To be more specific. Nora Vincent said that she stopped her experiment after 18 months because even though she was a lesbian, she was starting to actually hate women because of how bad women were treating her when they thought she was a man.
Bc are the root to to many problems, and y'all say women are lmao last time I checked women were the only ones acting responsible in life when it comes to kids, family and making sure the bills are paid so I don't give a damn about what men have to say.
The reason most men don’t say anything and just suffer in silence is because we realise “it’s impossible to reason with the unreasonable” , far easier to avoid interactions with women. I have a wide circle of male friends, single and in relationships and one thing that we all agree on is that the single guys are much happier.
I think I'm gonna cry and sleep and then I'll be ok...hmm, your comment should get millions of like because it's the truth but, sadly it won't. Someone asked me once how was my woman treating me?? Made me think...actually, pretty fucking bad.
Dead on! Woman in my life wonder why I don’t talk to them? It is a linguistic minefield to have an honest conversation about anything substantive! Thank you for saying that!
And she like other feminists thought men's life was easy mode boy she got that rude awakening like the old saying once you've seen something you can't unsee it.
her name is irrelevant... What are the names the of Men, being Men their whole lives, who've been dealt the sh!ttiest cards n still gotta clock in to work tomorrow? Salute
@@robertharrison1058 I'm sure you'd do much better in a women's shoes for one day. Very few men would stand for the little abuses women deal with throughout the day.
@@laternevercame how about guys getting falsely accused by women simply because women just hate them like that's easier I dare any woman to do construction work repair cars all day fix people's sinks toilets and pipes then come home to a spouse tired hungry and then has to get verbal abuse after hard days work oh yeah women have it harder fuck off.
You're absolutely right! It's a sad, sorry state the world is in right now. All I can do is teach my son and daughter to be decent humans and hope others are doing the same so the next generation isn't so hell bent on fighting each other and instead, they start working together and appreciating each other🤞
Alot of the time it's not kindness it's fear. If we say something we are the ones in the wrong. If we get hit we can't hit back because that would be abuse. If we say our feeling they will be used against us.
My god, her take is so true. Ever see those “who do you call when you need to talk” and every guy responds “no one, because no one cares about my issues”
@@makasii no, men understand there are consequences for conflict, but we're restrained by natural instincts and legal ramifications, not to dole out consequences to women. If men could readily overcome our natural protective impulse, and clock a mouthy bitch, women would stop being confrontational and men would no longer need to fight the inner conflict between protective nature and the natural demand for consequences.
This is the reason that I have completely shut off my emotions to the point where I couldn’t even cry when I lost my grandfather last year and he was one of the most important people in the world to me
Sounds like you have a God shaped hole in your heart. I was the same way too, all emotions gone feeling numb then God found me and I pursued. After begging for forgiveness I got my heart back and the numbness went away and happiness came back into my life. Don’t give up
That's why I love Jordan Peterson ... He was asked if he is the spokesperson for the INCELS ... and he said "Why not?" ... "What's so bad about being a spokesperson for broken men? Would you say the same about broken women?"
Yes, and he did well by saying what he did. But I think that many men are VOCELS (voluntary celibates) rather than INCELS because sometimes it's worth it just to abstain and avoid the trouble of a relationship with a contentious woman
@@birielavender9373 YOU missed the entire point.... Men are called out and belittled, attacked without saying "bad stuff" - the issue is the TRUTH is deemed bad stuff now!
@@birielavender9373 Thats exactly the kind of attitude thats making men say we don't give a fuck anymore. you have no sense of empathy, get over yourself
!! I loved my wife so much that I would take her out to eat to a good restaurant everyday or any day she wanted to go just to keep her happy until the day I couldn't afford to take her anymore she then decided to leave me for another business owner guy and that's also the sad story of many Men 😥☝️😥
Many men also shovel their own grave. Stop paying for everything your "partner" wants. You are not their parent to spoil her rotten. She, that woman was a whore nothing more. And you payed her.
I'm the type that rarely gets emotional in front of anyone. Even my wife. Why? Because why do I want to appear vulnerable when there's no one there willing to help strengthen me. I love her to no end, but she just gets quiet and kinda looks at me for a minute and then goes on about her day. I'm left looking pathetic and weak. That's why if I cry, I do it alone.
You might feel that you don't have anyone to talk to, and open your heart, but God is there, He always is, to strengthen us and guide us all the way. He loves and truly cares for you ❤️ and Jesus loves you too. John 3:16
Ok I got notified because of these jesus people and read my own comment again.. It sounds HARSH but it's actually not how I mean it... YOU DESERVE something better than that. If your PARTNER looks at you strange, just because you open up to her, SHE IS NOT WORTH YOUR ENERGY, TIME OR EMOTIONS.
I think that's are biggest issue and why society is the way it is. We keep chugging along we need to contribute nothing to this world. We're more valuable to society than women, and without us it collapses
Ive realized the older i get the harder i get emotionally speaking. In other words ive gotten better at blocking feelings and emotions. For better or worse.
@GreenThumb Patriot Jesus said He permits no divorce, except as a result of sexual immorality. The Apostles said, Master, it's better not to be married in that case! Jesus didn't answer that comment. The Bible is overflowing with reasons not to bind oneself to a woman, but people generally gloss them over in support of the massive marriage industry.
In the documentary she tries to chat up a woman but gets rejected in a pretty standard way. A man would just have to lift his spirits and keep going after the rejection but Norah is so crushed she breaks character and reveals she's actually a woman, upon which the other girl hugs her and apologises for her rudeness and says she had no idea.
@@ammoposada4427 she honestly couldn't handle being a man. But that doesn't make her weak. She tried to step up and experience and bring awareness to why men off themselves so much, and why men struggle to be happy. What she did was really amazing for us dudes, and I have nothing but respect for Nora. She was an amazing woman, and admitted to being naive and wrong about men.
Wait, so she knew that she was being rude but thought it was fine because it's ok to be that way to men, but apologized when she realized her STANDARD RESPONSE was directed at another woman? Wow
@RyoTV she's weak for having broken character. Couldn't even carry the rejection and had to get comforted by announcing she was a woman. Don't think she'd have lasted half as long if she'd kept quiet.
My ex wife used to beat me all the time . If I wanted too I could've wrecked her but I didn't. I called thr police about 14 yrs in after she gave me a good beating and I got arrested
"stand up for yourselves" they say.... *We are. We're refusing to argue with two-legged disasters and simply removing them from our lives. We're not here to fix you, woman. Fix yourself.*
@@deeky1239 don't let people use you. You csn still be kind and real; you just have to know what comes with the territory. First time getting hurt, then it's understandable and to continue doing what will only get you stepped on and hurt would be very stupid. I agree with you on that, but when someone learns from their mistakes and learns to save those genuine feelings of love for someone who puts in the same effort you put in and reciprocates your same feelings, that's not stupid. You deserve to be happy. Don't let a sour taste linger, I hope you're doing well and find all the happiness you could ever want. ✌️💯 If we all followed that, the world would be even worse than it is now. We need to go back to loving one another and appreciating others. Idk where we lost our way, but it's going to ruin our future. Definitely be careful, but there's no reward without risk. Much love
@@deeky1239 never ever show your feelings to no one especially a female. They hate weak men, or perception of the same, and that shyte dries them up like the Sahara desert. Instead talk to your best bud or your dad or a man you respect and has you in utmost confidence.
@Stay at Home Dad hate to disagree mate, but that's more a case of married to a woman for the sake of it, we are programmed to believe a marriage is what we need... I have been there, & learned there are people who get together & just a few years later realise they aren't made for each other but stay because of marriage & or kids, usually installed by religion, remain unhappy their whole lives because they feel it's important to wreck their marriage/kids because of what they believe & not thinking of the kids feelings. I was more happy a year after my marriage went out the window, realising that there is a great deal of the world we haven't seen because we have been blinded by our consumption of marriage
Sorry to hear that. It's possible to change, but some women do not make it easy. In a way, we teach people how to treat us by what we allow or don't allow and what boundaries we hold. If you have a woman who needs to be right all the time and won't acknowledge it though, it's pretty tough to change the dynamic.
Men do this to their sons, who then grow up and do it to theirs. Women are just as guilty, but my point is that it's a perpetual cycle on both sides. It's not just emasculating, but it's also dehumanizing. The irony is the type of men this idea creates goes on to be called cold, heartless, unfeeling bastards or something in that vein. It's ridiculous.
@@buttercup_bravo guess what. Not giving us treatment we deserve turns us into heartless soulless monsters. How I am supposed to be empathetic when no one is emphatic to me?
@@josefptacek113 us men are suppose to be like that, but a place for love for family and love life too, BUTTT. Gen z took over the internet with americans bringing big depression and black pill into this world, they're trying to bring women into strong place and men to be femenine to take over the world of matrix aka internet shit, and treating us so badly they make 15% of men gay, and teaching 4yo boys to be gay againt their will with transgender in there too. Good luck king, with getting in 1% of men, just to say is 1#, delete tik tok 2# stop using social media + caring what others think of you, and focus on getting money if you're 17-18,
Nora took a leap there's no coming back from. As a man, I wish I could have been there for Nora so she could have someone to lean on through her experiment. It's tough for men but either way, men and women, all lives matter in my opinion and we shouldn't let anyone commit suicide.
I agree, but how strange that all these Women are shocked and awakened to Mens issues when a Women playing a Man for a short period ends herself but the biggest killer of Men under 45 is this and these same Women say we don't talk about it. Do the figures not do enough talking? If Monkey Pox only impacted Women and became the biggest reason they died under 45 could Men be like yeah but you didn't say anything about it... It took a Woman to be impacted before they paid attention because it's inconceivable that Men themselves could be telling the truth and not just complaining from their patriarchal positions of power.
Well yeah, the difference is I speak up but most don't want to listen. They hear but not listen. Then take it as an insult , offended, and how it makes then feel instead of going by the facts of it. I've taken myself off the field for awhile, found some hobbies that actually show appreciation for my tlc/efforts. Next is going to get a dog and if that 1 in 15 million cones around she does if not? I'll sit back around a camp fire , feeding my dog and I some popcorn , and watch the life movie of the rest of the world finish burning to hell. 👍
just like she mentions, not only do we step back, we give permissions we’re not okay with. We keep it copacetic to keep moving forward, only to be blamed when it isn’t working out
@@annettahollings424 "self made man" it came out around 2000 ish she died in Canada in 2020 of medical assistant suicide her partner said she was never the same after and tried to kill herself a few times
One thing I heard Norah say in an interview, was that gender identity wasn't something to fool around with. How tragic that she saw no other way out. I had seen her "transformation" from Norah to Ned, and was impressed with her commitment and courage to put herself on the front line, mind, body and soul. RIP Norah.
Looks like it ended up in stupidity! Where was her friends, laughing at what she did and dressed up foolishly. I’m sorry but you can tell she was not well 🤒
I’ve actually never heard someone say it so correctly - “men step back only out of kindness - to allow feminism - but it doesn’t serve either of us.” Well said.
@@altsam9 You say that as if it's a foregone conclusion. You're just going to end up dying alone in the end, but it's cool, since that's clearly what you want.
Yes agreed my tenage daughter start having fans and boys that adore her. She is young enough we don't agre she dating a boy yet. we told her that she have to appreciate kindness that she received altough she don't like him, she have to respect the kindness but not to sacrifice her feeling also.
@@Ytusername18 omg thank you so many girls nowadays are just fucked in the head and cruel. I tried to ask a girl out once and instead of rejecting me kindly she spent the next 4 months making my life an embarrassment to all of my friends and anyone i tired to get to know. I just had to sit there and smile cause i would get destroyed if i tried to speak up. So honestly thank you so many guys and men including have a terrible way with coping with this and it can often end up as a suicide. Its just sad to see but thank you for having that kind if attitude.
Talk, no matter who you talk to... talk. Between the toxic feminist or bullies in general, they can all shove their judgments right were the sun doesn't shine. We need to start looking after our men, boys. We need to stand up for everyone's right to feel their feelings as they need to be felt. What the heck is wrong with letting people be whomever they need to be, to enjoy, thrive or survive another day?
I ordered her book yesterday. Really sad that she felt the need to end her life. I can't wait to see her thoughts and feelings of the experiment in more depth.
Yeah... I could had saved my relationship if I hadn't allowed her to take control of everything. Unfortunately it took her 7 yrs to realize I had actually stepped back cause I don't bother arguing with women. She apologized. We have 3 beautiful kids together and are best friends now.
She got the details of Norah Vincent a little off, but the gist of it is there. She didn't end the experiment by killing herself, but she was so depressed after the experiment that she eventually killed herself. #RememberNorahVincent
@@ericsclips2706 She said Norah pretended to be a man for 18 months before she killed herself. Actually she pretended to be a man for 18 months before she prematurely called off the experiment. She published a book about the experience in 2006. It wasn't until August 2022 that she killed herself. We don't know whether it was because she felt guilty about the way that women treat men, or she couldn't shake the depression for 16 years (during which she wrote 3 other books) or some unrelated reason. The woman implied that she killed herself because she couldn't stand being a man. It might have been the initial trigger, but it's a bit of a leap imho. On the other hand, she intended to do it for 2 years and had to call it off, so it definitely had an impact on her. But there's a big difference between 'she snapped' and 16 years later.
@@GordieGii it's almost like you didn't watch/ listen to the video. Her saying she did it for 18 months before she ended up killing herself is exactly what your saying without the specifics. How tf are you not understanding? She quickly explained what happened. She didn't say she killed herself which ended the experiment. She clearly implied what your detailing lol
@@ericsclips2706 Due to brevity and narrative, she left out the decade plus long delay between ending the experiment, the intervening depression, and the suicide linked to both of those things. In the interests of a truthful (if less impactful) narrative, better if that had been in it. But her experience living as a man was pretty awful.
This is why I fight so hard for my husband. I get so much kindness and sympathy when we're struggling and what does my husband get? Harsh "you need to be a man.", "You need to do (A), (B), (C)..." from the same people while in the same room. It hurts so much... I don't talk to people anymore because they treat my husband so harshly when he needs the same sympathy and support I need. Even the "feminists" in our families give him so much crap. I'm the only one helping him identify and process his feelings because he can't do that. He has abandonment issues from the neglect and verbal abuse he's gone through his entire life. He doesn't know how it feels to miss people. My heart aches so much. This is why I fight for men. I also do this for my guy friends because apparently no one knows how to help people process their emotions.
Just don't betray him and use everything he confided in you about against him. That's what happens in the majority of breakups. Even if you don't "love" him anymore you really ought to still respect him as a human being and not disrespect him. For some reason most women feel like it's normal or reasonable to hate and despise a man and be vindictive towards a man they chose to be with and chose to leave.
@@rickterrance4981 it's sad that you feel the need to say this... I understand where you're coming from though ... I had many friends who made their exes look bad when they split. I recently talked to a friend who did this to her ex and she had no idea how much she hurt him for the last 6 years. Her ex is one of my really good friends and I had to help him with the grieving process because she made him look so bad, no one had any sympathy for him... I hope I don't do this to my husband because I'm aware that everyone, including me, is equally capable of making bad decisions. I try to keep this in mind so that I can walk life with more wisdom rather than selfish ambitions.
I love it when 2 pretty women get to a door at the same time, they both expect the door to open for them, and they both hit the door instead of opening it for themselves.
"Don't say the things we need to hear" That's an interesting concept. To keep wifey happy certain magic words need to be said or they get angry and divorce you. I wish my ex had told me what those words were, maybe I'd be still married today. The only words I heard from my wife were yell, yell, criticise and put-down related words.
If you had shit-tested your wife when you were dating, you would've known not to marry her. Been married 40 years. I don't take shit from my wife. She is in my frame. That's how it works. Guys today are pussies.
I don't get those videos, it's unbelievable how stupid people really are that they care to watch these videos just to see someone's "reaction face" like get the FUCK out of here knlw what I mean?
This is why male camaraderie is so important, only men care about men for the most part. Get yourself a couple of good friends that you can talk to. If you're worried about trying to make a friend, just remember - he's probably as lonely as you are, especially if they're single. Invite him out for a beer or something and you've probably shown him more affection than he's seen in years.
@B T who you been fighting looks like you're still fighting pounding that table like that cuz I am an alpha male and I'll take crap off of nobody cuz I've had enough
As a boy you cry and your mother is there to comfort you. As a man, society expects you to emotionally disconnect and be the shoulder for others. That's why most men cry alone as to not break that image. I have only cried once or twice in front of my wife. Both had to do with my parents passing. Let it seep out when your alone so everyone thinks your strong
This is so Sad and it's true..This reminds of something I've read or heard many years ago I don't recall where or what but it's states that after we've been strong for so long who's there to be strong for us when we face our times of vulnerability
Some women, more and more as time passes, are flat out evil! Demonic! My wife was so evil, the devil decided he needed her in hell! She dropped dead at 49 for no apparent reason! I thank God every single day! Thank you, Lord!
The thing is when we have spoken out on how we’re treated, we’re often gaslit either into believing that the treatment we’re receiving is entirely our fault or into whining about something that isn’t a big deal. From there, we just remain silent for the sake of keeping the peace. Even when you’re single and you try to speak on how you’re treated, you’re told to man up and deal regardless of the circumstances.
Stop caring about these people opinions or thoughts. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one and they all stink. Be who you are and if someone needs thicker skin in order to not be offended that the sky is racist by being blue and not every color, then give them a lesson by being blunt and honest.
@Nikki Sigmon agree with you whole-heartedly my wife is cut from the old cloth, would sooner give you the shirt off her back if it meant you'd stay warm. The average person however.. its disheartening to see..
If i recall correctly she quit the experiment after 18 months but she did not commit suicide for 10 years later. I appreciate her investigation but so sad that she did not see that she too was valuable.
Any man who watches this video, but still stubbornly refuses to be a victim even when he has all the cards in his hand to play and be a bigger victim than any other group right now, understands what being a man is.
This is so true, my ex-wife demanded she get her own way and if she did not she was horrible on a level I could not believe. She initiated the divorce, because I finally said "this has to stop" she would not consider attempting to resolve our issues, even though we had kids. For nearly two years I avoided women (biked a lot) because I wanted nothing to do with another relationship, but finally I re-engaged and carefully went about finding someone new. And I screened out women that reminded me of my ex, even in the slightest, and I finally found my true friend, lover, partner. My ex-wife is going ape shit, because she cannot stand I am with someone new and we are happy. But her strategy to get me back is not being nice, not asking me what she can do, oh no it is a serious of threats, manipulations, tricks, etc. And honestly I believe she is simply doing what other similarly f'd up women are telling her to do.
Sounds like my ex. She is the very definition of a freakin shrew!! Just a complete b!tch if she didn't get her way with every little detail of our life. Yea.....by Felicia!! Lol.
I have one rule with women that is the absolute top priority, no headaches. As soon as I see a headache, they get one warning. After that, it’s over. No second chances. Gone through a fair few women, but never had to put up with any bullshit. Women think being pretty and giving BJs mean you have to put up with their crap. You don’t. In the past, men just have them a crack when they acted up. Now you just have to leave. They’ll learn eventually, way too late in most cases unfortunately
That sounds about par for the course. I'm happy that you found someone. I'm in the same period as your 'biking' phase and avoiding any contact with them after an acrimonious divorce.
Did she quit her old job and everything? If she kept a lot of her companions and stuff they might’ve treated them that way for being “trans”. But if they did tell them, then the experiment is flawed.
@@californiacountry209 She did, it wasn't for a long time after the experiment that she killed herself. It's disingenuous to claim the experiment was the reason
I remember the woman in question. I think she wrote a book about this experience, too. She seemed very intelligent and open-minded and I respected her ability to change her mind about any preconceived notions she may have had about men prior. I was sad to learn about her decision to take her own life.
Some of us are kind though ❤ don’t let any mean spirited people ruined your good heart ! The same water that makes the egg hard makes the potato soft ❤ aka don’t let a cold world male u cold n hard 🥶 . u be the warm & light in it ❤
I feel dead inside. I’ve been ghosted, rejected, and stood up so many times, I just don’t care anymore about anything. I don’t want to go on trips, because it’s not fun to go anywhere if I have no one to share it with.
But this is lies she felt the pressure of pretending to be the wrong sex and develoepd depression and she said she realised how hard men can have it, she didnt say woman are treating her like crap
Fun fact: After she revealed who she really was, everyone started treating her way nicer, and some of them even changed their mind and asked her out on a date.
Its not out of kindness its exhaustion. Too many of the strong have passed, and with them their blood lines. And the ones that remain have been beaten into submission or have given up.
I just stay single now. I miss being close to someone. But every single relationship I have has ended in a year or so and it’s not worth the heart ache. Even my marriage lasted less than two years.
Damn bro.. sorry to hear. Sounds like the same situation for me. You literally have to do everything they say for them to stay Lmao. Totally not worth it
If every single relationship, even your marriage ended within a short period of time, ask yourself, what is the one constant thing that runs throughout all these relationships - it's not the women because they're all different women - ITS YOU, so perhaps you need to look at yourself and how you've acted/behaved during these relationships.
I remember watching an interview with the woman that they are talking about...one of the biggest shocks she got is how open and welcoming the men were...how non judgmental. She felt terribly guilty for deceiving the men she befriended. She was brave for trying it...may she rest in peace.
She was on their bowling team as I recall and after letting them in on the experiment, they just wanted to know if she was going to show up for the next game.
@@oncesanora Yeah she kept at least some of those friendships afterwards. It's just too bad she couldn't recover from being a man for a short period of time. Gonna marvel at my own strength lmao. I'm ugly so "ew, no" is all I've heard my whole life and all I have is a crippling drug addiction lol
us guys are welcoming to other guys because we know what its like thtas why if u ask a man if you would cheat on your gf or snitch on the homies they would instantly pick cheat on their gf cause to snitch on ur homies is like chopping ur balls off
... the woman mentioned here is Norah Vincent and her account, as a man, is documented in her book: "Selfade Man" and although she stated unequivocally that she didn't like the role being a guy (quoting): "And that, I learned very quickly, is the straitjacket of the male role, and one that is no less constrictive than its feminine counterpart. You're not allowed to be a complete human being. Instead you get to be a coached jumble of stoic poses. You get to be what's expected of you" ... I guess that's the problem for all of us, isn't it, this straitjacket being what is expected from us, especially in the sense of gender stereotypes ... but Nora Vincent did not, I am convinced of that, end her life because of this experience, being a male (she was much more troubled in other ways) ... having actually read her book I'd like to share a couple of lines about her account of being a man. I am not sure if I am even allowed to share part of her thoughts, but I think this to be important for the discussion here and fully in her spirit: "It was hard being a guy. Really hard. And there were a lot of reasons for this, most of which, when I recount them, make me sound like a tired and prototypical angry young man. It’s not exactly a pose I relish. I used to hate that character, the guy in the play or the novel who drones on and on about his rotten deal in life and everyone else's responsibility for it. I always found him tedious and unsympathetic. But after living as a guy for even just a small slice of a lifetime, I can really relate to that screed and give you one of my own. In fact, that’s the only way I can truthfully characterize my life as a guy. I didn’t like it. I didn’t like how wooden I felt and had to make myself in order to pass as a believable guy. I had to do a lot of crossing out when I crossed from woman to man. I hadn’t anticipated this when I'd started as Ned. I had thought that by being a guy I would get to do all the things I didn’t get to do as a woman, things I'd always envied about boyhood when I was a child: the per ceived freedoms of being unafraid in the world, stamping around "I couldn’t be myself, and after a while, this really got me down. I spent so much time worrying about being found out, even after I knew that nobody would question the drag, that I began to feel as stiff and scripted as a sandwich board. And it wasn’t being found out as a woman that I was really worried about. It was being found out as less than a real man, and I suspect that this is something a lot of men endure their whole lives, this constant scrutiny and self-scrutiny. Somebody is always evaluating your manhood. Whether it’s other men, other women, even children. And everybody is always on the lookout for your weakness or your inadequacy, as if it's some kind of plague they're terrified of catching, or, more importantly, of other men catching. If you don’t make the right move, put your eyes in the right place at any given moment, in the eyes of the culture at large that threatens the whole structure"
Those "Yeah"s from the guy hit different.. He's agreeing to her realizations.. knowing deep down she won't change a how she actually acts torwards men to help change anything about it..
That's part of being a man. When women feel that they can walk away and society supports them. As a man when you feel that you're supposed to suck it up take a breathe then continue providing. It's sad but that's life now. Marriage isn't 50/50, it's supposed to be 100/100. If they don't give energy don't give them any.
Caught that, did you? At no point did she mention anything even remotely approximating making the choice to be kinder, themselves. _Men _*_STILL_*_ fucking have to do that for them!_
Men don't say the things we need to hear. Cassy Jaye would disagree. She's the one that as a feminist. Did a documentary on men's rights groups to exposed there misogyny. But eventually learned to listen. Her Ted talk was pretty good to hear how she learned to listen eventually after months and months of interviewing men's rights groups
I have been treated like shit by at least 90% of women in my life, whether it's family, so called friends, relations, classmates/workmates & strangers. Sometimes I just want to disappear as I honestly feel like I am never gonna meet anyone that won't treat me like crap.
I don't think they're stepping back out of kindness, I think they're stepping back because of bullying - because they're being bullied and forced to step back. Sorry, men! On behalf of rational women, I apologize.
. . . meh! Save it. It's nice of you to offer an apology, but we men are jaded at this point. The horror of it all: The worst is yet to come. You think it's bad now? No, not really. Men have responded and will continue to respond by just backing the hell out of the way. The collective thought is (in my opinion) "Here! Take it! It's yours. Let's see what you do with it." when we all know it's going right down the shitter at a breakneck speed. When the services that society depends on to run smoothly start to evaporate, and take longer and longer to restore, eventually being out for days on end, THAT is when women will realize just how WRONG they were for fighting the resource that makes those services operate. With any luck, it won't be too late, but I think we will be far past that point when the brunt of reality hits, and society wind up crumbling all around us. Stay tuned. Shit's gonna hit the fan. And when it does, you won't want to miss the show!
@@johnarmenta2199 I've got my popcorn and have laid in a doomsday stockpile of Ovaltine and fuzzy bunny slippers. The Joker ain't the only man wanting to watch the world burn. The rise of Skynet or a Chicxulub 2.0 event can't happen soon enough.
I enjoyed the split screen so much, and almost thought there was a point until I got to the end.. it's like photo bombing, not necessary and yet all these damn people do it when the original version was better.
we have tried to voice our emotions, but after so long of nobody caring, nobody helping, we just stop, no need to do the same thing for the same results
Never express your emotions in public.... You'll be seen as weak, it will be thrown in your face at the next convenient argument and you will regret ever opening your mouth. Stoicism IS the key to stability
It's sad that you feel that way. Try expressing your emotions to someone safe. There are women who DO care and will, not only listen to you, but will cry with you.
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To be more specific. Nora Vincent said that she stopped her experiment after 18 months because even though she was a lesbian, she was starting to actually hate women because of how bad women were treating her when they thought she was a man.
Yeah, our reality.
And the most disturbing part is. This was a generation ago. Nowadays it is even worse
So killing herself isn’t true?
@@Cobe1976 no it is true she was so depressed at everything she saw she couldn't handle it. there video on YT about her
@@Cobe1976 She had an assisted suicide years later from the depression
I got the impression it was this year
Her “You guys don’t speak up”
Men “No we do just no one cares”
Exactly
I feel so bad for the men who have to deal with this crap everyday.
Exactly! One of the first thing women said was not to trust men!
True
Bc are the root to to many problems, and y'all say women are lmao last time I checked women were the only ones acting responsible in life when it comes to kids, family and making sure the bills are paid so I don't give a damn about what men have to say.
The reason most men don’t say anything and just suffer in silence is because we realise “it’s impossible to reason with the unreasonable” , far easier to avoid interactions with women. I have a wide circle of male friends, single and in relationships and one thing that we all agree on is that the single guys are much happier.
i dunno about that you don't even know how long i've been single and i'm not happy
@@rolandofgilead43 You have to take the casual route.
There sum really sound easy going women out there now I will admit there rare
@@rolandofgilead43 OK. So go marry an American woman, get divorced and then come back and tell us which is better.
@@mynameisgladiator1933 it all depends on whom you marry and what kind of person they are.
I love how even in her attempt to “empathize”, she still blames men. “YOU don’t say the things that WE NEED to hear…” lovely.
"Its a losing war for both of us" This is just the best statement to the world
Also the biggest understatement.
@@xsychosis Completely
Also known as a pyrrhic victory
We hear so much of their favourite word "misogynist".
How often you hear men throwing word like "misandry" even when we are treated bad. Right. Never.
I want someone to write a song about that..
The truth will set you free. Not all men are good but the ones that are get the worst of it.
Men who oppose this Insanity arent Good?
You seem to imply that intended or not
Nailed it brother.
I think I'm gonna cry and sleep and then I'll be ok...hmm, your comment should get millions of like because it's the truth but, sadly it won't. Someone asked me once how was my woman treating me?? Made me think...actually, pretty fucking bad.
I know this is true and it breaks 💔 my heart.
Dead on! Woman in my life wonder why I don’t talk to them? It is a linguistic minefield to have an honest conversation about anything substantive!
Thank you for saying that!
Yes the split screen and just staring into the camera makes this better for sure. I appreciate the addition to the original
Yeah absolutely because her face enlightened us to become good people that actually will change the mindset of the society
It’s modern days and obsession with thy self… weird cause she ain’t really hot
Replace her with khaby lame
She only did it to spell check the title
@@Dirkdiggl I believe she is. Her videos are awesome too.
Her name was Nora Vincent and she knew that most men lead a life of quiet desperation.
And she like other feminists thought men's life was easy mode boy she got that rude awakening like the old saying once you've seen something you can't unsee it.
her name is irrelevant... What are the names the of Men, being Men their whole lives, who've been dealt the sh!ttiest cards n still gotta clock in to work tomorrow?
Salute
@@BangChief_AllIsOne that's why we say woman would not last in a man's shoes.
@@robertharrison1058 I'm sure you'd do much better in a women's shoes for one day.
Very few men would stand for the little abuses women deal with throughout the day.
@@laternevercame how about guys getting falsely accused by women simply because women just hate them like that's easier I dare any woman to do construction work repair cars all day fix people's sinks toilets and pipes then come home to a spouse tired hungry and then has to get verbal abuse after hard days work oh yeah women have it harder fuck off.
I shouldn’t have to tell a grown woman how to be a decent human…
Someone needs to, cuz they ain't getting the memo.
maybe, but they're not gonna tell themselves are they?
Most females aren't grown women that's the problem. Cuz if they were grown women you wouldn't need to tell them all this stuff
You're absolutely right! It's a sad, sorry state the world is in right now. All I can do is teach my son and daughter to be decent humans and hope others are doing the same so the next generation isn't so hell bent on fighting each other and instead, they start working together and appreciating each other🤞
Notice how it was still our fault
Alot of the time it's not kindness it's fear. If we say something we are the ones in the wrong. If we get hit we can't hit back because that would be abuse. If we say our feeling they will be used against us.
Everyone neglected me so many times that i dont feel emotion anymore...
I can't even start to describe how accurate this is
Well Zoro don't fret and let the hard times motivate you and Ignore selfish and negative people.
Despite those lonely nights god never let you all alone brother. It just makes you stronger
Keep your head up and look to God. You'll find someone who treats you right someday 🙂
So sick of not feeling a thing, so sick of not being a anything.
My god, her take is so true. Ever see those “who do you call when you need to talk” and every guy responds “no one, because no one cares about my issues”
yes
and there not wrond
Yes, i saw that too very sad
💯True shit
I call my dealer at least he has someting that numbs the pain
@@henkweeds1498 There's no mental abnormality to crippling that a cozy turtleneck sweater can't completely cure. That's just sound fucking physics.
“When men step back, it’s a losing war for both of us.” This is so true..
@@makasii we don't fear conflict. we just don't want the drama and bullshit in our lives.
@@roboteen exactly.
@@makasii It's not fear, it's pragmatism; like water, men take the path of least resistance.
@@makasii no, men understand there are consequences for conflict, but we're restrained by natural instincts and legal ramifications, not to dole out consequences to women. If men could readily overcome our natural protective impulse, and clock a mouthy bitch, women would stop being confrontational and men would no longer need to fight the inner conflict between protective nature and the natural demand for consequences.
We step back so the women who step forward can burn and the one's who aren't burning are ours.
This is the reason that I have completely shut off my emotions to the point where I couldn’t even cry when I lost my grandfather last year and he was one of the most important people in the world to me
Sounds like you have a God shaped hole in your heart. I was the same way too, all emotions gone feeling numb then God found me and I pursued. After begging for forgiveness I got my heart back and the numbness went away and happiness came back into my life. Don’t give up
That's why I love Jordan Peterson ... He was asked if he is the spokesperson for the INCELS ... and he said "Why not?" ... "What's so bad about being a spokesperson for broken men? Would you say the same about broken women?"
Yes, and he did well by saying what he did. But I think that many men are VOCELS (voluntary celibates) rather than INCELS because sometimes it's worth it just to abstain and avoid the trouble of a relationship with a contentious woman
Women are the nation breakers so anything bad that happens to them is, on the whole, a good thing.
When we speak up we are immediately gaslighted called misogynist and called insecure.
Pigs, dogs, hitler, assholes, etc... abusers and rapists. I have heard it all.
Depends on what you say, like if you're saying bad stuff you should be called out 🤔
@@birielavender9373 YOU missed the entire point.... Men are called out and belittled, attacked without saying "bad stuff" - the issue is the TRUTH is deemed bad stuff now!
@@patphoenix1082 cool bro
@@birielavender9373 Thats exactly the kind of attitude thats making men say we don't give a fuck anymore. you have no sense of empathy, get over yourself
!! I loved my wife so much that I would take her out to eat to a good restaurant everyday or any day she wanted to go just to keep her happy until the day I couldn't afford to take her anymore she then decided to leave me for another business owner guy and that's also the sad story of many Men 😥☝️😥
Many men also shovel their own grave. Stop paying for everything your "partner" wants. You are not their parent to spoil her rotten.
She, that woman was a whore nothing more. And you payed her.
Bruh I'm so sorry about that! She didn't deserve you! May take care of yourself and be healthy, happiness and great time with ur family and friend 😢💕
sorry to hear that. she is and was a shallow materialistic user brother.
I'm more impressed that there's a woman out there that knew what resturaunt she wanted to go to everyday!
@@sidewyndersshed1676 **you mean that in a sarcastical way or in a good way!? lol lol
I'm the type that rarely gets emotional in front of anyone. Even my wife. Why? Because why do I want to appear vulnerable when there's no one there willing to help strengthen me. I love her to no end, but she just gets quiet and kinda looks at me for a minute and then goes on about her day. I'm left looking pathetic and weak. That's why if I cry, I do it alone.
Wow, even a dog would come and ask sup? Good luck 👍❤️🇬🇧
yeah get an actual wife that loves you and has more than brick for brains then... what a weird partner you got...
Jesus man, this hits too close to heart.
You might feel that you don't have anyone to talk to, and open your heart, but God is there, He always is, to strengthen us and guide us all the way. He loves and truly cares for you ❤️ and Jesus loves you too.
John 3:16
Ok I got notified because of these jesus people and read my own comment again.. It sounds HARSH but it's actually not how I mean it... YOU DESERVE something better than that. If your PARTNER looks at you strange, just because you open up to her, SHE IS NOT WORTH YOUR ENERGY, TIME OR EMOTIONS.
“Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them. “ - Henry David Thoreau
I beleive that song is Time by Pink Floyd
@@Paul-oo6uu yep but it’s Thoreaus first as he wrote it long before anyone from Pink Floyd was born
Can't take a Man's Happiness away when a Man doesn't let you know his insecurity.
Happiness to the Grave Fellas. 😊
That’s actually the saddest thing I ever heard tbh.
And for most, that grave may be the first time that they recieve flowers.
Most men realise that they have to keep moving forward no matter what life throws at them.
That’s true. And we will no matter what.
I think that's are biggest issue and why society is the way it is. We keep chugging along we need to contribute nothing to this world. We're more valuable to society than women, and without us it collapses
@@markilleen4027 absolutely right. We need women too. But without us…nothing tangible gets done
Most STRONG men. Most of the male race these days just gives up and cries.
eren yaeger shit
Ive realized the older i get the harder i get emotionally speaking. In other words ive gotten better at blocking feelings and emotions. For better or worse.
Sounds like you need the Holy Spirit.
@@greenthumbpatriot3295 sometimes when your broke you have to be good at saying no without remorse
@GreenThumb Patriot
Jesus said He permits no divorce, except as a result of sexual immorality.
The Apostles said, Master, it's better not to be married in that case!
Jesus didn't answer that comment.
The Bible is overflowing with reasons not to bind oneself to a woman, but people generally gloss them over in support of the massive marriage industry.
Here we go…some women just don’t stop. They want to fight, fight and FIGHT until they win. They just love drama
Her closing statement was perfect
"It is a loosing war for both of us"
The woman was named Nora Vincent.
Feminism is the real problem. It is an unsustainable brain cancer.
True
In the documentary she tries to chat up a woman but gets rejected in a pretty standard way. A man would just have to lift his spirits and keep going after the rejection but Norah is so crushed she breaks character and reveals she's actually a woman, upon which the other girl hugs her and apologises for her rudeness and says she had no idea.
Jesus that's so much worse
That's extremely worse than expected. So she. Ouldnt habdle.being a man for one instance Jesus.
@@ammoposada4427 she honestly couldn't handle being a man. But that doesn't make her weak. She tried to step up and experience and bring awareness to why men off themselves so much, and why men struggle to be happy. What she did was really amazing for us dudes, and I have nothing but respect for Nora. She was an amazing woman, and admitted to being naive and wrong about men.
Wait, so she knew that she was being rude but thought it was fine because it's ok to be that way to men, but apologized when she realized her STANDARD RESPONSE was directed at another woman?
Wow
@RyoTV she's weak for having broken character. Couldn't even carry the rejection and had to get comforted by announcing she was a woman.
Don't think she'd have lasted half as long if she'd kept quiet.
It's no longer a question of, "If," a woman will abuse you, anymore, but, "When." It always happens.
That woman has it all. Intelligence, Beauty, and reality.
We speak up , then we are accused of sexism, and accused of rape ,and physical abuse . A losing battle for us
On long therm man will win.
Yep, it's like we did something wrong.
My ex wife used to beat me all the time . If I wanted too I could've wrecked her but I didn't. I called thr police about 14 yrs in after she gave me a good beating and I got arrested
I'm so sorry!! We're not all that way.
We speak up and its Toxic or Abuse
"stand up for yourselves" they say....
*We are. We're refusing to argue with two-legged disasters and simply removing them from our lives. We're not here to fix you, woman. Fix yourself.*
Amen
Yes indeed. I highly doubt the truly have the courage to self improve
That's the problem, you let bad behavior go unpunished, some women need to be treated like a child. Tell her she's sleeping on the couch.
@@User8vfjhejf
Maybe they do. But, they don't need it that from me, and I don't need a woman who needs that in my life.
Well Said!!!
I died years ago dating women. The ghost of me still dates but now I’m in therapy for anger management because being talked over is instant death rage
If u ever feel useless,always remember that her reaction was no reaction
Most men don't see her reactions. There were many.
The real thankless job these days is being a genuine, loving and dependable man.
Yeah and you'd be a fool to put yourself in that position.
@@deeky1239 you're deluded if you think being dependable, loving and genuine is a trait if weakness.
Hiding your true feelings is weak.
Man up
@@cookieman4578 It's not weak, it's naïve and dumb. People use you because they can get something from you.
@@deeky1239 don't let people use you. You csn still be kind and real; you just have to know what comes with the territory.
First time getting hurt, then it's understandable and to continue doing what will only get you stepped on and hurt would be very stupid. I agree with you on that,
but when someone learns from their mistakes and learns to save those genuine feelings of love for someone who puts in the same effort you put in and reciprocates your same feelings, that's not stupid. You deserve to be happy.
Don't let a sour taste linger, I hope you're doing well and find all the happiness you could ever want. ✌️💯
If we all followed that, the world would be even worse than it is now. We need to go back to loving one another and appreciating others. Idk where we lost our way, but it's going to ruin our future.
Definitely be careful, but there's no reward without risk. Much love
@@deeky1239 never ever show your feelings to no one especially a female. They hate weak men, or perception of the same, and that shyte dries them up like the Sahara desert. Instead talk to your best bud or your dad or a man you respect and has you in utmost confidence.
"It's a losing war for both of us." I felt that...
I felt that too
That Last part sums it up perfectly. 😔
Years ago I told my wife that “I was happy.” Biggest mistake of my life.
Absolutely Right! I been married 13 years and get treated like crap on a daily basis. It sucks!
Time to make a change dude
Right there with you bro!
@Stay at Home Dad hate to disagree mate, but that's more a case of married to a woman for the sake of it, we are programmed to believe a marriage is what we need... I have been there, & learned there are people who get together & just a few years later realise they aren't made for each other but stay because of marriage & or kids, usually installed by religion, remain unhappy their whole lives because they feel it's important to wreck their marriage/kids because of what they believe & not thinking of the kids feelings.
I was more happy a year after my marriage went out the window, realising that there is a great deal of the world we haven't seen because we have been blinded by our consumption of marriage
Do you need a crying towel,
It is simple if you are not happy move on. You do nobody including yourself any favors staying in a unhappy relationship.
Sorry to hear that. It's possible to change, but some women do not make it easy. In a way, we teach people how to treat us by what we allow or don't allow and what boundaries we hold. If you have a woman who needs to be right all the time and won't acknowledge it though, it's pretty tough to change the dynamic.
"You guys don't speak up"
when we speak up: "be a man"
Men do this to their sons, who then grow up and do it to theirs. Women are just as guilty, but my point is that it's a perpetual cycle on both sides. It's not just emasculating, but it's also dehumanizing. The irony is the type of men this idea creates goes on to be called cold, heartless, unfeeling bastards or something in that vein. It's ridiculous.
@@buttercup_bravoL
@@buttercup_bravo you're wrong, don't speak for a man. Women speaking for men and telling us what's ok is what's killing us.
@@buttercup_bravo guess what. Not giving us treatment we deserve turns us into heartless soulless monsters.
How I am supposed to be empathetic when no one is emphatic to me?
@@josefptacek113 us men are suppose to be like that, but a place for love for family and love life too, BUTTT. Gen z took over the internet with americans bringing big depression and black pill into this world, they're trying to bring women into strong place and men to be femenine to take over the world of matrix aka internet shit, and treating us so badly they make 15% of men gay, and teaching 4yo boys to be gay againt their will with transgender in there too.
Good luck king, with getting in 1% of men, just to say is 1#, delete tik tok 2# stop using social media + caring what others think of you, and focus on getting money if you're 17-18,
Nora took a leap there's no coming back from. As a man, I wish I could have been there for Nora so she could have someone to lean on through her experiment. It's tough for men but either way, men and women, all lives matter in my opinion and we shouldn't let anyone commit suicide.
I agree, but how strange that all these Women are shocked and awakened to Mens issues when a Women playing a Man for a short period ends herself but the biggest killer of Men under 45 is this and these same Women say we don't talk about it.
Do the figures not do enough talking?
If Monkey Pox only impacted Women and became the biggest reason they died under 45 could Men be like yeah but you didn't say anything about it...
It took a Woman to be impacted before they paid attention because it's inconceivable that Men themselves could be telling the truth and not just complaining from their patriarchal positions of power.
Well yeah, the difference is I speak up but most don't want to listen. They hear but not listen. Then take it as an insult , offended, and how it makes then feel instead of going by the facts of it. I've taken myself off the field for awhile, found some hobbies that actually show appreciation for my tlc/efforts. Next is going to get a dog and if that 1 in 15 million cones around she does if not? I'll sit back around a camp fire , feeding my dog and I some popcorn , and watch the life movie of the rest of the world finish burning to hell. 👍
Amen brother!
She did have men. She joined a bowling league and was welcomed with open arms.
She needed a guide and support a virgil to her dante as she traverse the 9 circles of hell.
just like she mentions, not only do we step back, we give permissions we’re not okay with. We keep it copacetic to keep moving forward, only to be blamed when it isn’t working out
It's truly heartbreaking that this is where we are in society.
My heart goes out to Nora and her loved ones. Every woman should check out her work.
never going to happen as it's against the narratives of the agenda for hatred against men.
Okay thanks. what is the name of her book?
@@annettahollings424 "self made man" it came out around 2000 ish she died in Canada in 2020 of medical assistant suicide her partner said she was never the same after and tried to kill herself a few times
@@trey9971 i think 2006 to be specific it released
Its kind your heart goes out to Nora but what about the thousands of nameless men that perform the same act every year for the same reason
Women working so hard to figure out what every generation already knew for the last 250,000 years.
250000 years. I would like to see absolute proof on that
@D T does D T stand for "Don't Talk"? He is wrong though, its been way longer then that.
@@In_The_80s Since the beginning of time.
@@SB-bh7ti but do we actually know that any of humanities ancestors lived some like 2 billion years ago or how ever old the Earth/universe is
@@DT-abcd Are... Are you asking for a citation on hyperbole...? Please bro... Please step back, get off the computer and touch some grass...
Omg this woman got an even clearer picture than us!! She's a sorcerer ! She broke the women wall!
Sarah at her best. She knows when to listen she knows when to talk. Thanks Sarah for bringing this woman out to show what we go through.
One thing I heard Norah say in an interview, was that gender identity wasn't something to fool around with. How tragic that she saw no other way out. I had seen her "transformation" from Norah to Ned, and was impressed with her commitment and courage to put herself on the front line, mind, body and soul. RIP Norah.
I heard her say that too...can't believe it's all screwed up now!
Looks like it ended up in stupidity! Where was her friends, laughing at what she did and dressed up foolishly. I’m sorry but you can tell she was not well 🤒
I’ve actually never heard someone say it so correctly - “men step back only out of kindness - to allow feminism - but it doesn’t serve either of us.” Well said.
It's incorrect that it is out of kindness. When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty and the pig likes it.
The fact that I don't have to financially depend on a man who's going to cheat on me and even physically abuse me has served me damn well.
man step back outta fear the man on my job will not even look at a female
@@altsam9 You say that as if it's a foregone conclusion. You're just going to end up dying alone in the end, but it's cool, since that's clearly what you want.
@@altsam9 Yeah. Because that's what all men do, right?
To all my dudes out there…keep going you will have your moment. Don’t let these females get in your way😤
There's nothing to speak up for if you don't get listened to and know nothing would change..
Had this conversation with my soon to be ex wife last night. Fathers, teach your daughters. Not just your sons.
Underrated
Yes agreed my tenage daughter start having fans and boys that adore her. She is young enough we don't agre she dating a boy yet. we told her that she have to appreciate kindness that she received altough she don't like him, she have to respect the kindness but not to sacrifice her feeling also.
Damn brother that can never be easy wishing you the best
teach both your sons and daughters
@@user-qt5xg5ju8z that's exactly what they said.
The masculine urge to not talk about our feelings even if it slowly eats away at my core at night.
As a girl I pray that y'all boiis get peace and happiness, 🥺💓 sorry for the toxic feminism
@@Ytusername18 omg thank you so many girls nowadays are just fucked in the head and cruel. I tried to ask a girl out once and instead of rejecting me kindly she spent the next 4 months making my life an embarrassment to all of my friends and anyone i tired to get to know. I just had to sit there and smile cause i would get destroyed if i tried to speak up. So honestly thank you so many guys and men including have a terrible way with coping with this and it can often end up as a suicide. Its just sad to see but thank you for having that kind if attitude.
and that is why you don't talk, just play the game, don't hate, learn to play the game
Talk, no matter who you talk to... talk. Between the toxic feminist or bullies in general, they can all shove their judgments right were the sun doesn't shine. We need to start looking after our men, boys. We need to stand up for everyone's right to feel their feelings as they need to be felt. What the heck is wrong with letting people be whomever they need to be, to enjoy, thrive or survive another day?
The masculine urge to tell people that stop using the term "masculine urge"
A WOMAN THAT ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND MALES
I ordered her book yesterday. Really sad that she felt the need to end her life. I can't wait to see her thoughts and feelings of the experiment in more depth.
when she said “out of kindness you guys are stepping back” was spot on
Its not kindness its just simple fact that modern day men are soft little panzies
Yeah... I could had saved my relationship if I hadn't allowed her to take control of everything. Unfortunately it took her 7 yrs to realize I had actually stepped back cause I don't bother arguing with women. She apologized. We have 3 beautiful kids together and are best friends now.
And it's a losing battle for both.
@@berserkerdonkey7350 that's an improvement, even if she took some YEARS, still a quite happy ending
@@laputaindepestenoire9492 she had to go get her fix if you know what I mean. At least she had some sense to go back to a good man in the end.
She got the details of Norah Vincent a little off, but the gist of it is there. She didn't end the experiment by killing herself, but she was so depressed after the experiment that she eventually killed herself.
#RememberNorahVincent
That's basically what she said though
Her death was indeed the end of the experiment.
@@ericsclips2706 She said Norah pretended to be a man for 18 months before she killed herself. Actually she pretended to be a man for 18 months before she prematurely called off the experiment. She published a book about the experience in 2006. It wasn't until August 2022 that she killed herself. We don't know whether it was because she felt guilty about the way that women treat men, or she couldn't shake the depression for 16 years (during which she wrote 3 other books) or some unrelated reason.
The woman implied that she killed herself because she couldn't stand being a man. It might have been the initial trigger, but it's a bit of a leap imho. On the other hand, she intended to do it for 2 years and had to call it off, so it definitely had an impact on her. But there's a big difference between 'she snapped' and 16 years later.
@@GordieGii it's almost like you didn't watch/ listen to the video. Her saying she did it for 18 months before she ended up killing herself is exactly what your saying without the specifics. How tf are you not understanding? She quickly explained what happened. She didn't say she killed herself which ended the experiment. She clearly implied what your detailing lol
@@ericsclips2706 Due to brevity and narrative, she left out the decade plus long delay between ending the experiment, the intervening depression, and the suicide linked to both of those things. In the interests of a truthful (if less impactful) narrative, better if that had been in it.
But her experience living as a man was pretty awful.
This is why I fight so hard for my husband. I get so much kindness and sympathy when we're struggling and what does my husband get? Harsh "you need to be a man.", "You need to do (A), (B), (C)..." from the same people while in the same room. It hurts so much... I don't talk to people anymore because they treat my husband so harshly when he needs the same sympathy and support I need. Even the "feminists" in our families give him so much crap. I'm the only one helping him identify and process his feelings because he can't do that. He has abandonment issues from the neglect and verbal abuse he's gone through his entire life. He doesn't know how it feels to miss people. My heart aches so much. This is why I fight for men. I also do this for my guy friends because apparently no one knows how to help people process their emotions.
He needs both so he doesn't become complacent or burnt out
For real.
There's so little empathy towards men, it's problematic. Everyone is human and deserves to be treated as human.
Just don't betray him and use everything he confided in you about against him. That's what happens in the majority of breakups. Even if you don't "love" him anymore you really ought to still respect him as a human being and not disrespect him. For some reason most women feel like it's normal or reasonable to hate and despise a man and be vindictive towards a man they chose to be with and chose to leave.
@@rickterrance4981 it's sad that you feel the need to say this... I understand where you're coming from though ... I had many friends who made their exes look bad when they split. I recently talked to a friend who did this to her ex and she had no idea how much she hurt him for the last 6 years. Her ex is one of my really good friends and I had to help him with the grieving process because she made him look so bad, no one had any sympathy for him... I hope I don't do this to my husband because I'm aware that everyone, including me, is equally capable of making bad decisions. I try to keep this in mind so that I can walk life with more wisdom rather than selfish ambitions.
I love it when 2 pretty women get to a door at the same time, they both expect the door to open for them, and they both hit the door instead of opening it for themselves.
"Don't say the things we need to hear" That's an interesting concept. To keep wifey happy certain magic words need to be said or they get angry and divorce you. I wish my ex had told me what those words were, maybe I'd be still married today. The only words I heard from my wife were yell, yell, criticise and put-down related words.
If not saying words is all it takes for her to leave then good riddance.
Only 1 rule i have, If you can't expand my peace, gtfo.
Frankly, I say that you're better off without her.
Oh so the normal female words
how I took "say the things we ( women) need to hear" is that women have made it hard for men to call out bs & toxic feminism
If you had shit-tested your wife when you were dating, you would've known not to marry her. Been married 40 years. I don't take shit from my wife. She is in my frame. That's how it works. Guys today are pussies.
I like how she made a reaction video but didn’t make a single facial expression 😂
I don't get those videos, it's unbelievable how stupid people really are that they care to watch these videos just to see someone's "reaction face" like get the FUCK out of here
knlw what I mean?
And that’s why it’s the best reaction video made 🤷🏼♂️
It’s to give it more attention on a video she supports
You forgot 😐😑😐
And she puts woman not women, as if that proves a counter point or something
It's so hurting loving someone and trynna do everything but all you get in return is heartbreaks
I cant believe how much support we get these days from outspoken women. Thanks Sarah, appreciate ya🎉
This is why male camaraderie is so important, only men care about men for the most part. Get yourself a couple of good friends that you can talk to. If you're worried about trying to make a friend, just remember - he's probably as lonely as you are, especially if they're single. Invite him out for a beer or something and you've probably shown him more affection than he's seen in years.
Yeah brother
🔥🔥.
Well damn who’s grabbing the Corona’s?
🍻
I thought about asking him to grab a beer tonight. I need a bro
Being a man is lonely, unappreciated
I don’t know you. But you are appreciated. Please share your talents.
I'd like to apologize for womankind for how badly you've been treated!! A good strong man should be nurtured and highly appreciated.
*Being you*
hugs, you matter, I believe in you
@B T who you been fighting looks like you're still fighting pounding that table like that cuz I am an alpha male and I'll take crap off of nobody cuz I've had enough
As a boy you cry and your mother is there to comfort you. As a man, society expects you to emotionally disconnect and be the shoulder for others. That's why most men cry alone as to not break that image. I have only cried once or twice in front of my wife. Both had to do with my parents passing. Let it seep out when your alone so everyone thinks your strong
Sadly but true, and the saddest part is, that most women do not have this understanding.., And then they wonder why they are alone!
Took a peek into our world and it drove her mad…
She was waiting around for the "thank you" and realized a lot of men really live unappreciated
I will say tho this girl did not kill her self because of this experiment she killed her self like 10 years later
This is so Sad and it's true..This reminds of something I've read or heard many years ago I don't recall where or what but it's states that after we've been strong for so long who's there to be strong for us when we face our times of vulnerability
Some women, more and more as time passes, are flat out evil! Demonic!
My wife was so evil, the devil decided he needed her in hell! She dropped dead at 49 for no apparent reason!
I thank God every single day! Thank you, Lord!
God is great!!
Some dudes round here want your secret...
You stared at the back of her head with such despise it boiled her brain. 😀
The thing is when we have spoken out on how we’re treated, we’re often gaslit either into believing that the treatment we’re receiving is entirely our fault or into whining about something that isn’t a big deal. From there, we just remain silent for the sake of keeping the peace. Even when you’re single and you try to speak on how you’re treated, you’re told to man up and deal regardless of the circumstances.
Stop caring about these people opinions or thoughts. Opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one and they all stink. Be who you are and if someone needs thicker skin in order to not be offended that the sky is racist by being blue and not every color, then give them a lesson by being blunt and honest.
Not only out of kindness but out of love we men step back for our woman..
I'm to the point where it's not worth it to take a chance at dating again. The pain, time, money.... it's not worth it.
If only prostitution was legal 😊
We aren't stepping back out of kindness, we are stepping back because your just not worth the trouble anymore!
@William LaMascus absolutely, money is power, power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.
If those are the women around you, don't blame you at all. But as is usual: "not everyone is like that".
@Nikki Sigmon agree with you whole-heartedly my wife is cut from the old cloth, would sooner give you the shirt off her back if it meant you'd stay warm. The average person however.. its disheartening to see..
Yes sir
@William LaMascus ight solid argument
If i recall correctly she quit the experiment after 18 months but she did not commit suicide for 10 years later. I appreciate her investigation but so sad that she did not see that she too was valuable.
Any man who watches this video, but still stubbornly refuses to be a victim even when he has all the cards in his hand to play and be a bigger victim than any other group right now, understands what being a man is.
Wow, cutting this video in half to make sure your face could be seen while she spoke all these facts really contributed a lot to the video. Well done.
This is so true, my ex-wife demanded she get her own way and if she did not she was horrible on a level I could not believe. She initiated the divorce, because I finally said "this has to stop" she would not consider attempting to resolve our issues, even though we had kids. For nearly two years I avoided women (biked a lot) because I wanted nothing to do with another relationship, but finally I re-engaged and carefully went about finding someone new. And I screened out women that reminded me of my ex, even in the slightest, and I finally found my true friend, lover, partner. My ex-wife is going ape shit, because she cannot stand I am with someone new and we are happy. But her strategy to get me back is not being nice, not asking me what she can do, oh no it is a serious of threats, manipulations, tricks, etc. And honestly I believe she is simply doing what other similarly f'd up women are telling her to do.
Same story over here bro, stay strong enjoy your new life.
Sounds like my ex. She is the very definition of a freakin shrew!! Just a complete b!tch if she didn't get her way with every little detail of our life. Yea.....by Felicia!! Lol.
Yep. All true. Especially your last sentence. 🎯🎯🎯
I have one rule with women that is the absolute top priority, no headaches. As soon as I see a headache, they get one warning. After that, it’s over. No second chances. Gone through a fair few women, but never had to put up with any bullshit. Women think being pretty and giving BJs mean you have to put up with their crap. You don’t. In the past, men just have them a crack when they acted up. Now you just have to leave. They’ll learn eventually, way too late in most cases unfortunately
That sounds about par for the course.
I'm happy that you found someone.
I'm in the same period as your 'biking' phase and avoiding any contact with them after an acrimonious divorce.
It wasn't only women that treated her badly, just the way she was generally treated by work peers etc, it was the whole experience.
Did she quit her old job and everything? If she kept a lot of her companions and stuff they might’ve treated them that way for being “trans”. But if they did tell them, then the experiment is flawed.
I'm over here thinking why didn't she just stop being a man and go back to her old self
@@californiacountry209 She did, it wasn't for a long time after the experiment that she killed herself. It's disingenuous to claim the experiment was the reason
No that's not how it when
She dressed as a man to show that men have it better than woman
Only to find out that no they didn't in fact have it worse
@@racanum379 there's a lot of info left out for sure
0-13 is the free trial of kindness
I remember the woman in question. I think she wrote a book about this experience, too. She seemed very intelligent and open-minded and I respected her ability to change her mind about any preconceived notions she may have had about men prior. I was sad to learn about her decision to take her own life.
Welcome to our world where the quotes "You're a man, Walk it off!" Is all we heard almost everyday of our lives.
Agreed...
for real
And we're still walking.
and we DO walk it off *gigachad music plays*
yea i like the quote whats wrong with being stoic
Man, she spoke for almost all the men out there, thank you sister..
Yet, she would still divorce rape you and steal your kids and wealth.
No one cares
@@ThePresentation010 cry about it
Some of us are kind though ❤ don’t let any mean spirited people ruined your good heart ! The same water that makes the egg hard makes the potato soft ❤ aka don’t let a cold world male u cold n hard 🥶 . u be the warm & light in it ❤
Be quiet genshin player
I feel dead inside. I’ve been ghosted, rejected, and stood up so many times, I just don’t care anymore about anything.
I don’t want to go on trips, because it’s not fun to go anywhere if I have no one to share it with.
I was getting emotional here-- for far too long men have been copping crap from women.
"you guys are stepping back but it's a losing war for both of us" damn that's so deep?
that's what she said
@@palminal2722 💀
But this is lies she felt the pressure of pretending to be the wrong sex and develoepd depression and she said she realised how hard men can have it, she didnt say woman are treating her like crap
yeah but when u actually say something that needs to be said u are labeled as a toxic or whatever the facking trem is these days
@@13bh12 I just call it jumping to conclusions
Fun fact: After she revealed who she really was, everyone started treating her way nicer, and some of them even changed their mind and asked her out on a date.
Bruh
@@bizkurt99 "Bruh" what? Quit using that word you trendy teenager.
@@nonyabusiness6084 bruh
@@nonyabusiness6084 bruh
@@nonyabusiness6084 bruh
I’m dying inside… I’ve never been more hurt in my entire life… my ex took my daughter from me and it’s the worst pain ever
I’m soo sorry Bro …
Its not out of kindness its exhaustion. Too many of the strong have passed, and with them their blood lines. And the ones that remain have been beaten into submission or have given up.
I just stay single now. I miss being close to someone. But every single relationship I have has ended in a year or so and it’s not worth the heart ache. Even my marriage lasted less than two years.
Focus on yourself, happiness can be found in many places
@@king-fool thank you 🙏
Damn bro.. sorry to hear. Sounds like the same situation for me. You literally have to do everything they say for them to stay Lmao. Totally not worth it
If every single relationship, even your marriage ended within a short period of time, ask yourself, what is the one constant thing that runs throughout all these relationships - it's not the women because they're all different women - ITS YOU, so perhaps you need to look at yourself and how you've acted/behaved during these relationships.
Same.
I remember watching an interview with the woman that they are talking about...one of the biggest shocks she got is how open and welcoming the men were...how non judgmental. She felt terribly guilty for deceiving the men she befriended. She was brave for trying it...may she rest in peace.
She was on their bowling team as I recall and after letting them in on the experiment, they just wanted to know if she was going to show up for the next game.
@@oncesanora Yeah she kept at least some of those friendships afterwards. It's just too bad she couldn't recover from being a man for a short period of time. Gonna marvel at my own strength lmao. I'm ugly so "ew, no" is all I've heard my whole life and all I have is a crippling drug addiction lol
us guys are welcoming to other guys because we know what its like thtas why if u ask a man if you would cheat on your gf or snitch on the homies they would instantly pick cheat on their gf cause to snitch on ur homies is like chopping ur balls off
@@aspect2758 dogs are the ultimate snitches lol
@@bwestacado9643 bro tried to sneak in the lol my boy ain't nothing funny about drug addiction😥
... the woman mentioned here is Norah Vincent and her account, as a man, is documented in her book: "Selfade Man" and although she stated unequivocally that she didn't like the role being a guy (quoting):
"And that, I learned very quickly, is the straitjacket of the male role, and one that is no less constrictive than its feminine counterpart. You're not allowed to be a complete human being. Instead you get to be a coached jumble of stoic poses. You get to be what's expected of you" ...
I guess that's the problem for all of us, isn't it, this straitjacket being what is expected from us, especially in the sense of gender stereotypes ... but Nora Vincent did not, I am convinced of that, end her life because of this experience, being a male (she was much more troubled in other ways) ... having actually read her book I'd like to share a couple of lines about her account of being a man. I am not sure if I am even allowed to share part of her thoughts, but I think this to be important for the discussion here and fully in her spirit:
"It was hard being a guy. Really hard. And there were a lot of reasons for this, most of which, when I recount them, make me sound like a tired and prototypical angry young man.
It’s not exactly a pose I relish. I used to hate that character, the guy in the play or the novel who drones on and on about his rotten deal in life and everyone else's responsibility for it. I always found him tedious and unsympathetic. But after living as a guy for even just a small slice of a lifetime, I can really relate to that screed and give you one of my own. In fact, that’s the only way I can truthfully characterize my life as a guy. I didn’t like it.
I didn’t like how wooden I felt and had to make myself in order to pass as a believable guy. I had to do a lot of crossing out when I crossed from woman to man. I hadn’t anticipated this when I'd started as Ned. I had thought that by being a guy I would get to do all the things I didn’t get to do as a woman, things I'd always envied about boyhood when I was a child: the per ceived freedoms of being unafraid in the world, stamping around
"I couldn’t be myself, and after a while, this really got me down. I spent so much time worrying about being found out, even after I knew that nobody would question the drag, that I began to feel as stiff and scripted as a sandwich board. And it wasn’t being found out as a woman that I was really worried about. It was being found out as less than a real man, and I suspect that this is something a lot of men endure their whole lives, this constant scrutiny and self-scrutiny.
Somebody is always evaluating your manhood. Whether it’s other men, other women, even children. And everybody is always on the lookout for your weakness or your inadequacy, as if it's some kind of plague they're terrified of catching, or, more importantly, of other men catching. If you don’t make the right move, put your eyes in the right place at any given moment, in the eyes of the culture at large that threatens the whole structure"
Those "Yeah"s from the guy hit different.. He's agreeing to her realizations.. knowing deep down she won't change a how she actually acts torwards men to help change anything about it..
I love my wife but sometimes there's a time I wish I could just walk away and disappear without a trace.
That's part of being a man. When women feel that they can walk away and society supports them. As a man when you feel that you're supposed to suck it up take a breathe then continue providing. It's sad but that's life now. Marriage isn't 50/50, it's supposed to be 100/100. If they don't give energy don't give them any.
You can, just do it.
Best of luck!
yup. feel that all the time.
Go to the store for milk
@@Cowabunga808 don’t encourage that
In other words “we’re going to be obnoxious and treat men like shit, and you guys have to stop us.” Got it. Thanks.
Caught that, did you?
At no point did she mention anything even remotely approximating making the choice to be kinder, themselves.
_Men _*_STILL_*_ fucking have to do that for them!_
I’m glad I’m not the only one who caught that.
Men don't say the things we need to hear. Cassy Jaye would disagree. She's the one that as a feminist. Did a documentary on men's rights groups to exposed there misogyny. But eventually learned to listen. Her Ted talk was pretty good to hear how she learned to listen eventually after months and months of interviewing men's rights groups
Responsibility is like poison to a woman
@@jimreimers4213 she later left feminism, partially because they protested her 'the red pill' documentary.
my ex said ''what a horseshit'' when she saw it
The last Word the guy Said yeah... I felt that🥺
I have been treated like shit by at least 90% of women in my life, whether it's family, so called friends, relations, classmates/workmates & strangers. Sometimes I just want to disappear as I honestly feel like I am never gonna meet anyone that won't treat me like crap.
Yup sucks bud but I guess try and hang on.
@@jummyran yeah man!! I've been on my own for 8 or so years, mostly drama free, however you do get a tad lonely from time to time.
@@jummyran thanks mate! Have an awesome week!!
not until ur 40ish and find yourself a nice 30-35yr old woman
@@mikebar42 38!!! Haha, close mate!
I don't think they're stepping back out of kindness, I think they're stepping back because of bullying - because they're being bullied and forced to step back. Sorry, men! On behalf of rational women, I apologize.
Don't apologize for what other people do.
. . . meh! Save it. It's nice of you to offer an apology, but we men are jaded at this point. The horror of it all: The worst is yet to come. You think it's bad now? No, not really. Men have responded and will continue to respond by just backing the hell out of the way. The collective thought is (in my opinion) "Here! Take it! It's yours. Let's see what you do with it." when we all know it's going right down the shitter at a breakneck speed.
When the services that society depends on to run smoothly start to evaporate, and take longer and longer to restore, eventually being out for days on end, THAT is when women will realize just how WRONG they were for fighting the resource that makes those services operate. With any luck, it won't be too late, but I think we will be far past that point when the brunt of reality hits, and society wind up crumbling all around us.
Stay tuned. Shit's gonna hit the fan. And when it does, you won't want to miss the show!
@@johnarmenta2199 yep pretty much this.
@@johnarmenta2199 I've got my popcorn and have laid in a doomsday stockpile of Ovaltine and fuzzy bunny slippers. The Joker ain't the only man wanting to watch the world burn. The rise of Skynet or a Chicxulub 2.0 event can't happen soon enough.
🤔 I "step back" out of kindness to myself! 👉 BC I'm done feeling the frustration of zero accountability and entitled double standards from women. Bye.
I enjoyed the split screen so much, and almost thought there was a point until I got to the end.. it's like photo bombing, not necessary and yet all these damn people do it when the original version was better.
Girl on the left speaking facts 😢😂😊
we have tried to voice our emotions, but after so long of nobody caring, nobody helping, we just stop, no need to do the same thing for the same results
Never express your emotions in public.... You'll be seen as weak, it will be thrown in your face at the next convenient argument and you will regret ever opening your mouth.
Stoicism IS the key to stability
Agreed women aren't equipped to handle men's problems...
@@randombobsmith8925 Until you break down crying out of nowhere due to one half of your brain telling the other half to change.
It's sad that you feel that way. Try expressing your emotions to someone safe. There are women who DO care and will, not only listen to you, but will cry with you.
@@LJ-hk4tv then you did not learn to let the shit go.