It enrages me that organizations like this are allowed to continue. That these children are abused like this and no one is going a gorram thing about it.
In America religious freedom is held above ALL other laws, unfortunately. Many churches and isolated religious communities look the other way when in it comes to pedophilia. It should be the opposite.
I was a JW. SHUNNED at 16, I went through hell for almost 2 years while homeless. Many yrs later, now in my 30s, I'm a happy wife and mother and have been healing from the manipulation and brainwash. There were times where I didn't think id make it, but I'm so glad I didn't give up and held on through it all, because NOW, I couldn't imagine having a better, happier life ❤ I want y'all to know it's worth it, YOU'RE WORTH IT, DON'T GIVE UP , ITS POSSIBLE! ❤️
@rainbowfranklin thank you! And I am sorry that your grandmother was changed by them. I hope it wasn't too bad, for yalls relationship and you didn't lose that special bond with her. Having known how they feel about death and paradise, she will have believed that she was just going to sleep for a nap, and that when she wakes up, there will be paradise. It will have been something she likely looked forward to in her last moments and it may have brought her comfort. I only tell you this hoping it brings you comfort, to know what they taught her ..much love ❤️
I was raised JW until CPS threatened to take me away due to the sexual abuse that was being inflicted on me until I was 5 years old. Who was commiting the abuse? My biological father and the kingdom Hall elders. All of these organizations do need to be banned.
The police need to get the children out of those conditions. With all the beatings Michelle received, her parents belong in prison . This is child abuse plain and simple. Thank God Michelle got out.
You are so smart, that as a 8 year old you questioned, what your leaders were saying. Like, even other adults are not questioning, even if it harms them so profoundly.
To hear that Michelle she was abusive for telling her siblings not to talk in the car is so laughable especially coming from Jesse an incestuous abusive psychopath. How in his twisted mind he can even compare the two is beyond belief.
Like a man with 43 wives saying you are tainted if you kiss someone before your wedding day, just doesn't have the same value coming from someone married to young nieces and half sisters
I didn't grow up in a cult HOWEVER this girls story of leaving and her parents conversations after she left with her and what the father said to the siblings..... mirrors my experience soo closely it's eerie.... How her father turned her family against her.... it's sad how I can closely relate to her. I left in a taxi, I left with bare minimum, I hid from my stepfather at friends houses and I was told I "turned my back on the family" My counselor says I mirror a vult survivor and I've always felt uncomfortable with that. I felt it took away from the real cult survivors. But man I am so shaky right now because I feel like a soul sister to this girl. I was beat, I was made to raise my siblings, I was made to do manual labor that was too hard for my body, I was forced to do serious physical labor for punishment..... I'm shaking 🥺😭😭😭 I'm glad she found healing and if she ever sees this. You can message me if you want a friend. It's very isolating going through that, most people don't understand the trauma.
I am sorry you had to endure such abuse. But maybe you were raised in a cult. Cults involve extreme efforts to control , punish , and gaslight members. By that measure, there are cults as small as a couple and cults as large as a country, like North Korea.
The raw emotion in Michelle’s voice is just heartbreaking and inspirational all at once. What a wonderful woman. So smart and so strong! She is making a difference and I’m so proud of her!
It is crazy Michelle's thought and ways of coping as a young child are so universal for disfuncital familes and cross time and space. I am 58 years old and raise in a difuncital family and remeber the thoughts and actions she described as many of my own.
That is awful child abuse! So sorry you had to go through so much emotional and physical abuse. Keep on succeeding, keep on fighting 💪for your well being. So proud of you! God bless 🙏
Michelle is one of the strongest, smartest, most inspiring women I have ever seen! Thank you, Michelle, for being a bright light in our sometimes dark world!
Thank you for sharing your story, Michelle. The fact that your kids are free to be themselves and are growing up in a supportive environment means you have broken the generational trauma of abuse. That is MONUMENTAL. ❤
Michelle, you were obviously thinking like a cop gathering all that evidence before leaving! such a brave and logical thinker, you"re going to do so much good for others! go girl! Be safe, dear one! thank you for sharing your experiences. Shelise, thanks again for creating space for these folks-that's brave boots on the ground enough!
Michelle is so incredibly STRONG. You can hear in her voice it still upsets her (how could it not????) I commend her for finding the strength to go through the whole process and coming out such an amazing person.
While I didn't go through the same levels of abuse as an LDS kid, I'm so thankful that light is being shone on the whole Mormon sphere. Thank you so much for sharing your story. We will be the generation to break the cycle ❤
Were you lds in early 1800s. Because lds doesn't do polygamy for nearly 80 years. Are you talk FLDS? Because that was different. If you don't know the difference you were neither lds nor FLDS
@@stacy6994 Wow. You are triggered! There are lots of branches that never gave up polygamy. ALL of these religions are nasty and horrible and if you are in one, instead of attacking others who are getting out, perhaps think again and look at the evidence. Cults injure people and they are based on nonsense made up by religious leaders for their own benefit.
@@stacy6994Ah yes the paedo protecting at best, because let's face it any church leader who can defend not reporting paedos to protect the church, has probably abused children themselves isn't sealed to two women
From what I remember, Lifeline put out a statement later saying they realized they were being used by a cult to keep their youth from escaping. Lifeline stopped taking these kids, or at least counseled them in ways they could get help to leave.
To me they seem to be disgusted supporters of abusive & dysfunctional families ... Hard to believe that ANYONE or ANY institution will aid rapists like Paul and murderers like - was it David who shook his baby to death ... ? 💀 These are Satan's servants.
I hear hurt, pain, and anger in this intelligent young lady's voice. I wish her the best. Its amazing that her mom didn't starve....what terrible blackmail that woman tried to inflict upon her own daughter.
I’m so happy to see Michelle and the other warriors from Escaping Polygamy. It’s been a long time since the show aired. I’ve been wondering how she was doing after her video with Amanda Rae. Knowing she was Jesse’s first kid to leave alone really stayed with me. Go Michelle!!! You’re living your life on your own terms. I just know your kids will have a better life than the one you had. Thank you for sharing your vulnerability and honesty. Us Outsiders send so much love and empathy for you and your family still stuck in the order. I hope they find the light and truth on the outside ❤
Michelle you were that good kid they wanted. They just couldn’t fully control you and that’s what was “wrong”. You deserved so much better. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to have lost your family but you did the right (and difficult) thing for the family you have now. You are an angel and seeing who you are today vs that scared little girl on Escaping Polygamy is unreal. I’m proud of you and I’ve said this before, but even though I’m older than you I want to be you when I grow up 😭💜
The cognitive manipulation and physical and emotional abuse inflicted by her parents is beyond disgusting -- she is describing torture. I am so sorry Michelle suffered such inhumanity and so, so glad she rose from these depths.
in the other video she completed public highschool by 15, that's not "next to no education". And honestly the way you phrased that to begin with is just rude af even to people who didn't have the same advantages as you. Don't talk down to people sharing themselves they aren't your inspiration porn.
It makes me sad that there are people who are manipulating and abusing their children, spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically. All because of distorted religious beliefs. So glad that this young lady was able to escape. Take care snd thank you for sharing your life experience.
The lock-and-key analogy to polygamy is just great. You just have to add the little detail that behind every lock there is a person in bondage, or more likely, a whole family in bondage. The person with the master key is not keeping the people behind the doors safe, he is keeping them for his private use.
But, let's face it, very few (any?) women would tolerate having more than one husband. And it's so transparent that the multiple wives are to increase the population in the cult. A woman can only have so many babies and so having multiple husbands would not bring about that same effect.
Shelise YES YOU ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND!!! I believe it is said : " The first step to solving a problem is IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM." ( Something to that effect. ) Your guests, John ( I believe it is ), and yourself are bringing AWARENESS ( IDENTIFYING ) the PROBLEM so a solution CAN BE FOUND.
Michelle, just wow. You are incredible! I wish you all the best and I think that you'll truly make a change when you become a police officer. Heck, you already ARE making such a difference! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
OMG Michelle You Go Girl!! I Said on your last video You are a A Warrior But I Think You Are Bad Ass Warrior I don't even know you But I Am Freaking Proud of You So Much Your Daughter and Son Will be So Proud of You Truckloads of Love to You and Your Family 💕🐨🦘
Shelise, you are working so hard putting out all of these interviews! Thank you for being so passionate about what you do. You deserve all the success in the world!
Thank you Michelle for sharing your incredible journey, and thank Shelise Ann Sola for doing what you do. I know that Michelle will make a wonderful cop - so strong, bright, and brave!
Wow.. this was a HEAVY one. I'm stunned by your true spirit, your strength and resillance Michelle!!!!! You are doing so much to dismantle these horrible systems that keep people literally captive. Special thanks to you for telling your story, and to Shelise Ann Sola for facilitating so flawlessly and delicately, and to the Cults to Consiousness team. Thank you!
Her escaping polygamy episode was very intense. I remember.....I believe her when she says that show saved her life. ❤ She should be so proud of herself!! I love watching her guest appear on Amanda Rae's channel. ❤
I’m so glad escaping polygamy saved so many lives… I do hope one day you do interviews about the abuse within escaping polygamy. Amanda Rae talks quite a bit about it on her channel and I think it’s an important piece to some victims stories - leaving an abusive cult and falling to hands of an abusive “savior” is a very dark truth for a lot of people fleeing high demand organizations.
I’ve never wanted to jump through the screen and hug someone so much. You sweet, sweet girl❤️ you’re decades beyond your age and I’m so so sorry you’ve had to grow up so terribly fast. The abuse you’ve been through can never be rectified, but I truly hope you’ve been able to find the right people to hold you up when you feel down❤️
I grew up in a cult and completely understand what it feels like to feel not sure what to do when you’re out. Not understanding money was a biggg hurdle for me as we were always so poor, I thought my mom buying me a drink at the gas drink was the biggest treat. The imposter syndrome and parentification are still facets of myself today I have to come to terms with. Thank you Michelle for sharing your story and being open and blunt. I know it’s not easy and it’s practice but you’re doing so well and you’ll keep continuing to thrive. Let’s make the world a better place.
Yaaaa Michelle!!! ❤❤❤ The world absolutely needs good police! We need people who know what it's like to be manipulated by your family, and someone who will SPEAK UP for victims, in their moment of crisis!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ So much respect for you 💞
Michelle, I’ve watched since Escaping Polygamy and was thrilled when I came across Amanda Rae’s channel and got to see some of you and your cousins. I am so amazed at the strength, bravery, fortitude, and courage you all have. To have survived that abusive, manipulative cult and come out on top as you guys have is an inspiration. I know I’m just a stranger, but I’m so proud of you all and send you positivity and love. Take care of yourself and your babies! 💜🤗💜
Thank you Michelle for sharing the end of your story. It’s so uplifting for me in middle age, to see younger survivors of cults and religious trauma find meaning and purpose in their lives, and do better than I was able to (due to ignorance and lack of support). Thank you once again to Shelise, this channel has helped me explore things no counsellor has ever been able to understand, due to the rarity of this experience in the UK. Your work is valuable, and it helps so much to feel that others understand ❤
This was the hardest so far to watch of the order members. I feel so much for these women and the BS they have to deal with. Y'all are rockstars, and please, keep spreading the word of these terrible cults. I'm so glad you got out!!
Michelle’s story reminds me so much of when I escaped my Jehovah’s Witness family home. I can feel her pain as she tells her story…that was my story too. 😢
Michelle, as you well know, your decision was the only decision you could have made. In a few years maybe, one or more of your siblings may see the glimmer of hope you have given and they may follow you. Just know that you are loved from near and far. Your story is one of endurance, courage and strength. Be proud of yourself and never falter in your freedom. May love and peace be with you always. xx from Australia
These videos are so heavy. I can't binge-watch them. Sometimes I can't even finish one in a single sitting. But thank you for telling these stories. The world needs to know their stories so we can stop them from happening again.
Its so amazing that she is going into law enforcement to help people, I was watching an interview with one of the social workers or whatever who was one of the first into the FLDS compound in Texas. How many errors they made because they had no idea what they were walking into. It took Elissa Wall sitting them down and explaining everything. Having someone they can contact easily will really help future people try to get out or even just get help. Its really scary that lifeline was still helping abuse order kids only a couple of years ago, although that person and Priscilla have contacted them to let them know the reality
Michelle's story is heartbreaking! I wish her all the best in her new life. She's an amazing,smart and strong woman who has endured abuse no child should ever go through.
Michelle -I heard you say that you "made" someone beat you. That was always THEIR choice! You're an beautiful, wise & intelligent person. I'm sure you know this now.
Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how strong human beings can be in the face of such abuse, I sincerely hope you have found some peace and happiness now Michelle.
From Angele💝 I left a message with the other video on Michelle. But, I need to say: Michelle, you are a special person. So strong. So beautiful. Like the other person said: BADASS!!!!!!!!! You go girl.
Michelle, you are a survivor. Stop the guilt of accountability about your childhood. You had no choice, no options and were forced to go into self preservation mode aka surviving. I’ll pray for your siblings still living under the orders control
Still absolutely ADORE you guys digging deeper into multiple perspectives from a similar place. *Michelle,* KEEP STRONG. your trauma is so complex, you are doing a beautiful job at taking charge of your narrative and making the life you deserve. You are SO strong, your will and desire to understand and move on is inspiring. Be well Love and support as always! 🖤🖤
Dear Michelle, you are an incredibly strong person ... 💪 The way you described your childhood made a huge impact on me 😢 ... I am so happy you took this turtourous path to escape & make a better life for yourself ... ❤️🙏 Please take my apologies for me sometimes airing my anger 🤬 and frustration - I would love to repay your dad & mum what they inflicted on you ...
Unbelievable what you Michelle and so many of your family had to endure. Your mother had to fast while she had a new born child, that is so bad. And all the beating. How strong you are. Michelle I wish you and your children all the best🍀🍀🍀 take care 🤗
I left fundamentalist mormonism (AUB) after 23 years of marriage (2nd wife). I can do relate to the strength and courage Michelle had to have to leave. She just wanted to be "good". Leaving would be just the opposite, and there is such confusion and heartbreak in the decision to walk away and still feel like you are a "good" person.
Michelle is so strong for escaping this abuse. It breaks my heart that she feels she abused her siblings when she was also a victim in that situation. I completely understand her guilt, but she was forced into that position. It's so awful Listening to how she wants to better the world filled my heart. I'm amazed.
I'm sending a billion hugs to both of you lovely, strong, brave ladies. You are truly HEROS. I didn't grow up in a cult, but I did grow up in a very manipulative, abusive home. Head game, physical abuse.. all of it. I remember wanting to unalive myself in elementary school. I'm happy you got out. You being your own validation is so liberating. Let the healing begin beautiful soul.
It was a really cool episode to just hear a girls' story. It wasn't salacious or sensationalised, but practical and real. Thank you both, it opened up a door without judgement.
I feel so bad you can hear the nerves in her voice. Im glad youre out girl. Theres alot of us out here that are cheering on everyone brave enough to find a way to freedom ❤
Had to come back to hear the second part of her story. I'm sorry for what she went through, nobody deserves it. Michelle, you're one of the few soon to be cops i can support 100% because you understand.
I am so proud of you for getting out from underneath all of that and for being such a good parent. I know you will rock and whatever you choose to do. I wish you nothing but the best. Also, i love this channel. You do so much good. Thank you and keep it up.
My childhood was nowhere near as horrific but so many of the same things happened- eating out of the trash, social isolation, anorexia, being "betrothed" as a child, only allowable friends are siblings, child labor, working constantly, being complicit in the abuse of siblings, the relief and hope they'll just forget you when they lock you up somewhere. Narcissistic parents and fundamentalist religion, every time. My mother literally filled the master closet (these are enormous in Texas- the size of a bedroom anywhere else) with unopened toys no-one was allowed to touch with the pretext they'd be Christmas gifts "someday". I haven't seen her in almost 20 years, they're probably still there. I think my parents have forgotten I ever existed, thankfully.
Idk about that hon, did you hear the part where she's got two kids, and is in school & that and I'm pretty sure she works too 😅 So I'm just saying don't hold your breath on that. 😅 And besides Amanda shares her platform so well 🫶
Shelise, thank you for this channel!! I have a Christian Pastor friend who moved from Metro Detroit, Michigan to Utah to help the Mormon community. Through your channel I have learned about the different sects of Mormonism that exist. Before this channel I knew of LDS & FLDS. I didn't know about the AUB, the Order, etc. He has now been "Loving Utah" 15+ years helping Mormons get out of the fear based religions. His organization is called Loving Utah.
Michelle.....i have watched every interview youve done, i think. You have grown so tremendously from just the first interviews i saw you do on amandas channel to this. Its amazing to see you come out of your shell and get to know what an awesome person you are! I truly feel a sense of pride that we share a name and initials, however silly that is. 😂 You are truly inspiring, brave, well spoken, wise beyond your years, and so caring and kind. I find myself so excited for your children for the life they get to live, with such an awesome mama!!!! You will make an incredible police officer, how amazing that you will get to provide love and compassion and protection for those who need it. Thanks for being so willing to share. While your story is absolutely heartbreaking and gut wrenching, there is such a beauty that comes from knowing you were able to break the cycle. Im thrilled to see where you take things and what changes you make!!! You and your family (cousins) have already done so much by teaching and sharing with others to raise awareness. And so we can all get to know you and love your hearts and strength!!! A billion hoorahs for you, you are such a beautiful person and I actually find myself tearing up knowing what opportunities are there for you all and how far youve already come and where youre going. Shalise said it so well, You are a badass!!!! And your last quote was so true and inspiring, what a wise young lady you are!! 💜💜💜💜💜
I am sorry you suffered so much during your childhood. You deserved so much better than what you experienced! Please take care of yourself and be sure to spoil yourself now to make up for the loss.
Michelle is going to make one hell of a fine police officer. Bravery and empathy is a rare and powerful combination.
She’s smart and very hard working as well:)
It enrages me that organizations like this are allowed to continue. That these children are abused like this and no one is going a gorram thing about it.
As long as “religion” is allowed to overrule law, this will happen. I personally think law must come first to protect children and others.
@@ankikingright? There's a reason why the church and the government have been split up! The law always needs to come first
The amount of cities where the officers and judicial system is a part of the cults is shocking. No one cares to save us.
@@ankikingwhich law and religion are supposed to be divided! It is so baffling how much religion still has a hold on the U.S.A
In America religious freedom is held above ALL other laws, unfortunately. Many churches and isolated religious communities look the other way when in it comes to pedophilia. It should be the opposite.
I was a JW. SHUNNED at 16, I went through hell for almost 2 years while homeless.
Many yrs later, now in my 30s, I'm a happy wife and mother and have been healing from the manipulation and brainwash.
There were times where I didn't think id make it, but I'm so glad I didn't give up and held on through it all, because NOW, I couldn't imagine having a better, happier life ❤
I want y'all to know it's worth it, YOU'RE WORTH IT, DON'T GIVE UP , ITS POSSIBLE! ❤️
@rainbowfranklin thank you! And I am sorry that your grandmother was changed by them. I hope it wasn't too bad, for yalls relationship and you didn't lose that special bond with her.
Having known how they feel about death and paradise, she will have believed that she was just going to sleep for a nap, and that when she wakes up, there will be paradise. It will have been something she likely looked forward to in her last moments and it may have brought her comfort. I only tell you this hoping it brings you comfort, to know what they taught her ..much love ❤️
You should be a guest! I’m very glad you are fine now. The more people who speak out against these nasty cults the better!
So so sorry to hear what horrible upbringing that you have been raised and thank God that you made it and living a Happiest life God bless 🙌 😊 ❤️
So happy for you.
I was raised JW until CPS threatened to take me away due to the sexual abuse that was being inflicted on me until I was 5 years old. Who was commiting the abuse? My biological father and the kingdom Hall elders. All of these organizations do need to be banned.
The police need to get the children out of those conditions. With all the beatings Michelle received, her parents belong in prison . This is child abuse plain and simple. Thank God Michelle got out.
Badass. Rockstar. Legend. So glad people like Michelle (and Shelise!) exist. It makes me feel like humankind is worth something after all.
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everything u said!!!!!!!!
Ditto ❤
You are so smart, that as a 8 year old you questioned, what your leaders were saying. Like, even other adults are not questioning, even if it harms them so profoundly.
"I'm going to die behind that 7 11 garbage can, that's my garbage can "
Before I even watch this i wanna say thank you Michelle for doing this i know it couldnt have been easy. Thank you for telling your story.
To hear that Michelle she was abusive for telling her siblings not to talk in the car is so laughable especially coming from Jesse an incestuous abusive psychopath. How in his twisted mind he can even compare the two is beyond belief.
If the topic wasn't so serious, I would have laughed at the hypocrisy. If I could say one thing to Jesse, it'd be "Look in a mirror, you prick!"
Like a man with 43 wives saying you are tainted if you kiss someone before your wedding day, just doesn't have the same value coming from someone married to young nieces and half sisters
This poor girl has been through hell. Her resiliency is incredible. I so hope she knows nothing but the most love and happiness going forward. ❤
I didn't grow up in a cult HOWEVER this girls story of leaving and her parents conversations after she left with her and what the father said to the siblings..... mirrors my experience soo closely it's eerie....
How her father turned her family against her.... it's sad how I can closely relate to her.
I left in a taxi, I left with bare minimum, I hid from my stepfather at friends houses and I was told I "turned my back on the family"
My counselor says I mirror a vult survivor and I've always felt uncomfortable with that. I felt it took away from the real cult survivors. But man I am so shaky right now because I feel like a soul sister to this girl.
I was beat, I was made to raise my siblings, I was made to do manual labor that was too hard for my body, I was forced to do serious physical labor for punishment.....
I'm shaking 🥺😭😭😭
I'm glad she found healing and if she ever sees this. You can message me if you want a friend. It's very isolating going through that, most people don't understand the trauma.
I am sorry you had to endure such abuse. But maybe you were raised in a cult. Cults involve extreme efforts to control , punish , and gaslight members. By that measure, there are cults as small as a couple and cults as large as a country, like North Korea.
The raw emotion in Michelle’s voice is just heartbreaking and inspirational all at once. What a wonderful woman. So smart and so strong! She is making a difference and I’m so proud of her!
It is crazy Michelle's thought and ways of coping as a young child are so universal for disfuncital familes and cross time and space. I am 58 years old and raise in a difuncital family and remeber the thoughts and actions she described as many of my own.
She’s so brave! I remember watching all of Escaping Polygamy. Her episode was heartbreaking (as were they all)
That is awful child abuse! So sorry you had to go through so much emotional and physical abuse. Keep on succeeding, keep on fighting 💪for your well being. So proud of you! God bless 🙏
Michelle is one of the strongest, smartest, most inspiring women I have ever seen! Thank you, Michelle, for being a bright light in our sometimes dark world!
Thank you for sharing your story, Michelle. The fact that your kids are free to be themselves and are growing up in a supportive environment means you have broken the generational trauma of abuse. That is MONUMENTAL. ❤
Michelle, you were obviously thinking like a cop gathering all that evidence before leaving! such a brave and logical thinker, you"re going to do so much good for others! go girl! Be safe, dear one! thank you for sharing your experiences. Shelise, thanks again for creating space for these folks-that's brave boots on the ground enough!
Michelle is so incredibly STRONG. You can hear in her voice it still upsets her (how could it not????) I commend her for finding the strength to go through the whole process and coming out such an amazing person.
While I didn't go through the same levels of abuse as an LDS kid, I'm so thankful that light is being shone on the whole Mormon sphere. Thank you so much for sharing your story. We will be the generation to break the cycle ❤
Were you lds in early 1800s. Because lds doesn't do polygamy for nearly 80 years. Are you talk FLDS? Because that was different. If you don't know the difference you were neither lds nor FLDS
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Wow. You are triggered! There are lots of branches that never gave up polygamy. ALL of these religions are nasty and horrible and if you are in one, instead of attacking others who are getting out, perhaps think again and look at the evidence. Cults injure people and they are based on nonsense made up by religious leaders for their own benefit.
@@stacy6994Ah yes the paedo protecting at best, because let's face it any church leader who can defend not reporting paedos to protect the church, has probably abused children themselves isn't sealed to two women
From what I remember, Lifeline put out a statement later saying they realized they were being used by a cult to keep their youth from escaping. Lifeline stopped taking these kids, or at least counseled them in ways they could get help to leave.
I’m SO happy to hear that! Thanks for sharing
Uhuh. So now just people outside the cult are locked in a place worse than the cult?
To me they seem to be disgusted supporters of abusive & dysfunctional families ...
Hard to believe that ANYONE or ANY institution will aid rapists like Paul and murderers like - was it David who shook his baby to death ... ? 💀
These are Satan's servants.
I hear hurt, pain, and anger in this intelligent young lady's voice. I wish her the best. Its amazing that her mom didn't starve....what terrible blackmail that woman tried to inflict upon her own daughter.
I’m so happy to see Michelle and the other warriors from Escaping Polygamy. It’s been a long time since the show aired. I’ve been wondering how she was doing after her video with Amanda Rae. Knowing she was Jesse’s first kid to leave alone really stayed with me. Go Michelle!!! You’re living your life on your own terms. I just know your kids will have a better life than the one you had. Thank you for sharing your vulnerability and honesty. Us Outsiders send so much love and empathy for you and your family still stuck in the order. I hope they find the light and truth on the outside ❤
I remember her episode! I am SO happy to see that she forged a life outside the order and didn't get sucked back in.
Michelle you were that good kid they wanted. They just couldn’t fully control you and that’s what was “wrong”. You deserved so much better. I can’t imagine how hard it must be to have lost your family but you did the right (and difficult) thing for the family you have now. You are an angel and seeing who you are today vs that scared little girl on Escaping Polygamy is unreal. I’m proud of you and I’ve said this before, but even though I’m older than you I want to be you when I grow up 😭💜
Every time her voice breaks my heart hurts for her. I really hope she’s healing from everything she’s had to go through.
The cognitive manipulation and physical and emotional abuse inflicted by her parents is beyond disgusting -- she is describing torture. I am so sorry Michelle suffered such inhumanity and so, so glad she rose from these depths.
It’s so inspiring to see people raised with next to no education go on to college/university 😊
in the other video she completed public highschool by 15, that's not "next to no education". And honestly the way you phrased that to begin with is just rude af even to people who didn't have the same advantages as you. Don't talk down to people sharing themselves they aren't your inspiration porn.
says a lot aboutthe USA education system
@@xenohazardmost likely she was pulled out of school at 15. No way can you complete high school at that age
She completed and graduated from high school at 15. It's not that hard as school is so dumbed down now.
I agree. It is impressive, and I didn't find this insulting like other people are saying. I understand your point and it's a good one.
❤ I’m so happy she got out and she’s living a life she looks forward to. That’s what it means to be free, freedom of choice, speech, expression,
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It makes me sad that there are people who are manipulating and abusing their children, spiritually, mentally, emotionally and physically. All because of distorted religious beliefs. So glad that this young lady was able to escape. Take care snd thank you for sharing your life experience.
The lock-and-key analogy to polygamy is just great. You just have to add the little detail that behind every lock there is a person in bondage, or more likely, a whole family in bondage. The person with the master key is not keeping the people behind the doors safe, he is keeping them for his private use.
Great point.
Great description.
But, let's face it, very few (any?) women would tolerate having more than one husband. And it's so transparent that the multiple wives are to increase the population in the cult. A woman can only have so many babies and so having multiple husbands would not bring about that same effect.
Shelise YES YOU ARE BOOTS ON THE GROUND!!!
I believe it is said : " The first step to solving a problem is IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM." ( Something to that effect. )
Your guests, John ( I believe it is ), and yourself are bringing AWARENESS ( IDENTIFYING ) the PROBLEM so a solution CAN BE FOUND.
I appreciate that!
Michelle, just wow. You are incredible! I wish you all the best and I think that you'll truly make a change when you become a police officer. Heck, you already ARE making such a difference! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You can hear the trauma in her voice. My heart goes out to her. She's very brave and strong for leaving. I'm glad she got out of that cult.
OMG Michelle You Go Girl!! I Said on your last video You are a A Warrior But I Think You Are Bad Ass Warrior I don't even know you But I Am Freaking Proud of You So Much Your Daughter and Son Will be So Proud of You Truckloads of Love to You and Your Family 💕🐨🦘
Shelise, you are working so hard putting out all of these interviews! Thank you for being so passionate about what you do. You deserve all the success in the world!
Cults to Consciousness is STILL BOOTS ON THE GROUND!! ♥️♥️♥️
Thank you Michelle for sharing your incredible journey, and thank Shelise Ann Sola for doing what you do. I know that Michelle will make a wonderful cop - so strong, bright, and brave!
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Wow.. this was a HEAVY one. I'm stunned by your true spirit, your strength and resillance Michelle!!!!! You are doing so much to dismantle these horrible systems that keep people literally captive. Special thanks to you for telling your story, and to Shelise Ann Sola for facilitating so flawlessly and delicately, and to the Cults to Consiousness team. Thank you!
Extraordinary woman ❤: Michelle ! You have a life ahead to live and love ! You are the proof of this possible “change” you’re talking about.
Her escaping polygamy episode was very intense. I remember.....I believe her when she says that show saved her life. ❤ She should be so proud of herself!! I love watching her guest appear on Amanda Rae's channel. ❤
THANK YOU for uploading this so close to part 1 - I couldnt wait to continue listening! She is an incredibly collected and strong person.
I’m so glad escaping polygamy saved so many lives… I do hope one day you do interviews about the abuse within escaping polygamy. Amanda Rae talks quite a bit about it on her channel and I think it’s an important piece to some victims stories - leaving an abusive cult and falling to hands of an abusive “savior” is a very dark truth for a lot of people fleeing high demand organizations.
I’ve never wanted to jump through the screen and hug someone so much. You sweet, sweet girl❤️ you’re decades beyond your age and I’m so so sorry you’ve had to grow up so terribly fast. The abuse you’ve been through can never be rectified, but I truly hope you’ve been able to find the right people to hold you up when you feel down❤️
I grew up in a cult and completely understand what it feels like to feel not sure what to do when you’re out. Not understanding money was a biggg hurdle for me as we were always so poor, I thought my mom buying me a drink at the gas drink was the biggest treat. The imposter syndrome and parentification are still facets of myself today I have to come to terms with. Thank you Michelle for sharing your story and being open and blunt. I know it’s not easy and it’s practice but you’re doing so well and you’ll keep continuing to thrive. Let’s make the world a better place.
Michelle, so happy for you that you escaped that torture, abuse and brainwashing.
Best wishes to you!
Yaaaa Michelle!!! ❤❤❤ The world absolutely needs good police! We need people who know what it's like to be manipulated by your family, and someone who will SPEAK UP for victims, in their moment of crisis!!!!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ So much respect for you 💞
Michelle, I’ve watched since Escaping Polygamy and was thrilled when I came across Amanda Rae’s channel and got to see some of you and your cousins. I am so amazed at the strength, bravery, fortitude, and courage you all have. To have survived that abusive, manipulative cult and come out on top as you guys have is an inspiration. I know I’m just a stranger, but I’m so proud of you all and send you positivity and love. Take care of yourself and your babies! 💜🤗💜
Thank you Michelle for sharing the end of your story. It’s so uplifting for me in middle age, to see younger survivors of cults and religious trauma find meaning and purpose in their lives, and do better than I was able to (due to ignorance and lack of support). Thank you once again to Shelise, this channel has helped me explore things no counsellor has ever been able to understand, due to the rarity of this experience in the UK. Your work is valuable, and it helps so much to feel that others understand ❤
Thank you for sharing that. It means so much knowing it’s making a real difference in people’s lives!❤️🙏
This was the hardest so far to watch of the order members. I feel so much for these women and the BS they have to deal with. Y'all are rockstars, and please, keep spreading the word of these terrible cults. I'm so glad you got out!!
Michelle’s story reminds me so much of when I escaped my Jehovah’s Witness family home. I can feel her pain as she tells her story…that was my story too. 😢
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I am so pleased for Michelle. She is going to be so awesome. The world needs more people like her.
Michelle, as you well know, your decision was the only decision you could have made. In a few years maybe, one or more of your siblings may see the glimmer of hope you have given and they may follow you. Just know that you are loved from near and far. Your story is one of endurance, courage and strength. Be proud of yourself and never falter in your freedom. May love and peace be with you always. xx from Australia
These videos are so heavy. I can't binge-watch them. Sometimes I can't even finish one in a single sitting. But thank you for telling these stories. The world needs to know their stories so we can stop them from happening again.
These are just the most courageous women ever. Mind blowing bravery. I have no words.
I aspire to be like these women. I am awed by Michelle's self-claimed power.
Its so amazing that she is going into law enforcement to help people, I was watching an interview with one of the social workers or whatever who was one of the first into the FLDS compound in Texas. How many errors they made because they had no idea what they were walking into. It took Elissa Wall sitting them down and explaining everything. Having someone they can contact easily will really help future people try to get out or even just get help. Its really scary that lifeline was still helping abuse order kids only a couple of years ago, although that person and Priscilla have contacted them to let them know the reality
Michelle's story is heartbreaking! I wish her all the best in her new life. She's an amazing,smart and strong woman who has endured abuse no child should ever go through.
I’m so impressed and proud of you Michelle. Good luck to your career. ❤❤❤
Thank you for this second part of the interview. Michelle is an amazing woman to go through so much and end up in a good space.
Michelle -I heard you say that you "made" someone beat you. That was always THEIR choice! You're an beautiful, wise & intelligent person. I'm sure you know this now.
Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how strong human beings can be in the face of such abuse, I sincerely hope you have found some peace and happiness now Michelle.
From Angele💝 I left a message with the other video on Michelle. But, I need to say: Michelle, you are a special person. So strong. So beautiful. Like the other person said: BADASS!!!!!!!!! You go girl.
I remember watching your freedom. It is SOOO comforting to know you MADE IT! so proud of you!!!
Love what you've decided to do as a profession/being a police officer!! Nice work Michelle 💕
Love hearing about this side of your story Michelle🤍💜🤍. Yes even family doesn't realize everything you've gone through. One tough Lady ❤️🔥🦄
You are so strong and brave. I am disgusted by your mom’s behaviors.
Break the silence. Break the cycle.
I totally get this. I escaped a cult over 50 years ago and a lot of this is the same except I was age 20.
What an incredibly strong woman. 😢😢😢 You're amazing and so resilient
Michelle, you are a survivor. Stop the guilt of accountability about your childhood. You had no choice, no options and were forced to go into self preservation mode aka surviving. I’ll pray for your siblings still living under the orders control
Go Michelle!!! So proud of you! You exemplify the power of the human spirit!
This girl went through so many things. Bless her for being so brave. ❤️
Still absolutely ADORE you guys digging deeper into multiple perspectives from a similar place.
*Michelle,* KEEP STRONG. your trauma is so complex, you are doing a beautiful job at taking charge of your narrative and making the life you deserve.
You are SO strong, your will and desire to understand and move on is inspiring.
Be well
Love and support as always!
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Dear Michelle,
you are an incredibly strong person ... 💪
The way you described your childhood made a huge impact on me 😢 ... I am so happy you took this turtourous path to escape & make a better life for yourself ... ❤️🙏
Please take my apologies for me sometimes airing my anger 🤬 and frustration - I would love to repay your dad & mum what they inflicted on you ...
Unbelievable what you Michelle and so many of your family had to endure. Your mother had to fast while she had a new born child, that is so bad. And all the beating. How strong you are. Michelle I wish you and your children all the best🍀🍀🍀 take care 🤗
What a story! Michelle you are an inspiration!
Michelle is great at telling a story. She is great at getting information.
You go, Michelle-you can do it!
(It’s all bullshit in the end.” I love that!)
I left fundamentalist mormonism (AUB) after 23 years of marriage (2nd wife). I can do relate to the strength and courage Michelle had to have to leave. She just wanted to be "good". Leaving would be just the opposite, and there is such confusion and heartbreak in the decision to walk away and still feel like you are a "good" person.
Oh wow thank you for sharing. I’d be interested to hear more of your story. Cultstoconsciousness@gmail.com
Michelle is so strong for escaping this abuse. It breaks my heart that she feels she abused her siblings when she was also a victim in that situation. I completely understand her guilt, but she was forced into that position. It's so awful
Listening to how she wants to better the world filled my heart. I'm amazed.
Hurray for Michelle. What an Advocate!!!!!! ❤️
I'm sending a billion hugs to both of you lovely, strong, brave ladies. You are truly HEROS. I didn't grow up in a cult, but I did grow up in a very manipulative, abusive home. Head game, physical abuse.. all of it. I remember wanting to unalive myself in elementary school. I'm happy you got out. You being your own validation is so liberating. Let the healing begin beautiful soul.
I loved Escaping Polygamy, it’s so nice to see where some of the people on the show are now!
Perfection is an unreasonable and unattainable goal. You are wonderful just the way you are.
It was a really cool episode to just hear a girls' story. It wasn't salacious or sensationalised, but practical and real. Thank you both, it opened up a door without judgement.
I feel so bad you can hear the nerves in her voice. Im glad youre out girl. Theres alot of us out here that are cheering on everyone brave enough to find a way to freedom ❤
Had to come back to hear the second part of her story. I'm sorry for what she went through, nobody deserves it. Michelle, you're one of the few soon to be cops i can support 100% because you understand.
She is amazing and strong. Thank you, Michelle for sharing your story. I hope you have a long, beautiful future.
Michelle has such courage. I’m so proud of her determination and strength. Thank you.
I am so proud of you for getting out from underneath all of that and for being such a good parent.
I know you will rock and whatever you choose to do.
I wish you nothing but the best.
Also, i love this channel. You do so much good. Thank you and keep it up.
Talk about generational trauma and crazy town ! These men are narcissistic and toxic. Glad she got out! Poor sweet girl is perfect the way she is.
My childhood was nowhere near as horrific but so many of the same things happened- eating out of the trash, social isolation, anorexia, being "betrothed" as a child, only allowable friends are siblings, child labor, working constantly, being complicit in the abuse of siblings, the relief and hope they'll just forget you when they lock you up somewhere. Narcissistic parents and fundamentalist religion, every time. My mother literally filled the master closet (these are enormous in Texas- the size of a bedroom anywhere else) with unopened toys no-one was allowed to touch with the pretext they'd be Christmas gifts "someday". I haven't seen her in almost 20 years, they're probably still there. I think my parents have forgotten I ever existed, thankfully.
Michelle is such strong woman she needs to make a channel ❤🎉🎉
Idk about that hon, did you hear the part where she's got two kids, and is in school & that and I'm pretty sure she works too 😅 So I'm just saying don't hold your breath on that. 😅 And besides Amanda shares her platform so well 🫶
Shelise, thank you for this channel!! I have a Christian Pastor friend who moved from Metro Detroit, Michigan to Utah to help the Mormon community. Through your channel I have learned about the different sects of Mormonism that exist. Before this channel I knew of LDS & FLDS. I didn't know about the AUB, the Order, etc. He has now been "Loving Utah" 15+ years helping Mormons get out of the fear based religions. His organization is called Loving Utah.
This people are masterminds at physiological abuse. Kudos and praying for you for success in all your endeavours!
Her Linda Listen is so precious!
As a mother and Nonna,her story breaks my heart.Glad you are one strong lady Michelle
Michelle.....i have watched every interview youve done, i think. You have grown so tremendously from just the first interviews i saw you do on amandas channel to this. Its amazing to see you come out of your shell and get to know what an awesome person you are!
I truly feel a sense of pride that we share a name and initials, however silly that is. 😂
You are truly inspiring, brave, well spoken, wise beyond your years, and so caring and kind. I find myself so excited for your children for the life they get to live, with such an awesome mama!!!!
You will make an incredible police officer, how amazing that you will get to provide love and compassion and protection for those who need it.
Thanks for being so willing to share. While your story is absolutely heartbreaking and gut wrenching, there is such a beauty that comes from knowing you were able to break the cycle. Im thrilled to see where you take things and what changes you make!!! You and your family (cousins) have already done so much by teaching and sharing with others to raise awareness. And so we can all get to know you and love your hearts and strength!!! A billion hoorahs for you, you are such a beautiful person and I actually find myself tearing up knowing what opportunities are there for you all and how far youve already come and where youre going. Shalise said it so well, You are a badass!!!! And your last quote was so true and inspiring, what a wise young lady you are!!
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I am sorry you suffered so much during your childhood. You deserved so much better than what you experienced! Please take care of yourself and be sure to spoil yourself now to make up for the loss.
Oh my, lock and key. That's how I described a virus to my granddaughter a few hours ago! 💕