see so much of right?
Cutting each other off is grating to the point I couldn't finish watching. Geez.
Guys the drone price 450 bucks is way inflated .A 7inch drone capable to carry an RPG7warhead cost 14.27 ,four motors 32.00.and 45 .00 ESC/EFC (electronic flight controller/electronic speed controller) ELRS Radio receiver 15.00.and a LIPO battery (homemade for long range )16.00.thats it .and all of this can be assembled in less than one hour.Thats around 80 GBP.Thats it ,i made several drones and i know how they work and how easy is to assemble them.David Hambling knows so little of drones ,i wonder what is his book about .I am an FPV pilot and i have learned nothing new of him.Sorry but these so called "experts said that the war will be won by ruzzia and poo-tyin in 3 days"
Haven't read David's book, but have read his articles tracking drone use which have been useful, hence why I invited them on. And David's always had a pretty ground outlook, he's never made a prediction like that haha. Thanks for watching anyway.
@@TheArmourersBenchThank you for your reflection .Right now (as many times before )im re-reading Gen.Julian Hatcher"s notebook .I am a firearm enthusiast (fav chanels CR Arsenal and Fogotten Weapons) Do you have any videos on literature?Im interrested in the arms development of WW1-2.
of course the us army is behind there's not enough profit in them - could be a savings for the tax payer But NOOOOOOOO
let the guy finish talking, youre always interupting, i was watching this clip less than 1 minute you already interupted 3X
Hahah. Thanks for watching
Would a shotgun not disable a drone? I am just thinking of clay pigeon shooting
Great unbiased opinion,..... not!
Not sure what you mean to be honest Chris.
@@TheArmourersBench A bit of a one sided view.
Bordering if not plain propaganda for one side.
I disagree we discuss the strengths and weaknesses of both sides. Such as how effective Russia's Lancet has proven but their hampered procurement of quad drones. We discuss Ukraine's use of FPV and DJI drones but their disjointed procurement system and issues with command & control of them.